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2012-10-09 08:42:56 AM  
Too snarky. It doesn't strike the right tone. A straightforward "Mitt Romney will let Wall Street run rampant, but he'll crack down on Sesame Street" would have been more effective. This comes off kinda bratty.
 
2012-10-09 08:52:22 AM  
I think Obama might to well to walk away from last weeks debate. Any reference to it just reminds paople of his and Romney's performance.
 
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2012-10-09 09:09:13 AM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: I think Obama might to well to walk away from last weeks debate. Any reference to it just reminds paople of his and Romney's performance.


Why does he care? How many undecided people are there?
 
2012-10-09 09:15:59 AM  
Big Bird wants to gay marry Snuffalopagus.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-09 09:18:45 AM  
hollywoodleek.com
 
2012-10-09 09:21:11 AM  
jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.
 
2012-10-09 09:23:17 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


There's your problem.

The Democrats are sackless wonders.
 
2012-10-09 09:28:51 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


Obama did in speeches after the debate. That doesn't excuse his performance but it doesn't mean he's not countering it. Of course, Big Bird makes better copy, no?
 
2012-10-09 09:34:41 AM  

Aarontology: The Democrats are sackless wonders.


this is true. republicans are by nature alpha-male bullies and democrats are sensitive wimps.
 
2012-10-09 09:43:19 AM  
HEY OBAMA

YOU SHOULD HAVE MADE THIS JOKE LAST WEDNESDAY

THANK YOU
 
2012-10-09 09:45:22 AM  

CPennypacker: HEY OBAMA

YOU SHOULD HAVE MADE THIS JOKE LAST WEDNESDAY

THANK YOU


Esprit d'escalier.

Romney knows what I mean.

He speaks French
 
2012-10-09 09:45:30 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


Have you been asleep for 18 months? The Republicans don't care if you call them liars. They celebrate it, because annoying a liberal counts as a victory to them. The debate showed that style matters more than substance. If this is the one thing that resonates from the debate, use it. This is what people will remember. I wish that's not the way that life worked, but it is.
 
2012-10-09 09:46:23 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


This is the stuff that shows up on Fark.com. You know, the website with the by-line: "It's not news." Using Fark as a news source will distort your perception of what's actually happening in the election. And by 'distort', I mean amuse you while you widdle away the hours waiting to forget to vote.
 
2012-10-09 09:46:31 AM  
That was funny as hell.
 
2012-10-09 09:46:37 AM  
Well, his writers did well. Now if he could only do as well when he's speaking off script
 
2012-10-09 09:47:08 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


Yeah, because the undecided voter is studious and involved, and is really interested in numbers. The people that are left to be gotten are the people who have the potential to see something like this, and have it resonate as a "Mitt is dumb" moment. And then vote for Obama. Talking to them about tax cuts? Not so much.
 
2012-10-09 09:47:19 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies


I really hope in the next debate Obama just completely ignores the moderator, turns to Romney and steamrolls him point by point on every single lie while actually using the word lie. During the foreign policy portion Romney is just going to turn around and lie about everything he said regarding Libya while effectively pretending that Obama's actual, in-progress foreign policy is his own. It would be great if Obama just ran him over and didn't even let him get started.
 
2012-10-09 09:47:26 AM  
Big Gird ate my dingo
 
2012-10-09 09:49:33 AM  
Don't worry. Hillary is on it.
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-09 09:51:14 AM  

JerseyTim: Too snarky. It doesn't strike the right tone. A straightforward "Mitt Romney will let Wall Street run rampant, but he'll crack down on Sesame Street" would have been more effective. This comes off kinda bratty.


Yeah, "Soft on Wall Street, tough on Sesame Street" would have flowed better, but it also sounds like a pretty obvious line. There's a good chance it's already been done.
 
2012-10-09 09:51:39 AM  
We can go ahead and drop the "Nailed it" meme whenever you guys are ready.

/thanks
 
2012-10-09 09:51:48 AM  
That was awesome.
 
2012-10-09 09:51:52 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: I really hope in the next debate Obama just completely ignores the moderator, turns to Romney and steamrolls him point by point on every single lie while actually using the word lie.


You mean, have a sack? Not President Buckles, I fear. More likely, he'll give Romney 98 percent of what he wants and consider it a fair deal.


/liberal in KY
/no hope no future
 
2012-10-09 09:52:00 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


So you've missed the other ads the campaign has been running since the weekend.
 
2012-10-09 09:52:22 AM  

Skleenar: Esprit d'escalier.

Romney knows what I mean.

He speaks French


That means "spirit the scales", similar to English's phrase "skin a cat". There's more than one way to esprit d'escalier.
 
2012-10-09 09:53:34 AM  

Bhruic: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

Yeah, because the undecided voter is studious and involved, and is really interested in numbers. The people that are left to be gotten are the people who have the potential to see something like this, and have it resonate as a "Mitt is dumb" moment. And then vote for Obama. Talking to them about tax cuts? Not so much.


You're exactly right. If someone is still undecided at this point they most likely don't care enough to actually work St understanding issues. What will sway them is sound bites and general good or bad feelings about a candidate.
 
2012-10-09 09:54:02 AM  

JerseyTim: Too snarky. It doesn't strike the right tone. A straightforward "Mitt Romney will let Wall Street run rampant, but he'll crack down on Sesame Street" would have been more effective. This comes off kinda bratty.


To be fair:

"The Obama campaign confirmed to TPM the ad will run on broadcast and cable nationally. The campaign said the ad buys will be "targeting comedy shows specifically," suggesting the ads will run in late night. "


So, it's meant to run on The Daily Show and Colbert. It's supposed to sound bratty.
 
2012-10-09 09:54:04 AM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

So you've missed the other ads the campaign has been running since the weekend.


NO THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN CAN ONLY HAVE ONE AD AT ANY GIVEN TIME SHUT UP
 
2012-10-09 09:54:32 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


They've been running that non stop since the day after the debate here in Florida. Wtf are you talking about?
 
2012-10-09 09:55:22 AM  

blackminded: We can go ahead and drop the "Nailed it" meme whenever you guys are ready.

/thanks


Nailed it
 
2012-10-09 09:55:25 AM  

Bhruic: Yeah, because the undecided voter is studious and involved


To be fair, a lot of decided (read: partisan) voters aren't particularly concerned about the facts either.
 
2012-10-09 09:56:53 AM  
This is why Obama let Romney run off at the mouth unchecked during the debate. He let him get as many lies as he could out so that in later campaign ads they could be pointed out.
 
2012-10-09 09:56:56 AM  

Bhruic: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

Yeah, because the undecided voter is studious and involved, and is really interested in numbers. The people that are left to be gotten are the people who have the potential to see something like this, and have it resonate as a "Mitt is dumb" moment. And then vote for Obama. Talking to them about tax cuts? Not so much.


I agree with both comments to an extent.

Obama specifically and the Dems in general need to grow a pair and start fighting back and stop being door mats.

That noted, if Mitt can "win" a debate with bald faced lying and body language then sure the Dems should just go with what works, with what finds traction and resonance with the haplessly fickle undecideds.

Even if it's a seven foot tall talking yellow bird.
 
2012-10-09 09:57:07 AM  

eldritch2k4: So, it's meant to run on The Daily Show and Colbert. It's supposed to sound bratty.


That's money well spent, because viewers of those shows aren't already decided.
 
2012-10-09 09:57:08 AM  

blackminded: We can go ahead and drop the "Nailed it" meme whenever you guys are ready.

/thanks


How's November 8th for you?
 
2012-10-09 09:57:16 AM  
Why do I get the feeling that Romney is going to find himself "trumped" after the next debate.


In that following the debate, after Romney is certain to have criticized how Obama is handling the aftermath of Libya, it will be announced that the leaders of the attack have been identified and killed and that the Libyan government is praising the "partnership" with the USA in bringing these folks to justice.

Kind of how Obama went out and launched a merciless joking attack on Trump at the correspondents dinner, only for us to find out that while it was going on, the attack on Bin Laden's compound had commenced and UBL was now dead. Taking all of the wind out of Trumps sails and leaving him totally irrelevant with his birther nonsense.
 
2012-10-09 09:58:43 AM  

GoldSpider: eldritch2k4: So, it's meant to run on The Daily Show and Colbert. It's supposed to sound bratty.

That's money well spent, because viewers of those shows aren't already decided.


There are other late-night comedy shows, you know...
 
2012-10-09 09:59:09 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


Still going with the Obama lie about 5 trillion, huh? The tax policy centw r already walked back their initial estimate by more than half due to American enterprise institute pointing out one of numerous flaws. So even if you believe tpc is the only economic analysts out there, you and Obama are repeating a stance they already backed off from. Other policy groups have already shown how Romney and his plan work multiple times. The tpc report was full of failed assumptions Romney never made. But keep being an Obama mouthpiece for lies, it is what fark expects from you.
 
2012-10-09 09:59:11 AM  
I want to see Big Bird suits being deployed to every major polling place in every swing state in this country.
 
2012-10-09 09:59:16 AM  
Haha.

Refresh my memory, please- Who was it that bailed out Wall Street, without instituting any checks and balances whatsoever? Yet, it's Romney who will let them "run rampant".

