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(CNN)   Which is worse, that a 23 year old has 5 kids or that she superglued one of her rug rats to the wall?   (cnn.com) divider line 61
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2012-10-08 11:52:42 PM
5 votes:
Oh and she's pregnant with her 6th. That's just fantastic. Someone get this girl a tubal ligation.
2012-10-09 12:08:03 AM
4 votes:

Brontes: 42 year old woman has a 23 year old kid with 5 kids? Does the family just rut like animals?


Education reduces pregnancy. Neck tat is one of the single biggest indicators of being uneducated.
2012-10-08 11:55:27 PM
4 votes:

Ambivalence: Oh and she's pregnant with her 6th. That's just fantastic. Someone get this girl a tubal ligation.


We already have superglue in the home.

A solution presents itself...
2012-10-09 07:32:43 AM
3 votes:

untaken_name: Do Planned Parenthood's abortion demographic statistics reflect poorly on Planned Parenthood, or on the people who go there?

/my money's on Planned Parenthood being a racist eugenicist organization
//but that's probably just because it was founded by a racist eugenicist


Planned Parenthood's abortion demographics do not reflect poorly on anyone. An abortion is a legal medical procedure and there should be no negative connotations associated with it. Only the arrogant and dimwitted would believe that their personal beliefs should trump the reproductive rights of living, breathing, sentient being and then make a judgement on that person from such a perspective.

The "Planned Parenthood is conducting minority eugenics" claim is an oft used, ridiculous and hilarious argument considering that the majority of GOP anti-abortionists would prefer to see minorities chained, penned or removed from the country entirely.
2012-10-09 07:24:00 AM
3 votes:

Teresaol31: Also, is this really a case where the grandmother, who has apparently already raised one irresponsible sociopath


Is every adult the result of their upbringing or does each adult bring something of their own into the final creation?

I know two siblings very different from each other. Raised on the same house, same town, same schools... One is employed, married happily, kids, dogs, bills, middle america, the other lives with parents, has criminal record, unemployed, mildly sociopathic. I often wonder how much the upbringing affects the result and how much of it comes from within.
Some folks ain't wired right from the get go ya know. No matter how well brought up.
2012-10-09 06:22:26 AM
3 votes:
Everybody's focusing on the hand-gluing. Weird, yes. But the real issue is that:

She kicked and beat a toddler until the little girl was in a coma, in front of three of her other children.

Life in prison is too good for her.
2012-10-09 06:07:06 AM
3 votes:
Without reading the article, I'm guessing this occurred in the South.
2012-10-09 09:08:25 AM
2 votes:
A per-requisite for any government assistance should be sterilization.

Liberals refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves shouldn't have children.
Conservatives refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves are still people.
2012-10-09 08:25:04 AM
2 votes:
Um, a lot of times it's the guy that doesn't want to wear a condom.. of course, she should be on her own birth control. Just sayin'. The father of this child needs to take equal responsibility.
2012-10-09 08:20:15 AM
2 votes:
They really need to lock her up for life.

Not only is she a sociapth that kicked a toddler nearly to death, but any of her kids that live will end up criminals. She's a one-person bad part of town.
2012-10-09 08:09:00 AM
2 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com

/oblig
2012-10-09 07:29:16 AM
2 votes:

SkunkWerks: doglover: death penalty

I'm not really for that either, but that's an entirely different and loooooong tangent, I'm sure.

What of forced sterilization? You're really okay with putting that sort of power in Uncle Sam's hands because the occasional outlier does something this sick?


I don't trust Uncle Sam, but I don't mind the death penalty either.

I don't believe in long improsonment. It's evil and not rehabilitative. Fix 'em or kill 'em.
2012-10-09 12:23:32 AM
2 votes:
She should be smacked.

Everyone knows you use duct tape to afix kids to the wall.
2012-10-09 02:31:13 PM
1 votes:

Headso: RembrandtQEinstein: JackieRabbit: RembrandtQEinstein: A per-requisite for any government assistance should be sterilization.

Liberals refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves shouldn't have children.
Conservatives refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves are still people.

