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(Politico)   Boehner says no deficit deal between the election and January, doesn't want "a lot of retiring and defeated members voting on big bills". In other news, seniors don't need to attend class because they'll leave in June, so what's the point, right?   (politico.com) divider line 106
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2012-10-08 01:14:22 PM
Boehner's saying that the only thing he'll bring to the floor is some piecemeal, kick-the-can BS deal that doesn't really fix anything, which is the exact same position he's had the entire time.
 
2012-10-08 01:15:08 PM

Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker posting on fark and earning my money.




FTFY
 
2012-10-08 01:16:12 PM
Boehner says no

mine does not
 
2012-10-08 01:16:35 PM

MyRandomName: Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.

So you are completely ignorant to the fact Reid said as much earlier this year when he stated he didn't need to pass a swayed budget? Please tell me again how it is republicans and nit liberals passing on their obligations. The house has passed multiple bills and budgets that Reid refuses to even send to committee. Maybe you should stop throwing rocks in that house of yours.


I'm sure you can give us multiple examples of these bills, right?
 
2012-10-08 01:18:31 PM

MyRandomName: Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.

So you are completely ignorant to the fact Reid said as much earlier this year when he stated he didn't need to pass a swayed budget? Please tell me again how it is republicans and nit liberals passing on their obligations. The house has passed multiple bills and budgets that Reid refuses to even send to committee. Maybe you should stop throwing rocks in that house of yours.


Could it be reid is responding to philibusters?

/not saying it is right...
 
2012-10-08 01:19:05 PM

MyRandomName: Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.

So you are completely ignorant to the fact Reid said as much earlier this year when he stated he didn't need to pass a swayed budget? Please tell me again how it is republicans and nit liberals passing on their obligations. The house has passed multiple bills and budgets that Reid refuses to even send to committee. Maybe you should stop throwing rocks in that house of yours.


Wow. So somehow Reid earlier in the year realizing Republicans were just going to stonewall is magically forcing Bohner to shut down congress when people actually have said they would get things done.

I like how it's Democrats who magically for Republicans to act like idiots, they somehow have no control over their own actions.
 
2012-10-08 01:21:18 PM
Greatest Daily Show on-the-spot interview question ever:

"What are you looking forward to not getting done in the next congressional term?"
 
2012-10-08 01:22:08 PM

Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.


I'm thinking of running for office just so I can sit around and biatch while drawing a six-figure salary and blaming my lack of working on the opposition.
 
2012-10-08 01:23:00 PM
Does this also imply that old people don't need to vote? Cuz I'm down with that.
 
2012-10-08 01:23:48 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: We WANT defeated congresscritters to vote on bills, because they will be immune to lobbyist opinion. Perhaps this is what Boner fears.


Ha!
 
2012-10-08 01:24:11 PM
Orange tits on a bull == Boehner
 
2012-10-08 01:24:15 PM

Tigger: The only way Boehner can repair his legacy at this stage would be a highly apologetic suicide note.


I know I shouldn't have LOL'd at this, but I did. Hard.
 
2012-10-08 01:27:42 PM
doesn't want "a lot of retiring and defeated members voting on big bills

In the unlikely event that the Democrats retake the House, I'm guessing he'd change his tune in a heartbeat.
 
2012-10-08 01:29:02 PM
You're doing a hell of a job, Boehner. Keep up the good work.

Idiot.
 
2012-10-08 01:29:04 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: This is the ONLY time we can actually expect them to vote with their conscience.


Really? I would think it would be time to take the money and run. If all they did was pander the entire time they would have gotten reelected.
 
2012-10-08 01:29:28 PM
But did he cry when he said it? Because I don't believe it unless he cried.
 
2012-10-08 01:32:02 PM

Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.


Next thing you know Republicans will hop a bus and flee the state en mass rather than do their job... Oh wait, those were Democrats? On more than one occasion? Well they were just standing on their principles, in another state, in hiding.
 
2012-10-08 01:33:55 PM

randomjsa: Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.

Next thing you know Republicans will hop a bus and flee the state en mass rather than do their job... Oh wait, those were Democrats? On more than one occasion? Well they were just standing on their principles, in another state, in hiding.


Wow, digging deep for that one.
 
2012-10-08 01:35:01 PM

bwilson27: Corvus:

Wow. So somehow Reid earlier in the year realizing Republicans were just going to stonewall is magically forcing Bohner to shut down congress when people actually have said they would get things done.

