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(Orlando Sentinel)   Olive Garden says, gosh, I guess we'll just have to shoulder the new Obamacare costs in this crappy economy. Just kidding, they want to make all their workers part time   (articles.orlandosentinel.com ) divider line
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2012-10-08 09:41:07 PM  
9 votes:

davidphogan: I hadn't thought of that... Euwww.


Why not an ad campaign by one of their competitors?

(OPEN SCENE)

Server is coughing and sneezing into their white, button-down starched shirt, then wiping their face with the long apron.
(VOICEOVER)
AT SOME RESTAURANTS, THEY DENY THEIR EMPLOYEES BASIC RIGHTS LIKE HEALTH CARE

(CUT TO KITCHEN IN SAME RESTAURANT)
Cook in chef's hat is coughing while stirring white clam chowder

(CUT TO SMILING HAPPY SERVERS IN SOLID-COLORED POLO SHIRTS)

(VOICEOVER)
AT APPLEBEE'S WE TAKE PRIDE IN PROVIDING THE BEST HEALTH CARE IN THE INDUSTRY FOR OUR BEST RESOURCE - OUR PEOPLE!

(CUT TO ATTRACTIVE BLONDE SERVER IN APPLEBEE'S UNIFORM AND MINISKIRT)

(VOICEOVER)
OUR EMPLOYEES ARE EVEN REGULARLY TESTED FOR STD'S, SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING HOME!

(CUT BACK TO ATTRACTIVE BLONDE SERVER DELIVERING LARGE STEAK WITH SIDE ITEMS, THEN CLOSE-UP OF ATTRACTIVE BLONDE)

(CUT TO CLOSEUP OF PASTA WITH BREADSTICKS, SLOW PAN BACK TO SERVERS FACE IN OLIVE GARDEN UNIFORM IMMEDIATELY ABOVE IT, COMPLETE WITH COLD SORE, SMILING, THEN COUGHING ONTO FOOD)
Is there anything else I can... give you?

(QUICK CUT TO BLACK)

2012-10-08 08:55:44 PM  
9 votes:
If destroying Olive Garden isn't in the "pro" column for ObamaCare, I don't know what is.
2012-10-08 09:10:41 PM  
6 votes:

Dead for Tax Reasons: So olive garden is going to suck even more now?

Is that possible?


Well, look at this way. Other restaurants will soon have cooks and servers that have health care for a change. Olive Garden servers and cooks will still not have health care. Which group of people would you rather have handling your food?
2012-10-08 07:32:45 PM  
5 votes:
In Massachusetts under RomneyCare many of the penalties are assessed per full-time equivalent. So two workers working part time doing the same job count as a full time position. So if the cut off is 50 employees before the mandates for coverage kick in you could in theory have 100 part time workers and then have the mandates apply, but you can't just make everyone part time without limit and get away with it. Seems fair.

Also, you're allowed to pay them what like $2/hr as servers and you still can't afford a cheap plan that just barely meets the coverage requirements?
2012-10-08 11:45:47 PM  
4 votes:

themindiswatching: NFA: Soon America is going to have their fill of the corporate greed and they're going to take to the streets for an American spring. The people will push the corporate reset button and these greedy f*cks will be looking for safe haven in a socialist nations around the globe.

Occupy was supposed to be that, but that fizzled out pretty quickly.


Occupy is *still* going on you know...and it took a mulit-million dollar media effort to try to destroy them.
2012-10-08 10:51:48 PM  
4 votes:

cman: Liberals won, you got your healthcare bill passed.


Liberals did not win. If liberals had won we'd have single payer healthcare right now. Moderates won. you know, those people that are neither liberal nor conservative but constantly triangulating to a mythical "sweet center" that doesn't exist?
2012-10-08 10:07:53 PM  
4 votes:

cman: Businesses care only for their bottom line. They will always find ways of keeping their costs low.


All the more reason to de-couple employers and health insurance.
2012-10-08 08:45:23 PM  
4 votes:
Hey, this works for Wal-Mart!