I can't decide if you are a really bad troll or just plain stupid. Inasmuch as you don't know how to spell prerequisite, we'll go with the later.

OMG I picked the wrong word from the spellcheck list. My point is totally invalidated! You win at internet rhetoric this time JR but I'll get you next time! NEXT TIME!!!1!one!

Your argument that the very people who fight for legalized and free access to safe abortion are the ones who " refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves shouldn't have children" is more stupider


Your argument is invalid.
2012-10-09 01:40:34 PM
1 votes:
Go(o)d example of what the GOP is advocating: No education for poor, especilly no SexEd, No Family counceling, No contraceptives, No support for infants outside of the vagina, etc etc
Only JESUS SAVES!!
2012-10-09 01:33:01 PM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: She would not use them anyway. The mroe kids the bigger her check from Obama.


So this has changed under Obama how, exactly?

/Failure to answer is admitting you are a mindless GOP'tard
2012-10-09 11:06:35 AM
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: Brostorm: When have I ever said we should not punish.a crime?

When you said "let them starve to death".

Brostorm: The differebce is you believe the state is responsible and not the human garbage...

The 'differebce' between you and I is that I don't write off children as "human garbage" just because their parents happen to be.


If they starve, a crime has been commited that should be punished, like I said you are jusr being obtuse there.

The parents are human garbage and should be punished for any crimes they commit
2012-10-09 10:43:39 AM
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: I thought a large part of the whole point of having children is that they have the potential to grow up a lot of different ways.


Please keep your assumptions constrained to the factual.

Genetics plays the largest role in the development of a child.

If a child is half sociopathic idiot, and that sociopathic idiot was pretty indiscriminate about who she chose as a donor, the child is doomed from before birth.
2012-10-09 10:33:45 AM
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: Brostorm: you are being obtuse on purpose

Yes, that must be it. I must be "being obtuse" and not commenting on the absurdity of the giant ethical contradiction you're proposing to be as right as rain.

Brostorm: The parent should be held accountable for that abuse, just like I have said repeatedly

But we shouldn't intervene. Even if we know we can save these kids from a horrible death (again, very probably more painful than being beaten to death). This is what you've said.

Hell, why help out any other human being in a tight spot other than yourself in that case? They have a word for this kind of wanton disregard for human life. It's called sociopathy.


We shouldn't intervene before a crime happens. Death isn't the first sign of starvation, you are aware of that right?
2012-10-09 10:31:23 AM
1 votes:
Skunk, I dont know how many times I have to say starvation is abuse until you stop pretending I didn't. It is abuse and the parent should be held accountable, not rewarded for popping out another kid.
2012-10-09 10:27:05 AM
1 votes:

Headso: Brostorm: If you want to personally feed and cloth tgese children, good for you, the state should not.

We live in a society and in order to have a society that functions at a level that allows for the type of innovation and culture we have you need to have people not stealing copper wiring and manhole covers to sell for scrap to feed their kids. Or do you plan on just spending 5 times as much tax payer money policing all the people you refuse to help feed through the state?


If getting a job is so far down the list of ways to take care of ones family that those seem like better options you areca complete lost cause and any money spent on you or children children raised by you is a massive net loss for society.
2012-10-09 10:15:22 AM
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: sodomizer: Or just stop subsidizing the terrible people, and start spending our money on the good ones.

Were the kids "good ones" or "bad ones" in this equation?

I'm unclear on this point. I thought a large part of the whole point of having children is that they have the potential to grow up a lot of different ways. Assuming they don't starve to death because of their parents (and a state who decided to play hear no evil/see no evil/speak no evil), of course.

AmbassadorBooze: That is kind of the point of not having the state intervene. If an individual or group wants to feed the kids, let them. They are free to, or not. Anybody that chooses to help children is a better person than me. But I am free to choose to be a bad person, unless the state forces us (through taxes) to help. Then we are not free to be good or bad.

Those kids sure aren't free to be good or bad. their parents made that decision for them... apparently.


Children don't make all their decision and never have. If the 13th child dies because of a lack if food its sucks but its on the parents and no one else. If you want to personally feed and cloth tgese children, good for you, the state should not.

