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2012-10-08 03:49:12 PM
Maybe he was scared by the cookie monster when he was a kid.
 
2012-10-08 09:11:11 PM
I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.
 
2012-10-08 09:16:11 PM

davidphogan: I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.


Some people don't want us borrowing $400 million from China to pay for childhood education, when we would do much better off borrowing $4000000 million from China to pay for wars in the Middle East for the next two decades.
 
2012-10-08 09:28:03 PM
Big Bird on Saturday Night Live, in case anyone missed it.
 
2012-10-08 09:35:21 PM

bdub77: davidphogan: I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.

Some people don't want us borrowing $400 million from China to pay for childhood education, when we would do much better off borrowing $4000000 million from China to pay for wars in the Middle East for the next two decades.


Only in America is targeting $400 million being tough on the budget while ignoring the $1 trillion+ gorilla in the room (Defense). 

Tell me I'm wrong Conservatives.
 
2012-10-08 09:37:11 PM

bdub77: davidphogan: I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.

Some people don't want us borrowing $400 million from China to pay for childhood education, when we would do much better off borrowing $4000000 million from China to pay for wars in the Middle East for the next two decades.


You are aware that after all the rhetoric is off the table we're barely borrowing anything from China? Right?
 
2012-10-08 09:38:05 PM
Romney doesn't understand the need for ANY public programs.

Honestly, think of one public program that Romney has ever used. Does anybody really think he's ever been to even a public park?
 
2012-10-08 09:38:44 PM
Here is a good reason why we can't afford PBS.

We're farking broke. Cut all non essential spending until things get better. Anybody who's been in bankruptcy knows this. Things do get better.
 
2012-10-08 09:38:54 PM

bdub77: davidphogan: I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.

Some people don't want us borrowing $400 million from China to pay for childhood education, when we would do much better off borrowing $4000000 million from China to pay for wars in the Middle East for the next two decades.


Then let's tax dividends and capital gains at the individual rate. TA-DA!
 
2012-10-08 09:39:53 PM

davidphogan: bdub77: davidphogan: I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.

Some people don't want us borrowing $400 million from China to pay for childhood education, when we would do much better off borrowing $4000000 million from China to pay for wars in the Middle East for the next two decades.

You are aware that after all the rhetoric is off the table we're barely borrowing anything from China? Right?


hey.,. none of those fact things, that's what the pinkos use
 
2012-10-08 09:40:03 PM
The solution is obvious. Weaponize Sesame Street.
 
2012-10-08 09:40:20 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Here is a good reason why we can't afford PBS.

We're farking broke. Cut all non essential spending until things get better. Anybody who's been in bankruptcy knows this. Things do get better.


Educational programs for children aren't essential to you?
 
2012-10-08 09:40:26 PM
The usual liberal defense...

"Quick, run and hide behind children's programs that we don't actually give a damn about"

PBS can get its funding the same way as everyone else and if it can't, it can go off the air. Dora the Explorer is somehow wildly successful without being on PBS.

Perhaps you could quit pissing away tens of millions on recall elections in Wisconsin, then you'd have all the funding you need.
 
2012-10-08 09:41:19 PM
Romney's just not as impressed by a shower/toilet combo.
 
2012-10-08 09:42:07 PM

randomjsa: The usual liberal defense...

"Quick, run and hide behind children's programs that we don't actually give a damn about"

PBS can get its funding the same way as everyone else and if it can't, it can go off the air. Dora the Explorer is somehow wildly successful without being on PBS.

Perhaps you could quit pissing away tens of millions on recall elections in Wisconsin, then you'd have all the funding you need.


Thank God we have people with balls as big as yours to go after 0.012% of the budget.
 
2012-10-08 09:43:21 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Here is a good reason why we can't afford PBS.

We're farking broke. Cut all non essential spending until things get better. Anybody who's been in bankruptcy knows this. Things do get better.


Fine. Then you're 100% with us ZEROing out the DOD budget for the next ten years, yes? Yes?
 