Riiiiiight.

I don't know what Obama supposedly "nailed", but he'd better give his dick a quick sniff.
 
2012-10-09 09:59:27 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


People are generally lazy and dumb with short attention spans. Explaining that you would have to cut 200 PBSs to pay for Romney's planned military spending increases is too complicated for half the country, let alone attempting to explain that your overall taxes can go up even if your rate goes down if deductions are cut, and only someone who pans for gold in their bathtub would be optimistic enough to think you could not only get the average voter to understand the differences between salary, dividends and capital gains and how they are treated by the IRS but also to override their emotional reactions to these issues.

Killing Big Bird is a simple and easy to understand concept at about the level where your average undecided voter can understand national policy issues.
 
2012-10-09 10:00:06 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Haha.

Refresh my memory, please- Who was it that bailed out Wall Street, without instituting any checks and balances whatsoever? Yet, it's Romney who will let them "run rampant".

Riiiiiight.

I don't know what Obama supposedly "nailed", but he'd better give his dick a quick sniff.


That would be Bush
 
2012-10-09 10:00:17 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Last year, my pals on Sesame Street and I raked in 84 million dollars. Fully half of that was in merchandising alone.

We are the 1%.
 
2012-10-09 10:00:25 AM  

MyRandomName: Still going with the Obama lie about 5 trillion, huh? The tax policy centw r already walked back their initial estimate by more than half due to American enterprise institute pointing out one of numerous flaws.


The fact that you think the American Enterprise Institute is in any way reliable is hilarious.
 
2012-10-09 10:01:12 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Refresh my memory, please- Who was it that bailed out Wall Street, without instituting any checks and balances whatsoever? Yet, it's Romney who will let them "run rampant".


Um...Dodd/Frank? Volcker rule? Any of these ringing a bell?
 
2012-10-09 10:02:45 AM  
Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?
 
2012-10-09 10:03:04 AM  
I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.
 
2012-10-09 10:04:14 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Haha.

Refresh my memory, please- Who was it that bailed out Wall Street, without instituting any checks and balances whatsoever? Yet, it's Romney who will let them "run rampant".

Riiiiiight.

I don't know what Obama supposedly "nailed", but he'd better give his dick a quick sniff.


What is Dodd-Frank Alex?
 
2012-10-09 10:04:52 AM  

MyRandomName: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

Still going with the Obama lie about 5 trillion, huh? The tax policy centw r already walked back their initial estimate by more than half due to American enterprise institute pointing out one of numerous flaws. So even if you believe tpc is the only economic analysts out there, you and Obama are repeating a stance they already backed off from. Other policy groups have already shown how Romney and his plan work multiple times. The tpc report was full of failed assumptions Romney never made. But keep being an Obama mouthpiece for lies, it is what fark expects from you.


No. His plan for an across the board 20% cut in income taxes, the removal of deductions (while being deficit neutral) , and net lower taxes for the middle class has never shown to work. They have said it is possible to do the first two, but that is it.
 
2012-10-09 10:05:05 AM  

CPennypacker: HAMMERTOE: Haha.

Refresh my memory, please- Who was it that bailed out Wall Street, without instituting any checks and balances whatsoever? Yet, it's Romney who will let them "run rampant".

Riiiiiight.

I don't know what Obama supposedly "nailed", but he'd better give his dick a quick sniff.

That would be Bush


To his credit. And to Obama and bidens credit, they voted for the "bail out" too, unlike many GOPers in congress who would have let the world burn.
 
2012-10-09 10:05:46 AM  
This seems like something SNL or TDS would do. I don't really like it for an actual campaign spot.

Critics or undecideds would probably just see it as unpresidential (and, no doubt, he will be attacked on Fox and by Romney in that light)
Supporters will chuckle and brush it aside as overall pointless.

I'd much rather him spend the time contrasting what he's said in speeches with everything he disavowed in the debates.
 
2012-10-09 10:06:05 AM  

Cletus C.: Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?


ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.


I see the talking points are out. Try to spread out your posts a bit more next time so it's not as obvious.
 
2012-10-09 10:06:37 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: CPennypacker: HAMMERTOE: Haha.

Refresh my memory, please- Who was it that bailed out Wall Street, without instituting any checks and balances whatsoever? Yet, it's Romney who will let them "run rampant".

Riiiiiight.

I don't know what Obama supposedly "nailed", but he'd better give his dick a quick sniff.

That would be Bush

To his credit. And to Obama and bidens credit, they voted for the "bail out" too, unlike many GOPers in congress who would have let the world burn.


Letting the world burn seems to be a theme with them.
 
2012-10-09 10:08:50 AM  

GoldSpider: eldritch2k4: So, it's meant to run on The Daily Show and Colbert. It's supposed to sound bratty.

That's money well spent, because viewers of those shows aren't already decided.


Actually, the viewers of those shows are typically liberals who think that Democrats don't play dirty enough and threaten to vote Green Party. Also, young voters. This could actually help.
 
2012-10-09 10:08:56 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?

ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.

I see the talking points are out. Try to spread out your posts a bit more next time so it's not as obvious.


It's a legitimate question. Images are protected, trademarked property. It's like when a Republican candidate uses some lefty musician's song at a campaign rally and the ensuing hissy fit, only more serious.

Big Bird is big money. Care to answer the question?
 
2012-10-09 10:09:20 AM  
Key to understanding Romney's position with respect to public broadcasting is that he believes it will survive the cuts. Certainly it would have to adapt to not getting government funding, but given how little of its funding comes from the government as-is, he believes it is robust enough make that transition successfully, and that since it can, it should.
 
2012-10-09 10:09:22 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Haha.

Refresh my memory, please- Who was it that bailed out Wall Street, without instituting any checks and balances whatsoever? Yet, it's Romney who will let them "run rampant".

Riiiiiight.

I don't know what Obama supposedly "nailed", but he'd better give his dick a quick sniff.



Hammertoe,

The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) or "Wall Street Bailout" was passed and signed into law on October 3, 2008. Two and a half months before Obama was inaugurated, you dolt!

Damn that Obama and his magical time machine, striking once again - implementing the Wall Street Bailout before he even took office so he could conveniently place the blame for any of it's failings on his predecessor George W. Bush.
 
2012-10-09 10:09:49 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


He's got more then one add out, you know.

lawboy87: Why do I get the feeling that Romney is going to find himself "trumped" after the next debate.


In that following the debate, after Romney is certain to have criticized how Obama is handling the aftermath of Libya, it will be announced that the leaders of the attack have been identified and killed and that the Libyan government is praising the "partnership" with the USA in bringing these folks to justice.


Romney: "Obama lets Syria bomb Turkey, our close NATO ally and does nothing."
Obama: "Something something presidential something something."

After the debate: Press conference detailing how ten minutes before Romney opened his trap, the US and NATO had 200 planes in Syrian air space getting all bombie and stuff.
 
2012-10-09 10:10:50 AM  
I've jabbed my Rightwingistani friends about Big Bird a few times since the debate. Strangely, they didn't appreciate it very much.

Heh heh...
 
2012-10-09 10:12:08 AM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?

ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.

I see the talking points are out. Try to spread out your posts a bit more next time so it's not as obvious.

It's a legitimate question. Images are protected, trademarked property. It's like when a Republican candidate uses some lefty musician's song at a campaign rally and the ensuing hissy fit, only more serious.

Big Bird is big money. Care to answer the question?


Actually, Big Bird falls under copyright law, not trademark law. So do songs. There's no requirement to actively defend one's own copyright, the way one must with trademarks. The actual Sesame Street logo would fall under trademark law, but I don't think they used that, so PBS/Sesame Workshop don't have to complain if they don't want to.
 
2012-10-09 10:14:25 AM  

dittybopper: Last year, my pals on Sesame Street and I raked in 84 million dollars. Fully half of that was in merchandising alone.

We are the 1%.


Which doesn't cover all the operating expenses of a television show.
 
2012-10-09 10:14:36 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?

ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.

I see the talking points are out. Try to spread out your posts a bit more next time so it's not as obvious.


First off, it's called a simulpost, dumbass; I don't know "Cletus C." and we're not working together. Secondly, talking point? I was just making a snarky comment/question regarding how much it costs to use Big Bird in a promotional way - not a political statement about the choice of using Big Bird.

But if you want to talk talking points, then please feel free to explain why there is already a GOP response to this ad, but this article (and thread) are not making any mention of it. And before you answer, note that I'm on your side, but clearly I'm far less myopic then you.
 
2012-10-09 10:18:23 AM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?

ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.

I see the talking points are out. Try to spread out your posts a bit more next time so it's not as obvious.

It's a legitimate question. Images are protected, trademarked property. It's like when a Republican candidate uses some lefty musician's song at a campaign rally and the ensuing hissy fit, only more serious.

Big Bird is big money. Care to answer the question?


Hm... a Republican candidate portrays a song in a manner completely different from its intended use and running against the beliefs of the creators of the song, often overruled by the corporations who license that song and giving the actual creators no legal recourse...

or a Democratic candidate portrays a character as that character targeted by his opponent in a factually accurate manner.

Yeah, clearly this is the bigger deal. Nice to know the talking points are out.
 
