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2012-10-08 07:50:37 PM  
I've had a sign on my door for years "No Soliciting" and for the most part door to door folks see it and keep on going. Recently I had some peckerwood who stopped by and when I answered the door, I could see he was one of those "I'm working my way through some school or something". He tells me he wasn't trying to sell me anything to which I cut him off and said, "So in other words you are here to give me something absolutely free of charge?" That pretty much ended the conversation and he left.
 
2012-10-08 07:50:53 PM  

valkore: dahmers love zombie: Yeah, I'll see your "right to be here" and raise you two Shepherds and a .357.

Is it just me, or has the economy bred a seriously aggressive bunch of saleshumans?

Eh, no. They've always been around, but have traditionally held jobs at companies that cater to business sales. I've worked in IT management for 15 years and I'm continually amazed at the desperate tactics employed by a good majority of the sales teams hawking everything from hardware to professional services. The higher the contract or sales orders, the crazier it gets. I've been solicited on the premise of "Buy Product X from me and enjoy guaranteed dinners at (insert fancy restaurant) every month as well as complimentary swag for your entire team, or don't and enjoy your name going on an informal black list that guarantees you the worst pricing from vendors in this industry for the foreseeable future, plus we'll keep calling you until you hand over your firstborn."

My guess is the group of non-performing salespeople from these places found lesser paying jobs at companies like Comcast, hate life, hate people in general, and are going to sell whatever products and services they have with a vengeance.


Wish I could highlight the important part, here, but Mobile Fark still kinda sucks for quoting.

Anyway, yeah, on swag and IT vendors... I haven't *needed* to buy a new polo shirt in probably five years; I've easily got two weeks' worth of vendor-logoed shirts...
 
2012-10-08 07:51:46 PM  

Mr. Lepage: D_Evans45: Mr. Lepage: I just can't imagine what it must be like to have to keep a shotgun by the front door.


They dont have to, they want to. There is a gun culture among many citizens, we dont all happen to see where we live on a daily basis. Im in California where gun nuts are rather rare compared to the rest of the country, but I know 2 people closely with more than just a shotty by the door. People with laser sights on their pistols on their end table, my other buddy also has at least 3 different kinds of guns stashed in the front room including the "boom stick" over-under sawed off in the couch cushion where he's always sitting.

Theyre both gung ho conservatives, they are both trained extremely well in unarmed combat as well, and they both most certainly dont live in ghetto areas wherein an ever-stashed gun might be expected, they live in suburban communities and are otherwise normal. Might be some correlation there. It isnt even "paranoid gun person" syndrome, its more of a redneck lifestyle choice theyve inherited from their sires, from what Ive gathered.

Well put, thanks.


I don't see why being "self defense" oriented is a class or "redneck culture" issue. I lived in Chicago for 10 years as a single female. Several of those years were in fairly bad neighborhoods and I know of at least four times that I evaded getting mugged (or probably worse in one case) because of some stealth maneuvering on my part. I am well trained in unarmed combat now as a personal choice as I never appreciated being a victim. I never cared for guns, but I tolerate my partner keeping them in my household and know how to safely use them. Just because a person doesn't implicitly trust that all humans have the best intentions, it doesn't make him/her low class. Fortunately, since I've lived away from Chicago I haven't really seen much crime. I still like to keep my skills sharp...but that's more for personal gratification than fear of home invasion.
 
2012-10-08 07:57:52 PM  

beakerxf: Actually, Qwest (now Century Link) offered DSL service in my area but the service never worked in my home. They offered to send technicians to the home for $75 an hour. Also, if it turned out to be an issue with old phone lines, they'd happily charge me for the materials.

Essentially, I got the feeling their DSL service was on its death bed and they were discouraging new customers from signing up. It was a very odd experience.


Well, it's still working, I'm using it right now. (And I'm sooo glad to have an alternative to Comcast..)
 
2012-10-08 07:57:54 PM  
As an Internet Tough Guy, I'd be glad to make some divots in my front lawn from the Comcast guys' heads.

Come on by and be assholes anytime, gentlemen. See you in court. Hopefully that trip to the hospital was worth your crappy $10/hour job.
 