I like how it's Democrats who magically for Republicans to act like idiots, they somehow have no control over their own actions.

??? I'll bet not even you can decipher that shiat you just spewed.


For=force. I honestly didn't find it that hard to decipher. And the comma should probably be a semicolon.

/took the English PRAXIS today
 
2012-10-08 01:35:02 PM

Gyrfalcon: Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.

I'm thinking of running for office just so I can sit around and biatch while drawing a six-figure salary and blaming my lack of working on the opposition.


Dude, you don't just sit around. You use your position to give favors that will be paid back to you after your time in government is over.
 
2012-10-08 01:36:48 PM

randomjsa: Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.

Next thing you know Republicans will hop a bus and flee the state en mass rather than do their job... Oh wait, those were Democrats? On more than one occasion? Well they were just standing on their principles, in another state, in hiding.


Is that really all that different than record phillibuster numbers, but by just saying "not gonna touch?"

/thinks all procedural hoop-yahs like both are horse shiat
//i apply blame to both (D) & (R)
 
2012-10-08 01:37:15 PM

randomjsa: Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.

Next thing you know Republicans will hop a bus and flee the state en mass rather than do their job... Oh wait, those were Democrats? On more than one occasion? Well they were just standing on their principles, in another state, in hiding.


I'm sure if Wisconsin had the same cloture rules as the Senate, they wouldn't have.
 
2012-10-08 01:40:26 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Gyrfalcon: Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.

I'm thinking of running for office just so I can sit around and biatch while drawing a six-figure salary and blaming my lack of working on the opposition.

Dude, you don't just sit around. You use your position to give favors that will be paid back to you after your time in government is over.


I can be a whore for that kind of money.
 
2012-10-08 01:42:18 PM
Well, that should convince Moody's to downgrade the US debt. Not only will we not have a solution by the end of the year, but Boehner just confirmed that there won't even be a serious attempt to reach one.

Awesome.
 
2012-10-08 01:47:09 PM

Blue_Blazer:

For=force. I honestly didn't find it that hard to decipher. And the comma should probably be a semicolon.

/took the English PRAXIS today


Congratulations, you understand Derp.
 
2012-10-08 01:48:26 PM

naughtyrev: ManateeGag: The Republicans aren't going to replace him with something more useful, like a rock?

I would suggest a carrot - has just the right shade of orange, and isn't prone to tears.


raerae1980: LOL, that was my question. What are the odds he'll be replaced next year?


GAT_00: But does Cantor want to actually rule or does he prefer Boehner as his puppet?


Remember what Bœhner did during the RNC? To his own Party's delegates!?

Keep in mind what a ²;/₃ supermajority actually means. Many people think that it's not all that much more than a regular majority, but think about it: ¹;/₃ + ²;/₃ = ³;/₃ = the whole! So, for a ²;/₃ supermajority, for each and every Nay, there must be at least two Ayes! For a voice vote, the Ayes would have to be at least twice as loud (with enough extra to remove all doubt and force a hand-count or other manual vote) as the Nays!

Yes, the DNC pre-scripted their voice vote, too, and that is indeed very bad as well (for reasons why, click the link), but:

• (A) The DNC didn′t (to the best of my knowledge) pre-rig it by preventing the seating of a whole State′s delegation (Maine) because they were in the Ron Paul camp (note: I′m certainly no Ron Paul supporter, but it′s the principle of the thing here), then hold captive on a shuttle bus the delegations of two more States (plus the head Rules Committee guy leading the opposition to this rule), not letting them disembark until after this key rules change vote!

And,

• (B) What the DNC voted on, though it got much more press and was much more of a hot-button issue with the general population, was merely symbolic wording in the Party platform, not a key change in the Party rules that would forever disenfranchise all grassroots movements (including the Tea Party!) from ever again having any chance of power in the GOP!

Actually, with the Maine thing, the establishment GOP Party bosses basically acted as if the rule were already in effect, when it hadn′t even been voted on!

There′s a couple of issues that even Ben Swann missed in that video I linked to (please do watch it ― it′s really important!).

One is what happened immediately after Bœhner announced the ‶results′′ of the ‶vote′′: immediately, there were calls (clearly audible, but you have to listen carefully for them) of ‶Objection!′′ and ‶Point of Order!′′ But, simultaneous with that, there were shouts of ‶U.S.A.! U.S.A.!!′′ At least one delegate has come forward saying that they had been previously instructed to shout that immediately after the results were announced, without being told why.

