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2012-10-08 07:23:59 PM

2words1finger: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: downstairs: Kinda torn here.  He's obviously smart enough to know the risks, as that's what the friggin' movie is about... yet decided to show up to a public event and speak about said risks.  Said risks of trying not to out yourself.

What's interesting is that they apparently break out all stops to get this guy and the 45 Hispanic guys who don't speak a word of English lounging in front of any random Home Depot get a total pass from all LEOs.

That's because city, county, and state LEOs do not have the authority to enforce immigration policy, regardless of how much Arizona would like them to. In other words, it ain't their farking job to round up all the Mexis.

 

(Because this will be needed soon if not already)

weknowmemes.com
 
2012-10-08 07:27:54 PM

proteus_b: pottie: I don't think that this is a matter of intelligence, but rather one of economics. You see, the holidays are fast approaching and this guy has figured out how to get free transportation back home in time to celebrate with his family.

Actually his family has already been murdered in his shiathole of a home country.


Wow, looks like the holidays will be pretty grim at his house.
 
2012-10-08 07:29:35 PM
endingfromBlazingSaddles.jpg
 
2012-10-08 07:29:43 PM

Vance Uppercut: ZeroPly: Aarontology: If you're losing a job to a moron like this, you're your to motherf*cking stupid to be employed.

Pet peeve...

proper grammar is a pet peeve of you're's?


and the rotsky gets another one. welcome to fark.
 
2012-10-08 07:30:30 PM

you are a puppet: "neo-national socialist"? lol


Or neo-Nazi. See, "nazi" is shorthand for "national socialist." The formal name if uncle Adolph's merry band of sociopaths was the "National Socialist German Workers' Party." Link
 
2012-10-08 07:30:31 PM

jigger: 2words1finger: That's because city, county, and state LEOs do not have the authority to enforce immigration policy, regardless of how much Arizona would like them to. In other words, it ain't their farking job to round up all the Mexis.

What federal law prevents this? I don't know. I'm asking, because it isn't the constitution.


Federal laws aren't state laws. Similarly the federal gov can't give their agents peace officer status to enforce state law. Here in Michigan our governor does that (every term I believe is how they do it). Other states, like Texas, do not.

States have to pass their own laws or get some permission to function as agents of the federal gov to enforce the crimes that the federal gov recognizes.

Now, on that note: do you think it reasonable for state governments to be able to pass state laws regarding determining citizenship?

Broader point: making police determine citizenship discourages victims from calling them in those areas populated by illegals. Knpwing your victims can't call the police seems like it would result in an increase in crime, at least imo.
 
2012-10-08 07:30:41 PM

pottie: proteus_b: pottie: I don't think that this is a matter of intelligence, but rather one of economics. You see, the holidays are fast approaching and this guy has figured out how to get free transportation back home in time to celebrate with his family.

Actually his family has already been murdered in his shiathole of a home country.

Wow, looks like the holidays will be pretty grim at his house.


Yet "Hispanics" are so proud.
 
2012-10-08 07:30:51 PM

jigger: 2words1finger: That's because city, county, and state LEOs do not have the authority to enforce immigration policy, regardless of how much Arizona would like them to. In other words, it ain't their farking job to round up all the Mexis.

What federal law prevents this? I don't know. I'm asking, because it isn't the constitution.


Immigration policy is a civil matter, not a criminal one. It's outside the purview of state and local law enforcement. It's even a matter that the FBI and other Federal law enforcement agencies don't get involved in unless it is related to additional criminal activity.

Also, immigration is never discussed in the Constitution, so why bring it up?
 
2012-10-08 07:30:56 PM

Ponzholio: Albania.
Albania.
You border on the Adriatic.
Your land is mostly mountainous,
And your chief export is chrome.


Taiwan, Taiwan on the sea! The China Sea!
 
2012-10-08 07:33:44 PM

CygnusDarius: you are a puppet: "neo-national socialist"? lol

OC and pounds are both trolls, if not troll/sockpuppet. Believe me, I've had more meaningful conversations with a brick wall.