And to kill the obvious response, The current wars are a massive waste of money and should not have beeb fought
2012-10-09 10:08:03 AM
1 votes:

RembrandtQEinstein: Liberals refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves shouldn't have children.
Conservatives refuse to admit that people who can't take care of themselves are still people.


I admit both -- Senorita Escalone should not only have no children, but she should be summarily executed, buried and forgotten. (Also, go ahead and microchip those kids now, because they are going to be a burden on the taxpayer and a staunch source/beneficiary of Democrat political support for the rest of their lives.)

I'd also admit that Senorita Escalona is a person -- after all, there's no other animal on earth that's capable or willing to torture its offspring, much less do it with such creative flair, nor follow it up with such a grand display of rationalizations or delusions of persecution by imaginary sky-fairies.
2012-10-09 10:00:23 AM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Headso: hasty ambush: Woman With 15 Kids: "Somebody needs to be held accountable, and they need to pay."

The smartest youtube comment ever is on there first: "Pro-Lifers, where are you now?"

So you are saying this woman should have been forced to have abortions?


Where are all the pro-lifers to help care for these children in need.
2012-10-09 09:58:38 AM
1 votes:

Brostorm: When you subsidize something you just get more of it.


I agree. People are terrible. We should subsidize less of them.
2012-10-09 09:52:25 AM
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: Brostorm: If hee children die from starvation she should be held accountable

That still leaves a bunch of dead kids we knew were going to die from starvation, yet never lifted a finger to do anything about.

Culpability is fun.


And the person responsible will be held accountable. The finger will justice, throwing money at people that should not have children has failed. When you subsidize something you just get more of it.
2012-10-09 09:45:10 AM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Headso: hasty ambush: Woman With 15 Kids: "Somebody needs to be held accountable, and they need to pay."

The smartest youtube comment ever is on there first: "Pro-Lifers, where are you now?"

So you are saying this woman should have been forced to have abortions?


No. The state should not pay for her decisions though. If hee children die from starvation she should be held accountable
2012-10-09 09:28:33 AM
1 votes:
Forget forced sterilization, take advantage of her skill. Forced pregnancy for infertile couples. Lock her up in some sort of breeding center so she can't harm the fetus. 20 years of being constantly pregnant should teach her to not glue kids to the wall and beat them.
2012-10-09 09:26:05 AM
1 votes:

JackieRabbit: You don't stick your dick into anyone you do not know reasonably well and trust.


Sounds like a good rule of thumb. And yet people who feel they have your trust are in an excellent position to lie to you. Not giving them complete control over the birth control decision puts an awful lot more discretion in your hands.

"Oh sure, I'm on the pill honey."

This also leaves a lot of room for honest mistakes, as well.

JackieRabbit: Never take anyone's word for it, when it comes to contraception.


The only way to be sure is to see to it personally, then.

I've heard they're looking at an effective birth control method for men that's similar to the pill for women. Sadly, it doesn't quite exist yet, so this means (unless you'd like at least to have a temporary vasectomy) condoms.

JackieRabbit: This precludes all one-night stands and casual sex, of course, but if we are honest with ourselves and don't let our dicks dictate our behavior, we will understand that casual sex and one-night stands are more trouble than it is worth.


Well, here we agree. I don't believe in "casual sex" anyway. And by "don't believe in", I'm not asserting a moral or ethical stand on the issue, nor am I addressing character flaws in people who engage in it. I'm actually saying that genuine examples of the concept is by and large so rare as to be mythical as far as homo sapiens is concerned.

But, like other mythical human traits (multitasking, anyone?), we sure like to pretend it exists... usually because it's a convenient excuse for something we know we shouldn't be doing.
2012-10-09 09:18:44 AM
1 votes:
The hilarious moment when Fark turns into a bingo hall full of grannies talking about how "people" are just bad, sick and awful...

This woman is clearly an idiot. If the $0.40 gang tats, Jersey Shore style dye job, and vacant stare didn't convince you, RTFA-ing and seeing details of her life will.

