Mauch, a first term legislator, wrote the letters starting in 2000. He has called Lincoln a "fake neurotic Northern war criminal" and said the 16th president committed "premeditated murder" on the Constitution. He called Lincoln and Civil War generals "Wehrmacht leaders" -- the name for the armed forces in Nazi Germany. He also praised his ancestors for standing up to "Northern aggression" and said the Confederate flag is "a symbol of Christian liberty vs. the new world order."

*Facepalm*

Finally. They are coming out. We get to see more and more GOP for what they are.

If slavery were so God-awful, why didn't Jesus or Paul condemn it, why was it in the Constitution and why wasn't there a war before 1861?

These are the actual beliefs of an actual elected official.

If slavery were so God-awful, why didn't Jesus or Paul condemn it, why was it in the Constitution and why wasn't there a war before 1861?

holy. ever-living. fark.

People didn't realize he thought this way? I could tell by his mustache he thought that way.

onfederate flag is "a symbol of Christian liberty vs. the new world order."

No. It's a symbol of treason and failure.

FlashHarry: Mauch, a first term legislator, wrote the letters starting in 2000. He has called Lincoln a "fake neurotic Northern war criminal" and said the 16th president committed "premeditated murder" on the Constitution. He called Lincoln and Civil War generals "Wehrmacht leaders" -- the name for the armed forces in Nazi Germany. He also praised his ancestors for standing up to "Northern aggression" and said the Confederate flag is "a symbol of Christian liberty vs. the new world order."

*Facepalm*

Well, to be fair, look at the treatment the south received at the end of the war. The leaders of armed insurrection against the United States, publicly flogged, humiliated and executed. Their families raped and murdered for mere association with them. Their lands and titles stripped and confiscated.

Oh, that's right. Actually they were all given complete amnesty and they lived out the rest of their lives quietly.

At least, their lives were quiet after the United States turned its back and allowed them to go on a murderous campaign of revenge against liberated slaves.

I honestly don't even have any words for this.

Aarontology: onfederate flag is "a symbol of Christian liberty vs. the new world order."

No. It's a symbol of treason and failure.

Remember: this man was elected to represent his constituents

/be afraid

Jesus...

/If there is one thing that I can complement the left on, its that they keep a better hold on their extremists and manage to shut them up when they do stupid shiat

It's nice to see this country slipping into the dark ages. If anyone is accused of a crime are we going to start throwing them in the pool and if they float their guilty and if they sink they're innocent (and dead)

fusillade762: Anything other nuggets of GOP wisdom I'm forgetting?

-"Some things can not be explained by science. Take for example, rainbows. Rainbows are a mystery and you can not touch them, just like god. Despite this fact, they are still there even though there is no scientific explanation for them. So next time you find yourself doubting your faith, think of god as a rainbow. I know that this can be a difficult concept for some of you to grasp. It is just like air you can't see it but you know its there."

-"Wiccan should have their kids taken away. Anyone who isn't raising their children in a Christian home should have their children taken away, it is mental, emotional and spiritual abuse. Period. End of discussion. Case closed."

-"Climate Change is a religion and it's holy sacrament is Abortion."

-"if evolution was real humans, and animals alike would not need reproductive organs.'

Drum roll.......

-"We don't just think the Bible is true. It IS true because it's the Word of God. People who say "It's true because the Bible says it's true" is illogical are ignorant of the natures of both truth and the Bible and are themselves guilty of being illogical."

I know it sounds hyperbolic but I sometimes think we're headed for a new civil war. I don't know if it will be fought the same way as the first one, with guns and cannons, or if it will just be a political shift. But this country will not endure in its current form for much longer.
Say what you will about Obama, and I know there are real valid reasons on both the left and right to disagree with some of his policies, but the way he's governed as a compromising middle of the road centrist SHOULD have united the country behind him. Instead, the right has gone even further to the extreme. As a president who brought the country back from the brink of financial meltdown, he should be leading the lying, waffling candidate who represents everything that led us to that brink.
We'll never again see a candidate for president win with more than a 51% or 52% majority of the popular vote. We may well see a president win with a slight margin in the Electoral College while losing the popular vote.
This is a country deeply divided. We cannot survive with this division, much less with a party who worsens and celebrates that division.
And as long as I'm being hyperbolic, I don't think it's far fetched to say that slavery would rear its ugly head in the new Red States of America.

cman: Jesus...

/If there is one thing that I can complement the left on, its that they keep a better hold on their extremists and manage to shut them up when they do stupid shiat

Pretty much. There's a "Tea Party Caucus" that has something like 60 members of Congress, all Republicans. The Democrats, thank God, do not have a "Code Pink Caucus."

propasaurus: But this country will not endure in its current form for much longer.

