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2012-10-08 08:18:12 PM  

opinionated Canadian: I hear American Detention Centers are awful places to be kept in. However, as one who works with immigrants Albanians have no future at home. They are hard working and after 11 years here without committing any crimes and supporting himself this man has earned his place in U.S.


Invite him to Canada :)
 
2012-10-08 08:19:16 PM  

spidermilk: In my eyes, it is morally wrong to not let people come here.


Would you impose any numeric limits or qualifications at all? I wonder how many rural Chinese or Indian peasants would love to show up on our doorstep and have us take them in.
 
2012-10-08 08:22:06 PM  

opinionated Canadian: I hear American Detention Centers are awful places to be kept in.


Compared to a 3rd world prison? It's Mary-F**king-Poppins-ville.
 
2012-10-08 08:24:06 PM  
It boggles the mind how much liberals want to bend over backwards to accommodate illegal immigrants, a 'victim' group that is virtually unlimited in size and numbers at the expense of fighting for the rights of American Indians and African Americans.
 
2012-10-08 08:24:57 PM  
Always good to see that SAM's back.
 
2012-10-08 08:27:27 PM  

Ponzholio: Albania.
Albania.
You border on the Adriatic.
Your land is mostly mountainous,
And your chief export is chrome.


And goat herding second cousin roomates for eighties sit coms.

And this.....www.perfectpeople.net
 
2012-10-08 08:34:18 PM  
What an odd film for something in the Hamptons.

"Look, it's one of those human-like things in daddy's factories. Is the party still at 8?"
 
2012-10-08 08:39:18 PM  

SquiggsIN: 2words1finger: Touching story-made-into-a-short-film or not, if you want to immigrate to America, farking follow the rules and do it legally. Whatever crap that's going on in your home country of Crushinglyfarkingpooristan is not our problem (though in truth it may be our fault), so you don't get mercy points for "escaping" from a shiathole.

you meant emigrate



Ack! Yeah, I borked that one. Truth be told, I was just looking for an excuse to use my favorite generic-third-world-country name. I mean, how great is "Crushinglyfarkingpooristan"?

/pretty farking great
//props to author Patrick E. McLean for coming up with it in his book "How To Succeed In Evil."
 
2012-10-08 08:41:17 PM  
Praq Rado's dreaming American may all be for nothing

I dream also, but having a dream does not mean the government will bend to my desires.
 
2012-10-08 08:43:33 PM  
Albania, Albania,
You border on the Adriatic,
You are mainly mountainous,
And your major export is crime
 
2012-10-08 08:44:45 PM  

Smackledorfer: Benjimin_Dover: 2words1finger: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: downstairs: Kinda torn here.  He's obviously smart enough to know the risks, as that's what the friggin' movie is about... yet decided to show up to a public event and speak about said risks.  Said risks of trying not to out yourself.

What's interesting is that they apparently break out all stops to get this guy and the 45 Hispanic guys who don't speak a word of English lounging in front of any random Home Depot get a total pass from all LEOs.

That's because city, county, and state LEOs do not have the authority to enforce immigration policy, regardless of how much Arizona would like them to. In other words, it ain't their farking job to round up all the Mexis.

Correct. City, county, and state LEO's don't have the authority to enforce immigration policy but they do have the authority to enforce laws.

Law != Policy

The level of government passing a law is the only level of the government that can authorize who is allowed to enforce it.

The question shouldn't be whether the state can wrest the authority to enforce federal criminal and admistrative laws (they can't) bit whether or not a satate should be allowed to pass it's own immigration laws (I'd be against it) like they can their own versions of other criminal laws.


Just so I understand your position, no LEO can enforce a law from a higher jurisdiction?
 
2012-10-08 08:47:13 PM  

medius: no, it would be ironic if he was a legal immigrant, he didn't go see the movie, and his glasses broke when there was finally enough time


twilight zone, nice!
 
2012-10-08 08:52:09 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn illegals are even taking our acting jobs now.


Because most Americans are too damn arrogant to work for the wages that they pay the illegals.
 
2012-10-08 08:53:07 PM  

ultraholland: actually he was locked up for his own good because Liam Neeson has had it out for every goddamned Albanian for the last couple years


By the time that he is done with that country, he will have significantly reduced human trafficking in that part of the world - if not completely eliminating it. They just happened to get the wrong person's daughter.
 