My sister is part time, but has worked less than 40 hours precisely three times since she got the job. But she doesn't get benefits, because it is a "part-time position". The screwy thing is when they make the employees show up at 10 PM on Friday nights, count them tardy if they are late, but do not allow them to clock in and begin work until they have waited the amount of time they have been asked to "work over" throughout the week. For instance, if lots of stuff needs to be done Tuesday morning, a manager might ask her to stay an hour late to help out. If she does, then she won't be allowed to clock in until an hour after her scheduled time on Friday. However, she is expected to "report in" at her scheduled time, and then she can go do whatever she wants (including leaving the area if she has a car, otherwise hanging out in the parking lot with all the unsavory characters you find in a Wal-Mart parking lot at 10:30 on Friday nights) until the hour is up. Can't have anyone getting overtime they were asked to work!

Since their army of lawyers has so far kept the labor-based lawsuits at bay (including reports of locking employees in the store), they're setting precedent for many other cases, and many other businesses to take on this same way of treating their employees. After all, when someone complains, you fire the offending manager, and then put someone else in their place that is forced to make the same unrealistic goals through whatever means necessary.
2012-10-09 12:02:09 AM  
3 votes:

Weaver95: um...it's not a conspiracy. the corporate news folks simply manipulated the way the portrayed OWS to the nation. you saw plenty of heavily pierced and tattooed freaks with hippie hair and tie dyed shirts...but very few interviews that covered the basics of what OWS was doing. let alone the cops administering the occasional beat down on anyone who looked like they might be a protester. 'average america' never got to see what was being done in their name.


Yep. There were a number of times where reports spoke to people at Westlake and SCCC when the camps were still up, got lots of good, intelligent responses and then used whatever the dumbest, weirdest-looking person they could find said.

Compare that to the kid-glove treatment the Tea Party got. Hell, still gets!
2012-10-08 11:52:35 PM  
3 votes:
Last quarter they only made a profit of $110.8 million. Insurance would obviously bleed them dry.
2012-10-08 08:57:39 PM  
3 votes:
When you're here, you're family.

When you work here, you're farked.
2012-10-08 08:45:55 PM  
3 votes:

Irving Maimway: And this is on top of already reducing labor costs over the past few years? This seems like less issues over health care and more like "We're maximizing profits any way we can."


Record breaking profits with historically low taxes. Sounds like a trickle down supporter's greatest dream. Too bad for the middle class that it is doing exactly as it was planned to do.
2012-10-08 08:39:31 PM  
3 votes:
And this is on top of already reducing labor costs over the past few years? This seems like less issues over health care and more like "We're maximizing profits any way we can."
2012-10-08 08:36:11 PM  
3 votes:
There seemed to be an awful lot of "might"s, and "maybe"s in that article

/so the obvious answer appears to be "f*ck everybody, just in case"
2012-10-08 07:41:16 PM  
3 votes:

Ambivalence: Well, this IS Olive Garden we're talking about.


I don't think you should be able to offer unlimited soup/salad/breadsticks and then cry poor.
2012-10-09 09:03:59 AM  
2 votes:

GoldSpider: This is a business. Businesses exist to make a profit. Businesses adapt to laws and regulations in order to continue making a profit. Everyone knows businesses do this sort of thing.

Why the surprise? Why the outrage?


Business balance profit and worker benefits and public relations all the time, the attitude that it is fine for them to treat their workers poorly in the name of capitalism is a win for their public relations department I guess. The many people with your attitude means they don't have to worry about treating their workers poorly out of fear of losing your business.
2012-10-09 01:06:24 AM  
2 votes:
Decouple insurance from employment. Single payer... NOW
2012-10-09 12:21:10 AM  
2 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: And so the gradual degradation of American businesses begins.


It's not a bad thing for bad systems to change.

Olive Garden is just cementing their position as the bad guys by admitting they don't care about their employees.
2012-10-09 12:02:54 AM  
2 votes:

randomjsa: So basically what you're saying, as liberals is... "Okay Conservatives, you were right, and we were liars or fools to actually say that ObamaCare would save businesses so much money!"
At some point you're just going to have to admit that conservatives were right about everything on ObamaCare... because so far we've been 100% correct.


