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2012-10-08 11:42:04 PM
Does that mean I get half the breadsticks?
 
2012-10-08 11:45:47 PM

themindiswatching: NFA: Soon America is going to have their fill of the corporate greed and they're going to take to the streets for an American spring. The people will push the corporate reset button and these greedy f*cks will be looking for safe haven in a socialist nations around the globe.

Occupy was supposed to be that, but that fizzled out pretty quickly.


Occupy is *still* going on you know...and it took a mulit-million dollar media effort to try to destroy them.
 
2012-10-08 11:45:49 PM

ox45tallboy: penthesilea: Here's a 24 page pdf

...and you just lost 95% of Farkers. I'm sure you had a relevant point, but give us an excerpt or something. We all have ADHD here, you're lucky we can get through a single thread.


Yeah, I know. I was trying to avoid tl;dr.

Tiny bit of the summary:
Darden regularly pays the lowest wages possible to its employees. The federal subminimum wage has been stuck at $2.13 since 1991. Darden has lobbied to keep minimum wages stagnant, while Darden's executive compensation of the CEO has risen 23% per year on average since 2005 to its current level of 8.5 million in 2011.

The report outlines Darden's recent wage theft lawsuits, including several Texas-based federal lawsuits for nonpayment of wages, and a California class action lawsuit in which the company was charged with forcing its workers to pay for the cost of purchasing and maintaining uniforms, in which the company was forced to pay employees $9.5 million.

The report also outlines recent lawsuits against Darden for employment discrimination based on race, including a 2008 lawsuit that charged that Beachwood, Ohio Bahama Breeze employees of color were repeatedly pelted with racial slurs such as "Aunt Jemima" and "stupid n**ger" by managers. This resulted in a EEOC announcement of a $1.26 million settlement from Darden in 2009. In describing the settlement, EEOC's acting chairman Stuart J. Ishimaru said "No worker should have to endure a racially hostile work environment in order to earn a paycheck."


...also health & safety problems...etc.
 
2012-10-08 11:47:04 PM
So compassionate. That's how you know that, in an unregulated economy, corporate entities would behave themselves and police each other. Corporations are good people, my friend.
 
2012-10-08 11:48:14 PM
This is exactly the point of ObamaCare. Make single payer look better every day.
 
2012-10-08 11:51:32 PM

WizardofToast: Does that mean I get half the breadsticks?


Sure, as long as you realize they've been sneezed on by a server without access to healthcare, nor the effort and/or ability to quit their job and go to work at any other restaurant that does offer health care.

Pass the garlic butter?
 
2012-10-08 11:51:38 PM

Weaver95: themindiswatching: NFA: Soon America is going to have their fill of the corporate greed and they're going to take to the streets for an American spring. The people will push the corporate reset button and these greedy f*cks will be looking for safe haven in a socialist nations around the globe.

Occupy was supposed to be that, but that fizzled out pretty quickly.

Occupy is *still* going on you know...and it took a mulit-million dollar media effort to try to destroy them.


What are they doing other than sitting around and complaining?
I've yet to hear about any Occupy organizations promoting people for office or pushing legislation.
 
2012-10-08 11:52:35 PM
Last quarter they only made a profit of $110.8 million. Insurance would obviously bleed them dry.
 
2012-10-08 11:52:43 PM

Weaver95: themindiswatching: NFA: Soon America is going to have their fill of the corporate greed and they're going to take to the streets for an American spring. The people will push the corporate reset button and these greedy f*cks will be looking for safe haven in a socialist nations around the globe.

Occupy was supposed to be that, but that fizzled out pretty quickly.

Occupy is *still* going on you know...and it took a mulit-million dollar media effort to try to destroy them.


Still here, still working. globalNOISE starts this weekend, should be interesting.
 
2012-10-08 11:52:58 PM
I worked in a lot of restaurants. No one ever worked full-time. Yawn.
 
2012-10-08 11:53:05 PM
Nearly every place that can pull this shiat will, and they have forever. Why pay for a full-timers benefits when you don't have to? I once worked at a place that hired me part-time, and wanted me to work 48 hours every week. Not during busy seasons, not when we unexpectedly lose a worker, but ALL THE TIME. I told the boss that if I did that, they would never have any incentive to hire me as a full-time employee.

Much to my surprise (/sarcasm) I was fired the next week. Imagine the give-a-farks I had. No way were they gonna pull that shiat on me. Find another sucker.