2012-10-09 10:19:57 AM  

Millennium: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?

ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.

I see the talking points are out. Try to spread out your posts a bit more next time so it's not as obvious.

It's a legitimate question. Images are protected, trademarked property. It's like when a Republican candidate uses some lefty musician's song at a campaign rally and the ensuing hissy fit, only more serious.

Big Bird is big money. Care to answer the question?

Actually, Big Bird falls under copyright law, not trademark law. So do songs. There's no requirement to actively defend one's own copyright, the way one must with trademarks. The actual Sesame Street logo would fall under trademark law, but I don't think they used that, so PBS/Sesame Workshop don't have to complain if they don't want to.


Thank you for addressing the question.

So, it's tacit permission unless a company chooses to defend its copyright? It seems the Obama campaign would expose itself to uncomfortable publicity if it didn't have prior permission to use the image and Sesame Workshop pushed the issue.

Which returns to my original question about whether they had that permission.
 
2012-10-09 10:21:32 AM  

HAMMERTOE: I don't know what Obama supposedly "nailed"


Your mom?
 
2012-10-09 10:23:56 AM  

LET THE WORLD BURN!

 
2012-10-09 10:24:15 AM  

MyRandomName: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

Still going with the Obama lie about 5 trillion, huh? The tax policy centw r already walked back their initial estimate by more than half due to American enterprise institute pointing out one of numerous flaws. So even if you believe tpc is the only economic analysts out there, you and Obama are repeating a stance they already backed off from. Other policy groups have already shown how Romney and his plan work multiple times. The tpc report was full of failed assumptions Romney never made. But keep being an Obama mouthpiece for lies, it is what fark expects from you.


This is where you are 100% wrong. No,the TPC has NOT, in any way, backed off of it's analysis. Why do you people keep repeating this crap?
 
2012-10-09 10:24:55 AM  
For the next person who says PBS recoup everything in advertising please read this.
 
2012-10-09 10:25:28 AM  

GoldSpider: eldritch2k4: So, it's meant to run on The Daily Show and Colbert. It's supposed to sound bratty.

That's money well spent, because viewers of those shows aren't already decided.


they may have already decided, but they probably haven't already voted.
 
2012-10-09 10:25:41 AM  

Cletus C.: Which returns to my original question about whether they had that permission.


Fark definitely needs a "silly" button beside "funny" and "smart".

The GOP candidate for POTUS called for the death of Big Bird in front of millions.

Why for the love all things shiny would CWS and SS not give permission considering the circumstances?
 
2012-10-09 10:28:28 AM  

JerseyTim: Too snarky. It doesn't strike the right tone. A straightforward "Mitt Romney will let Wall Street run rampant, but he'll crack down on Sesame Street" would have been more effective. This comes off kinda bratty.


You expected more? This is everything the Libs have left. They've tried to brand Romney a liar, a cheat, a thief, an animal torturer, and a murderer. Nothing has stuck.

Poor whittle whibs.
 
2012-10-09 10:28:44 AM  
Just another case of Romney thinking small. How is deleting the subsidy of PBS at half a billion equal to increasing the military by 100 billion?

People are going to suffer because Romney loves his Haliburton stock
 
2012-10-09 10:29:34 AM  

Cletus C.: So, it's tacit permission unless a company chooses to defend its copyright? It seems the Obama campaign would expose itself to uncomfortable publicity if it didn't have prior permission to use the image and Sesame Workshop pushed the issue.


Not so much "tacit permission" as that the copyright holder has the option of looking the other way (unlike a trademark holder, who doesn't).

Which returns to my original question about whether they had that permission.

Few politicians have ever considered that a major risk: at worst you pay a fee or pull the ad, say a couple of mea culpas, and the whole thing blows over. PBS and Sesame Workshop have an interest in the concept that they'll die if government funding is pulled, so they're not likely to complain.
 
2012-10-09 10:30:13 AM  

Cletus C.: So, it's tacit permission unless a company chooses to defend its copyright? It seems the Obama campaign would expose itself to uncomfortable publicity if it didn't have prior permission to use the image and Sesame Workshop pushed the issue.

Which returns to my original question about whether they had that permission.


OOOOOOOOOR, they said, "They're trying to badmouth a guy who will defund us? Yeah, we're cool with this."

They don't need to give their blessing. They just need to let it lay. As the creators and intellectual property owners, that's their right.
 
2012-10-09 10:30:24 AM  

Cletus C.: Millennium: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?

ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.

I see the talking points are out. Try to spread out your posts a bit more next time so it's not as obvious.

It's a legitimate question. Images are protected, trademarked property. It's like when a Republican candidate uses some lefty musician's song at a campaign rally and the ensuing hissy fit, only more serious.

Big Bird is big money. Care to answer the question?

Actually, Big Bird falls under copyright law, not trademark law. So do songs. There's no requirement to actively defend one's own copyright, the way one must with trademarks. The actual Sesame Street logo would fall under trademark law, but I don't think they used that, so PBS/Sesame Workshop don't have to complain if they don't want to.

Thank you for addressing the question.

So, it's tacit permission unless a company chooses to defend its copyright? It seems the Obama campaign would expose itself to uncomfortable publicity if it didn't have prior permission to use the image and Sesame Workshop pushed the issue.

Which returns to my original question about whether they had that permission.


Ever get the feeling you've white-knighted a little too far?
 
2012-10-09 10:31:44 AM  

Sm3agol85: MyRandomName: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

Still going with the Obama lie about 5 trillion, huh? The tax policy centw r already walked back their initial estimate by more than half due to American enterprise institute pointing out one of numerous flaws. So even if you believe tpc is the only economic analysts out there, you and Obama are repeating a stance they already backed off from. Other policy groups have already shown how Romney and his plan work multiple times. The tpc report was full of failed assumptions Romney never made. But keep being an Obama mouthpiece for lies, it is what fark expects from you.

This is where you are 100% wrong. No,the TPC has NOT, in any way, backed off of it's analysis. Why do you people keep repeating this crap?


Because in this day and age lies are just as acceptable as the truth.
 
2012-10-09 10:32:00 AM  

quatchi: Cletus C.: Which returns to my original question about whether they had that permission.

Fark definitely needs a "silly" button beside "funny" and "smart".

The GOP candidate for POTUS called for the death of Big Bird in front of millions.

Why for the love all things shiny would CWS and SS not give permission considering the circumstances?


Well, they tweeted that they're nonpartisan. Also, their connection to public funding through PBS could be problematic.

This will probably be an issue in short order. Yet another distraction from the real issues.
 
2012-10-09 10:32:16 AM  

blackminded: We can go ahead and drop the "Nailed it" meme whenever you guys are ready.

/thanks


Book it.

Done.
 
2012-10-09 10:33:06 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


Don't know what state you're in, but here in NC we're getting Obama ads blasting Romney for denying he had a $5 trillion tax cut, and pointing out that if he lies in a debate, he can't be trusted to not lie as President.
 
2012-10-09 10:33:19 AM  

Millennium: Key to understanding Romney's position with respect to public broadcasting is that he believes it will survive the cuts. Certainly it would have to adapt to not getting government funding, but given how little of its funding comes from the government as-is, he believes it is robust enough make that transition successfully, and that since it can, it should.


The problem with that is pretty succinctly put by a post I saw on FB earlier today:
TLC was founded by NASA and the Health Department in 1972 as an educational channel. Then it was privatized. Now it shows Honey Boo Boo.
 
2012-10-09 10:36:03 AM  
As an Obama supporter, that was pathetic. Not the right tone at all. Sounds like it could be a Romney add poking fun at Democrats for overreacting to the Big Bird thing.
 
2012-10-09 10:36:09 AM  

Cletus C.: This will probably be an issue in short order. Yet another distraction from the real issues.


Sounds like you're counting on it.
 
2012-10-09 10:36:18 AM  

GoldSpider: That's money well spent, because viewers of those shows aren't already decided.


You don't just have to speak to the decided. You have to speak to the base to get them to show up. You have to energize them. If the base stays home the undecided is worthless.
 
2012-10-09 10:37:47 AM  

Cletus C.: Big Bird is big money. Care to answer the question?


Sure. Something tells me the Obama administration called Jim Henson Studios and asked if they could use Big Bird's likeness, and Jim Henson Studios said, "Absolutely. Let us know if you need any artwork."
 
2012-10-09 10:38:01 AM  

hubcity: Cletus C.: This will probably be an issue in short order. Yet another distraction from the real issues.

Sounds like you're counting on it.


Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.
 
2012-10-09 10:38:59 AM  

FlashHarry: Aarontology: The Democrats are sackless wonders.

this is true. republicans are by nature alpha-male bullies sociopaths and democrats are sensitive wimps.

ftfy
 
2012-10-09 10:39:42 AM  

ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.


Maybe they don't really like being on the chopping block?
 
2012-10-09 10:40:22 AM  

skycruiser-x: As an Obama supporter, that was pathetic. Not the right tone at all. Sounds like it could be a Romney add poking fun at Democrats for overreacting to the Big Bird thing.