You're forgetting the fact that it was Conservatives like Gingrich that actually proposed ObamaCare. Remember HillaryCare? Liberals wanted single payer. Liberals aren't happy about ObamaCare, but it's better than what we've got, and it makes it more likely that eventually we'll get single payer.
2012-10-08 11:47:04 PM  
2 votes:
So compassionate. That's how you know that, in an unregulated economy, corporate entities would behave themselves and police each other. Corporations are good people, my friend.
2012-10-08 11:19:34 PM  
2 votes:
Here's a 24 page pdf on how Olive Garden treats their staff as badly as Walmart workers. -PDF-

And then there's this:
Olive Garden, Red Lobster, Capital Grille Poor Working Conditions Creating Investor Liability
Olive Garden is already directly connected to a Hepatitis A incident, in which a class action lawsuit was filed against Darden for fostering the conditions that endangered thousands of people. Without timely corrective action, major and potentially irreparable brand damage may follow. Advocacy groups are increasingly bringing attention to public health incidents linked with the lack of paid sick days and low wages, which do not allow workers to take a day off when sick; the Olive Garden Hepatitis scare underscores how disastrous that practice can be.

My sister works for Olive Garden. If she asks for the day off because she's really sick they tell her no. They'll fire her. She tries to wash her hands as much as possible to keep from passing colds/illness to the customers, but that takes time and management get pissed if the staff isn't moving things along as quickly as possible.
2012-10-08 10:27:20 PM  
2 votes:

cman: You guys expected anything less?

If you did not see this coming when obamacare was being debated then you are a moron. Businesses care only for their bottom line. They will always find ways of keeping their costs low.


If Romney wins and the ACA gets repealed, do you think Olive Garden will reverse this?

/hint: no.
2012-10-08 10:22:40 PM  
2 votes:
Money should have no connection to healthcare. Gimme the NHS any day.
2012-10-08 10:17:38 PM  
2 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: cman: Businesses care only for their bottom line. They will always find ways of keeping their costs low.

All the more reason to de-couple employers and health insurance.


I ain't saying that is a bad idea.

Liberals won, you got your healthcare bill passed. However, the sting of the bill is unbearable (individual mandate). As I have said in the past I would have preferred government run healthcare over being forced to buy a product from a for profit business. It is a matter of principles for me. Government ran tax payers healthcare is acceptable, but forcing one to partake in commerce is not.
2012-10-08 08:57:31 PM  
2 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: I've been expecting this move.

But why is it legal for Darden to require a cut of servers' tips?

Every

restaurant that has a bar I've ever worked in does this. The philosophy is, the diner is tipping based on total guest experience. Since people are such assholes that they will stiff their waiter if the hostess takes too long to seat them, or the busboy doesn't take their dinner plates soon enough, or the bartender doesn't put extra liquor in their drinks, then the owners figure that the server should pitch in part of the tips for the times those people tip well.

The worst part is that your "tip-out" at the end of the night is based on your total sales, and there is no exception for the dickwad that stiffed you because the bartender made sh*tty drinks - you pay the same tipshare out of your pocket. The highest I ever had to pay was 3 1/2%, but I know people that have paid at least 5%. This means that if you sell $1000 in a night, you can expect tips of about $150 (Yes, most people might tip 18-20%, but the remainder tip less, not more). Out of this, I would give the house $35, so I would take home $115 for about 10-12 hrs. work.

The restaurant that took 5% generally had about the same sales (the food was more expensive, but you were only allowed to take care of fewer tables) but the people tipped better. The waiters there would make $180 in tips on $1000 in sales, but then would "tip out" $50, so would be left with $130. Yes, the high-end restaurants paid about the same to their waiters as the cheaper ones.

FWIW, the best money I ever made waiting tables was at a buffet restaurant that rhymes with "Olden Doral". Yes, I got tipped about $2 -$5 per table, but I waited on about 8-10 tables at a time. I didn't walk in to a 6 1/2 hour shift for less than $100, with no tip-out.
2012-10-08 07:04:51 PM  
2 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: I've been expecting this move.

But why is it legal for Darden to require a cut of servers' tips?


Making them share tips with the bartenders, who had their pay cut.

That said, given the anecdote of one person saying "Fine, I will work somewhere else", this is probably going to backfire on them as they acquire a reputation for being more concerned about costs than employees and offering a less beneficial package to people seeking work.