2012-10-08 08:53:28 PM  
More than a million people legally immigrate to the US every year, of which about 500,000 stay permanently.

I'm sick of hearing about how the country is so goddamn hostile to immigration, because it's just not true.
 
2012-10-08 08:54:09 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: Smackledorfer: Benjimin_Dover: 2words1finger: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: downstairs: Kinda torn here.  He's obviously smart enough to know the risks, as that's what the friggin' movie is about... yet decided to show up to a public event and speak about said risks.  Said risks of trying not to out yourself.

What's interesting is that they apparently break out all stops to get this guy and the 45 Hispanic guys who don't speak a word of English lounging in front of any random Home Depot get a total pass from all LEOs.

That's because city, county, and state LEOs do not have the authority to enforce immigration policy, regardless of how much Arizona would like them to. In other words, it ain't their farking job to round up all the Mexis.

Correct. City, county, and state LEO's don't have the authority to enforce immigration policy but they do have the authority to enforce laws.

Law != Policy

The level of government passing a law is the only level of the government that can authorize who is allowed to enforce it.

The question shouldn't be whether the state can wrest the authority to enforce federal criminal and admistrative laws (they can't) bit whether or not a satate should be allowed to pass it's own immigration laws (I'd be against it) like they can their own versions of other criminal laws.

Just so I understand your position, no LEO can enforce a law from a higher jurisdiction?


Read my earlier comment for clarification. I don't know if it applies to restrictions between a state and county pd (my guess would be at the least county pds all are granted the state authority of peace officer status), but there is a default separation between state laws and federal laws.

Neither the state nor the federal level can unilaterally take authority to enforce the other's laws.
 
2012-10-08 08:55:13 PM  

WelldeadLink: Praq Rado's dreaming American may all be for nothing

I dream also, but having a dream does not mean the government will bend to my desires.


You are obviously not dreaming hard enough.
 
2012-10-08 08:55:32 PM  
Brilliant PR move! Now I almost want to see it.

Entertainment budget : close to 0
 
2012-10-08 08:56:49 PM  

Mock26: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn illegals are even taking our acting jobs now.

Because most Americans are too damn arrogant to work for the wages that they pay the illegals.


Ya. Its arrogance and not staring down an entirely different cost of living for retirement and/or the off season in the case of seasonal workers.
 
2012-10-08 08:57:08 PM  
Not really ironic when you are stupid enough to advertise your situation by making a movie about it. Kind of a really expensive version of filming your crime and then posting it on Facebook.
 
2012-10-08 08:58:24 PM  

Mock26: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn illegals are even taking our acting jobs now.

Because most Americans are too damn arrogant to work for the wages that they pay the illegals.


Yeah, the American working class to just too farking arrogant to work for any less than 5.50 an hour. They should be ashamed. At that rate, you can almost afford to rent a one-bedroom apartment without going on the government dole!
 
2012-10-08 09:00:29 PM  

mr lawson: OPEN BORDERS NOW!


www.toonaripost.com

Too late.
 
2012-10-08 09:02:37 PM  
Stoopid alien.

They're trying to flood the country with Latinos, not Albanians.
 
2012-10-08 09:13:53 PM  
JA! Pendejo...
 
2012-10-08 09:18:19 PM  

ZeroPly: Aarontology: If you're losing a job to a moron like this, you're your to motherf*cking stupid to be employed.

Pet peeve...


and still wrong:

If you're losing a job to a moron like, you are too motherf*cking stupid to be employed

(insert to-too.jpg)
 
2012-10-08 09:21:26 PM  

a61sun: ZeroPly: Aarontology: If you're losing a job to a moron like this, you're your to motherf*cking stupid to be employed.

Pet peeve...

and still wrong:

If you're losing a job to a moron like, you are too motherf*cking stupid to be employed

(insert to-too.jpg)


Your post is humorous on two levels.
 
2012-10-08 09:27:39 PM  

Mock26: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn illegals are even taking our acting jobs now.

Because most Americansbusinesses are too damn arrogantgreedy to workpay for the wages that they pay the illegalslegal residents.