The reason why is that, under the rules of parliamentary procedure, if the chair hears any calls of Objection or Point of Order, he must immediately call on one or more of the objectors and allow them to state their objection, then deal with it in a satisfactory manner, before proceeding to anything else. The shouts of ‶U.S.A.! U.S.A.!!′′ were designed to drown those out, and gave Bœner plausible deniability (or, what would be plausible deniability were it not for the damning teleprompter footage) to claim that the chair had heard no objections (which was likewise stated on the teleprompter, scrolling on-screen before the fake results were announced and the shouts began!

And this leads us to the third big difference between what the DNC did and what the RNC did, and the biggest issue here of all, at least in the short term as well as for the past two years:

(C) The chair of the DNC for that vote was the Mayor of Los Angeles. The chair for the RNC vote was the Speaker of the U.S. Congressional House of Representatives, the single most powerful directly elected (as opposed to Electoral College or appointed) person in the entire Federal Government! His job in Congress is to do as he did here, and adjudicate the results of voice votes.

He has thoroughly demonstrated, on video, that he is quite willing to perjure his judging of the results of a voice vote on even a vital key issue, even for his own Party at their own Convention!

Has he ever, even once, done likewise to the U.S. House of Representatives when they were floor-voting on actual bills to be passed on to the Senate or even to the President for his signature? Have any bills not been passed on that should′ve been, or vice-versa, just because he personally wanted them to pass or fail, regardless of how the rest of Congress voted?
 
2012-10-08 01:51:28 PM
it should be evident to everyone that politicians are not here to assist you in any way



/unless you are a "special interest"
 
2012-10-08 01:52:53 PM

soakitincider: it should be evident to everyone that politicians are not here to assist you in any way



/unless you are a "special interest"


They should carve that into the door of the Senate and House.
 
2012-10-08 01:53:05 PM
How is this not taxation without representation? I'm sorry is Congress such an institution that we are not allowed to revolt against the people holding our country hostage?

DO YOUR F*CKING JOBS, ASSHOLES, BEFORE WE COME OVER THERE AND MAKE YOU.
 
2012-10-08 01:56:34 PM

This Is Bold Text: Well, we definitely don't want people making decisions without political motivations.


Holy shiat - THIS ^

/I wish Boehner could be one of those 'defeated members' but we could never be so lucky
//For talking shiat about the unemployed and poor all the time, Republican congressmen sure are lazy assholes who look for any excuse to still get paid but not have to work
 
2012-10-08 01:57:35 PM

Tigger: The only way Boehner can repair his legacy at this stage would be a highly apologetic suicide note.


lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-10-08 01:59:09 PM

Teufelaffe: I'm sure you can give us multiple examples of these bills, right?


SB 4449: The Nurturing in Bipartisan Organization and National Galvanization (NiBONG) Act
 
2012-10-08 02:03:41 PM
Since we're talking about a "deficit deal" I'm having a hard time seeing why this is a bad thing. I think Boehner's a tool as much as the next guy but the president is way to willing to Grand Bargain away the future of Social Security and Medicare. Republican extremism may save the president from himself.
 
2012-10-08 02:06:28 PM
Translation: I think we'll have more control after the election and so we will wait until later when we assume we will have more bargaining power and won't have to get our decision passed through Obama.
 
2012-10-08 02:06:32 PM

Lost Thought 00: No budget by the end of the year means a $1 trillion cut in defense spending, to take effect immediately. Your choice, Boehner


Sequestration honestly sounds like the best thing that could happen in this situation. Politicians can defend their constituency's cash cows being cut because everything else is as well, and individual groups can't claim they're being unfairly targeted. Naturally, our politicians will just herpaderp their way out of it and respond with nothing.
 
2012-10-08 02:25:08 PM

regindyn: Lost Thought 00: No budget by the end of the year means a $1 trillion cut in defense spending, to take effect immediately. Your choice, Boehner

Sequestration honestly sounds like the best thing that could happen in this situation. Politicians can defend their constituency's cash cows being cut because everything else is as well, and individual groups can't claim they're being unfairly targeted. Naturally, our politicians will just herpaderp their way out of it and respond with nothing.


of course they will blame Obama for not doing anything to prevent it....
 
2012-10-08 02:31:28 PM

randomjsa: Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.