But hey more power to them, hand of the free market and all that.
2012-10-09 09:20:57 AM  
1 vote:
If you are a worker you have nothing in common with businesses, managers or owners. They want your labor at the cheapest possible cost. This is exploitation. "But hey FarkedOver, you don't have to work there! You can work where ever you want!" Ahhhh yes you can but every other place you may work is doing the same thing in terms of undercutting you. That's capitalism, it's exploitative. That is it's very nature. So if you work for a living, unionize. As a worker, your only means of redress are the strike and there are strength in numbers!
2012-10-09 02:09:48 AM  
1 vote:

Mikey1969: Applebee's was the most soul-sucking place I ever worked. They claimed they really cared, they told you over and over and over when you worked there, but they didn't give two squirts about you.


I quit Ruby Tuesday's after I saw a piece of paper the manager was filling out. This was an actual form from the corporate office. It listed the number of cooks, servers, hostesses, busboys, etc. needed for each and every meal, then, at the bottom, it said,

"TOTAL NUMBER OF WARM BODIES NEEDED FOR EACH SHIFT".

That's all we were to the corporate office - a warm body necessary to make all the "efficiency" studies pan out. Never mind how good at their job anyone was, as long as the manager had the requisite number of "warm bodies", then corporate should be seeing the money flowing in. Sure, maybe someone creating the form had a sense of humor, but the fact was, it wasn't funny because that's how they actually felt.
2012-10-09 01:46:52 AM  
1 vote:

Kazan: this is illegal, and should be reported.


Of course. But do you know what happens if it gets reported?

The manager gets fired. The manager who is also my sister's friend. And then they fire my sister for whatever reason they come up with. And then they put in another manager who does the same damn thing again, and keep them in place until someone else complains.

The people in charge of this policy will never, ever, see any consequences, only profit. They're insulated from the wrongdoing better than Stringer Bell on The Wire.
2012-10-09 01:31:22 AM  
1 vote:

GhostFish: They will certainly sign up with the GOP if someone can market it to them well.


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"You see, the America I believe in is one that we all can enjoy, praising God and living to His Glory..."

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a.abcnews.com
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www.addictinginfo.org
"See, the America that I love is complete with Americans that I love even more. And if we all adhere to the principles of small government, except when it comes to our sex lives, then we can still beat the Russians!"

wonkette.com
"Miss Bachmann, have you had your meds today?"

3.bp.blogspot.com
"Of course I have! And it's Misses Bachmann!"

images.politico.com
"But...um...nevermind. Next!"

ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com
"I'm not going to get this, am I?"

farm6.staticflickr.com
"Ha-hah...No. Next!"

allenwestrepublic.files.wordpress.com
"Hey, I'm Allen! I'm conservative!"

cfo-dailyreport.com
"Who the f*ck let him in here?"

netrightdaily.com
"I have the ability to speak to whatever or whomever needs to be spoken to. I can be in favor of tax cuts to the wealthy and expansion of government military spending. I can institute an assault weapons ban and still get the NRA's endorsement. I can kill off Social Security and still get grandparents to support me. I can sell anyone on anything. I can be all things to all people!"

www.nypost.com
"Yes, but you're going to get your ass handed to you in the election. People like winners!"

2012-10-09 12:40:56 AM  
1 vote:

Free_Chilly_Willy: cameroncrazy1984: If you were an impressable [sic] young college student you'd be covered under your parents' insurance.

If THEY havent lost thier own insurence because thier bosses have decided just to pay the fee....


I find your lack of spell check to be distracting. are you really this bad, or are you doing it on purpose?
2012-10-09 12:38:02 AM  
1 vote:

cman: A Dark Evil Omen: Weaver95: um...it's not a conspiracy. the corporate news folks simply manipulated the way the portrayed OWS to the nation. you saw plenty of heavily pierced and tattooed freaks with hippie hair and tie dyed shirts...but very few interviews that covered the basics of what OWS was doing. let alone the cops administering the occasional beat down on anyone who looked like they might be a protester. 'average america' never got to see what was being done in their name.

Yep. There were a number of times where reports spoke to people at Westlake and SCCC when the camps were still up, got lots of good, intelligent responses and then used whatever the dumbest, weirdest-looking person they could find said.