2012-10-08 09:44:14 PM

KushanMadman: The solution is obvious. Weaponize Sesame Street.


I think you're really on to something.

If there is some way we could move the Corporation of Public Broadcasting into the Defense department. PBS will be protected forever to the point that the GOP will rush to defend it anytime anyone mentions cutting it.
 
2012-10-08 09:44:18 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Here is a good reason why we can't afford PBS.

We're farking broke. Cut all non essential spending until things get better. Anybody who's been in bankruptcy knows this. Things do get better.


I bet you would tell a business in trouble to stop training new employees, since they're "non-essential". After all, the business has gotten along for quite a while without training those new hires, right?
 
2012-10-08 09:45:36 PM

Mrtraveler01: KushanMadman: The solution is obvious. Weaponize Sesame Street.

I think you're really on to something.

If there is some way we could move the Corporation of Public Broadcasting into the Defense department. PBS will be protected forever to the point that the GOP will rush to defend it anytime anyone mentions cutting it.


The Count would be a big help with casualty figures. He does love to count
 
2012-10-08 09:45:53 PM
PBS can get its funding the same way as everyone else and if it can't, it can go off the air. Dora the Explorer is somehow wildly successful without being on PBS.

I know to you there probably isn't a difference, but Dora the Explorer is a cartoon, not an educational program.
 
2012-10-08 09:46:01 PM

davidphogan: bdub77: davidphogan: I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.

Some people don't want us borrowing $400 million from China to pay for childhood education, when we would do much better off borrowing $4000000 million from China to pay for wars in the Middle East for the next two decades.

You are aware that after all the rhetoric is off the table we're barely borrowing anything from China? Right?


I actually am. I am borrowing the failed rhetoric of Romney though, so it's OK to tell lies. Right?
 
2012-10-08 09:47:12 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Here is a good reason why we can't afford PBS.

We're farking broke. Cut all non essential spending until things get better. Anybody who's been in bankruptcy knows this. Things do get better.


Translation: I didn't get mine, fark your kids.
 
2012-10-08 09:47:16 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Here is a good reason why we can't afford PBS.

We're farking broke. Cut all non essential spending until things get better. Anybody who's been in bankruptcy knows this. Things do get better.


Yep, slash military spending,aid to Israel, subsidies for Big Oil and farming first ....cause we are broke.
 
2012-10-08 09:47:25 PM

randomjsa: PBS can get its funding the same way as everyone else and if it can't, it can go off the air.


You don't understand... anything, do you?
 
2012-10-08 09:47:51 PM
Keep the girls pregnant, keep the children uneducated, keep the culture war burning.

It's the Republican way.
 
2012-10-08 09:48:39 PM

KushanMadman: The solution is obvious. Weaponize Sesame Street.


You'd think Rmoney would love PBS. It is the Corporation for Public Broadcasting
 
2012-10-08 09:49:00 PM

moralpanic: Romney doesn't understand the need for ANY public programs.

Honestly, think of one public program that Romney has ever used. Does anybody really think he's ever been to even a public park?


A pubic park? Ann has one of those, and the shrubs are just the right height!
 
2012-10-08 09:49:10 PM

Mrtraveler01: I think you're really on to something.

If there is some way we could move the Corporation of Public Broadcasting into the Defense department. PBS will be protected forever to the point that the GOP will rush to defend it anytime anyone mentions cutting it.


Sure, just let them run non-stop recruiting ads. It might actually cost less than what they're currently spending on recruitment advertising right now!

The Army ad budget from 2006 through 2011 is estimated at $1.35 billion.

So just the army, over 6 years, is 1.35 billion, or 225 million / year. Doesn't include the other branches.

Hmmmm...
 
2012-10-08 09:49:31 PM

Mrtraveler01: bdub77: davidphogan: I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.

Some people don't want us borrowing $400 million from China to pay for childhood education, when we would do much better off borrowing $4000000 million from China to pay for wars in the Middle East for the next two decades.

