Brontes: 42 year old woman has a 23 year old kid with 5 kids? Does the family just rut like animals?
Ambivalence: Oh and she's pregnant with her 6th. That's just fantastic. Someone get this girl a tubal ligation.
untaken_name: Do Planned Parenthood's abortion demographic statistics reflect poorly on Planned Parenthood, or on the people who go there?/my money's on Planned Parenthood being a racist eugenicist organization//but that's probably just because it was founded by a racist eugenicist
Teresaol31: Also, is this really a case where the grandmother, who has apparently already raised one irresponsible sociopath
SkunkWerks: doglover: death penaltyI'm not really for that either, but that's an entirely different and loooooong tangent, I'm sure.What of forced sterilization? You're really okay with putting that sort of power in Uncle Sam's hands because the occasional outlier does something this sick?
Headso: RembrandtQEinstein: JackieRabbit: RembrandtQEinstein: A per-requisite for any government assistance should be sterilization.Liberals refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves shouldn't have children.Conservatives refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves are still people.I can't decide if you are a really bad troll or just plain stupid. Inasmuch as you don't know how to spell prerequisite, we'll go with the later.OMG I picked the wrong word from the spellcheck list. My point is totally invalidated! You win at internet rhetoric this time JR but I'll get you next time! NEXT TIME!!!1!one!Your argument that the very people who fight for legalized and free access to safe abortion are the ones who " refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves shouldn't have children" is more stupider
hasty ambush: She would not use them anyway. The mroe kids the bigger her check from Obama.
SkunkWerks: Brostorm: When have I ever said we should not punish.a crime?When you said "let them starve to death".Brostorm: The differebce is you believe the state is responsible and not the human garbage...The 'differebce' between you and I is that I don't write off children as "human garbage" just because their parents happen to be.
SkunkWerks: I thought a large part of the whole point of having children is that they have the potential to grow up a lot of different ways.
SkunkWerks: Brostorm: you are being obtuse on purposeYes, that must be it. I must be "being obtuse" and not commenting on the absurdity of the giant ethical contradiction you're proposing to be as right as rain.Brostorm: The parent should be held accountable for that abuse, just like I have said repeatedlyBut we shouldn't intervene. Even if we know we can save these kids from a horrible death (again, very probably more painful than being beaten to death). This is what you've said.Hell, why help out any other human being in a tight spot other than yourself in that case? They have a word for this kind of wanton disregard for human life. It's called sociopathy.
Headso: Brostorm: If you want to personally feed and cloth tgese children, good for you, the state should not.We live in a society and in order to have a society that functions at a level that allows for the type of innovation and culture we have you need to have people not stealing copper wiring and manhole covers to sell for scrap to feed their kids. Or do you plan on just spending 5 times as much tax payer money policing all the people you refuse to help feed through the state?
SkunkWerks: sodomizer: Or just stop subsidizing the terrible people, and start spending our money on the good ones.Were the kids "good ones" or "bad ones" in this equation?I'm unclear on this point. I thought a large part of the whole point of having children is that they have the potential to grow up a lot of different ways. Assuming they don't starve to death because of their parents (and a state who decided to play hear no evil/see no evil/speak no evil), of course.AmbassadorBooze: That is kind of the point of not having the state intervene. If an individual or group wants to feed the kids, let them. They are free to, or not. Anybody that chooses to help children is a better person than me. But I am free to choose to be a bad person, unless the state forces us (through taxes) to help. Then we are not free to be good or bad.Those kids sure aren't free to be good or bad. their parents made that decision for them... apparently.
RembrandtQEinstein: Liberals refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves shouldn't have children.Conservatives refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves are still people.
hasty ambush: Headso: hasty ambush: Woman With 15 Kids: "Somebody needs to be held accountable, and they need to pay."The smartest youtube comment ever is on there first: "Pro-Lifers, where are you now?"So you are saying this woman should have been forced to have abortions?
Brostorm: When you subsidize something you just get more of it.
SkunkWerks: Brostorm: If hee children die from starvation she should be held accountableThat still leaves a bunch of dead kids we knew were going to die from starvation, yet never lifted a finger to do anything about.Culpability is fun.
JackieRabbit: You don't stick your dick into anyone you do not know reasonably well and trust.
JackieRabbit: Never take anyone's word for it, when it comes to contraception.
JackieRabbit: This precludes all one-night stands and casual sex, of course, but if we are honest with ourselves and don't let our dicks dictate our behavior, we will understand that casual sex and one-night stands are more trouble than it is worth.
SkunkWerks: JackieRabbit: Sex with a condom really isn't worth the effort.Unless you're putting the condom on your brain, I'm thinking you may be doing something wrong.JackieRabbit: This is to say: don't have sex with anyone who you don't know is disease-free and using effective contraception.Well, "disease-free" is determinable by blood tests I suppose (though I know few people with that kind of patience, it's prudent). Not really sure how you test "effective contraception" beyond taking their word for it, which seems equally foolish if not moreso.
cookiefleck: Um, a lot of times it's the guy that doesn't want to wear a condom.. of course, she should be on her own birth control. Just sayin'. The father of this child needs to take equal responsibility.
Hawnkee: Good enough. Hang her by the ovaries until dead.
phrenicmonkey: hasty ambush: NewportBarGuy: bdub77: Having children is worse. 20 years down the road the majority of them are going to be f*ckups.Yet people still b*tch about Planned Parenthood's $47.8 billion government-funded abortionarium. I only hope they build 2 or 3 more.Like she would get an abortion. No doubt her kids were her welfare check The government subsidizes this type of activity through the welfare system, Plus condoms are still free at many places including planned parenthod and she did nto use them.One guess who she is voting for.I'm gonna guess Republican. Birth Control is a sin.
vossiewulf: SilentStrider: She should be smacked.I dunno, I think if I were going to glue a kid to a wall I'd go with superglue. It's totally skin safe, docs use it to close wounds all the time. I used some other day when I made a reallly pretty reasonable effort at cutting off the tip of my left thumb with one of my carving knives..
phrenicmonkey: I'm gonna guess Republican. Birth Control is a sin.
hasty ambush: NewportBarGuy: bdub77: Having children is worse. 20 years down the road the majority of them are going to be f*ckups.Yet people still b*tch about Planned Parenthood's $47.8 billion government-funded abortionarium. I only hope they build 2 or 3 more.Like she would get an abortion. No doubt her kids were her welfare check The government subsidizes this type of activity through the welfare system, Plus condoms are still free at many places including planned parenthod and she did nto use them.One guess who she is voting for.
SkunkWerks: The Madd Mann: Since forced sterilization is sadly not an option, the only real solution is to keep her locked up until she can't have kids anymoreWomen can, and not all that infrequently do still get pregnant and bear children in prisons.That said, I hadn't thought about her continued ability to reproduce, and so I must reward you with at least half and internet, good sir.
doglover: death penalty
SkunkWerks: FTA: Prosecutors are asking Escalona be incarcerated for 45 years, so she will not cause any more harm to her children, Denmon said.Children are, after all, quite vulnerable until they're 45 years of age......not that I necessarily disagree with the severity of the sentence, just, yanno... reasoning.
SilentStrider: She should be smacked.Everyone knows you use duct tape to afix kids to the wall.
Kazan: vast majority of services provided by PP are not abortion
bdub77: Having children is worse. 20 years down the road the majority of them are going to be f*ckups.
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