Compare that to the kid-glove treatment the Tea Party got. Hell, still gets!

You see that because you want to see that. OWS and Tea Party both got thrashed in the media. Since OWS is your side, you want to fit whatever you can to make you feel like the other side has an unfair advantage. Guess what? The Tea Party thinks exactly the same way as you do. They think that OWS has gotten a free pass while the Tea Party has been hammered week after week in the news.

We see what we only want to see. We create our own reality. If you sat back and actually watched you would see that news networks care about showing morons. Hell, Drew Curtis wrote a damn book about it.


Find me some tea partier's that were beaten by the police. Keep in mind they brought guns.
2012-10-09 12:37:05 AM  
1 vote:

Teufelaffe: Free_Chilly_Willy: cameroncrazy1984: Free_Chilly_Willy: And so the gradual degradation of American businesses begins.

It's the f*cking Olive Garden. Like it was the classiest joint to begin with.

I'll be sure to tell that the waiters/cooks/hostesses/young people who will lose thier jobs and/or be cut hours because of this.

Great job libs!!!

Blaming this kind of shiat on the "libs" is like the guy who beats his wife saying, "Look what you made me do!" after he hits her. Darden should just man the fark up and be honest, "I don't like the idea of making less profit, and I don't give a flying fark about anyone who works for me, so I'm going to do whatever it takes to keep profits high, no matter what it means to my employees."


I expect the CEO to be on "Undercover boss" to try and cover their ass.

/the most ridiculous piece of propaganda foisted on the American public since John Stossel reported on ... well, anything.
2012-10-09 12:33:49 AM  
1 vote:

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: not to mention the fact that olive garden is teaching younger workers that voting for the GOP isn't going to help their personal bottom line

Or that voting for big government and massive regualations will cause buisnesses to do what they can to watch thier bottom line.

If I were an impressable young college student cuaght up in the "Hope and Change" working there, that is what i would take away from it.


If you were an impressable [sic] young college student you'd be covered under your parents' insurance.
2012-10-09 12:33:48 AM  
1 vote:
Helooooooooooooo universal single-payer!
2012-10-09 12:31:09 AM  
1 vote:

GhostFish:

We came unarmed...this time?


I think it more likely that the GOP is going to be a price for abandoning everyone under the age of 55. they don't see it right now, because the baby boomers are keeping them afloat. but 10 years? 20 years? there might not BE a Republican party anymore. the way things are trending, the GOP is losing a lot of younger voters and not getting them back. Hell, even Limbaugh is losing his audience. he hasn't picked up any new listeners in a while, just maintained his grip on what he already had. that's the way with most GOP pundits and political organizations. no new blood at all. just the same faces as always.
2012-10-09 12:08:40 AM  
1 vote:
its almost as if business shouldn't provide health care, and we get medicare for all like the rest of the civilized world.
2012-10-09 12:06:36 AM  
1 vote:

cman: A Dark Evil Omen: Weaver95: um...it's not a conspiracy. the corporate news folks simply manipulated the way the portrayed OWS to the nation. you saw plenty of heavily pierced and tattooed freaks with hippie hair and tie dyed shirts...but very few interviews that covered the basics of what OWS was doing. let alone the cops administering the occasional beat down on anyone who looked like they might be a protester. 'average america' never got to see what was being done in their name.

Yep. There were a number of times where reports spoke to people at Westlake and SCCC when the camps were still up, got lots of good, intelligent responses and then used whatever the dumbest, weirdest-looking person they could find said.

Compare that to the kid-glove treatment the Tea Party got. Hell, still gets!

You see that because you want to see that. OWS and Tea Party both got thrashed in the media. Since OWS is your side, you want to fit whatever you can to make you feel like the other side has an unfair advantage. Guess what? The Tea Party thinks exactly the same way as you do. They think that OWS has gotten a free pass while the Tea Party has been hammered week after week in the news.