Good thing that demographics are shifting and white people will be the minority, then.

Sgt Otter: cman: Jesus...

/If there is one thing that I can complement the left on, its that they keep a better hold on their extremists and manage to shut them up when they do stupid shiat

Pretty much. There's a "Tea Party Caucus" that has something like 60 members of Congress, all Republicans. The Democrats, thank God, do not have a "Code Pink Caucus."


We're mostly embarrassed by our extremists. And most of our extremists are being loud and annoying as a good afternoon out before they go do something else fun and interesting. Like mating rituals or video games.

I have a feeling that the extremists on the right tend to go home from being loud and annoying and stew and steam until they are going to explode.

So the radical lefies can usually be safely ignored until they get distracted by more entertaining recreational options. But the radical righties will start making bombs and nooses.

There's a big demographic split underlying those two extremes of course.

Nadie_AZ: propasaurus: But this country will not endure in its current form for much longer.

Good thing that demographics are shifting and white people will be the minority, then.

I'm told that if minorities are involved, there are ways of shutting those demographics down.

All I can hope is that when Civil War Part 2: Electric Boogaloo starts you guys ignore Canada and Mexico and leave us out of it.

Also, no nukes please.

He just wants to show the world the Simon Legree he knew. The Simon Legree he loved. The Simon Legree with a song in his heart.

Dead for Tax Reasons: Is you is or is you ain't my cconstituency

wejash: Sgt Otter: cman: Jesus...

/If there is one thing that I can complement the left on, its that they keep a better hold on their extremists and manage to shut them up when they do stupid shiat

Pretty much. There's a "Tea Party Caucus" that has something like 60 members of Congress, all Republicans. The Democrats, thank God, do not have a "Code Pink Caucus."


We're mostly embarrassed by our extremists. And most of our extremists are being loud and annoying as a good afternoon out before they go do something else fun and interesting. Like mating rituals or video games.

I have a feeling that the extremists on the right tend to go home from being loud and annoying and stew and steam until they are going to explode.


My brother is a huge, farking leftist hippie. The only thing that I saw him get really, genuinely angry over in the past twenty years was the War in Iraq, and the possibility of me going there gave him something of a personal connection to it.

My uncle (who has since mellowed out. I think there's only so much apologizing for Bush, Rumsfeld, and Sarah Palin an otherwise intelligent man can do before throwing in the towel) was on the opposite side of the spectrum. We were getting angry emails about Clinton (usually shiat he never did, or "might" do) the day he got dial-up AOL.

propasaurus: I know it sounds hyperbolic but I sometimes think we're headed for a new civil war. I don't know if it will be fought the same way as the first one, with guns and cannons, or if it will just be a political shift. But this country will not endure in its current form for much longer.
Say what you will about Obama, and I know there are real valid reasons on both the left and right to disagree with some of his policies, but the way he's governed as a compromising middle of the road centrist SHOULD have united the country behind him. Instead, the right has gone even further to the extreme. As a president who brought the country back from the brink of financial meltdown, he should be leading the lying, waffling candidate who represents everything that led us to that brink.
We'll never again see a candidate for president win with more than a 51% or 52% majority of the popular vote. We may well see a president win with a slight margin in the Electoral College while losing the popular vote.
This is a country deeply divided. We cannot survive with this division, much less with a party who worsens and celebrates that division.
And as long as I'm being hyperbolic, I don't think it's far fetched to say that slavery would rear its ugly head in the new Red States of America.

I hate to agree with you, but I think you're right.

People always say, in a disparaging way, that those of us on the "left" or the "blue states" are scared of the "right" and the "red states." And I am willing to say, absolutely, YES, we are.

As a woman, I am terrified of these people having power. They absolutely hate me. They think I should be a subservient baby machine when I have no desire to, and will never, have children. I never have. I'm only 37 and keep thinking about how they want to outlaw birth control and the morning after pill (even in the case of rape) and wonder if I should try to convince a doctor to do Essure on me just in case this crazy shiat passes.

I don't believe in their God, and even less so in their interpretation of Him. (But I give them the respect of using the capital letter because I think people deserve respect in their belief... unfortunately, they do not extend the same to me.)

I am struggling middle class. They have no regard for me. Not that I should be worried about salary since I should just be having babies every year or so until menopause (or never having sex, ever, even if I am raped.) How I pay for them is my problem, never mind the hospital bills since they have no desire in ensuring I have any sort of healthcare.