If this woman beats and murders her children:

(a) Why do we care? These kids are obviously at least half-idiot.

(b) Why do we bother? This woman is going to take up way more in resources than she'll ever pay into the system if we try to stop her from doing every stupid thing she puts her mind to.

Leave her alone, let nature sort this one out... it will...
2012-10-09 09:14:59 AM
1 votes:

Brontes: 42 year old woman has a 23 year old kid with 5 kids? Does the family just rut like animals?


She looks spanish/latin of some sort...and they breed fast as they can. Especially those of Mexican/South American orientation...from what I understand its a cultural thing.
2012-10-09 09:08:38 AM
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: JackieRabbit: Sex with a condom really isn't worth the effort.

Unless you're putting the condom on your brain, I'm thinking you may be doing something wrong.

JackieRabbit: This is to say: don't have sex with anyone who you don't know is disease-free and using effective contraception.

Well, "disease-free" is determinable by blood tests I suppose (though I know few people with that kind of patience, it's prudent). Not really sure how you test "effective contraception" beyond taking their word for it, which seems equally foolish if not moreso.


You don't stick your dick into anyone you do not know reasonably well and trust. Never take anyone's word for it, when it comes to contraception. Know it first. This precludes all one-night stands and casual sex, of course, but if we are honest with ourselves and don't let our dicks dictate our behavior, we will understand that casual sex and one-night stands are more trouble than it is worth.
2012-10-09 08:48:42 AM
1 votes:

cookiefleck: Um, a lot of times it's the guy that doesn't want to wear a condom.. of course, she should be on her own birth control. Just sayin'. The father of this child needs to take equal responsibility.


If one needs to wear a condom, then jerking off is the better option. Sex with a condom really isn't worth the effort. This is to say: don't have sex with anyone who you don't know is disease-free and using effective contraception.
2012-10-09 08:43:24 AM
1 votes:
Whoever mentioned incentivizing voluntary sterilization - I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Even if the state offered $1000 plus the cost of the surgery to women to voluntarily undergo a
tubal ligation, in the long run it would save money - particularly when applied to the cross section
of the population who:

a. are on welfare
b. keep having child after child (who also end up being on mom's welfare, receiving Medicaid, etc...)
c. have children in the system due to abuse / neglect

Are these people the ONLY ones who have multiple children and end up having run-ins with
DCF? Of course not. But the potential savings from that particular group alone would probably
be staggering.

My husband works for DCF and the stories he's brought home (names removed, of course), would
make you cry, they are so awful.

Case in point (totally not cool story, bro):

Several years ago, a little girl got raped and beaten by her father on Christmas Eve. The mother,
piece of shiat that she was, tried to convince the little girl that it wasn't really her father who did it,
but that it was really just someone in a "daddy mask".
2012-10-09 08:22:52 AM
1 votes:

Hawnkee: Good enough. Hang her by the ovaries until dead.


I make this counter-proposal;

I propose that we crazy glue her hands to the wall and then kick her to death.
2012-10-09 08:21:14 AM
1 votes:
Thank goodness the Pope won't let us give her condoms!
2012-10-09 08:13:29 AM
1 votes:
Incentivized sterilization. 1 case of per, and a pallet of Huggies, only after kid #2, we don't want anyone biatching that we've unduly removed someone's reproductive capabilities.

Or 2 coupons for half off at the nearest IHOP, for a gentleman requesting a vasectomy, with no requirement for children.
2012-10-09 08:03:02 AM
1 votes:

phrenicmonkey: hasty ambush: NewportBarGuy: bdub77: Having children is worse. 20 years down the road the majority of them are going to be f*ckups.

Yet people still b*tch about Planned Parenthood's $47.8 billion government-funded abortionarium. I only hope they build 2 or 3 more.

Like she would get an abortion. No doubt her kids were her welfare check The government subsidizes this type of activity through the welfare system, Plus condoms are still free at many places including planned parenthod and she did nto use them.

One guess who she is voting for.

I'm gonna guess Republican. Birth Control is a sin.