We see what we only want to see. We create our own reality. If you sat back and actually watched you would see that news networks care about showing morons. Hell, Drew Curtis wrote a damn book about it.


mediamatters.org

Don't be a moron.
2012-10-09 12:05:45 AM  
1 vote:
For every large company like Olive Garden who says that they can't afford healthcare for their workers, we should know how much their CEOs make. I just want know how really "poor" they are in that they can treat their workers so disposable.
2012-10-09 12:00:44 AM  
1 vote:

ox45tallboy: Hey, this works for Wal-Mart!

My sister is part time, but has worked less than 40 hours precisely three times since she got the job. But she doesn't get benefits, because it is a "part-time position". The screwy thing is when they make the employees show up at 10 PM on Friday nights, count them tardy if they are late, but do not allow them to clock in and begin work until they have waited the amount of time they have been asked to "work over" throughout the week. For instance, if lots of stuff needs to be done Tuesday morning, a manager might ask her to stay an hour late to help out. If she does, then she won't be allowed to clock in until an hour after her scheduled time on Friday. However, she is expected to "report in" at her scheduled time, and then she can go do whatever she wants (including leaving the area if she has a car, otherwise hanging out in the parking lot with all the unsavory characters you find in a Wal-Mart parking lot at 10:30 on Friday nights) until the hour is up. Can't have anyone getting overtime they were asked to work!

Since their army of lawyers has so far kept the labor-based lawsuits at bay (including reports of locking employees in the store), they're setting precedent for many other cases, and many other businesses to take on this same way of treating their employees. After all, when someone complains, you fire the offending manager, and then put someone else in their place that is forced to make the same unrealistic goals through whatever means necessary.


Doesn't surprise me at all. Some years ago, when doing an article on work conditions at WalMart, a journalist did the math and pointed out to their WalMart contact that giving every employee in the company a $1/hr raise would be great for morale, resulting in more productive workers, and would only cut their annual profits by 2%. The WalMart talking head said that 2% was too much of a "loss."
2012-10-08 11:59:48 PM  
1 vote:

cman: Weaver95: themindiswatching: NFA: Soon America is going to have their fill of the corporate greed and they're going to take to the streets for an American spring. The people will push the corporate reset button and these greedy f*cks will be looking for safe haven in a socialist nations around the globe.

Occupy was supposed to be that, but that fizzled out pretty quickly.

Occupy is *still* going on you know...and it took a mulit-million dollar media effort to try to destroy them.

I never knew you believed in conspiracy theories, Weaver.

Networks crave ratings, so they show the most bat shiat insane people (just like they did with the Tea Party) at OWS rallies. To the average American we care more about what Snooki named her kid, not a discussion of the tariff. Americans dont like that kind of news. They want to see squirrels on water boards, people getting kicked in the nuts, people who cant spell worth a shiat making a stupid protestor sign. They are a corporation in it to make money, and since no money is in real news, they have to give into what their views demand.


um...it's not a conspiracy. the corporate news folks simply manipulated the way the portrayed OWS to the nation. you saw plenty of heavily pierced and tattooed freaks with hippie hair and tie dyed shirts...but very few interviews that covered the basics of what OWS was doing. let alone the cops administering the occasional beat down on anyone who looked like they might be a protester. 'average america' never got to see what was being done in their name.
2012-10-08 11:59:31 PM  
1 vote:

randomjsa: So basically what you're saying, as liberals is... "Okay Conservatives, you were right, and we were liars or fools to actually say that ObamaCare would save businesses so much money!"

At some point you're just going to have to admit that conservatives were right about everything on ObamaCare... because so far we've been 100% correct.


Conservatives were right about everything in Obamacare, back when they proposed it in the 1990s.
2012-10-08 11:56:45 PM  
1 vote:
Unlimited soup/salad/breadsticks/hepatitis.
2012-10-08 11:56:32 PM  
1 vote:

GhostFish: What are they doing other than sitting around and complaining?
I've yet to hear about any Occupy organizations promoting people for office or pushing legislation.


Mostly we do useful things instead of wasting our time playing stupid political games, like strike support, or blocking foreclosures, or setting up replacement libraries when the city shuts them down. By and large electoral politics is pointless and a sucker's game. Beyond that, there are a number of groups standing in solidarity with the occupations, like MoveToAmend, that are doing exactly that.
2012-10-08 11:53:05 PM  
1 vote:
Nearly every place that can pull this shiat will, and they have forever. Why pay for a full-timers benefits when you don't have to? I once worked at a place that hired me part-time, and wanted me to work 48 hours every week. Not during busy seasons, not when we unexpectedly lose a worker, but ALL THE TIME. I told the boss that if I did that, they would never have any incentive to hire me as a full-time employee.