2012-10-08 07:59:49 PM  

bim1154: I've had a sign on my door for years "No Soliciting" and for the most part door to door folks see it and keep on going. Recently I had some peckerwood who stopped by and when I answered the door, I could see he was one of those "I'm working my way through some school or something". He tells me he wasn't trying to sell me anything to which I cut him off and said, "So in other words you are here to give me something absolutely free of charge?" That pretty much ended the conversation and he left.


When I was in college, working and going to school, 21 years old I had 2 girls come to my apartment. They said 'We're selling magazines to raise money so we can go on spring break in Panama!!'.

Not for charity, they wanted me to fund their spring break. Every spring break I was in college I spent my time working full time so that I could save up some money to get me through until summer. I was like 'really? no. get a real job.'
 
2012-10-08 07:59:49 PM  
When dealing with Comcast folks, just use the adjective "Comcastic" as often as possible and as negatively as possible. They love that.

bim1154: "So in other words you are here to give me something absolutely free of charge?" That pretty much ended the conversation and he left.


Uhh... the undying love of our savior, the Lord, Je- *slam*
 
2012-10-08 08:04:38 PM  
People answer when other people knock on their door or ring the doorbell?

How odd.
 
2012-10-08 08:04:44 PM  
Damn, for the past five years I have wanted to get Comcast because the other cable company(Milenium/Broadstripe) is way to expensive, plus I live in a building that is supposedly historical and I can not put up a sat dish.

The city divided up their territories by zip code, so the people across the street can get Comcast and some friends three blocks away can get Comcast and I,m stuck with that other crappy company with to many levels of service.

I like to watch motorsports and so much is on Speed channel(now owned by FOX) and this stupid service has Speed bundled with FOX s college sports stations and you need expanded basic and a digital upgrade and yadda, yadda, yadda, just to get Speed and it costs over $100 per month(might be an HD upgrade also).

With Comcast the $33 basic package gets you Speed channel along with almost everything else except Starz/encore that come with digital upgrade.
 
2012-10-08 08:05:02 PM  

A Terrible Human: Cyclometh: /now these creepy guys selling meat?

I've had that happen once but the dude kept saying the freezer in the truck broke down and they needed to sell the meat quickly. The dude was polite but yeah I don't trust buying meat out the back of a truck with a broken freezer.


Wow! Happened to me too---said they had to sell from their truck becuz a big sale was cancelled. Just shut the door and he went away....
 
2012-10-08 08:07:37 PM  

elysive: udhq: Has anybody yet considered that maybe the reason so many people around the world hate Americans is because we're a ghoulish people who respond to the mild inconvenience of pushy sales people with gruesome murder fantasies?

I'm sorry, but I'm just not going to treat this thread like it's normal.

If you tell someone visiting your home to leave and not to come back, I think it is reasonable to bring out a gun (or some other weapon) as a precaution if they return to your house again. There's no need to answer the door...just call the police and wait. In the case of the article, it sounds like the homeowners told the guys to leave during the first visit and they refused to leave. You really think that it is unreasonable for the homeowner to start seeking protection at that very moment? I believe it is best to call the cops immediately, but everyone should have the capability to defend oneself (protecting your body and well being is more important than your property) in some way. For some people, protection means a guard dog. For others, it means owning a gun or some other kind of weapon...even pepper spray.

I don't see a point in flashing a weapon around to even the most aggressive seeming visitor in the event that it could escalate a situation, but I suppose some people think it would deter a criminal from trying to break in in the first place. YMMV.


Robbers (thieves/burglars/home invaders) are very VERY risk management oriented. They will seek soft targets. Presenting a firearm effectively removes you from their list.
 
2012-10-08 08:09:25 PM  
True Story: Comcast guy comes to my front door (which has a "No Solicitors" sign, BTW). I'm busy but the doorbell rarely rings so I go to the door. The guy wants to come in and talk about Comcast. I point to the sign and he says, "Well can I ask you two questions?" I say "No" and he starts asking away.

That's when I pulled my shirt back to expose the Glock 9mm holstered. He kinda waves and says "sorry to disturb" you and gets the hell out.

"No Solicitors" means if I don't already have business with you? Get the F*CK out.
 