Only in America is targeting $400 million being tough on the budget while ignoring the $1 trillion+ gorilla in the room (Defense). 

Tell me I'm wrong Conservatives.


Reagan proved that bloated defense budgets don't matter.
 
2012-10-08 09:50:59 PM

davidphogan: I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.


Correction; People that stupid are the reason why we need to limit or end this silly idea that everyone should have the right to vote. People need to actually learn a thing or two to drive, yet can remain as low informed ignorant as ever and vote. Limit voting to those willing to actually prove a capacity to be informed of the problems and issues of the day, and believe me we will never again here this bullshiat that cutting PBS, dismantling EPA, or even equally as laughable is the idea that cutting funding to Planned Parenthood will somehow produce positive results.
 
2012-10-08 09:51:06 PM
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does not approve of Romney
 
2012-10-08 09:51:10 PM
Why don't we just Bain this? Borrow money on another country's account, pay ourselves a generous fee, and then skip town and let the other country crumble?
 
2012-10-08 09:51:30 PM

ox45tallboy: Mrtraveler01: I think you're really on to something.

If there is some way we could move the Corporation of Public Broadcasting into the Defense department. PBS will be protected forever to the point that the GOP will rush to defend it anytime anyone mentions cutting it.

Sure, just let them run non-stop recruiting ads. It might actually cost less than what they're currently spending on recruitment advertising right now!

The Army ad budget from 2006 through 2011 is estimated at $1.35 billion.

So just the army, over 6 years, is 1.35 billion, or 225 million / year. Doesn't include the other branches.

Hmmmm...


Well, some of that might sponsor a NASCAR team. We can't mess that up.
 
2012-10-08 09:52:57 PM
I'm genuinely torn - possibly just ambivalent - about this despite my liberal street cred. On one hand, I'm furious that PBS/NPR are used as issues when cutting them would do nothing about our debt woes. They're simply convenient targets, especially after all the retarded claims that NPR is "liberal." Yet no mention is given to the gargantuan elephants in the room, notably the military.

On the other hand, what is the government's role in culture? Shouldn't that be the last place you want them funding, even if only partially? I don't believe that the government has done anything propaganda-like with PBS, NEA, et al. But why are we in that business in the first place? Believe it or not, America does have a private, thriving culture, as long as you turn off the television. I genuinely welcome anyone's thoughts on this matter.

It's a tough issue I've always struggled with. But again, nothing pisses me off like conservatives that target piddly budget amounts rather than even entertain the idea of cutting their pet projects. These are the same assholes who would gladly use the money saved from PBS funding for forced pre-abortion trans-vaginal exams if their constituents would allow it. And some of them have.
 
2012-10-08 09:53:46 PM

ssa5: Correction; People that stupid are the reason why we need to limit or end this silly idea that everyone should have the right to vote. People need to actually learn a thing or two to drive, yet can remain as low informed ignorant as ever and vote. Limit voting to those willing to actually prove a capacity to be informed of the problems and issues of the day, and believe me we will never again here this bullshiat that cutting PBS, dismantling EPA, or even equally as laughable is the idea that cutting funding to Planned Parenthood will somehow produce positive results.


Put the requirements for who votes in the hands of the politicians - great idea! That won't be used to suppress opposition voters at all! It's not like that's happening this very second with voter ID laws or anything.

Give the GOP a single year of majority control and you won't be allowed to vote without either answering a 10-question quiz about Larry the Cable Guy, or paying a $5000 fee.
 
2012-10-08 09:53:55 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Why don't we just Bain this? Borrow money on another country's account, pay ourselves a generous fee, and then skip town and let the other country crumble?


If someone had seen/read The Pelican Brief, they'd be a little more careful on the internet.
 
2012-10-08 09:54:07 PM

GodsTumor: Smeggy Smurf: Here is a good reason why we can't afford PBS.