/It was a shiat job with bad pay. At the time, it was easier to get a shiat job, and most wouldn't try to put that much shiat over on you.
 
2012-10-08 11:53:39 PM
We're already at the point where, except for the double cheeseburger, it's simply easier and cheaper to cook your own meals. Even if you cook them horribly, they'll probably taste better than the alternative, and are remarkably cheaper. Costs like seven or eight bucks per meal at at a fast food place, let alone a sit-down fast food place like Olive Garden, which will drive you up to fifteen or twenty. At that point you can do better at your local grocery.
 
2012-10-08 11:53:49 PM

GhostFish: I've yet to hear about any Occupy organizations promoting people for office or pushing legislation.


And this is the downside to the lack of organization. Also, Occupy tends to be inclusive enough that any proposed legislation would have quite a few dissenters within its ranks.
 
2012-10-08 11:55:00 PM
Yeah they have to bear the burden in this tough economy where corporate profits have never been higher. Oh shiat paying more for the benefit of workers? fark that shiat. Oh "what about trickle down?" Hahaahhaa you actually believe that shiat? I'm rich as fark thanks idiots.
 
2012-10-08 11:55:11 PM
www.resistnwo.com
 
2012-10-08 11:55:52 PM

GhostFish:
I've yet to hear about any Occupy organizations promoting people for office or pushing legislation.


nor will you. it is not in the best interests of wall street (or its supporters) to see Occupy look even remotely 'mainstream'. they *must* be seen as crazy and/or ineffective. preferably laughed at, but so long as they're sidelined it's acceptable. anything to keep the idea of 'OWS' out of the mainstream consciousness.
 
2012-10-08 11:56:32 PM

GhostFish: What are they doing other than sitting around and complaining?
I've yet to hear about any Occupy organizations promoting people for office or pushing legislation.


Mostly we do useful things instead of wasting our time playing stupid political games, like strike support, or blocking foreclosures, or setting up replacement libraries when the city shuts them down. By and large electoral politics is pointless and a sucker's game. Beyond that, there are a number of groups standing in solidarity with the occupations, like MoveToAmend, that are doing exactly that.
 
2012-10-08 11:56:45 PM
Unlimited soup/salad/breadsticks/hepatitis.
 
2012-10-08 11:56:58 PM

Weaver95: themindiswatching: NFA: Soon America is going to have their fill of the corporate greed and they're going to take to the streets for an American spring. The people will push the corporate reset button and these greedy f*cks will be looking for safe haven in a socialist nations around the globe.

Occupy was supposed to be that, but that fizzled out pretty quickly.

Occupy is *still* going on you know...and it took a mulit-million dollar media effort to try to destroy them.


I never knew you believed in conspiracy theories, Weaver.

Networks crave ratings, so they show the most bat shiat insane people (just like they did with the Tea Party) at OWS rallies. To the average American we care more about what Snooki named her kid, not a discussion of the tariff. Americans dont like that kind of news. They want to see squirrels on water boards, people getting kicked in the nuts, people who cant spell worth a shiat making a stupid protestor sign. They are a corporation in it to make money, and since no money is in real news, they have to give into what their views demand.
 
2012-10-08 11:57:18 PM
So basically what you're saying, as liberals is... "Okay Conservatives, you were right, and we were liars or fools to actually say that ObamaCare would save businesses so much money!"

At some point you're just going to have to admit that conservatives were right about everything on ObamaCare... because so far we've been 100% correct.
 
2012-10-08 11:57:49 PM

Brick-House: [www.resistnwo.com image 400x296]


Because we know the status quo was sooo much better.

/rolls eyes
 
2012-10-08 11:59:31 PM

randomjsa: So basically what you're saying, as liberals is... "Okay Conservatives, you were right, and we were liars or fools to actually say that ObamaCare would save businesses so much money!"

At some point you're just going to have to admit that conservatives were right about everything on ObamaCare... because so far we've been 100% correct.


Conservatives were right about everything in Obamacare, back when they proposed it in the 1990s.
 
2012-10-08 11:59:48 PM

cman: Weaver95: themindiswatching: NFA: Soon America is going to have their fill of the corporate greed and they're going to take to the streets for an American spring. The people will push the corporate reset button and these greedy f*cks will be looking for safe haven in a socialist nations around the globe.

Occupy was supposed to be that, but that fizzled out pretty quickly.

Occupy is *still* going on you know...and it took a mulit-million dollar media effort to try to destroy them.

I never knew you believed in conspiracy theories, Weaver.