 

Yes, it's the legal workers fault they don't want to work for 12 cents/hour to pay for the "luxuries" of car and health insurance and retirement. It's the legal worker's fault they don't qualify for medicaid because they decided to put off having kids until they could afford them
 
2012-10-08 09:30:37 PM  

Ponzholio: Albania.
Albania.
You border on the Adriatic.
Your land is mostly mountainous,
And your chief export is chrome.


High five.
 
2012-10-08 09:33:12 PM  

Smackledorfer: Benjimin_Dover: Smackledorfer: Benjimin_Dover: 2words1finger: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: downstairs: Kinda torn here.  He's obviously smart enough to know the risks, as that's what the friggin' movie is about... yet decided to show up to a public event and speak about said risks.  Said risks of trying not to out yourself.

What's interesting is that they apparently break out all stops to get this guy and the 45 Hispanic guys who don't speak a word of English lounging in front of any random Home Depot get a total pass from all LEOs.

That's because city, county, and state LEOs do not have the authority to enforce immigration policy, regardless of how much Arizona would like them to. In other words, it ain't their farking job to round up all the Mexis.

Correct. City, county, and state LEO's don't have the authority to enforce immigration policy but they do have the authority to enforce laws.

Law != Policy

The level of government passing a law is the only level of the government that can authorize who is allowed to enforce it.

The question shouldn't be whether the state can wrest the authority to enforce federal criminal and admistrative laws (they can't) bit whether or not a satate should be allowed to pass it's own immigration laws (I'd be against it) like they can their own versions of other criminal laws.

Just so I understand your position, no LEO can enforce a law from a higher jurisdiction?

Read my earlier comment for clarification. I don't know if it applies to restrictions between a state and county pd (my guess would be at the least county pds all are granted the state authority of peace officer status), but there is a default separation between state laws and federal laws.

Neither the state nor the federal level can unilaterally take authority to enforce the other's laws.


Also, if the local police are going around doing the job of the feds, then who's going to do their jobs? Vigilantes?
 
2012-10-08 09:40:49 PM  

Need_MindBleach: Mock26: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn illegals are even taking our acting jobs now.

Because most Americans are too damn arrogant to work for the wages that they pay the illegals.

Yeah, the American working class to just too farking arrogant to work for any less than 5.50 an hour. They should be ashamed. At that rate, you can almost afford to rent a one-bedroom apartment without going on the government dole!


I, personally, will not make a film for less than $5 million.
 
2012-10-08 09:42:17 PM  

Guidette Frankentits: Mock26: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Damn illegals are even taking our acting jobs now.

Because most Americansbusinesses are too damn arrogantgreedy to workpay for the wages that they pay the illegalslegal residents. 

Yes, it's the legal workers fault they don't want to work for 12 cents/hour to pay for the "luxuries" of car and health insurance and retirement. It's the legal worker's fault they don't qualify for medicaid because they decided to put off having kids until they could afford them


It has nothing to do with employers. It is the studios who are too cheap to pay Americans to appear in their films.
 
2012-10-08 09:48:33 PM  

Godscrack: Klippoklondike: Meanwhile Jose Vargas was arrested on a traffic violation

The article is about an Albanian illegal alien, Vern.

Save your Mexican hate for Storm Front.


Lol. Way to stereotype, bigot.
 
2012-10-08 09:53:07 PM  

Need_MindBleach: I'm sick of hearing about how the country is so goddamn hostile to immigration, because it's just not true.


I've been an American citizen my entire life. When returning from an international business trip, the customs agent saw "problems" with my passport, but was willing to overlook those problems if I paid a $200 "repair fee". Since I didn't give in to the obvious bribe, I was denied entry, my passport was confiscated as a "forgery", and I was sent back to the country I had just returned from. I was bounced around between the various government departments for several days until I managed to contact the media in my home city. I was taken to the US embassy lan hour later, and told that I could either sit in a jail cell for a few weeks until the paperwork was sorted out, or I could sign a stack of papers barring me from speaking to the media and be put on a flight home within the hour...

I'm sick of hearing about how the country is so goddamn welcoming, because it's just not true.
 
2012-10-08 09:53:39 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: Correct. City, county, and state LEO's don't have the authority to enforce immigration policy but they do have the authority to enforce laws.


There's a narrow exception.

Article I Section 10 gives to the states the right to resist an invasion in the face of a derelict federal government.