As an Obama supporter, chill. He's allowed to air two different ads at the same time. And after months of super-serious "This guy is a liar and hates the 47% and wants to help rich people and will keep the middle class down and will ship your job overseas" ads (all of which are true, don't get me wrong) he's due for a humorous fluff ad painting Romney less as the sociopathic plutocrat that he is and more the small-minded clown that he is.

It's call comic relief.
 
2012-10-09 10:40:30 AM  

Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: This will probably be an issue in short order. Yet another distraction from the real issues.

Sounds like you're counting on it.

Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.


True. Trolling deserves ignoring. It won't happen again.
 
2012-10-09 10:41:52 AM  
www.gop.com
IMAGE HOSTED ON GOP.COM

So what is this GOP talking point about paying to use Big Bird in a campaign ad again?
 
2012-10-09 10:42:17 AM  

Tumunga: JerseyTim: Too snarky. It doesn't strike the right tone. A straightforward "Mitt Romney will let Wall Street run rampant, but he'll crack down on Sesame Street" would have been more effective. This comes off kinda bratty.

You expected more? This is everything the Libs have left. They've tried to brand Romney a liar, a cheat, a thief, an animal torturer, and a murderer. Nothing has stuck.

Poor whittle whibs.


You sound oppressed.
 
2012-10-09 10:42:49 AM  

null: [www.gop.com image 800x618]
IMAGE HOSTED ON GOP.COM

So what is this GOP talking point about paying to use Big Bird in a campaign ad again?


You can clearly see that Big Bird doesn't appear anywhere in that image
 
2012-10-09 10:42:55 AM  
WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING! YOU CAN PLAY ADS SHOWING ROMNEY TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF HIS MOUTH CONSTANTLY AND YOU'RE HARPING ON THE AWFUL DEBATE AND THE STUPIDEST GODDAMNED POINT OF THE WHOLE THING!!!

Seriously, Obama and the Chicago crew have always been great organizers and painfully sharp and on point and they're just phoning it just a few weeks before the election. There's no more time for long game BS, endgame time to go in for the kill is NOW!
 
2012-10-09 10:44:24 AM  
i449.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-09 10:44:33 AM  

The Great EZE: skycruiser-x: As an Obama supporter, that was pathetic. Not the right tone at all. Sounds like it could be a Romney add poking fun at Democrats for overreacting to the Big Bird thing.

As an Obama supporter, chill. He's allowed to air two different ads at the same time. And after months of super-serious "This guy is a liar and hates the 47% and wants to help rich people and will keep the middle class down and will ship your job overseas" ads (all of which are true, don't get me wrong) he's due for a humorous fluff ad painting Romney less as the sociopathic plutocrat that he is and more the small-minded clown that he is.

It's call comic relief.



Also the ads serve a different purpose. This one plays well to the low info voter who gets his news from facebook updates. I will be shocked if over the next few days this isn't all over facebook in a way that a factual ad would never be.
 
2012-10-09 10:44:43 AM  

null: [www.gop.com image 800x618]
IMAGE HOSTED ON GOP.COM

So what is this GOP talking point about paying to use Big Bird in a campaign ad again?


GOP.com is no way affiliated with the Republican party. False flagged overzealous staffer.
 
2012-10-09 10:44:54 AM  

Cletus C.: Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.


Keep sounding concerned. It'll totally work.
 
2012-10-09 10:45:40 AM  

hubcity: Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: This will probably be an issue in short order. Yet another distraction from the real issues.

Sounds like you're counting on it.

Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

True. Trolling deserves ignoring. It won't happen again.


Trolling: An accusation often used to dismiss an opposing or inarguable viewpoint with which you disagree. When you reach into your intellectual quiver and and your hand goes straight to the bottom.
 
2012-10-09 10:46:10 AM  
Me & my big mouth. I stand corrected on Wall st. bailouts.

That said, are Sesame Street and its characters profitable and copyrighted/ trademarked, or are they reliant government funding for their existence? It was my understanding that they were very profitable, and that it's only the local stations that rely on government funds.
 
2012-10-09 10:46:11 AM  

Lost Thought 00: null: [www.gop.com image 800x618]
IMAGE HOSTED ON GOP.COM

So what is this GOP talking point about paying to use Big Bird in a campaign ad again?

You can clearly see that Big Bird doesn't appear anywhere in that image


The Count doesn't, ah, count as a Sesame Street character?
 
2012-10-09 10:47:32 AM  

null: Lost Thought 00: null: [www.gop.com image 800x618]
IMAGE HOSTED ON GOP.COM

So what is this GOP talking point about paying to use Big Bird in a campaign ad again?

You can clearly see that Big Bird doesn't appear anywhere in that image

The Count doesn't, ah, count as a Sesame Street character?


Sarcasm, my friend
 
2012-10-09 10:48:00 AM  

null: [www.gop.com image 800x618]
IMAGE HOSTED ON GOP.COM

So what is this GOP talking point about paying to use Big Bird in a campaign ad again?


Please GOP keep putting Mittens wanting to kill PBS in the news i'm sure it's not going to hurt the campaign at all.
 
2012-10-09 10:48:17 AM  

Anakin Skywalker: WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING! YOU CAN PLAY ADS SHOWING ROMNEY TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF HIS MOUTH CONSTANTLY AND YOU'RE HARPING ON THE AWFUL DEBATE AND THE STUPIDEST GODDAMNED POINT OF THE WHOLE THING!!!

Seriously, Obama and the Chicago crew have always been great organizers and painfully sharp and on point and they're just phoning it just a few weeks before the election. There's no more time for long game BS, endgame time to go in for the kill is NOW!


i.imgur.com

 
2012-10-09 10:49:14 AM  

Bloody William: Cletus C.: Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

Keep sounding concerned. It'll totally work.


Ah, "Keep sounding concerned:" A variation of "you sound tired," and a sure-fire, last-gasp sissy swing of the weak.
 
2012-10-09 10:49:25 AM  
Have to agree. Anyone who hasn't decided by now can be swung by funny/snarky ads like this one. Downside, they can easily be swung back, since they have zero commitment.
 
2012-10-09 10:49:42 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Me & my big mouth. I stand corrected on Wall st. bailouts.

That said, are Sesame Street and its characters profitable and copyrighted/ trademarked, or are they reliant government funding for their existence? It was my understanding that they were very profitable, and that it's only the local stations that rely on government funds.


Federal funds account for about 15% of their budget. Remember, they don't have commercials. Romney wants them to carry commercials. Seems dirty to me.
 
2012-10-09 10:51:07 AM  

Cletus C.: Bloody William: Cletus C.: Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

Keep sounding concerned. It'll totally work.

Ah, "Keep sounding concerned:" A variation of "you sound tired," and a sure-fire, last-gasp sissy swing of the weak.


You sound tired.
 
2012-10-09 10:52:05 AM  

Cyclometh: Cletus C.: Bloody William: Cletus C.: Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

Keep sounding concerned. It'll totally work.

Ah, "Keep sounding concerned:" A variation of "you sound tired," and a sure-fire, last-gasp sissy swing of the weak.

You sound tired.


Ha! Brought to you by the letter zzzzzzzzzz.
 
2012-10-09 10:52:43 AM  

Cyclometh: Cletus C.: Bloody William: Cletus C.: Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

Keep sounding concerned. It'll totally work.

Ah, "Keep sounding concerned:" A variation of "you sound tired," and a sure-fire, last-gasp sissy swing of the weak.

You sound tired.


I'm concerned about how tired he sounds. And I'm tired of how concerned he sounds.

Also, I and other people explained why he's wrong, repeatedly, and he just keeps sounding both tired and concerned.
 
2012-10-09 10:53:46 AM  

Cletus C.: Cyclometh: Cletus C.: Bloody William: Cletus C.: Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

Keep sounding concerned. It'll totally work.

Ah, "Keep sounding concerned:" A variation of "you sound tired," and a sure-fire, last-gasp sissy swing of the weak.

You sound tired.

Ha! Brought to you by the letter zzzzzzzzzz.


Definitely sounding tired there. Did you miss your nappytime?
 
2012-10-09 10:54:51 AM  

null: The Count doesn't, ah, count as a Sesame Street character?


The Count died last month so he doesn't count any more.
 
2012-10-09 10:55:13 AM  

Bloody William: Cyclometh: Cletus C.: Bloody William: Cletus C.: Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

Keep sounding concerned. It'll totally work.

Ah, "Keep sounding concerned:" A variation of "you sound tired," and a sure-fire, last-gasp sissy swing of the weak.

You sound tired.

I'm concerned about how tired he sounds. And I'm tired of how concerned he sounds.

Also, I and other people explained why he's wrong, repeatedly, and he just keeps sounding both tired and concerned.


which makes me tired. but not the least bit concerned.
 
2012-10-09 10:55:27 AM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?

ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.

I see the talking points are out. Try to spread out your posts a bit more next time so it's not as obvious.

It's a legitimate question. Images are protected, trademarked property. It's like when a Republican candidate uses some lefty musician's song at a campaign rally and the ensuing hissy fit, only more serious.

Big Bird is big money. Care to answer the question?


The don't have to pay since Sesame Street is already owned by the government.
 