2012-10-08 08:11:23 PM  

KrispyKritter: valkore: And WOW, more ITG "I keep a gun by the front door, let's see them negotiate with Smith and Wesson HURR HURR" comments that I thought possible in the first 50 posts. Nice job, Fark.

amazing how many gun toting pussies there are on fark, huh? too bad they do nothing about crime or scumbag politicians.


The pighaters wont go shoot cops either. Pussies.
 
2012-10-08 08:16:46 PM  

fusillade762: I knew the day would come when the Comcast militia roamed the streets with impunity.


Its posts like this that make me love Fark. I lol'd
 
2012-10-08 08:16:52 PM  

spidermilk: Elegy: CSB:

This is one of the reasons I own a bluetick. 100% of people want to flee for their lives after they hear my *extremely* loud and aggressive sounding dog bawling at the door. Seriously, it sounds like a cannon or a foghorn going off.

Two nights ago I found the pizza guy about off the front walk and about 15 ft into the yard after he knocked and the dog started barking. He apparently doesn't like dogs.

Never had a problem with solicitors or salesmen of any type, though. They never want to come in the house, for some reason.

/CSB

That is not why I got a German Shepherd but some people are terrified of him- even some close friends ask that I put him in another room when they come over. Salespeople will try to talk to me but they are just staring at him (and having a staring contest with a dog is a great way to make the dog bark even more). What they don't know is that if I did let him out he would just bark like crazy and then sniff and wander off. I would never encourage or train my dog to bite someone but people take one look at a big black barking dog and assume he is a killing machine.


Yeah, if an intruder got in my dog might lick them to death, but that would be the extent of their injuries.

He's the most patient, good natured dog I've ever seen, but when we're walking in the park and he starts barking at squirrels or some such (no lie) mothers grab their children and pick them up out of fear. I know for a fact I can hear him over a mile away when we're hunting on still nights.

/mr 410 sits in the umbrella stand as a backup if the dog doesn't deter
 
2012-10-08 08:17:04 PM  

Yogimus: elysive: udhq: Has anybody yet considered that maybe the reason so many people around the world hate Americans is because we're a ghoulish people who respond to the mild inconvenience of pushy sales people with gruesome murder fantasies?

I'm sorry, but I'm just not going to treat this thread like it's normal.

If you tell someone visiting your home to leave and not to come back, I think it is reasonable to bring out a gun (or some other weapon) as a precaution if they return to your house again. There's no need to answer the door...just call the police and wait. In the case of the article, it sounds like the homeowners told the guys to leave during the first visit and they refused to leave. You really think that it is unreasonable for the homeowner to start seeking protection at that very moment? I believe it is best to call the cops immediately, but everyone should have the capability to defend oneself (protecting your body and well being is more important than your property) in some way. For some people, protection means a guard dog. For others, it means owning a gun or some other kind of weapon...even pepper spray.

I don't see a point in flashing a weapon around to even the most aggressive seeming visitor in the event that it could escalate a situation, but I suppose some people think it would deter a criminal from trying to break in in the first place. YMMV.

Robbers (thieves/burglars/home invaders) are very VERY risk management oriented. They will seek soft targets. Presenting a firearm effectively removes you from their list.


When I lived in the city, at least twice I found that making eye contact with a potential thug, grabbing my belongings closer to my person and increasing my pace was almost sufficient to avoid getting robbed. It didn't always work. Running away was my method of escape the other times when I'm sure I probably wasn't that fast. I'm guessing that in most home invasion situations, being home and not inviting potential intruders in would be sufficient to remove you as a "mark". Additionally, firmly asking the people to leave and locking the door would help convey the message that you wont take any crap. Do the intruders want to risk a defiant person being armed or fighting back after putting in the effort of forcible entry?

I guess if you don't think you give a confident and commanding enough presence, flash your piece if that makes you feel better!
 
2012-10-08 08:18:24 PM  

just_another_asshole/jaa: ... friends three blocks away can get Comcast and I,m stuck with that other crappy company with to many levels of service..


If you are looking to get channels not cheaply available where you live, there is a workaround.
Just ask your friends to add-on one of the mini Comcast boxes (tuner, does not allow PPV) and to host a Slingbox for you. Should cost all of five bucks a month, or just buy them a six pack every so often.
 