It's an extreme option, but if a state declared that illegal immigrants represented an invading army, they could legally declare martial law and simply shoot them.
 
2012-10-08 09:58:39 PM  

Ponzholio: Albania.
Albania.
You border on the Adriatic.
Your land is mostly mountainous,
And your chief export is chrome crime.


fixed
 
2012-10-08 09:58:52 PM  

the ha ha guy: Need_MindBleach: I'm sick of hearing about how the country is so goddamn hostile to immigration, because it's just not true.

I've been an American citizen my entire life. When returning from an international business trip, the customs agent saw "problems" with my passport, but was willing to overlook those problems if I paid a $200 "repair fee". Since I didn't give in to the obvious bribe, I was denied entry, my passport was confiscated as a "forgery", and I was sent back to the country I had just returned from. I was bounced around between the various government departments for several days until I managed to contact the media in my home city. I was taken to the US embassy lan hour later, and told that I could either sit in a jail cell for a few weeks until the paperwork was sorted out, or I could sign a stack of papers barring me from speaking to the media and be put on a flight home within the hour...

I'm sick of hearing about how the country is so goddamn welcoming, because it's just not true.


Ha ha, guy.
 
2012-10-08 10:01:02 PM  

Need_MindBleach: I'm sick of hearing about how the country is so goddamn hostile to immigration, because it's just not true.


Yep, it's one of the many open borders arguments that make no sense, and is actually the opposite of the truth. The U.S. allows far more legal immigration than any other nation on the planet.
 
2012-10-08 10:03:03 PM  
That's how they caught Charlie Sheen, er, John Dillinger.

You're so vain, you probably think this movie is about you.
 
2012-10-08 10:04:04 PM  

spidermilk: In my eyes, it is morally wrong to not let people come here.


In my eyes, its morally wrong to not try to help fix up your home country. Its morally wrong to abandon your friends and family. If you are both physically and mentally strong and are so dedicated to trying to set up a better life somewhere else, perhaps that effort would have been better spent fixing the root issue in the first place.
 
2012-10-08 10:05:23 PM  

SquiggsIN: Well prisons are mostly run by private for-profit contract companies nowadays. They have to keep the profits up somehow. (and they are afraid of losing all of the jailed cannabis users in where the states don't feel like prosecuting people for cannabis any longer)


They are all public in California. Prison spending outstrips education spending.

Smackledorfer: bhcompy: So this guy is a productive person and not overtly involved in any kind of shady shiat, so of course we're going to arrest him and deport him. Meanwhile, California prisons and jails have 25 to 50 percent illegal populations, but we keep them around going through the revolving door prison system because we need to make sure those union jobs at the prisons are protected from the overall falling crime rate the past 20 years. I love America

I highly doubt any union prison workers in california are members of has functional control over what ICE's authority and capability to deport prisoners is.

You are getting close to tinfoil hat area here.


Perhaps, but it's ridiculous that they sit in our prisons for years while this guy did nothing nearly as bad to warrant the attention of the feds
 
2012-10-08 10:06:02 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: His side? You are pro people being in this country illegally?


No, that's your side. I want it to be legal for him to be here.

Barring that, I'm fine with him being here otherwise. (Though it's kind of dumb to draw this much attention to yourself while doing it.)
 
BHK
2012-10-08 10:09:38 PM  
So a bunch of tax-fattened, overpaid pigs picked up a hardworking immigrant because he doesn't have the proper permission slips, and conservatives, who claim to be for small government, cheer them on.
 
2012-10-08 10:11:41 PM  

LemSkroob: spidermilk: In my eyes, it is morally wrong to not let people come here.

In my eyes, its morally wrong to not try to help fix up your home country. Its morally wrong to abandon your friends and family. If you are both physically and mentally strong and are so dedicated to trying to set up a better life somewhere else, perhaps that effort would have been better spent fixing the root issue in the first place.


The money that foreign workers send home to their family is called remittances. It amounts to tens of billions of dollars a year. It amounts to more than all the official aid given by rich nations by poor nations. The only source of money that is greater for poor nations is foreign direct investment (FDI).

It's a shame when poor nations permanently lose skilled workers and professionals such as engineers and doctors, because they desperately need those, but remittances are a massive source of hard currency for poor countries and the skills and ideas that the workers acquire abroad and then bring home may be worth more than their wages. Especially if those ideas include things like democracy, human rights, worker welfare and rights, etc.