2012-10-09 10:55:51 AM  

Lupine Chemist: WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING! YOU CAN PLAY ADS SHOWING ROMNEY TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF HIS MOUTH CONSTANTLY AND YOU'RE HARPING ON THE AWFUL DEBATE AND THE STUPIDEST GODDAMNED POINT OF THE WHOLE THING!!!


You DO realize that Obama can put out more than one ad at a time, right?
 
2012-10-09 10:57:29 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Me & my big mouth. I stand corrected on Wall st. bailouts.

That said, are Sesame Street and its characters profitable and copyrighted/ trademarked, or are they reliant government funding for their existence? It was my understanding that they were very profitable, and that it's only the local stations that rely on government funds.


Let me explain the issue to you in priority sequence:

1) it is about the seriousness of tackling the debt and how Romney isn't serious
2) it is about PBS as an expensive non-commercial information sources to the general public
3) it is about early childhood development and how that helps education/socialization overall
4) it is about how Romney even looks disconnected when he tries to reference a popular cultural icon
5) Big Bird is purely a symbol of hope and joy, an icon that speaks to the past as well of the future and dirty Liberals love that shiat.
 
2012-10-09 10:58:36 AM  

mrshowrules: HAMMERTOE: Me & my big mouth. I stand corrected on Wall st. bailouts.

That said, are Sesame Street and its characters profitable and copyrighted/ trademarked, or are they reliant government funding for their existence? It was my understanding that they were very profitable, and that it's only the local stations that rely on government funds.

Let me explain the issue to you in priority sequence:

1) it is about the seriousness of tackling the debt and how Romney isn't serious
2) it is about PBS as an inexpensive and alternative non-commercial information source to the general public
3) it is about early childhood development and how that helps education/socialization overall
4) it is about how Romney even looks disconnected when he tries to reference a popular cultural icon
5) Big Bird is purely a symbol of hope and joy, an icon that speaks to the past as well of the future and dirty Liberals love that shiat.


I meant inexpensive and alternative
 
2012-10-09 11:00:36 AM  
I can't help but think that cable killed Sesame Street years ago.  Dora and Pokemon and Avatar and such like as are the kids favorites now.
 
2012-10-09 11:02:49 AM  

We get it, he's yellow.

 
2012-10-09 11:02:58 AM  

Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: This will probably be an issue in short order. Yet another distraction from the real issues.

Sounds like you're counting on it.

Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

True. Trolling deserves ignoring. It won't happen again.

Trolling: An accusation often used to dismiss an opposing or inarguable viewpoint with which you disagree. When you reach into your intellectual quiver and and your hand goes straight to the bottom.


Or, in other words, everything you post.

When I look up in my dictionary, at troll, I see
Troll -n: slang computing a person who submits deliberately inflammatory articles to an internet discussion.
Example: Anything Cletus C. posts.
 
2012-10-09 11:04:40 AM  

Bloody William: Cyclometh: Cletus C.: Bloody William: Cletus C.: Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

Keep sounding concerned. It'll totally work.

Ah, "Keep sounding concerned:" A variation of "you sound tired," and a sure-fire, last-gasp sissy swing of the weak.

You sound tired.

I'm concerned about how tired he sounds. And I'm tired of how concerned he sounds.

Also, I and other people explained why he's wrong, repeatedly, and he just keeps sounding both tired and concerned.


Let's recap, shall we?

Cletus: Did the Obama campaign have permission to use the trademarked image of Big Bird?
Some farker: Oh, the talking points are out, I see.
Helpful farker: It actually falls under copyright law and the owners are not required to protect the copyright.
Cletus: So, by staying silent they are granting permission, it seems. Seems dicey to use the image if they didn't have permission and the copyright owners chose to make it an issue.
Other farkers, in unison: Why wouldn't they allow it? Romney wants to de-feather and gut Big Bird?
Cletus: Well, Big Bird's owners declared themselves nonpartisan, plus their connection to PBS, which receives government funding, makes it seem unwise to jump into politics.
Some farkers: You sound tired.
Other farkers: You are a troll.
Cletus: Jeebus, why freak out over a question that is probably going to be raised all over the place soon. And it's a stupid issue that distracts from important stuff, don't you think?
More farkers: You sound tired. Tee hee.
Cletus: Bored and tired are not necessarily the same thing.
 
2012-10-09 11:05:04 AM  

Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: This will probably be an issue in short order. Yet another distraction from the real issues.

Sounds like you're counting on it.

Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

True. Trolling deserves ignoring. It won't happen again.

Trolling: An accusation often used to dismiss an opposing or inarguable viewpoint with which you disagree. When you reach into your intellectual quiver and and your hand goes straight to the bottom.


Much like dismissing criticism as "butthurt."
 
2012-10-09 11:05:18 AM  
PBS gets 450 million in Federal dollars anually. I think we could close up shop in Afghanistan two days early and have enough to fund PBS plus some pocket change.
 
2012-10-09 11:06:17 AM  

someonelse: Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: This will probably be an issue in short order. Yet another distraction from the real issues.

Sounds like you're counting on it.

Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

True. Trolling deserves ignoring. It won't happen again.

Trolling: An accusation often used to dismiss an opposing or inarguable viewpoint with which you disagree. When you reach into your intellectual quiver and and your hand goes straight to the bottom.

Much like dismissing criticism as "butthurt."


Touche.
 
2012-10-09 11:06:40 AM  

Cletus C.: Bloody William: Cyclometh: Cletus C.: Bloody William: Cletus C.: Just asking the question ignited farklib butthurt. Weird but predictable.

Keep sounding concerned. It'll totally work.

Ah, "Keep sounding concerned:" A variation of "you sound tired," and a sure-fire, last-gasp sissy swing of the weak.

You sound tired.

I'm concerned about how tired he sounds. And I'm tired of how concerned he sounds.

Also, I and other people explained why he's wrong, repeatedly, and he just keeps sounding both tired and concerned.

Let's recap, shall we?

Cletus: Did the Obama campaign have permission to use the trademarked image of Big Bird?
Some farker: Oh, the talking points are out, I see.
Helpful farker: It actually falls under copyright law and the owners are not required to protect the copyright.
Cletus: So, by staying silent they are granting permission, it seems. Seems dicey to use the image if they didn't have permission and the copyright owners chose to make it an issue.
Other farkers, in unison: Why wouldn't they allow it? Romney wants to de-feather and gut Big Bird?
Cletus: Well, Big Bird's owners declared themselves nonpartisan, plus their connection to PBS, which receives government funding, makes it seem unwise to jump into politics.
Some farkers: You sound tired.
Other farkers: You are a troll.
Cletus: Jeebus, why freak out over a question that is probably going to be raised all over the place soon. And it's a stupid issue that distracts from important stuff, don't you think?
More farkers: You sound tired. Tee hee.
Cletus: Bored and tired are not necessarily the same thing.


Man, you don't sound tired,you sound exhausted. I feel bad for you.
 
2012-10-09 11:08:29 AM  

King Something: blackminded: We can go ahead and drop the "Nailed it" meme whenever you guys are ready.

/thanks

Book it.

Done.


Nailed it!
 
2012-10-09 11:09:48 AM  

ohdoublereally: We get it, he's yellow.



Brings up an interesting question.  What kind of bird is he?  Canary?  A giant mutant Godzilla canary?
 
2012-10-09 11:10:19 AM  

Cletus C.: Cletus: Did the Obama campaign have permission to use the trademarked image of Big Bird?
Some farker: Oh, the talking points are out, I see.
Helpful farker: It actually falls under copyright law and the owners are not required to protect the copyright.
Cletus: So, by staying silent they are granting permission, it seems. Seems dicey to use the image if they didn't have permission and the copyright owners chose to make it an issue.
Other farkers, in unison: Why wouldn't they allow it? Romney wants to de-feather and gut Big Bird?
Cletus: Well, Big Bird's owners declared themselves nonpartisan, plus their connection to PBS, which receives government funding, makes it seem unwise to jump into politics.
Some farkers: You sound tired.
Other farkers: You are a troll.
Cletus: Jeebus, why freak out over a question that is probably going to be raised all over the place soon. And it's a stupid issue that distracts from important stuff, don't you think?
More farkers: You sound tired. Tee hee.
Cletus: Bored and tired are not necessarily the same thing.


Not a lot of people go through such lengths to show the world that they don't know how to listen.
 
2012-10-09 11:13:25 AM  

Cletus C.: Helpful farker: It actually falls under copyright law and the owners are not required to protect the copyright.
Cletus: So, by staying silent they are granting permission, it seems. Seems dicey to use the image if they didn't have permission and the copyright owners chose to make it an issue.
Other farkers, in unison: Why wouldn't they allow it? Romney wants to de-feather and gut Big Bird?
Cletus: Well, Big Bird's owners declared themselves nonpartisan, plus their connection to PBS, which receives government funding, makes it seem unwise to jump into politics.


There's your problem. You're assuming it's an issue. You're assuming it's dicey. They don't have to do shiat, and said not doing shiat is the best thing for them. No one else thinks this could be problematic for the makers of Sesame Street. That is where you're concern trolling. Speculating about a problem where no one else sees one, just to find some bad angle from it.
 