Networks crave ratings, so they show the most bat shiat insane people (just like they did with the Tea Party) at OWS rallies. To the average American we care more about what Snooki named her kid, not a discussion of the tariff. Americans dont like that kind of news. They want to see squirrels on water boards, people getting kicked in the nuts, people who cant spell worth a shiat making a stupid protestor sign. They are a corporation in it to make money, and since no money is in real news, they have to give into what their views demand.


um...it's not a conspiracy. the corporate news folks simply manipulated the way the portrayed OWS to the nation. you saw plenty of heavily pierced and tattooed freaks with hippie hair and tie dyed shirts...but very few interviews that covered the basics of what OWS was doing. let alone the cops administering the occasional beat down on anyone who looked like they might be a protester. 'average america' never got to see what was being done in their name.
 
2012-10-09 12:00:09 AM

ox45tallboy: BarkingUnicorn: I've been expecting this move.

But why is it legal for Darden to require a cut of servers' tips?

Every restaurant that has a bar I've ever worked in does this. The philosophy is, the diner is tipping based on total guest experience. Since people are such assholes that they will stiff their waiter if the hostess takes too long to seat them, or the busboy doesn't take their dinner plates soon enough, or the bartender doesn't put extra liquor in their drinks, then the owners figure that the server should pitch in part of the tips for the times those people tip well.

The worst part is that your "tip-out" at the end of the night is based on your total sales, and there is no exception for the dickwad that stiffed you because the bartender made sh*tty drinks - you pay the same tipshare out of your pocket. The highest I ever had to pay was 3 1/2%, but I know people that have paid at least 5%. This means that if you sell $1000 in a night, you can expect tips of about $150 (Yes, most people might tip 18-20%, but the remainder tip less, not more). Out of this, I would give the house $35, so I would take home $115 for about 10-12 hrs. work.

The restaurant that took 5% generally had about the same sales (the food was more expensive, but you were only allowed to take care of fewer tables) but the people tipped better. The waiters there would make $180 in tips on $1000 in sales, but then would "tip out" $50, so would be left with $130. Yes, the high-end restaurants paid about the same to their waiters as the cheaper ones.

FWIW, the best money I ever made waiting tables was at a buffet restaurant that rhymes with "Olden Doral". Yes, I got tipped about $2 -$5 per table, but I waited on about 8-10 tables at a time. I didn't walk in to a 6 1/2 hour shift for less than $100, with no tip-out.


Ya. Idiots like me tip way too much at buffets.

Also i tipped my bartenders and busboys fat and tried to keep my cooks happy. It really pays off when you fark up and the cook gives you the food of another server to cover your ass.

We tipped directly to the other staff.

Also what cryinoutloud said: no restaurant lets their staff get full time; they try to keep you hungry for more shifts to cover sick days and the like.

Still, waiting still beat the hell out of any other unskilled gig at the time.
 
2012-10-09 12:00:28 AM

cryinoutloud: I worked in a lot of restaurants. No one ever worked full-time. Yawn.


I was thinking the same thing. It's been a decade since I worked in a restaurant, but back then, none of the servers got insurance.

You might work full time hours, but you definitely didn't get classified as full time.
 
2012-10-09 12:00:44 AM

ox45tallboy: Hey, this works for Wal-Mart!

My sister is part time, but has worked less than 40 hours precisely three times since she got the job. But she doesn't get benefits, because it is a "part-time position". The screwy thing is when they make the employees show up at 10 PM on Friday nights, count them tardy if they are late, but do not allow them to clock in and begin work until they have waited the amount of time they have been asked to "work over" throughout the week. For instance, if lots of stuff needs to be done Tuesday morning, a manager might ask her to stay an hour late to help out. If she does, then she won't be allowed to clock in until an hour after her scheduled time on Friday. However, she is expected to "report in" at her scheduled time, and then she can go do whatever she wants (including leaving the area if she has a car, otherwise hanging out in the parking lot with all the unsavory characters you find in a Wal-Mart parking lot at 10:30 on Friday nights) until the hour is up. Can't have anyone getting overtime they were asked to work!

Since their army of lawyers has so far kept the labor-based lawsuits at bay (including reports of locking employees in the store), they're setting precedent for many other cases, and many other businesses to take on this same way of treating their employees. After all, when someone complains, you fire the offending manager, and then put someone else in their place that is forced to make the same unrealistic goals through whatever means necessary.