About that one-dimensional thinking of yours....
 
2012-10-08 07:34:32 PM

bhcompy: So this guy is a productive person and not overtly involved in any kind of shady shiat, so of course we're going to arrest him and deport him. Meanwhile, California prisons and jails have 25 to 50 percent illegal populations, but we keep them around going through the revolving door prison system because we need to make sure those union jobs at the prisons are protected from the overall falling crime rate the past 20 years. I love America


I highly doubt any union prison workers in california are members of has functional control over what ICE's authority and capability to deport prisoners is.

You are getting close to tinfoil hat area here.
 
2012-10-08 07:34:59 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn illegals are even taking our acting jobs now.


Perhaps they'll do a better job of it.
 
2012-10-08 07:35:03 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: CygnusDarius: you are a puppet: "neo-national socialist"? lol

OC and pounds are both trolls, if not troll/sockpuppet. Believe me, I've had more meaningful conversations with a brick wall.

About that one-dimensional thinking of yours....


Mirror, mirror...
 
2012-10-08 07:35:55 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: you are a puppet: "neo-national socialist"? lol

Or neo-Nazi. See, "nazi" is shorthand for "national socialist." The formal name if uncle Adolph's merry band of sociopaths was the "National Socialist German Workers' Party." Link


Which hated communists and socialists, even to the point of backstabbing the Reds.
 
2012-10-08 07:36:41 PM

give me doughnuts: jigger: 2words1finger: That's because city, county, and state LEOs do not have the authority to enforce immigration policy, regardless of how much Arizona would like them to. In other words, it ain't their farking job to round up all the Mexis.

What federal law prevents this? I don't know. I'm asking, because it isn't the constitution.

Immigration policy is a civil matter, not a criminal one. It's outside the purview of state and local law enforcement. It's even a matter that the FBI and other Federal law enforcement agencies don't get involved in unless it is related to additional criminal activity.

Also, immigration is never discussed in the Constitution, so why bring it up?


Being all the writers of the Constitution were foreign born, I imagine they didn't foresee any trouble with it.
 
2012-10-08 07:39:01 PM

2words1finger: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: downstairs: Kinda torn here.  He's obviously smart enough to know the risks, as that's what the friggin' movie is about... yet decided to show up to a public event and speak about said risks.  Said risks of trying not to out yourself.

What's interesting is that they apparently break out all stops to get this guy and the 45 Hispanic guys who don't speak a word of English lounging in front of any random Home Depot get a total pass from all LEOs.

That's because city, county, and state LEOs do not have the authority to enforce immigration policy, regardless of how much Arizona would like them to. In other words, it ain't their farking job to round up all the Mexis.


Correct. City, county, and state LEO's don't have the authority to enforce immigration policy but they do have the authority to enforce laws.

Law != Policy
 
2012-10-08 07:39:39 PM
OPEN BORDERS NOW!
 
2012-10-08 07:40:31 PM
24 minute film now a 29 minute film.
 
2012-10-08 07:41:40 PM
Ah, they myth of the "illegal" immigrant.
 
2012-10-08 07:41:58 PM

Billy Bathsalt: 24 minute film now a 29 minute film.


Where did the extra minutes go? A Serb stole them! Bwahaha, slavic humor!
 
2012-10-08 07:42:09 PM

jigger: 2words1finger: That's because city, county, and state LEOs do not have the authority to enforce immigration policy, regardless of how much Arizona would like them to. In other words, it ain't their farking job to round up all the Mexis.

What federal law prevents this? I don't know. I'm asking, because it isn't the constitution.


regulation of immigration has long been considered an inherent federal power, per the supreme court. under the prevailing view, the states have no role in immigration law but many states' rights advocates believe that a sharing of immigration regulation is a more proper interpretation...this view has not gotten much traction in the courts.
 