2012-10-09 11:14:03 AM  

Lando Lincoln: Lupine Chemist: WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING! YOU CAN PLAY ADS SHOWING ROMNEY TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF HIS MOUTH CONSTANTLY AND YOU'RE HARPING ON THE AWFUL DEBATE AND THE STUPIDEST GODDAMNED POINT OF THE WHOLE THING!!!

You DO realize that Obama can put out more than one ad at a time, right?


The point is they're not controlling the conversation. They have people talking about the shiatty debate and a stupid point from it that really comes across as whining. At this point in the game you should have one or two killer weaknesses identified in your opposition and be doing everything you can to just hammer at it. Think John Kerry flip flopper or Sarah Palin is dumb and dangerous type things. Like it or not, Romney is controlling the narrative because Obama is deciding to phone it in while people are currently able to vote early.
 
2012-10-09 11:17:13 AM  

Lupine Chemist: Romney is controlling the narrative because Obama is deciding to phone it in while people are currently able to vote early.


To control a narrative you must first have a narrative and that's not Romney's strong suit.
 
2012-10-09 11:18:57 AM  

ohdoublereally: We get it, he's yellow.


+1 Internets for you.
 
2012-10-09 11:20:11 AM  

I_C_Weener: ohdoublereally: We get it, he's yellow.


Brings up an interesting question.  What kind of bird is he?  Canary?  A giant mutant Godzilla canary?


He is, apparently, part lark, part homing pigeon, part canary, and part golden condor. He is at least one-quarter emu, as his grandfather was an emu. The Swedish Chef refers to him as "gobbla gobbla humungo", and his Latin name is "bigus canarius".

Here's some early concept art.

images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-10-09 11:20:31 AM  

Lupine Chemist: Lando Lincoln: Lupine Chemist: WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING! YOU CAN PLAY ADS SHOWING ROMNEY TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF HIS MOUTH CONSTANTLY AND YOU'RE HARPING ON THE AWFUL DEBATE AND THE STUPIDEST GODDAMNED POINT OF THE WHOLE THING!!!

You DO realize that Obama can put out more than one ad at a time, right?

The point is they're not controlling the conversation. They have people talking about the shiatty debate and a stupid point from it that really comes across as whining. At this point in the game you should have one or two killer weaknesses identified in your opposition and be doing everything you can to just hammer at it. Think John Kerry flip flopper or Sarah Palin is dumb and dangerous type things. Like it or not, Romney is controlling the narrative because Obama is deciding to phone it in while people are currently able to vote early.



*Sigh*

I'm so tired of the microwave generation. Everything happens instantly. Everything always changes forever at the drop of a dime...until it changes back, and you all react to it violently. About a week ago, Obama was going to be King of Earth for the foreseeable future and his dismantling of Romney at the debate was going to be a fun day for Democrats. One percieved loss of a debate and everythings suddenly gone to shiat. How did Obama go from the cold, calculating mercinary whose campaign was run like a machine to a bumbling oaf who isn't controlling the message? Settle the fark down.
 
2012-10-09 11:21:50 AM  
Finally!! Big Bird, the King of Wall Street, has met his match!!
 
2012-10-09 11:24:34 AM  

Aarontology: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

There's your problem.

The Democrats are sackless wonders.



and that's ok, cause they'll have the White House for another 4 years, homie.
 
2012-10-09 11:24:38 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Lupine Chemist: Lando Lincoln: Lupine Chemist: WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING! YOU CAN PLAY ADS SHOWING ROMNEY TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF HIS MOUTH CONSTANTLY AND YOU'RE HARPING ON THE AWFUL DEBATE AND THE STUPIDEST GODDAMNED POINT OF THE WHOLE THING!!!

You DO realize that Obama can put out more than one ad at a time, right?

The point is they're not controlling the conversation. They have people talking about the shiatty debate and a stupid point from it that really comes across as whining. At this point in the game you should have one or two killer weaknesses identified in your opposition and be doing everything you can to just hammer at it. Think John Kerry flip flopper or Sarah Palin is dumb and dangerous type things. Like it or not, Romney is controlling the narrative because Obama is deciding to phone it in while people are currently able to vote early.


*Sigh*

I'm so tired of the microwave generation. Everything happens instantly. Everything always changes forever at the drop of a dime...until it changes back, and you all react to it violently. About a week ago, Obama was going to be King of Earth for the foreseeable future and his dismantling of Romney at the debate was going to be a fun day for Democrats. One percieved loss of a debate and everythings suddenly gone to shiat. How did Obama go from the cold, calculating mercinary whose campaign was run like a machine to a bumbling oaf who isn't controlling the message? Settle the fark down.


NO! EVERYTHING SUCKS FOREVER
 
2012-10-09 11:26:50 AM  

ongbok: This is why Obama let Romney run off at the mouth unchecked during the debate. He let him get as many lies as he could out so that in later campaign ads they could be pointed out.


wow, that would be an impressive tactic. i thought of the same thing myself because Obama doesn't make such easily dealt with mistakes like that. he never has. he had a plan all along.

he can clean Mittens clock using all the lies mittens said during his first debate, since it will be fresh in voters minds. sweet!
 
2012-10-09 11:31:01 AM  

FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


The real reason that the GOP hates Sesame Street.

i236.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-09 11:31:03 AM  

ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.


Looks like they're asking Obama to pull the ad: Obama Ad Shows How Romney Sees Big Bird: As The "Menace To Our Economy"

FTFA: Update: In a statement Sesame Workshop had this to say about the Obama campaign's new ad:

Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns. We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down.
 
2012-10-09 11:33:03 AM  
Sesame Street makes way more money than Romney, and many companies on Wall Street do.

Obama farked up big bringing this up. It plays right into Obama's handout fail.
 
2012-10-09 11:33:52 AM  
How does Obama get to say that Mitt won't be tough on Wall Street? where are all the prosecutions and convictions of the guys that farked our economy?

It's truly an amazing thing that we've lost our damn minds as a society so much that the prospect that Sesame Street might one day in the future have commercials is a bigger issue than the administration possibly covering up the rape and murder of a us ambassador.
 
2012-10-09 11:35:25 AM  

Coco LaFemme: ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.

Looks like they're asking Obama to pull the ad: Obama Ad Shows How Romney Sees Big Bird: As The "Menace To Our Economy"

FTFA: Update: In a statement Sesame Workshop had this to say about the Obama campaign's new ad:

Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns. We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down.


And that resolves the "issue". It's their right to have one, and it's their right to resolve it.

And we've had a chance to see Fark Independents white-knighting PBS. That's actually pretty funny.
 
2012-10-09 11:35:54 AM  

FlashHarry: call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.


The ads in the swing states cover those topics quite thoroughly (at least in Florida).

Romney released an ad calling Obama a liar about Romney's tax plan and cited a non-partisan study that proved that Romney's tax plan can work. The source of that "Non-Partisan" study was the American Enterprise Institute.

A few days later, the Obama campaign came out with an ad attacking this one and pointed out that the "non-Partisan" American Enterprise Institute is filled with stooges from the GOP and Bain Capital.

If they keep calling out Romney on his lies like that, Obama might be able to regain some ground that he lost last week to the debate.
 
2012-10-09 11:36:03 AM  

barneyfifesbullet: Sesame Street makes way more money than Romney, and many companies on Wall Street do.

Obama farked up big bringing this up. It plays right into Obama's handout fail.


How much did you have to strain for that mental turd to come out?

Christ.....
 
2012-10-09 11:36:07 AM  

Coco LaFemme: ABQGOD: I'm surprised that PBS and Sesame Workshop allowed them the rights to make that commercial.

Looks like they're asking Obama to pull the ad: Obama Ad Shows How Romney Sees Big Bird: As The "Menace To Our Economy"

FTFA: Update: In a statement Sesame Workshop had this to say about the Obama campaign's new ad:

Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns. We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down.


Aw shoot. That's a shame. I hope the Obama campaign complies, secure in the knowledge that you can't put e-toothpaste back in the youtube.
 
2012-10-09 11:37:10 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Well, his writers did well. Now if he could only do as well when he's speaking off script


Christ, you really are a fair-weather friend, aren't you?
 
2012-10-09 11:37:11 AM  

barneyfifesbullet: Sesame Street makes way more money than Romney, and many companies on Wall Street do.

Obama farked up big bringing this up. It plays right into Obama's handout fail.


Sesame Street gets much less from the government than the oil companies do but for some reason only Sesame Street are the entitlement leaches?
 
2012-10-09 11:42:14 AM  
Oh how cute, the communist liberals lying and twisting words again, Stalin would be so proud of you!
 
2012-10-09 11:43:29 AM  
Too little, too late. Good riddance, Obama.
 
2012-10-09 11:44:15 AM  
UPDATE: 11:26 a.m. -- Sesame Street has requested that the Obama campaign take the ad down.

"Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns," the group said in a statement. "We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down."

Link
 
2012-10-09 11:45:23 AM  

jwilson07: Oh how cute, the communist liberals lying and twisting words again, Stalin would be so proud of you!


Ron Von Kleinenstein: Too little, too late. Good riddance, Obama.


I guess Fark is like a strip club.

We only get the B-list trolls at lunchtime.
 
2012-10-09 11:46:08 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: UPDATE: 11:26 a.m. -- Sesame Street has requested that the Obama campaign take the ad down.

"Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns," the group said in a statement. "We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down."

Link


Huh? What's that? I was sleeping.
 
2012-10-09 11:47:16 AM  

Mrtraveler01: jwilson07: Oh how cute, the communist liberals lying and twisting words again, Stalin would be so proud of you!

Ron Von Kleinenstein: Too little, too late. Good riddance, Obama.

I guess Fark is like a strip club.

We only get the B-list trolls at lunchtime.


Agreed...Worst. Trolling. Ever.
 
2012-10-09 11:48:17 AM  

Cletus C.: Dusk-You-n-Me: UPDATE: 11:26 a.m. -- Sesame Street has requested that the Obama campaign take the ad down.

"Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns," the group said in a statement. "We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down."

Link

Huh? What's that? I was sleeping.


We thought you sounded tired.
 
2012-10-09 11:50:19 AM  

hubcity: Cletus C.: Dusk-You-n-Me: UPDATE: 11:26 a.m. -- Sesame Street has requested that the Obama campaign take the ad down.

"Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns," the group said in a statement. "We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down."

Link

Huh? What's that? I was sleeping.

We thought you sounded tired.


Tired of always being right ... haaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
2012-10-09 11:51:32 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Lupine Chemist: Lando Lincoln: Lupine Chemist: WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING! YOU CAN PLAY ADS SHOWING ROMNEY TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF HIS MOUTH CONSTANTLY AND YOU'RE HARPING ON THE AWFUL DEBATE AND THE STUPIDEST GODDAMNED POINT OF THE WHOLE THING!!!

You DO realize that Obama can put out more than one ad at a time, right?

The point is they're not controlling the conversation. They have people talking about the shiatty debate and a stupid point from it that really comes across as whining. At this point in the game you should have one or two killer weaknesses identified in your opposition and be doing everything you can to just hammer at it. Think John Kerry flip flopper or Sarah Palin is dumb and dangerous type things. Like it or not, Romney is controlling the narrative because Obama is deciding to phone it in while people are currently able to vote early.


*Sigh*

I'm so tired of the microwave generation. Everything happens instantly. Everything always changes forever at the drop of a dime...until it changes back, and you all react to it violently. About a week ago, Obama was going to be King of Earth for the foreseeable future and his dismantling of Romney at the debate was going to be a fun day for Democrats. One percieved loss of a debate and everythings suddenly gone to shiat. How did Obama go from the cold, calculating mercinary whose campaign was run like a machine to a bumbling oaf who isn't controlling the message? Settle the fark down.


Look, I'm not rabid about it. I'm pretty sure he can turn it around, but it's ads like the one referenced here that aren't helping. The people you need to convince don't respond well to snark, it comes off as being something as part of being in the group and excludes people you need to convince. It's not the debate it's the campaigns reaction to it that I question. Obama himself was pretty decent when going after Romney last Friday. I suspect last time it worked so well because Obama could place his full attention to how his campaign would respond to national events, the advantage Romney has right now. As it is, Axelrod has to be pretty much in charge because there are things like Turkey now actively attacking Syria with NATO talk involved and other actual presidenting that has to be done concurrently. I'm just saying that Obama's numbers are not trending well, how much of that is just a simple bounce and how much is a real shift has yet to be determined. But the campaign's reaction is not sharp and crisp and focused like it should be.

I'm very much so not a liberal and generally dislike the Democratic party and would generally put myself solidly in the camp waiting for a legitimate conservative party to be not insane or legitimate multiparty voting. Not claiming to be representative of anything, just saying I'm not a partisan.
 
2012-10-09 11:53:01 AM  

Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: Dusk-You-n-Me: UPDATE: 11:26 a.m. -- Sesame Street has requested that the Obama campaign take the ad down.

"Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns," the group said in a statement. "We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down."

Link

Huh? What's that? I was sleeping.

We thought you sounded tired.

Tired of always being right ... haaaaaaaaaaaaaa


I don't know you, and i have feeling that we're not on the same side of the political spectrum, and yet I somehow feel like you and I won today :-) (that was a smiley for the rest of you, so please don't feel compelled to quote this post) And, to be honest I really don't care!
 
2012-10-09 11:54:34 AM  

Lupine Chemist: But the campaign's reaction is not sharp and crisp and focused like it should be.


you kind of just demonstrated DROxINxTHExWIND's point.
 
2012-10-09 11:54:58 AM  

null: [www.gop.com image 800x618]
IMAGE HOSTED ON GOP.COM

So what is this GOP talking point about paying to use Big Bird in a campaign ad again?


What is with the Republicans and Libya? We got rid of a murderous dictactor in a Middle Eastern country! I thought that was their thing. Can they just not stand it that Obama's policies in the Middle East have succeeded so much better than Bush's?
 
2012-10-09 11:59:56 AM  

Fart_Machine: blackminded: We can go ahead and drop the "Nailed it" meme whenever you guys are ready.

/thanks

Nailed it

Nailed it
 
2012-10-09 12:07:03 PM  
 
2012-10-09 12:08:26 PM  

Cletus C.: hubcity: Cletus C.: Dusk-You-n-Me: UPDATE: 11:26 a.m. -- Sesame Street has requested that the Obama campaign take the ad down.

"Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns," the group said in a statement. "We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down."

Link

Huh? What's that? I was sleeping.

We thought you sounded tired.

Tired of always being right ... haaaaaaaaaaaaaa


What, did you fall back to sleep while laughing there?

Sounds tired.

(Your turn! C'mon, don't disappoint everyone who's ignoring you by now!)
 
2012-10-09 12:14:14 PM  

I_C_Weener: Big Bird wants to gay marry Snuffalopagus.


Actually, Big Bird is his coke mule.

"SNUUUFFFFLEE oohoho Bird... this is some good shiat!"

"But Mr Snuffalopagus, I was supposed to give some of that to Gordon!"
 
2012-10-09 12:23:03 PM  
Yes 0bama nailed another lie

Romney said he was fine with regulations on Wall Street

0bama is the one who has let Wall Street off

The government doesn't fund big bird and Romney said he likes big bird

Typical 0bama to lie about his opponent and about his own record.
 
2012-10-09 12:24:56 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Well, his writers did well. Now if he could only do as well when he's speaking off script


Yes. Romney should show pity and let 0bama use a TelePrompTer

He does a lot better than when he has to think and speak
 
2012-10-09 12:26:06 PM  

dittybopper: Last year, my pals on Sesame Street and I raked in 84 million dollars. Fully half of that was in merchandising alone.

We are the 1%.


They are so rich they can walk around with pants and no one even cares
 
2012-10-09 12:26:39 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Yes 0bama nailed another lie

Romney said he was fine with regulations on Wall Street

0bama is the one who has let Wall Street off

The government doesn't fund big bird and Romney said he likes big bird

Typical 0bama to lie about his opponent and about his own record.


So PBS receives absolutely no funding from the government now? Citation?
 
2012-10-09 12:27:16 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Lost Thought 00: Well, his writers did well. Now if he could only do as well when he's speaking off script

Yes. Romney should show pity and let 0bama use a TelePrompTer

He does a lot better than when he has to think and speak


Jeez, I unblock trolls and all I get is this weak sauce? Feh.
 
2012-10-09 12:28:34 PM  

I_C_Weener: Huh, Sesame Street just asked that the ad be pulled.
 
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/sesame-street-requests-ob am a-ad-come-down-137888.html?hp=r3


That's a shame. I wish they just ignored it.

I hope they ask the GOP to take down the Sesame Street graphic on their site, too.
 
2012-10-09 12:30:00 PM  

hubcity: tenpoundsofcheese: Lost Thought 00: Well, his writers did well. Now if he could only do as well when he's speaking off script

Yes. Romney should show pity and let 0bama use a TelePrompTer

He does a lot better than when he has to think and speak

Jeez, I unblock trolls and all I get is this weak sauce? Feh.


Its rather telling when they go out of their way to defend and follow every republican position time and time again, and then procede to lie about not being a republican.
 
2012-10-09 12:30:22 PM  

Fart_Machine: dittybopper: Last year, my pals on Sesame Street and I raked in 84 million dollars. Fully half of that was in merchandising alone.

We are the 1%.

Which doesn't cover all the operating expenses of a television show.


Really? You think it costs more than 84000000 to produce Sesame Street? Really?
 
2012-10-09 12:36:23 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com

You can't say Mitt doesn't have his priorities straight.
 
2012-10-09 12:37:50 PM  

coco ebert: Of course, Big Bird makes better copy, no?


Dude, 'better copy'? Obama put out this ad. It isn't a media conspiracy to sell eyeballs and ads. Obama put this out there, and yea, it works better for the media, but they aren't promoting it, Obama is.

Obama better get a friggin grip. Big Bird is a child's character, do you want to associate your campaign with it so strongly?
 
2012-10-09 12:39:14 PM  

Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Yes 0bama nailed another lie

Romney said he was fine with regulations on Wall Street

0bama is the one who has let Wall Street off

The government doesn't fund big bird and Romney said he likes big bird

Typical 0bama to lie about his opponent and about his own record.

So PBS receives absolutely no funding from the government now? Citation?


I said Big bird
Not PBS

So you know the difference?
 