It is mostly a win-win situation that out to be encouraged by making it cheaper and easier for remittances to be sent to poor countries without rich bankers taking 5% or more off the top.
 
2012-10-08 10:13:35 PM  
This demonstrates the value of not being seen.

/ Mrs Smegma, do të qëndrojë lart, ju lutem?
 
2012-10-08 10:18:35 PM  

bhcompy: SquiggsIN: Well prisons are mostly run by private for-profit contract companies nowadays. They have to keep the profits up somehow. (and they are afraid of losing all of the jailed cannabis users in where the states don't feel like prosecuting people for cannabis any longer)

They are all public in California. Prison spending outstrips education spending.

Smackledorfer: bhcompy: So this guy is a productive person and not overtly involved in any kind of shady shiat, so of course we're going to arrest him and deport him. Meanwhile, California prisons and jails have 25 to 50 percent illegal populations, but we keep them around going through the revolving door prison system because we need to make sure those union jobs at the prisons are protected from the overall falling crime rate the past 20 years. I love America

I highly doubt any union prison workers in california are members of has functional control over what ICE's authority and capability to deport prisoners is.

You are getting close to tinfoil hat area here.

Perhaps, but it's ridiculous that they sit in our prisons for years while this guy did nothing nearly as bad to warrant the attention of the feds


Now that I agree with.
Though I do agree with the policy of slapping a detainer on them and letting them rot the rest of their sentence. Bonus if they are re-entry after a prior deport the criminal penalty is higher for felonious aliens.
 
2012-10-08 10:22:53 PM  
So, if he was having problems in his home country and made it here, why didn't he ask for asylum? If he did ask for asylum, was it denied? Why was it denied? Was there no credible fear found? During his removal hearing, did he show up? If not, why? Did he have an attorney?
 
2012-10-08 10:27:36 PM  

BHK: So a bunch of tax-fattened, overpaid pigs picked up a hardworking immigrant because he doesn't have the proper permission slips, and conservatives, who claim to be for small government, cheer them on.


Or some underpaid union workers picked up a celebrity fashion model and movie star going to a movie premier, if you want to leave the spin out.
 
2012-10-08 10:30:09 PM  

EmmaLou: So, if he was having problems in his home country and made it here, why didn't he ask for asylum? If he did ask for asylum, was it denied? Why was it denied? Was there no credible fear found? During his removal hearing, did he show up? If not, why? Did he have an attorney?


Credible fear mostly only applies if the government of a foreign country is going to torture, persecution, etc.

Otherwise all of Mexico would be granted asylum from the cartels.
 
2012-10-08 10:35:30 PM  
I should have really finished that thought.

He would have to show not only that he had a good reason to flee, bit that he'd be met with that response upon his return.

Not saying he couldn't qualify, just that it's pretty hard.
 
2012-10-08 10:45:02 PM  

Soymilk: What's interesting is that they apparently break out all stops to get this guy and the 45 Hispanic guys who don't speak a word of English lounging in front of any random Home Depot get a total pass from all LEOs.

That's because city, county, and state LEOs do not have the authority to enforce immigration policy, regardless of how much Arizona would like them to. In other words, it ain't their farking job to round up all the Mexis.

Correct. City, county, and state LEO's don't have the authority to enforce immigration policy but they do have the authority to enforce laws.

Law != Policy

The level of government passing a law is the only level of the government that can authorize who is allowed to enforce it.

The question shouldn't be whether the state can wrest the authority to enforce federal criminal and admistrative laws (they can't) bit whether or not a satate should be allowed to pass it's own immigration laws (I'd be against it) like they can their own versions of other criminal laws.

Just so I understand your position, no LEO can enforce a law from a higher jurisdiction?

Read my earlier comment for clarification. I don't know if it applies to restrictions between a state and county pd (my guess would be at the least county pds all are granted the state authority of peace officer status), but there is a default separation between state laws and federal laws.

Neither the state nor the federal level can unilaterally take authority to enforce the other's laws.

Also, if the local police are going around doing the job of the feds, then who's going to do their jobs? Vigilantes?


media.dcentertainment.com

You were saying?
 
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