2012-10-08 07:44:20 PM

2words1finger: Touching story-made-into-a-short-film or not, if you want to immigrate to America, farking follow the rules and do it legally. Whatever crap that's going on in your home country of Crushinglyfarkingpooristan is not our problem (though in truth it may be our fault), so you don't get mercy points for "escaping" from a shiathole.


Exactly. Albania was a thriving country when it was socialist and has done nothing but turn to shiat since capitalism has ruined it. This guy is either a dummas or a genious. Did he not get the memo that we are also capitalist or is he coming here to help with our glorious transformation into a socialist mecca?
 
2012-10-08 07:44:26 PM

bhcompy: So this guy is a productive person and not overtly involved in any kind of shady shiat, so of course we're going to arrest him and deport him. Meanwhile, California prisons and jails have 25 to 50 percent illegal populations, but we keep them around going through the revolving door prison system because we need to make sure those union jobs at the prisons are protected from the overall falling crime rate the past 20 years. I love America


Well prisons are mostly run by private for-profit contract companies nowadays. They have to keep the profits up somehow. (and they are afraid of losing all of the jailed cannabis users in where the states don't feel like prosecuting people for cannabis any longer)

2words1finger: Touching story-made-into-a-short-film or not, if you want to immigrate to America, farking follow the rules and do it legally. Whatever crap that's going on in your home country of Crushinglyfarkingpooristan is not our problem (though in truth it may be our fault), so you don't get mercy points for "escaping" from a shiathole.


you meant emigrate
 
2012-10-08 07:45:59 PM

CygnusDarius: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: you are a puppet: "neo-national socialist"? lol

Or neo-Nazi. See, "nazi" is shorthand for "national socialist." The formal name if uncle Adolph's merry band of sociopaths was the "National Socialist German Workers' Party." Link

Which hated communists and socialists, even to the point of backstabbing the Reds.


(they also hated anarchists, moderates and liberals and even people who spoke Esperanto)

It's frustrating to see people confuse the Nazis with anything but fascism. They outlawed every means of thinking but their own. While this is typical of oligarchical statism (the "dictatorship of the proletariat"), communism has different motivations and goals - fascism always believes in the authoritative state of national identity. Communism's ultimate aim (though unsuccessful for a number of reasons) is to abolish the state completely.
 
2012-10-08 07:48:39 PM

fusillade762: Aarontology: If you're losing a job to a moron like this, you're to motherf*cking stupid to be employed.

There may be an opening at one of his last jobs.

In America, he struggled to survive and find work without a Social Security number, taking jobs as a go-go dancer at a gay bar in the East Village


We overlook illegal immigrants, but not GAY illegals. Take that shiat back where you came from.
 
2012-10-08 07:48:55 PM

richlip: Didn't Flight of the Conchords do this already?


Ahhh... yes. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-10-08 07:53:25 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: you are a puppet: "neo-national socialist"? lol

Or neo-Nazi. See, "nazi" is shorthand for "national socialist." The formal name if uncle Adolph's merry band of sociopaths was the "National Socialist German Workers' Party." Link


Democratic Peoples' Republic... of Korea. Always makes me smile.
 
2012-10-08 07:53:48 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Dude should get Obama's relatives' attorneys. They have this shuffle down.


We get it, he's black.

/the cleaners called, your hood is ready
 
2012-10-08 07:53:52 PM
We should execute him, as we will one day have to execute all illegals, and all unruly children. I am running for congress in Arkansas, and this is my platform, (as well as the platform of every other Republican on that ballet). But enough about me. Lets talk about this guy who sneaked into are country. Sneakers like him must be booted out. If youre country is so bad then maybe take a weekend vacation to Sandals, do NOT take a lifetime vacation to America. We have enough problems with unemployment without you clogging up the job market. The BLS at first said Obama was bad at job growth, but then flipflopped and said hes good but the truth is that they were right before, hes bad! And these guys taking are acting and modeling jobs is just making things worse. I could be a model. I, like all Republicans, am bald and "stocky", with a goatee, and I am STRAIGHT. Women constantly undress me with there eyes, down to my thong. I could easily model for Bass Pro Shops. A photo of me on a fishing boat with my sleeveless army shirt would probably pump up sales 100%. But this guy took my job so now I am a fake plumber instead. These slippery immigrants need to be made an example of. Its one thing just to sling back these guys to where they came from, but how about this idea....Holocaust anyone? I know it makes me sound like a neo-National Socialist, but trust me, I am NOT a socialist. I just think this is better then sending them through the court system where they can just plead asymule. Once there all dead then we will have a lot of available jobs and we can put the loafers to work instead of them getting stoned off mary jane and watching the Daily Show. So heres a few right wing tips to you immigrants. Get out. Shoo! Leave America now and I promise I will not pursue you. But if you stay, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.
 