We're farking broke. Cut all non essential spending until things get better. Anybody who's been in bankruptcy knows this. Things do get better.

Yep, slash military spending,aid to Israel, subsidies for Big Oil and farming first ....cause we are broke.


Slash military funding for all non warmaking efforts. They're killers not writers.
No foreign aid to anybody. Fark all of them. They can hate us for free.
No subsidies to anybody. Make a profit or go under.
The federal government was designed to keep Mr. I Hate America outside of our borders and to make sure the states behave themselves. Nothing more.
 
2012-10-08 09:55:41 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Here is a good reason why we can't afford PBS.

We're farking broke. Cut all non essential spending until things get better. Anybody who's been in bankruptcy knows this. Things do get better.


1$/year per person? We can easily afford to invest in PBS. But there are things we can no longer afford.

Corporation Name / Effective Tax Rate
Pepco Holdings -57.6%
General Electric -45.3%
Paccar -30.5%
PG&E Corp. -21.2%
Computer Sciences -18.3%
NiSource -16.4%
CenterPoint Energy -14.7%
Tenet Healthcare -11.6%
Atmos Energy -11.6%
Integrys Energy Group -11.3%
American Electric Power -9.2%
Con-way -9.1%
Ryder System -7.3%
Baxter International -7.1%
Wisconsin Energy -4.9%
Duke Energy -3.9%
DuPont -3.4%
Consolidated Edison -3.0%
Verizon Communications -2.9%
Interpublic Group -2.6%
CMS Energy -2.2%
NextEra Energy -2.2%
Navistar International -2.0%
Boeing -1.8%
Wells Fargo -1.4%
El Paso -1.0%
Mattel -0.9%
Honeywell International -0.7%
DTE Energy -0.7%
Corning -0.2%

TOTAL: On $160.341 billion in profits, they paid $ -10.742 billion in taxes, for an average effective tax rate of -6.7%.
 
2012-10-08 09:55:43 PM

moralpanic: PBS can get its funding the same way as everyone else and if it can't, it can go off the air. Dora the Explorer is somehow wildly successful without being on PBS.

I know to you there probably isn't a difference, but Dora the Explorer is a cartoon, not an educational program.


At least 1/4th of every Sesame Street episode is animated, and thus a "cartoon." Therefore it's not educational, right?

I guess people didn't learn shiat from Schoolhouse Rock shorts either.
 
2012-10-08 09:55:44 PM

davidphogan: bdub77: davidphogan: I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.

Some people don't want us borrowing $400 million from China to pay for childhood education, when we would do much better off borrowing $4000000 million from China to pay for wars in the Middle East for the next two decades.

You are aware that after all the rhetoric is off the table we're barely borrowing anything from China? Right?


Are you aware after all the rhetoric that PBS accounts for something like .012% of the budget anyway?
 
2012-10-08 09:55:52 PM

moralpanic: PBS can get its funding the same way as everyone else and if it can't, it can go off the air. Dora the Explorer is somehow wildly successful without being on PBS.

I know to you there probably isn't a difference, but Dora the Explorer is a cartoon, not an educational program.


Im pretty sure the whole point of funding PBS is to keep it from getting its funding the same as everyone else.. everyone else gets funding from advertising and are beholden to advertiser influence. Educational television shouldnt be at the beck and call of private advertisers, publicly funding PBS is important. I'm fine with paying a buck thirty five so that kids have something to watch thats not also trying to convince them to buy a bunch of junk toys or eat a bunch of junk food.
 
2012-10-08 09:56:35 PM
This actually makes sense. The Repubs are anti-education, anti-reality, and anti-science. Since PBS is an educational channel, they would want to shut it down. This will keep the kids from learning, and ensure a steady stream of GOP voters in the future.
 
2012-10-08 09:56:35 PM
Don't worry about funding PBS, 1400 churches just gave up their tax exempt status.
 
2012-10-08 09:57:02 PM

randomjsa: Dora the Explorer is somehow wildly successful without being on PBS.