Doesn't surprise me at all. Some years ago, when doing an article on work conditions at WalMart, a journalist did the math and pointed out to their WalMart contact that giving every employee in the company a $1/hr raise would be great for morale, resulting in more productive workers, and would only cut their annual profits by 2%. The WalMart talking head said that 2% was too much of a "loss."
 
2012-10-09 12:01:00 AM

randomjsa: So basically what you're saying, as liberals is... "Okay Conservatives, you were right, and we were liars or fools to actually say that ObamaCare would save businesses so much money!"

At some point you're just going to have to admit that conservatives were right about everything on ObamaCare... because so far we've been 100% correct.


thanks for contributing your one and only post in this thread. you can leave now, run away and never come back to defend your comments or further explain your value system. it's ok, we understand. totally cool here man.
 
2012-10-09 12:01:59 AM

Mrtraveler01: Brick-House: [www.resistnwo.com image 400x296]

Because we know the status quo was sooo much better.

/rolls eyes


Um, yeah... You know they could have just passed a couple of small bills for pre-existing conditions, did a little tort reform and made the American people happy. But noooooooo, they had to fark it all up.
 
2012-10-09 12:02:09 AM

Weaver95: um...it's not a conspiracy. the corporate news folks simply manipulated the way the portrayed OWS to the nation. you saw plenty of heavily pierced and tattooed freaks with hippie hair and tie dyed shirts...but very few interviews that covered the basics of what OWS was doing. let alone the cops administering the occasional beat down on anyone who looked like they might be a protester. 'average america' never got to see what was being done in their name.


Yep. There were a number of times where reports spoke to people at Westlake and SCCC when the camps were still up, got lots of good, intelligent responses and then used whatever the dumbest, weirdest-looking person they could find said.

Compare that to the kid-glove treatment the Tea Party got. Hell, still gets!
 
2012-10-09 12:02:21 AM

Weaver95: cman: Weaver95: themindiswatching: NFA: Soon America is going to have their fill of the corporate greed and they're going to take to the streets for an American spring. The people will push the corporate reset button and these greedy f*cks will be looking for safe haven in a socialist nations around the globe.

Occupy was supposed to be that, but that fizzled out pretty quickly.

Occupy is *still* going on you know...and it took a mulit-million dollar media effort to try to destroy them.

I never knew you believed in conspiracy theories, Weaver.

Networks crave ratings, so they show the most bat shiat insane people (just like they did with the Tea Party) at OWS rallies. To the average American we care more about what Snooki named her kid, not a discussion of the tariff. Americans dont like that kind of news. They want to see squirrels on water boards, people getting kicked in the nuts, people who cant spell worth a shiat making a stupid protestor sign. They are a corporation in it to make money, and since no money is in real news, they have to give into what their views demand.

um...it's not a conspiracy. the corporate news folks simply manipulated the way the portrayed OWS to the nation. you saw plenty of heavily pierced and tattooed freaks with hippie hair and tie dyed shirts...but very few interviews that covered the basics of what OWS was doing. let alone the cops administering the occasional beat down on anyone who looked like they might be a protester. 'average america' never got to see what was being done in their name.


Saying that the media were in cahoots with each other to disintegrate OWS by portraying them in a bad light is the definition of a conspiracy.
 
2012-10-09 12:02:54 AM

randomjsa: So basically what you're saying, as liberals is... "Okay Conservatives, you were right, and we were liars or fools to actually say that ObamaCare would save businesses so much money!"
At some point you're just going to have to admit that conservatives were right about everything on ObamaCare... because so far we've been 100% correct.


You're forgetting the fact that it was Conservatives like Gingrich that actually proposed ObamaCare. Remember HillaryCare? Liberals wanted single payer. Liberals aren't happy about ObamaCare, but it's better than what we've got, and it makes it more likely that eventually we'll get single payer.
 
2012-10-09 12:03:17 AM

cman: Saying that the media were in cahoots with each other to disintegrate OWS by portraying them in a bad light is the definition of a conspiracy.


You're asserting that the conservative corporatist media is not conservatively and corporate-biased?
 
2012-10-09 12:03:28 AM

Brick-House: Mrtraveler01: Brick-House: [www.resistnwo.com image 400x296]

Because we know the status quo was sooo much better.

/rolls eyes

Um, yeah... You know they could have just passed a couple of small bills for pre-existing conditions, did a little tort reform and made the American people happy. But noooooooo, they had to fark it all up.


And you thought Obamacare was worthless...

LOL
 
2012-10-09 12:04:03 AM
Add me to the pile that thinks single-payer is a MUCH better system.
 