I am betting government has been subsidizing her breeding, 5 Kids ,no doubt 5 different dad's. Her welfare check has become a career choice. She is a democrat.
2012-10-09 07:58:22 AM
1 votes:
How desperate for pussy does a guy have to be to fark a 23 year old with five kids? Never stick your dick in crazy.
2012-10-09 07:55:33 AM
1 votes:
Kill her now. She's already caused millions of dollars of damage to society by firing out so many kids who'll need therapy, and probably be criminals. In my universe she would have sterilized the day after getting a neck tattoo.
2012-10-09 07:33:54 AM
1 votes:
Also, it's nice to see that the local district attorney has siezed upon this event to stump for votes.

"When these types of crimes occur we have to send a message, not only to the perpetrator, but to the citizens of Dallas County as a whole," District Attorney Craig Watkins told CNN. "If you choose to commit these types of crimes, we will ensure that you receive an adequate punishment."

asshat DA mutherfarker politician sombiatch

Why not send a message to all the frustrated mothers that when they get so distraught that they want to hit their kids, the should call someone who can help. And then provide those services.
I'd rather spend my money on childraising classes and in home visiting social workers who might prevent this type of thing than feeding and healthcare for the imprisoned child beaters.
2012-10-09 07:25:10 AM
1 votes:

vossiewulf: SilentStrider: She should be smacked.


I dunno, I think if I were going to glue a kid to a wall I'd go with superglue. It's totally skin safe, docs use it to close wounds all the time. I used some other day when I made a reallly pretty reasonable effort at cutting off the tip of my left thumb with one of my carving knives.
.

she needs the wound between her legs superglued..problem solved
2012-10-09 07:23:30 AM
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: doglover: death penalty

I'm not really for that either, but that's an entirely different and loooooong tangent, I'm sure.

What of forced sterilization? You're really okay with putting that sort of power in Uncle Sam's hands because the occasional outlier does something this sick?


Occasional outlier?

You don't catch the news much, do you?

Child abuse is pretty common, and so is overbreeding (Catholics and Mormons).

Sterilize anyone with more than 3 kids, we don't want to overpopulate this country like the 3rd world countries do.
2012-10-09 07:18:30 AM
1 votes:

phrenicmonkey: I'm gonna guess Republican. Birth Control is a sin.


Well, the day she beat the kid, she made a post on facebook or some such that included the phrase "why does God put obstacles in my way?"

On the day she was arrested, she was quoted as saying "only God can judge me".

I'd go with Republican too.
2012-10-09 07:13:31 AM
1 votes:

untaken_name: Do Planned Parenthood's abortion demographic statistics reflect poorly on Planned Parenthood, or on the people who go there?

/my money's on Planned Parenthood being a racist eugenicist organization
//but that's probably just because it was founded by a racist eugenicist


Not sure if trolling, but if you consider reproductive rights to be a good thing, PP is actually helping minority populations, not discriminating against them.
2012-10-09 07:12:13 AM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: NewportBarGuy: bdub77: Having children is worse. 20 years down the road the majority of them are going to be f*ckups.

Yet people still b*tch about Planned Parenthood's $47.8 billion government-funded abortionarium. I only hope they build 2 or 3 more.

Like she would get an abortion. No doubt her kids were her welfare check The government subsidizes this type of activity through the welfare system, Plus condoms are still free at many places including planned parenthod and she did nto use them.

One guess who she is voting for.


I'm gonna guess Republican. Birth Control is a sin.
2012-10-09 07:01:04 AM
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: The Madd Mann: Since forced sterilization is sadly not an option, the only real solution is to keep her locked up until she can't have kids anymore

Women can, and not all that infrequently do still get pregnant and bear children in prisons.

That said, I hadn't thought about her continued ability to reproduce, and so I must reward you with at least half and internet, good sir.


If a person shows such poor judgement and has 5 kids she is ill equipped to take care of she should not have the ability to have more kids. She obviously can't make good decisions for herself. I feel the same way about males that have kids scattered all over and don't take care of them.
If you continue driving drunk you lose your drivers license right?
2012-10-09 06:55:58 AM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: NewportBarGuy: bdub77: Having children is worse. 20 years down the road the majority of them are going to be f*ckups.