Holy shiat, if I wasn't already persuaded that PBS is essential, I certainly am now.
 
2012-10-08 09:57:10 PM

Mrtraveler01: bdub77: davidphogan: I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.

Some people don't want us borrowing $400 million from China to pay for childhood education, when we would do much better off borrowing $4000000 million from China to pay for wars in the Middle East for the next two decades.

Only in America is targeting $400 million being tough on the budget while ignoring the $1 trillion+ gorilla in the room (Defense). 

Tell me I'm wrong Conservatives.


Theoretically PBS doesn't require their 400 million dollar subsidy to operate. And they could EASILY make up that difference in donations or other forms of local funding.

The defense budget is completely inexcusable. When you spend more on defense than the EU and your next biggest adversary COMBINED...that's not defense- it's para-farking-noia. Plus, it makes you wonder what the hell we're spending all that money on. It can't possibly be bombs, our armament hasn't fundamentally changed in this country since the mid-80's. It can't be aircraft (excluding the F-22 Moneypit Raptor), especially when we're flying 40+ year-old aircraft as part of the regular fleet (E-135, B-52, C-130, C-5)....Does any Farker have a breakdown of the US Defense budget in terms of what/ how we're spending our dollars?
 
2012-10-08 09:57:48 PM

bdub77: davidphogan: I know how stupid American voters are, but it still disgusts me that cutting PBS and the EPA are viewed by so many voters as disposible and wasteful, when these same assholes seem to feel cutting military spending will cause the USSR to invade.

People that stupid are why we need PBS. Hopefully PBS will keep their kids at just borderline retarded instead of wards of the state.

Some people don't want us borrowing $400 million from China to pay for childhood education, when we would do much better off borrowing $4000000 million from China to pay for wars in the Middle East for the next two decades.


Isn't $400 million the number for the entire CPB, of which PBS only gets a small part?
 
2012-10-08 09:57:49 PM

KushanMadman: The solution is obvious. Weaponize Sesame Street.


This post is in jest, but Sesame street (Public educational TV), is a weapon. A propaganda weapon that is infinitely more powerful than the equivalent cost in fighter jets and cruise missiles.

/So are school lunches.
// We can't defend our country if our kids can't read, or are malnourished.
 
2012-10-08 09:57:50 PM

Smeggy Smurf: GodsTumor: Smeggy Smurf: Here is a good reason why we can't afford PBS.

We're farking broke. Cut all non essential spending until things get better. Anybody who's been in bankruptcy knows this. Things do get better.

Yep, slash military spending,aid to Israel, subsidies for Big Oil and farming first ....cause we are broke.

Slash military funding for all non warmaking efforts. They're killers not writers.
No foreign aid to anybody. Fark all of them. They can hate us for free.
No subsidies to anybody. Make a profit or go under.
The federal government was designed to keep Mr. I Hate America outside of our borders and to make sure the states behave themselves. Nothing more.


derian.us
 
2012-10-08 09:58:03 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Here is a good reason why we can't afford PBS.

We're farking broke. Cut all non essential spending until things get better. Anybody who's been in bankruptcy knows this. Things do get better.


Usually "anybody who's ben in bankruptcy" knows that you cut the things that actually HELP your budget. Cutting .012% doesn't do shiat for your "bankruptcy" claim.
 
2012-10-08 09:58:14 PM
There's a case to be made for cutting back on government programs, including beloved ones like PBS. Death by a thousand paper cuts is a real thing, and if you have inefficiencies that are sucking up extra dollars, then that's money that could be spent elsewhere to better effect.

But the real elephant in the room is that Democrats want to stop funding soldiers and use that money for giving poor people healthcare. The military is a huge portion of the budget, and Dems would rather see soldiers hungry than lose Big Bird.

That's okay. We all have different visions of what America should be. And I believe that both sides truly have the country's best interest at heart. That's the beauty of our country.
 
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