2012-10-08 08:22:50 PM  

elysive:

Fortunately, since I've lived away from Chicago I haven't really seen much crime.

Sorry, I should have said I couldn't imagine living in Chicago.

 
2012-10-08 08:23:04 PM  
These guys sound more like home invaders looking for their next mark.
Either that or idiots looking to get fired.

/Sorry, I don't want whatever your selling
/Mr. 9mm don't want none neither.
 
2012-10-08 08:25:28 PM  

Elegy: spidermilk: Elegy: CSB:


"Yeah, if an intruder got in my dog might lick them to death, but that would be the extent of their injuries."


You need a better dog. Mine licks the skin off their hands and face, then beats them to death with her tail.

 
2012-10-08 08:29:44 PM  

elysive: Mr. Lepage: D_Evans45: ...

I don't see why being "self defense" oriented is a class or "redneck culture" issue. I lived in Chicago for 10 years as a single female. Several of those years were in fairly bad neighborhoods and I know of at least four times that I evaded getting mugged (or probably worse in one case) because of some stealth maneuvering on my part. I am well trained in unarmed combat now as a personal choice as I never appreciated being a victim. I never cared for guns, but I tolerate my partner keeping them in my household and know how to safely use them. Just because a person doesn't implicitly trust that all humans have the best intentions, it doesn't make him/her low class. Fortunately, since I've lived away from Chicago I haven't really seen much crime. I still like to keep my skills sharp...but that's more for personal gratification than fear of home invasion.



Well, gun culture amongst rednecks is pretty big, even if it isnt strictly a redneck thing.
 
2012-10-08 08:33:27 PM  
Step one: talk just long enough to find out what is being sold.
Step two: tell them you already have it.

Works every time. For you castle defenders: catch them continuing to harass and you've increased your ability to articulate they were a threat.
 
2012-10-08 08:35:32 PM  

ChicagoKev: just_another_asshole/jaa: ... friends three blocks away can get Comcast and I,m stuck with that other crappy company with to many levels of service..

If you are looking to get channels not cheaply available where you live, there is a workaround.
Just ask your friends to add-on one of the mini Comcast boxes (tuner, does not allow PPV) and to host a Slingbox for you. Should cost all of five bucks a month, or just buy them a six pack every so often.


Mini Comcast boxes? Sorry but I don't see how that would work, stretch cable for three blocks?

looking at Slingbox it appears to work on WiFi, I tried to get Comcast to deliver service over WiFi but the rep I was talking to said they were not able to do so, but he appeared to be considering the idea so maybe some day.
 
2012-10-08 08:35:54 PM  
Also I guess I should add to that post, I dont dislike gun toting rednecks, I have a stepdad and a close friend who do it... I certainly support their right to have guns stashed at the ready in multiple rooms, even if I find it a bit odd.
 
2012-10-08 08:37:25 PM  

D_Evans45: Also I guess I should add to that post, I dont dislike gun toting rednecks, I have a stepdad and a close friend who do it... I certainly support their right to have guns stashed at the ready in multiple rooms, even if I find it a bit odd.


People generally do, until they need it.
 
2012-10-08 08:39:43 PM  

Yogimus: D_Evans45: Also I guess I should add to that post, I dont dislike gun toting rednecks, I have a stepdad and a close friend who do it... I certainly support their right to have guns stashed at the ready in multiple rooms, even if I find it a bit odd.

People generally do, until they need it.



Not trying to be a smartass here. Have you ever had a home invasion/trespass situation you effectively diffused with your stash piece that you otherwise wouldnt have been able to diffuse?
 
2012-10-08 08:39:44 PM  

just_another_asshole/jaa: ChicagoKev: just_another_asshole/jaa: ... friends three blocks away can get Comcast and I,m stuck with that other crappy company with to many levels of service..

If you are looking to get channels not cheaply available where you live, there is a workaround.
Just ask your friends to add-on one of the mini Comcast boxes (tuner, does not allow PPV) and to host a Slingbox for you. Should cost all of five bucks a month, or just buy them a six pack every so often.