Yet people still b*tch about Planned Parenthood's $47.8 billion government-funded abortionarium. I only hope they build 2 or 3 more.

Like she would get an abortion. No doubt her kids were her welfare check The government subsidizes this type of activity through the welfare system, Plus condoms are still free at many places including planned parenthod and she did nto use them.

One guess who she is voting for.


You think she votes? That's cute.
2012-10-09 06:51:33 AM
1 votes:

doglover: death penalty


I'm not really for that either, but that's an entirely different and loooooong tangent, I'm sure.

What of forced sterilization? You're really okay with putting that sort of power in Uncle Sam's hands because the occasional outlier does something this sick?
2012-10-09 06:43:49 AM
1 votes:

SkunkWerks: FTA: Prosecutors are asking Escalona be incarcerated for 45 years, so she will not cause any more harm to her children, Denmon said.

Children are, after all, quite vulnerable until they're 45 years of age...

...not that I necessarily disagree with the severity of the sentence, just, yanno... reasoning.


How is this poor reasoning? Given her... prolific tendencies, you have to assume that she'll just keep breeding as soon as she's out. Since forced sterilization is sadly not an option, the only real solution is to keep her locked up until she can't have kids anymore. 68 is a bit old, but better safe than sorry.

That said, they really need to look at chemical castration for this sort of thing.
2012-10-09 06:38:50 AM
1 votes:
Neck tattoo.
Purge her from the species.
2012-10-09 06:09:29 AM
1 votes:
I notice that in most of the articles like this there is no mention of any baby daddies.
2012-10-09 06:09:28 AM
1 votes:
FTA: Prosecutors are asking Escalona be incarcerated for 45 years, so she will not cause any more harm to her children, Denmon said.

Children are, after all, quite vulnerable until they're 45 years of age...

...not that I necessarily disagree with the severity of the sentence, just, yanno... reasoning.
2012-10-09 06:04:07 AM
1 votes:
Life in prison.
2012-10-09 01:36:14 AM
1 votes:

SilentStrider: She should be smacked.

Everyone knows you use duct tape to afix kids to the wall.


I dunno, I think if I were going to glue a kid to a wall I'd go with superglue. It's totally skin safe, docs use it to close wounds all the time. I used some other day when I made a reallly pretty reasonable effort at cutting off the tip of my left thumb with one of my carving knives.

And if you keep debonder on hand you can take the kid down any old time. Besides, If you use tape you have all those smothering issues that end up in endless paperwork.
2012-10-09 01:33:09 AM
1 votes:

Kazan: vast majority of services provided by PP are not abortion


I mean... They are two very simple words. Planned. Parenthood. Planning to be a parent. Who the f*ck can honestly be against that?

Aside from their other medical services... That's why I give them money. It is a rational, sane, and intelligent, actually, for a society to plan for such things. It improves the community as a whole. As it only relates to those that actually need the assistance, most other people make that decision on their own, as a couple, or as adults.

I'm sure Senator Kyl (R-U486) could enlighten us further as he lives in 1854.
2012-10-09 12:46:27 AM
1 votes:

bdub77: Having children is worse. 20 years down the road the majority of them are going to be f*ckups.


Yet people still b*tch about Planned Parenthood's $47.8 billion government-funded abortionarium. I only hope they build 2 or 3 more.
2012-10-09 12:25:18 AM
1 votes:
Neither, those are both symptoms of the true problem.
2012-10-09 12:22:52 AM
1 votes:
I thought "rugrat" was one word?


Ambivalence: Oh and she's pregnant with her 6th. That's just fantastic. Someone get this girl a tubal ligation.


Yeah, I'm not usually a fan of forced sterilization but I'll make an exception in this case.
2012-10-08 11:54:06 PM
1 votes:

Ambivalence: Oh and she's pregnant with her 6th. That's just fantastic. Someone get this girl a tubal ligation.


Hopefully the state will take custody of the child as soon as it's born.
2012-10-08 11:51:06 PM
1 votes:
Yes.

Still, if you were 23 with 5 kids you know you'd do the same thing.
 
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