2012-10-09 12:05:26 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: Weaver95: um...it's not a conspiracy. the corporate news folks simply manipulated the way the portrayed OWS to the nation. you saw plenty of heavily pierced and tattooed freaks with hippie hair and tie dyed shirts...but very few interviews that covered the basics of what OWS was doing. let alone the cops administering the occasional beat down on anyone who looked like they might be a protester. 'average america' never got to see what was being done in their name.

Yep. There were a number of times where reports spoke to people at Westlake and SCCC when the camps were still up, got lots of good, intelligent responses and then used whatever the dumbest, weirdest-looking person they could find said.

Compare that to the kid-glove treatment the Tea Party got. Hell, still gets!


You see that because you want to see that. OWS and Tea Party both got thrashed in the media. Since OWS is your side, you want to fit whatever you can to make you feel like the other side has an unfair advantage. Guess what? The Tea Party thinks exactly the same way as you do. They think that OWS has gotten a free pass while the Tea Party has been hammered week after week in the news.

We see what we only want to see. We create our own reality. If you sat back and actually watched you would see that news networks care about showing morons. Hell, Drew Curtis wrote a damn book about it.
 
2012-10-09 12:05:45 AM
For every large company like Olive Garden who says that they can't afford healthcare for their workers, we should know how much their CEOs make. I just want know how really "poor" they are in that they can treat their workers so disposable.
 
2012-10-09 12:05:57 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: All the more reason to de-couple employers and health insurance.


What's funny is that I explain that one of the main goals of the PPACA is designed to break the employment/health insurance bond, and then they think I'm crazy.

But, if they take just one second to think about it, one measly second, they realize that it's the best thing you could ever do to the private insurance market.

And it is. And it will be. And every Republican governor who is stalling on their healthcare exchange is an absolute moron at best, because being able to buy health insurance in a way that's easy and affordable (like, you know, every other type of insurance), offers everybody significantly more economic freedom.
 
2012-10-09 12:06:36 AM

cman: A Dark Evil Omen: Weaver95: um...it's not a conspiracy. the corporate news folks simply manipulated the way the portrayed OWS to the nation. you saw plenty of heavily pierced and tattooed freaks with hippie hair and tie dyed shirts...but very few interviews that covered the basics of what OWS was doing. let alone the cops administering the occasional beat down on anyone who looked like they might be a protester. 'average america' never got to see what was being done in their name.

Yep. There were a number of times where reports spoke to people at Westlake and SCCC when the camps were still up, got lots of good, intelligent responses and then used whatever the dumbest, weirdest-looking person they could find said.

Compare that to the kid-glove treatment the Tea Party got. Hell, still gets!

You see that because you want to see that. OWS and Tea Party both got thrashed in the media. Since OWS is your side, you want to fit whatever you can to make you feel like the other side has an unfair advantage. Guess what? The Tea Party thinks exactly the same way as you do. They think that OWS has gotten a free pass while the Tea Party has been hammered week after week in the news.

We see what we only want to see. We create our own reality. If you sat back and actually watched you would see that news networks care about showing morons. Hell, Drew Curtis wrote a damn book about it.


mediamatters.org

Don't be a moron.
 
2012-10-09 12:07:00 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: cman: Saying that the media were in cahoots with each other to disintegrate OWS by portraying them in a bad light is the definition of a conspiracy.

You're asserting that the conservative corporatist media is not conservatively and corporate-biased?


I am saying that I believe that Rupert Murdock hates MSNBC and would do whatever it can to put them out of business. News networks go for ratings, nothing else.
 
2012-10-09 12:07:26 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: Weaver95: um...it's not a conspiracy. the corporate news folks simply manipulated the way the portrayed OWS to the nation. you saw plenty of heavily pierced and tattooed freaks with hippie hair and tie dyed shirts...but very few interviews that covered the basics of what OWS was doing. let alone the cops administering the occasional beat down on anyone who looked like they might be a protester. 'average america' never got to see what was being done in their name.

Yep. There were a number of times where reports spoke to people at Westlake and SCCC when the camps were still up, got lots of good, intelligent responses and then used whatever the dumbest, weirdest-looking person they could find said.

Compare that to the kid-glove treatment the Tea Party got. Hell, still gets!


Tea Partiers were generally older and had more net worth.
And they actually tried to change the system by getting people elected.

You don't get real attention by staging sit-ins anymore.
Our culture has absorbed that. That kind of rebellion is sold in stores. It's trite and people don't care about it.
 