Mini Comcast boxes? Sorry but I don't see how that would work, stretch cable for three blocks?

looking at Slingbox it appears to work on WiFi, I tried to get Comcast to deliver service over WiFi but the rep I was talking to said they were not able to do so, but he appeared to be considering the idea so maybe some day.


Maybe I'm taking the bait...
Slingbox is a device you put in your house. It transcodes the tv signal into a webpage type deal. You have to setup your internet router to allow inbound traffic to the sling box, then you can watch your tv shows like watching stuff on youtube, but the resolution should be better.
 
2012-10-08 08:43:08 PM  

Ika7734:

Maybe I'm taking the bait...
Slingbox is a device you put in your house. It transcodes the tv signal into a webpage type deal. You have to setup your internet router to allow inbound traffic to the sling box, then you can watch your tv shows like watching stuff on youtube, but the resolution should be better.


some folks call it a slingbox. I call it a kaiserbox mmmmhmmm.
 
2012-10-08 08:44:27 PM  

elysive: I'm guessing that in most home invasion situations, being home and not inviting potential intruders in would be sufficient to remove you as a "mark". Additionally, firmly asking the people to leave and locking the door would help convey the message that you wont take any crap. Do the intruders want to risk a defiant person being armed or fighting back after putting in the effort of forcible entry?

I guess if you don't think you give a confident and commanding enough presence, flash your piece if that makes you feel better!


Those are good suggestions for preventing a home invasion; however, if they ignore that and force entry into the home, what then? Will you confident and commanding presence be enough if it wasn't enough to begin with?

It's not like an armed person should open the door, invite them in and then shoot them. If they force their way in, though, I see no reason why they shouldn't leave feet first. As you pointed out, you've conveyed the message they are unwanted. If they continue beyond that, it's apparent your wishes aren't their concern. At what point do you become concerned for your safety?
 
2012-10-08 08:45:27 PM  

D_Evans45: Yogimus: D_Evans45: Also I guess I should add to that post, I dont dislike gun toting rednecks, I have a stepdad and a close friend who do it... I certainly support their right to have guns stashed at the ready in multiple rooms, even if I find it a bit odd.

People generally do, until they need it.


Not trying to be a smartass here. Have you ever had a home invasion/trespass situation you effectively diffused with your stash piece that you otherwise wouldnt have been able to diffuse?


Been robbed twice, shot at on the street on my way home once. (it was a miss, a stupid kid doing a driveby) That's when I bought my 1st gun. I eventually got into military/law enforcement, and (NOT AN APPEAL TO AUTHORITY ARGUMENT) I began to realize that word of hard targets gets around in the criminal community. Have I diffused a situation by flashing my piece? No. Do I look forward to shooting a "thug"? Hell no.

I am not looking to Zimmerman someone. Just want to be able to enforce my will on my property.
 
2012-10-08 08:47:09 PM  

dahmers love zombie:

Is it just me, or has the economy bred a seriously aggressive bunch of saleshumans? I'm getting cold-called at home and on my cell, yelled at on the sidewalk, bothered while actually IN the store, etc. Oh, and Sam's Club, here's a newsflash: when you fill up all of the open space in your store with little stalls staffed by what sound like carnival barkers, and they're all hawking DirectTV or some sketchy vitamin drink, it really makes me want to never come in your store again.


They do this shiat at BJ's too right by the exit...always two shady "car salesmen" asking customers if they want a "Bath Fitter" bathtub covering crap...I can't believe people would even stop and bother, or buy anything this way. Free food samples are fine, but businesses allowing these companies to hawk products that have nothing to do with the store, it is just cheesy.

I rarely answer door at home unless I am expecting a package (especially this time of the year with all the voting junk going on). Now if only I could get the freeloaders who are too cheap to send out their snail-mail spam from sticking their pizza menus, computer repair, or housecleaning shiat under my mailbox flag (which apparently isn't illegal). Or the "mini-bag of rocks with a landscaper business card in it" thrown all over the driveway. This is an HOA townhome community, dumbasses. Someone mows all the lawns at once.
 
2012-10-08 08:49:40 PM  
FIOS for the win.
 