2012-10-08 07:54:07 PM
no, it would be ironic if he was a legal immigrant, he didn't go see the movie, and his glasses broke when there was finally enough time
 
2012-10-08 07:54:31 PM

downstairs: Kinda torn here.  He's obviously smart enough to know the risks, as that's what the friggin' movie is about... yet decided to show up to a public event and speak about said risks.  Said risks of trying not to out yourself.


Makes you wonder why the didn't have an army of ICE agents at the massive illegal immigrant marches a few years back...
 
2012-10-08 07:54:33 PM
We don't need any more leftist pro-immigration films. We already have La misma luna,and it's all we need.
 
2012-10-08 07:56:26 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: Vance Uppercut: ZeroPly: Aarontology: If you're losing a job to a moron like this, you're your to motherf*cking stupid to be employed.

Pet peeve...

proper grammar is a pet peeve of you're's?

and the rotsky gets another one. welcome to fark.


He he. It's always nice to meet a fellow farker that remembers the "rotsky".
 
2012-10-08 07:56:48 PM

Benjimin_Dover: 2words1finger: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: downstairs: Kinda torn here.  He's obviously smart enough to know the risks, as that's what the friggin' movie is about... yet decided to show up to a public event and speak about said risks.  Said risks of trying not to out yourself.

What's interesting is that they apparently break out all stops to get this guy and the 45 Hispanic guys who don't speak a word of English lounging in front of any random Home Depot get a total pass from all LEOs.

That's because city, county, and state LEOs do not have the authority to enforce immigration policy, regardless of how much Arizona would like them to. In other words, it ain't their farking job to round up all the Mexis.

Correct. City, county, and state LEO's don't have the authority to enforce immigration policy but they do have the authority to enforce laws.

Law != Policy


The level of government passing a law is the only level of the government that can authorize who is allowed to enforce it.

The question shouldn't be whether the state can wrest the authority to enforce federal criminal and admistrative laws (they can't) bit whether or not a satate should be allowed to pass it's own immigration laws (I'd be against it) like they can their own versions of other criminal laws.
 
2012-10-08 07:56:53 PM
Brown illegals are the only one's that deserve a better life for themselves. amiright!
 
2012-10-08 07:57:36 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: you are a puppet: "neo-national socialist"? lol

Or neo-Nazi. See, "nazi" is shorthand for "national socialist." The formal name if uncle Adolph's merry band of sociopaths was the "National Socialist German Workers' Party." Link


Thanks vag. Shorthand for "vagina"
 
2012-10-08 07:58:29 PM

Horseraddish: CygnusDarius: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: you are a puppet: "neo-national socialist"? lol

Or neo-Nazi. See, "nazi" is shorthand for "national socialist." The formal name if uncle Adolph's merry band of sociopaths was the "National Socialist German Workers' Party." Link

Which hated communists and socialists, even to the point of backstabbing the Reds.

(they also hated anarchists, moderates and liberals and even people who spoke Esperanto)

It's frustrating to see people confuse the Nazis with anything but fascism. They outlawed every means of thinking but their own. While this is typical of oligarchical statism (the "dictatorship of the proletariat"), communism has different motivations and goals - fascism always believes in the authoritative state of national identity. Communism's ultimate aim (though unsuccessful for a number of reasons) is to abolish the state completely.