They want to take away the Social Security I have paid into for over 20 years, as well as Medicare and Medicaid, which I have also paid into. I am pretty sure they also want to get rid of unemployment. All of the safety nets I have paid into since I was a teenager, as well as the plans that are supposed to be there when I am elderly.

Never mind that I have no problem with gay marriage, gay adoption, gay people in general, amnesty for illegal immigrants who were brought here as children, or helping the less fortunate. Or expecting the very rich to pay their share. And I don't think corporations deserve to have "rights" the same way we individuals do.

And they think they're right.

How is ths solved WITHOUT some sort of civil war?

Sgt Otter: We were getting angry emails about Clinton (usually shiat he never did, or "might" do) the day he got dial-up AOL.

My father was digging in on me after the debates, and he told me to watch that Obama 2016 movie. My final response was "don't make me change my e-mail again, like I had to in 2008." I haven't heard anything since. He was cutting and pasting full on lies from crazy-ass right-wing Web sites. I don't get it -- my father is otherwise intelligent and was born and raised in New York, not some uber-religious tiny town. I don't get it.

serpent_sky: Sgt Otter: We were getting angry emails about Clinton (usually shiat he never did, or "might" do) the day he got dial-up AOL.

My father was digging in on me after the debates, and he told me to watch that Obama 2016 movie. My final response was "don't make me change my e-mail again, like I had to in 2008." I haven't heard anything since. He was cutting and pasting full on lies from crazy-ass right-wing Web sites. I don't get it -- my father is otherwise intelligent and was born and raised in New York, not some uber-religious tiny town. I don't get it.

It's human nature. We are biological machines programmed in a survivor mode. We are still paranoid creatures, and because of that, we twist facts to fit our distorted point of view. At the same time we have an ability of abstract thinking, meaning that we can invent our own fears to fit our preconceptions. Until we evolve from our ancestors traits of survival mode, we will always fall for bullshiat like this.

There was a time I was duped. I was a truther for a few years. When I finally processed what I was being told I realised that I bought into their paranoid bullshiat.

Dead for Tax Reasons: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Remember: this man was elected to represent his constituents

/be afraid

Is you is or is you ain't my cconstituency

Best movie EVAR.

I defend his right to express to the world that he's a freakin' moron.

Holy shiat, these people would legalize slavery again if given half a chance.

So, obviously, this guy doesn't need any minority votes in his district.

dletter: So, obviously, this guy doesn't need any minority votes in his district.

You assume there ARE any minorities in his district

/and if there were, they'd know their place

serpent_sky: I don't get it -- my father is otherwise intelligent and was born and raised in New York, not some uber-religious tiny town. I don't get it.

Might've been born that way.

Peering inside the brain with MRI scans, researchers at University College London found that self-described conservative students had a larger amygdala than liberals. The amygdala is an almond-shaped structure deep in the brain that is active during states of fear and anxiety. Liberals had more gray matter at least in the anterior cingulate cortex, a region of the brain that helps people cope with complexity.

In 2010, it was reported that Mauch was a member of the Sons of Confederates Veterans and the League of the South, which has been described as a "neo-Confederacy" group advocating for second southern secession.

OK, so not all of his ideas are bad.

GO!!! PLEASE! 

In fairness, without the Southern Strategy and the leaping off of the Dixiecrats, he might have been a Democrat...

Nixon really did the party a grave disservice in appealing to the Cracker vote...

MaudlinMutantMollusk: dletter: So, obviously, this guy doesn't need any minority votes in his district.

You assume there ARE any minorities in his district

/and if there were, they'd know their place

According to the wiki, his district is mostly Hot Springs County, which is

87.33% White, 10.26% Black or African American, 0.45% Native American, 0.22% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 0.44% from other races, and 1.26% from two or more races. 1.27% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

Numbers are from 2000 census

I'm thinking of a defense of slavery....

Still thinking....

Still thinking...

Still thinking...

Still thinking...

Got nothing...

Dude is a douchebag

Jesus didn't condemn early termination fees by wireless providers either.

But they be evil.

What the FARK IT WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!?

Seriously, they got elected. By actual 'Merkins.

Stoj: Jesus didn't condemn early termination fees by wireless providers either.

You're deluded into thinking that because certain gospels are arbitrarily considered apocryphal.

In the long-ignored Gospel of Chuck, the author mentioned many other people who were driven out of the temple with the moneychangers, including some with very specific professions, like those who sell siding door-to-door and those who charge a substantial interest penalty for early withdrawal. Pretty sure the early termination fees where in there as well.