2012-10-08 08:50:37 PM  

just_another_asshole/jaa: ChicagoKev: just_another_asshole/jaa: ... friends three blocks away can get Comcast and I,m stuck with that other crappy company with to many levels of service..

If you are looking to get channels not cheaply available where you live, there is a workaround.
Just ask your friends to add-on one of the mini Comcast boxes (tuner, does not allow PPV) and to host a Slingbox for you. Should cost all of five bucks a month, or just buy them a six pack every so often.

Mini Comcast boxes? Sorry but I don't see how that would work, stretch cable for three blocks?

looking at Slingbox it appears to work on WiFi, I tried to get Comcast to deliver service over WiFi but the rep I was talking to said they were not able to do so, but he appeared to be considering the idea so maybe some day.


The small comcast box is to provide the tuner between the cable and the slingbox.

[Neighbor's cable -> comcast box -> slingbox] -----> INTERNET --> [you]
 
2012-10-08 08:51:03 PM  

Plant Rights Activist:

some folks call it a slingbox. I call it a kaiserbox mmmmhmmm.


www.hipstercrite.com

I reckon I find your comment a might bit funny mmmmhmmmm.
 
2012-10-08 08:52:45 PM  

Mr. Lepage: I just can't imagine what it must be like to have to keep a shotgun by the front door.


Really, that's a terrible place to keep it. Too far away in the case of a door kicker, he gets between you and your shotgun. By the end of the couch or next to your recliner is a better bet.

It would be nice if you lived in my neighborhood, the thugs would leave the rest of us alone for a while. At least until they picked you clean.
 
2012-10-08 08:56:20 PM  
They said they were contractors for Comcast

There's your problem right there.
 
2012-10-08 08:56:47 PM  
wtfcontent.com
One of the few benefits of living in Texas. Violent salespeople tend to Darwin themselves out of business here.
 
2012-10-08 08:57:26 PM  

iheartscotch: / a gun is a tool; like a screwdriver; they both have perfectly peaceful, legitimate uses. If used improperly; they can both kill people.


And when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
 
2012-10-08 08:58:09 PM  

ex-nuke: Mr. Lepage: I just can't imagine what it must be like to have to keep a shotgun by the front door.

Really, that's a terrible place to keep it. Too far away in the case of a door kicker, he gets between you and your shotgun. By the end of the couch or next to your recliner is a better bet.

It would be nice if you lived in my neighborhood, the thugs would leave the rest of us alone for a while. At least until they picked you clean.


I keep either my Springfield XDm or my 1911 either on me or within arm's reach at all times. The pistols are for fighting my way to my Mossberg that I probably should have put in a more accessible place.
 
2012-10-08 09:00:05 PM  

zenferret: iheartscotch: / a gun is a tool; like a screwdriver; they both have perfectly peaceful, legitimate uses. If used improperly; they can both kill people.

And when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.


And when you have a shotgun everything looks like a duck?

/You are so brave going on the internet all by yourself
 
2012-10-08 09:00:09 PM  

zenferret: iheartscotch: / a gun is a tool; like a screwdriver; they both have perfectly peaceful, legitimate uses. If used improperly; they can both kill people.

And when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.



When you have a big enough hammer, everything IS a nail.
 
2012-10-08 09:02:07 PM  

ex-nuke: Mr. Lepage: I just can't imagine what it must be like to have to keep a shotgun by the front door.

Really, that's a terrible place to keep it. Too far away in the case of a door kicker, he gets between you and your shotgun. By the end of the couch or next to your recliner is a better bet.

It would be nice if you lived in my neighborhood, the thugs would leave the rest of us alone for a while. At least until they picked you clean.


Have you considered moving?
 
2012-10-08 09:03:36 PM  

CthulhuCalling: ex-nuke: Mr. Lepage: I just can't imagine what it must be like to have to keep a shotgun by the front door.

I keep either my Springfield XDm or my 1911 either on me or within arm's reach at all times. The pistols are for fighting my way to my Mossberg that I probably should have put in a more accessible place.

Where do you live, Afghanistan?

 
2012-10-08 09:11:34 PM  

zenferret: iheartscotch: / a gun is a tool; like a screwdriver; they both have perfectly peaceful, legitimate uses. If used improperly; they can both kill people.