Usually because there is a complex part where the state has to become all-powerful in order to stomp out everything else first. IE, the Anakin Paradox.
 
2012-10-08 07:59:04 PM

mr lawson: OPEN BORDERS NOW!


The border is wide open, nobody is forcing you to stay here.
 
2012-10-08 08:00:57 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: you are a puppet: "neo-national socialist"? lol

Or neo-Nazi. See, "nazi" is shorthand for "national socialist." The formal name if uncle Adolph's merry band of sociopaths was the "National Socialist German Workers' Party." Link


Looks like someone needs to read "Mein Kampf".
 
2012-10-08 08:01:19 PM
Good.
 
2012-10-08 08:01:48 PM

Horseraddish: CygnusDarius: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: you are a puppet: "neo-national socialist"? lol

Or neo-Nazi. See, "nazi" is shorthand for "national socialist." The formal name if uncle Adolph's merry band of sociopaths was the "National Socialist German Workers' Party." Link

Which hated communists and socialists, even to the point of backstabbing the Reds.

(they also hated anarchists, moderates and liberals and even people who spoke Esperanto)

It's frustrating to see people confuse the Nazis with anything but fascism. They outlawed every means of thinking but their own. While this is typical of oligarchical statism (the "dictatorship of the proletariat"), communism has different motivations and goals - fascism always believes in the authoritative state of national identity. Communism's ultimate aim (though unsuccessful for a number of reasons) is to abolish the state completely.


But, nowadays they make a good scapegoat for every political discussion.
 
2012-10-08 08:03:15 PM
Albanians have worried me every since Edgar Winters scared me as a child.
 
2012-10-08 08:03:19 PM

Savage Belief: downstairs: Kinda torn here.  He's obviously smart enough to know the risks, as that's what the friggin' movie is about... yet decided to show up to a public event and speak about said risks.  Said risks of trying not to out yourself.

Makes you wonder why the didn't have an army of ICE agents at the massive illegal immigrant marches a few years back...


Probably because marching in a parade isn't against the law and mass seizures of people based solely on race or ethnicity would be a gross violation of the fourth amendment.

Furthermore, seizing USCs for having a political opinion at a rally would result in an assload of first amendment lawsuits as well.

I know this amazes people, but not only do illegal immigrants have 4th amendment protections but even if the did not, those trying to catch them don't know if people are citizens or aliens (legal or otherwise) just by a glance.
 
2012-10-08 08:11:12 PM

Klippoklondike: tenpoundsofcheese: Klippoklondike: Godscrack: Klippoklondike: Meanwhile Jose Vargas was arrested on a traffic violation

The article is about an Albanian illegal alien, Vern.

Save your Mexican hate for Storm Front.

What? Vargas isn't Mexican, he's Filipino and I am on his side

His side? You are pro people being in this country illegally?

He brings up a lot of good points on immigration policy. If you haven't you should check out some of his articles about it. It's not so cut and dry as brown people jumping a fence. I don't like people breaking the law either, but it's hard to like the way our immigration policy is right now. The only way to change it is to call it out and point out its flaws, which he is doing.


This. If you have ever known someone who was trying to legally immigrate then you would understand why people might come here illegally.

I know a girl who has lived her since high school and just graduated from college. Because she is French instead of brown and speaks perfect English she made it through several years of being an illegal immigrant while the naturalization process FINALLY was completed (it isn't like you can just sign up and be stamped as a citizen that day) and now she is a citizen. This is a chick who went to school, worked to pay for it, and found time to volunteer- if people like that want to be in our country we should let them.

I know two guys with engineering degrees who my company hired to work for them. It was nearly impossible for them to move here legally with the extreme restrictions we have in place to keep out 'illegals'- can't get a car, can't get a loan or any type of credit (can't buy a home), can't get a driver's license.