Much to my surprise (/sarcasm) I was fired the next week. Imagine the give-a-farks I had. No way were they gonna pull that shiat on me. Find another sucker.

/It was a shiat job with bad pay. At the time, it was easier to get a shiat job, and most wouldn't try to put that much shiat over on you.
2012-10-08 11:52:58 PM  
1 vote:
I worked in a lot of restaurants. No one ever worked full-time. Yawn.
2012-10-08 11:52:43 PM  
1 vote:

Weaver95: themindiswatching: NFA: Soon America is going to have their fill of the corporate greed and they're going to take to the streets for an American spring. The people will push the corporate reset button and these greedy f*cks will be looking for safe haven in a socialist nations around the globe.

Occupy was supposed to be that, but that fizzled out pretty quickly.

Occupy is *still* going on you know...and it took a mulit-million dollar media effort to try to destroy them.


Still here, still working. globalNOISE starts this weekend, should be interesting.
2012-10-08 11:51:32 PM  
1 vote:

WizardofToast: Does that mean I get half the breadsticks?


Sure, as long as you realize they've been sneezed on by a server without access to healthcare, nor the effort and/or ability to quit their job and go to work at any other restaurant that does offer health care.

Pass the garlic butter?
2012-10-08 11:48:14 PM  
1 vote:
This is exactly the point of ObamaCare. Make single payer look better every day.
2012-10-08 11:24:34 PM  
1 vote:

DanZero: /all hail the great Sysconian Empire


www.syscoportland.com
"Okay, boil-in-the-bag sauces...check, pre-cooked pasta...check, frozen breadsticks...check...pre-cooked checken...pre-cooked chicken....pre-cooked chicken...Hey Mike! Where the f*ck is the pre-cooked chicken? You know this raw sh*t won't work in the microwave!"

2012-10-08 11:13:32 PM  
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slayer199: On the flip side, if businesses choose to keep people on full-time, wanna bet those costs get passed on to consumers?


In most cases, the "full-time" employees already have benefits such as health care.

I concede to Republicans everywhere that ObamaCare is a clusterf*ck, but it is still better than anything the Republicans have proposed since they started telling everyone that they (the Republicans) had never proposed ObamaCare in the first place.

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2012-10-08 10:16:01 PM  
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That doesn't sound like hospitaliano.
2012-10-08 10:09:17 PM  
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"I think a lot of those employers, especially restaurants, are just going to ensure nobody gets scheduled more than 30 hours a week," said Matthew Snook, partner with human-resources consulting company Mercer.

Because if there's one thing that really makes me want to eat there it's knowing that the staff handling my food don't have adequate health care coverage AND know they're getting boned by their greedy employer.

yeah. no thanks.
2012-10-08 09:13:31 PM  
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Analysts said limiting hours could pose new challenges, including higher turnover and less-qualified workers.

What could possibly go wrong?
2012-10-08 09:04:12 PM  
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MoonPirate: I know nothing of business but isn't the largest cost of a restaurant payroll?


Actually, generally speaking, food cost should be about 25-26%, liquor cost 20% (of liquor drinks, of course), overhead less than 30%, and labor cost somewhere around 25-28%. Advertising can vary from 0% to 10%, depending on circumstances,

Restaurants vary greatly in these numbers. For example, some buildings, especially family-owned restaurants, are totally paid off, so their overhead costs are lower (they only pay for repairs and utilities). Advertising specials such as cheap wings or coupons may not only raise your advertising costs, but also raise your food costs at the same time it raises total income. At the same time, you may not let anyone know that you've raised the price of drinks by $1 each, which lowers your liquor costs in an effort to make up for the shortfall on the food.
2012-10-08 08:34:34 PM  
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and people are surprised by this, why?

businesses have stated that it is easier for them to ditch people's health care and pay the fine (for those full time) or to just shift more people to part time.
 
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