And when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.


Hey now; there isn't anything you can't fix with a hammer, crescent wrench and duct tape.

/ see? I can use sayings that don't apply to the conversation at hand too.
 
2012-10-08 09:12:51 PM  

udhq: Has anybody yet considered that maybe the reason so many people around the world hate Americans is because we're a ghoulish people who respond to the mild inconvenience of pushy sales people with gruesome murder fantasies?

I'm sorry, but I'm just not going to treat this thread like it's normal.


I'm going to throw my $.02 in here...

We keep a shotgun near the door, but it's not the "go to" when it comes to pushy salesmen. I have dogs. The sight of a 95 pound German Shepherd showing off his pearly whites usually causes temporary paralysis in the sales person. This gives our dumpy little Bassett Hound a chance to move in, drool on their pant legs, and in one marvelous instance, piddle on their shoes.

They never come back for some reason...
 
2012-10-08 09:14:11 PM  

Mr. Lepage: CthulhuCalling: ex-nuke: Mr. Lepage: I just can't imagine what it must be like to have to keep a shotgun by the front door.

I keep either my Springfield XDm or my 1911 either on me or within arm's reach at all times. The pistols are for fighting my way to my Mossberg that I probably should have put in a more accessible place.

Where do you live, Afghanistan?


My guess is America.
 
2012-10-08 09:16:56 PM  

spidermilk: bim1154: I've had a sign on my door for years "No Soliciting" and for the most part door to door folks see it and keep on going. Recently I had some peckerwood who stopped by and when I answered the door, I could see he was one of those "I'm working my way through some school or something". He tells me he wasn't trying to sell me anything to which I cut him off and said, "So in other words you are here to give me something absolutely free of charge?" That pretty much ended the conversation and he left.

When I was in college, working and going to school, 21 years old I had 2 girls come to my apartment. They said 'We're selling magazines to raise money so we can go on spring break in Panama!!'.

Not for charity, they wanted me to fund their spring break. Every spring break I was in college I spent my time working full time so that I could save up some money to get me through until summer. I was like 'really? no. get a real job.'


Had a kid come to my door collecting donations for his senior trip to Mexico
 
2012-10-08 09:17:28 PM  

valkore: And WOW, more ITG "I keep a gun by the front door, let's see them negotiate with Smith and Wesson HURR HURR" comments that I thought possible in the first 50 posts. Nice job, Fark.


Yeah, it was way more than I expected too. Any of these people actually shooting an unarmed person who is simply being obnoxious on their porch, in a city that allows door-to-door sales, would be totally boned by a jury. Oh, I know, someone will come out with how they have a front gate and a sign and are therefore justified, but come on.

If they push in and defy your insistence that they leave, then sure, just make sure to stay out of grabbing range, keep your weight balanced, aim for center of mass, and make sure nobody you care about is behind the target. And don't use bullshiat like rock salt or blanks, people who give such advice are idiots, as are the ones who insist on using illegal ammo.
 
2012-10-08 09:19:35 PM  

Yogimus: zenferret: iheartscotch: / a gun is a tool; like a screwdriver; they both have perfectly peaceful, legitimate uses. If used improperly; they can both kill people.

And when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

And when you have a shotgun everything looks like a duck?

/You are so brave going on the internet all by yourself


Only when the ducks don't look like geese!

/ why, thank you! But, I will soon have to take a basket to my grandmother; for, she is sick. Will you kindly escort me?

// god has a place for all of his animals; that place is next to the mashed potatoes.

/ had some delicious deer sausage for breakfast; my butcher puts in a mixture of seasonings and jalapenos.
 
2012-10-08 09:22:12 PM  

Smackledorfer: Step one: talk just long enough to find out what is being sold.
Step two: tell them you already have it.

Works every time. For you castle defenders: catch them continuing to harass and you've increased your ability to articulate they were a threat.


"Sorry. I'm already with company X. I get 50/25 internet, all channels, HD, On-Demand -- but no HBO or premiums. And I pay $22 a month for it. If you can beat that price, and guarantee it for 2 years, I'll gladly switch."

No, of course they can't beat it.

Yes, of course I'm lying through my teeth to them.
 
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