2012-10-09 12:40:48 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Yes 0bama nailed another lie

Romney said he was fine with regulations on Wall Street

0bama is the one who has let Wall Street off

The government doesn't fund big bird and Romney said he likes big bird

Typical 0bama to lie about his opponent and about his own record.

So PBS receives absolutely no funding from the government now? Citation?

I said Big bird
Not PBS

So you know the difference?


And what channel does Big Bird's show air on?
 
2012-10-09 12:48:13 PM  

Cletus C.: Dusk-You-n-Me: UPDATE: 11:26 a.m. -- Sesame Street has requested that the Obama campaign take the ad down.

"Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns," the group said in a statement. "We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down."

Link

Huh? What's that? I was sleeping.


So once again 0bama improperly walks over companies to try to score a cheap point

He really hasn't respect for companies. He just keeps demonstrating that
 
2012-10-09 12:49:04 PM  

I_C_Weener: I can't help but think that cable killed Sesame Street years ago.  Dora and Pokemon and Avatar and such like as are the kids favorites now.


I don't know what you're talking about, man, because Sid the Science Kid and Between the Lions are some of the most popular shows for the under-5 set.
 
2012-10-09 12:51:40 PM  

Cletus C.: Dusk-You-n-Me: UPDATE: 11:26 a.m. -- Sesame Street has requested that the Obama campaign take the ad down.

"Sesame Workshop is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization and we do not endorse candidates or participate in political campaigns," the group said in a statement. "We have approved no campaign ads, and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down."

Link

Huh? What's that? I was sleeping.


You still sound tired.

/I now have you favorited in yellow 4 with "sounds tired."
 
2012-10-09 12:53:12 PM  

Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Yes 0bama nailed another lie

Romney said he was fine with regulations on Wall Street

0bama is the one who has let Wall Street off

The government doesn't fund big bird and Romney said he likes big bird

Typical 0bama to lie about his opponent and about his own record.

So PBS receives absolutely no funding from the government now? Citation?

I said Big bird
Not PBS

So you know the difference?

And what channel does Big Bird's show air on?


What channel?

In my area channel 12

Totally irrelevant

You do know the difference between the programming and the stations right? Actually it looks like you don't nevermind
 
2012-10-09 12:54:32 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Yes 0bama nailed another lie

Romney said he was fine with regulations on Wall Street

0bama is the one who has let Wall Street off

The government doesn't fund big bird and Romney said he likes big bird

Typical 0bama to lie about his opponent and about his own record.

So PBS receives absolutely no funding from the government now? Citation?

I said Big bird
Not PBS

So you know the difference?

And what channel does Big Bird's show air on?

What channel?

In my area channel 12

Totally irrelevant

You do know the difference between the programming and the stations right? Actually it looks like you don't nevermind


And now you're deliberately being obtuse. When you can't stand by your statement, deflect.
 
2012-10-09 12:56:49 PM  

dittybopper: [upload.wikimedia.org image 150x210]

Last year, my pals on Sesame Street and I raked in 84 million dollars. Fully half of that was in merchandising alone.

We are the 1%.


what is it with Republicans always trying to punish success?!
 
2012-10-09 12:57:04 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: In my area channel 12


Aw crap, you live near New Orleans don't you?
 
2012-10-09 12:58:49 PM  

Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Yes 0bama nailed another lie

Romney said he was fine with regulations on Wall Street

0bama is the one who has let Wall Street off

The government doesn't fund big bird and Romney said he likes big bird

Typical 0bama to lie about his opponent and about his own record.

So PBS receives absolutely no funding from the government now? Citation?

I said Big bird
Not PBS

So you know the difference?

And what channel does Big Bird's show air on?

What channel?

In my area channel 12

Totally irrelevant

You do know the difference between the programming and the stations right? Actually it looks like you don't nevermind

And now you're deliberately being obtuse. When you can't stand by your statement, deflect.


I said that big bird doesn't receive funding
You still haven't proven me wrong
 
2012-10-09 01:06:53 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Bill Murray said I was weird: tenpoundsofcheese: Yes 0bama nailed another lie

Romney said he was fine with regulations on Wall Street

0bama is the one who has let Wall Street off

The government doesn't fund big bird and Romney said he likes big bird

Typical 0bama to lie about his opponent and about his own record.

So PBS receives absolutely no funding from the government now? Citation?

I said Big bird
Not PBS

So you know the difference?

And what channel does Big Bird's show air on?

What channel?

In my area channel 12

Totally irrelevant

You do know the difference between the programming and the stations right? Actually it looks like you don't nevermind

And now you're deliberately being obtuse. When you can't stand by your statement, deflect.

I said that big bird doesn't receive funding
You still haven't proven me wrong


Oh didn't you see? I'm using your same formula for proving things.
 
2012-10-09 01:10:59 PM  

MyRandomName: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

Still going with the Obama lie about 5 trillion, huh? The tax policy centw r already walked back their initial estimate by more than half due to American enterprise institute pointing out one of numerous flaws. So even if you believe tpc is the only economic analysts out there, you and Obama are repeating a stance they already backed off from. Other policy groups have already shown how Romney and his plan work multiple times. The tpc report was full of failed assumptions Romney never made. But keep being an Obama mouthpiece for lies, it is what fark expects from you.


Vote Romney: Even If He Was Saying It At One Point, You'll Never Know What He'll Do Tomorrow!

/And the best part: No spoilers! We don't know what he'll do in the White House! It'll be a surprise--we all like surprises!
 
2012-10-09 01:19:19 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Really? You think it costs more than 84000000 to produce Sesame Street? Really?


Look how stupid you are:

SESAME WORKSHOP AND SUBSIDIARIES
CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF FINANCIAL POSITION

Program expenses:
Education, research and outreach 15,721,000
Content distribution 41,398,000
Production and development 37,701,000
Global product licensing 6,423,000
Global project management 3,748,000
Public awareness 3,692,000
Muppet acquisition 6,944,000
Total program expenses 115,627,000

Support expenses:
Fundraising 5,618,000
General and administrative 15,251,000
Total support expenses 20,869,000

Total operating expenses 136,496,000

Apparently you are either too lazy to do a little simple fact checking before spewing your mouthpoop, or too stupid to be able to.
 
2012-10-09 01:24:32 PM  
I saw the ad and thought it was a Daily Show thing. Can't believe they wasted money on that. It does not make any sense
 
2012-10-09 01:36:38 PM  

dittybopper: Last year, my pals on Sesame Street and I raked in 84 million dollars. Fully half of that was in merchandising alone.


That's one of the ironic things about Romney attacking Big Big, when the CTW is one of the few things on PBS which not only pays for itself, but which also pays for other things.
 
2012-10-09 01:38:15 PM  
Cletus ought to be annoyed with 10lbsofcheese for sh*tting all over the thread and totally distracting from the fact that his question about using BB's image was legit, as it turns out.
 
2012-10-09 01:57:25 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: dittybopper: Last year, my pals on Sesame Street and I raked in 84 million dollars. Fully half of that was in merchandising alone.

That's one of the ironic things about Romney attacking Big Big, when the CTW is one of the few things on PBS which not only pays for itself, but which also pays for other things.


Merchandising takes in a lot of revenue but it still doesn't completely pay for CTW production budget.
 
2012-10-09 03:40:13 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: FlashHarry: jaysus. of all the things he lied about, they pick this? democrats always pull this cutesy bullshiat, and it never farking works. grow some balls; call him on his lies. the 5 trillion tax cut that he won't say how he'll pay for. turning medicare into a voucher program. i'm sick of this motherfarking amateur-hour bullshiat.

The real reason that the GOP hates Sesame Street.

[i236.photobucket.com image 160x160]


It's arithmetic
 
2012-10-09 03:40:20 PM  

Cletus C.: Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?


Probably not. The clips used would (barely) fall under fair use. If they used a complete segment or skit, or if the segment they used made up a larger portion of the ad, that would be different, but most likely trumped by our leniency towards political speech anyway.
 
2012-10-09 03:51:07 PM  

Name_Omitted: Cletus C.: Did Obama have to buy the rights to use Big Bird in that commercial?

Probably not. The clips used would (barely) fall under fair use. If they used a complete segment or skit, or if the segment they used made up a larger portion of the ad, that would be different, but most likely trumped by our leniency towards political speech anyway.


Sorry folks, well covered. I should know better than to reply to something on the first page.
 
2012-10-09 08:56:10 PM  
wait, Romney is pro-Bernie Madoff?

Unlike Jon Corzine, who became a prominent spokesperson for Obama's agenda once Barack Obama became the presumptive nominee, I don't remember Madoff or Ken Lay campaigning for Romney.

Corzine was subpoenaed to appear before a House committee on December 8, 2011, to answer questions regarding missing money from MF Global client accounts. In March 2012, Bloomberg reported that a memo produced by congressional investigators quotes an internal company e-mail as saying Corzine gave "direct instructions" to use customer money to cover the company's own shortfalls prior to bankruptcy.
 
2012-10-09 11:15:53 PM  
Pretty weak.
Everyone already joked about Big Bird, everyone knows about it and how asinine those comments were.
Maybe call out his horrible lies next time.
 
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