If someone wants to come live here and tries to do all the right things but doesn't have 5 years to wait and hope and pray they get chosen and approved and they come here illegally- it is against our laws but I don't think it is morally wrong. What is morally wrong is deporting people back to dangerous countries where they will live in poverty for the rest of their life. In my eyes, it is morally wrong to not let people come here.
 
2012-10-08 08:11:46 PM

Smackledorfer: Savage Belief: downstairs: Kinda torn here.  He's obviously smart enough to know the risks, as that's what the friggin' movie is about... yet decided to show up to a public event and speak about said risks.  Said risks of trying not to out yourself.

Makes you wonder why the didn't have an army of ICE agents at the massive illegal immigrant marches a few years back...

Probably because marching in a parade isn't against the law and mass seizures of people based solely on race or ethnicity would be a gross violation of the fourth amendment.

Furthermore, seizing USCs for having a political opinion at a rally would result in an assload of first amendment lawsuits as well.

I know this amazes people, but not only do illegal immigrants have 4th amendment protections but even if the did not, those trying to catch them don't know if people are citizens or aliens (legal or otherwise) just by a glance.


Considering the people marching practically advertised they were, in fact, illegal aliens, I'd call that a moot point.
 
2012-10-08 08:12:07 PM

davidphogan: I don't care where you're from if you hit me with your car.


You might care. Can illegals buy insurance?
 
2012-10-08 08:13:43 PM

Klippoklondike: Godscrack: Klippoklondike: Meanwhile Jose Vargas was arrested on a traffic violation

The article is about an Albanian illegal alien, Vern.

Save your Mexican hate for Storm Front.

What? Vargas isn't Mexican, he's Filipino and I am on his side


i837.photobucket.com

No hate like a liberal failing to race-bait with stereotypes hate
 
2012-10-08 08:15:02 PM

Klippoklondike: tenpoundsofcheese: Klippoklondike: Godscrack: Klippoklondike: Meanwhile Jose Vargas was arrested on a traffic violation

The article is about an Albanian illegal alien, Vern.

Save your Mexican hate for Storm Front.

What? Vargas isn't Mexican, he's Filipino and I am on his side

His side? You are pro people being in this country illegally?

He brings up a lot of good points on immigration policy. If you haven't you should check out some of his articles about it. It's not so cut and dry as brown people jumping a fence. I don't like people breaking the law either, but it's hard to like the way our immigration policy is right now. The only way to change it is to call it out and point out its flaws, which he is doing.


The policy where we admit more immigrants than the rest of the world combined, a million or so a year? The one where we take people just for "family reunification" and not because they have skills that would benefit the country or money to invest here? Just how much more generous do you want to be? Should we throw the doors open and take anybody at all, from anywhere, no matter how uneducated, sick, or impoverished? If you're not prepared to go that far, then you're going to continue to have a population of people who are here in violation of the law, and we're going to have the same problems dealing with them as we do now.
 
2012-10-08 08:15:14 PM

Savage Belief: Smackledorfer: Savage Belief: downstairs: Kinda torn here.  He's obviously smart enough to know the risks, as that's what the friggin' movie is about... yet decided to show up to a public event and speak about said risks.  Said risks of trying not to out yourself.

Makes you wonder why the didn't have an army of ICE agents at the massive illegal immigrant marches a few years back...

Probably because marching in a parade isn't against the law and mass seizures of people based solely on race or ethnicity would be a gross violation of the fourth amendment.

Furthermore, seizing USCs for having a political opinion at a rally would result in an assload of first amendment lawsuits as well.

I know this amazes people, but not only do illegal immigrants have 4th amendment protections but even if the did not, those trying to catch them don't know if people are citizens or aliens (legal or otherwise) just by a glance.

Considering the people marching practically advertised they were, in fact, illegal aliens, I'd call that a moot point.


Burdens of proof work much differently in your world than mine.
 
2012-10-08 08:16:28 PM
I hear American Detention Centers are awful places to be kept in. However, as one who works with immigrants Albanians have no future at home. They are hard working and after 11 years here without committing any crimes and supporting himself this man has earned his place in U.S.
 
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