2012-10-09 12:07:29 AM
And so the gradual degradation of American businesses begins.
 
2012-10-09 12:08:20 AM

A Dark Evil Omen: cman: A Dark Evil Omen: Weaver95: um...it's not a conspiracy. the corporate news folks simply manipulated the way the portrayed OWS to the nation. you saw plenty of heavily pierced and tattooed freaks with hippie hair and tie dyed shirts...but very few interviews that covered the basics of what OWS was doing. let alone the cops administering the occasional beat down on anyone who looked like they might be a protester. 'average america' never got to see what was being done in their name.

Yep. There were a number of times where reports spoke to people at Westlake and SCCC when the camps were still up, got lots of good, intelligent responses and then used whatever the dumbest, weirdest-looking person they could find said.

Compare that to the kid-glove treatment the Tea Party got. Hell, still gets!

You see that because you want to see that. OWS and Tea Party both got thrashed in the media. Since OWS is your side, you want to fit whatever you can to make you feel like the other side has an unfair advantage. Guess what? The Tea Party thinks exactly the same way as you do. They think that OWS has gotten a free pass while the Tea Party has been hammered week after week in the news.

We see what we only want to see. We create our own reality. If you sat back and actually watched you would see that news networks care about showing morons. Hell, Drew Curtis wrote a damn book about it.

[mediamatters.org image 400x300]

Don't be a moron.


That is Fox News going for ratings. They are targeting a specific base group. By appealing to their base they get the ratings that they want.
 
2012-10-09 12:08:40 AM
its almost as if business shouldn't provide health care, and we get medicare for all like the rest of the civilized world.
 
2012-10-09 12:09:07 AM
I tried working as a cashier at Olive Garden very briefly. 12 Hour shifts , unable to leave the cash booth unless relieved by a manager on duty...which almost never happened as they were "too busy" to allow me to piss , or take a meal brake.... I could occasionally bribe some one to bring me a farking bread stick, and attempted to keep blood sugar up eating the Andes mints. This was for minimum wage, at he time was $4.25 per hour. fark Olive Garden.
 
2012-10-09 12:09:42 AM

cman: That is Fox News going for ratings. They are targeting a specific base group. By appealing to their base they get the ratings that they want.


And then the other major outlets provided similar coverage in competition for ratings.
 
2012-10-09 12:10:33 AM

cman:
Saying that the media were in cahoots with each other to disintegrate OWS by portraying them in a bad light is the definition of a conspiracy.


oh I don't think it was 'organized'. I think the 'average' editor and/or producer at the local levels just decided that making OWS look freaky either suited their personal bias and/or just made better copy. the media higher up tho - THOSE folks have a vested interest in making OWS look bad, and the guys back in the corporate offices sure did their part to make sure that the 11 o'clock news either didn't show any coverage of OWS at all or made sure to manipulate the footage so that only the crazier looking scary people interviews got any air time.

every now and then a bit of the truth got through the corporate filters but most of the coverage was almost universally 'OWS is crazy! OWS is ineffective! OWS has no message! OWS are terrorists!' the unified message out of the corporate news networks was pretty consistent. you can draw your own conclusions as to just how that came to be...
 
2012-10-09 12:10:53 AM

Free_Chilly_Willy: And so the gradual degradation of American businesses begins.


It's the f*cking Olive Garden. Like it was the classiest joint to begin with.
 
2012-10-09 12:11:12 AM
I bet the guy who thaws out the breadsticks is pissed.
 
2012-10-09 12:11:19 AM

GhostFish: Tea Partiers were generally older and had more net worth.
And they actually tried to change the system by getting people elected.

You don't get real attention by staging sit-ins anymore.
Our culture has absorbed that. That kind of rebellion is sold in stores. It's trite and people don't care about it.


You don't change the system by getting people elected. Never in the whole history of this country has that been a thing that happened; change comes to Washington last, not first. Look at what the Tea Party "accomplished": Nothing. Literally, jack and shiat. They had one good run of quasi-victories and served only to act as a vote-getting apparatus for the Republican party. And now they're nothing.

We're still here. We're still working. And we'll keep at it. You can keep pretending that all we're doing is "sit-ins" if that's what gets you off.
 
2012-10-09 12:11:36 AM

cman: That is Fox News going for ratings. They are targeting a specific base group. By appealing to their base they get the ratings that they want.


Google Roger Ailes and tell me he's just going for ratings.
 
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