Next thing you know Republicans will hop a bus and flee the state en mass rather than do their job... Oh wait, those were Democrats? On more than one occasion? Well they were just standing on their principles, in another state, in hiding.


So are you saying this really the same thing? Really? Wow...
 
2012-10-08 02:40:08 PM
Hope you can get used to the thought of torches and pitchforks, Boehner. The D.C. area's economy will be destroyed.
 
2012-10-08 02:46:17 PM
This is risking the economy for political gain. The fiscal cliff is already hammering manufacturing as companies are delaying purchases to keep their powder dry. Add to that the obvious recognition that hurting the economy helps Romney and see this for what it plainly is.
 
2012-10-08 03:04:30 PM
Gridlock! DELICIOUS GRIDLOCK!!!
 
2012-10-08 03:17:31 PM

Teufelaffe: MyRandomName: Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.

So you are completely ignorant to the fact Reid said as much earlier this year when he stated he didn't need to pass a swayed budget? Please tell me again how it is republicans and nit liberals passing on their obligations. The house has passed multiple bills and budgets that Reid refuses to even send to committee. Maybe you should stop throwing rocks in that house of yours.

I'm sure you can give us multiple examples of these bills, right?


There's the bill that allows companies to spray children with coal dust. That's worth at least 40,000 jobs.
 
2012-10-08 03:23:41 PM

sprawl15: Teufelaffe: MyRandomName: Aarontology: I really wish I was a Republican so I could just flat out refuse to do my f*cking job.

But here I am, working like a sucker and earning my money.

So you are completely ignorant to the fact Reid said as much earlier this year when he stated he didn't need to pass a swayed budget? Please tell me again how it is republicans and nit liberals passing on their obligations. The house has passed multiple bills and budgets that Reid refuses to even send to committee. Maybe you should stop throwing rocks in that house of yours.

I'm sure you can give us multiple examples of these bills, right?

There's the bill that allows companies to spray children with coal dust. That's worth at least 40,000 jobs.


A few months ago I went on I believe it was the GOP House of Reps' site that had a section labelled "Jobs Bills" or something to that effect, and almost every single one was either some deregulation on coal or oil companies, environmental related deregulation for other industries, and tax cuts for the rich. Needless to say, I was pretty appalled how hard they were pushing this deregulation+tax cut = more jobs ideology.
 
2012-10-08 03:27:50 PM

orlandomagik: A few months ago I went on I believe it was the GOP House of Reps' site that had a section labelled "Jobs Bills" or something to that effect, and almost every single one was either some deregulation on coal or oil companies, environmental related deregulation for other industries, and tax cuts for the rich.


H. Res. 72 - (no action) This bill tells major departments to basically audit themselves and do a book report on it. There is no action taken by anyone involved beyond a paperwork drill.
H.R. 872 - (no action) This bill removes authority by both the state and the EPA to prevent people from spraying pesticides into navigable waters.
H.R. 910 - (no action) This bill eliminates the ability of the EPA to control greenhouse gasses for purposes of mitigating climate change.
H.J. Res. 37 - (voted down by Senate) This bill eliminates Net Neutrality
H.R. 2018 - (no action) This bill effectively transfers all control of water pollution to the states.
H.R. 1315 - (no action) This bill allows the two Dodd-Frank regulatory agencies to overrule eachother when it comes to striking down regulations. It also creates piles of paperwork when creating new regulations. It also vaporizes the FHA home lone program.
H.R. 2587 - (no action) This bill prevents the NLRB from ordering any employer to close, relocate, or transfer employment for any reason.
H.R. 2401 - (no action) This bill guts the Clean Air Act, while adding roadblocks to most EPA programs.
H.R. 2681 - (no action) This bill exempts the cement industry from the National Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants and from trash incineration hazardous materials standards
H.R. 2250 - (no action) This bill eliminates a swath of hazardous material standards and hamstrings potential future replacement of these regulations
H.R. 2273 - (no action) This bill allows states to let coal power plants dump their waste in landfills
H.R. 3094 - (no action) This bill lets the NLRB determine the unit allowed to collectively bargain, rather than organization by company, shop, plant, etc.
H.R. 3010 - (no action) This bill requires a huge amount of paperwork drills to be run before executive branch rules changes can be enacted
H.R. 527 - (no action) This bill expands the RFA to tribal organizations.
H.R. 10 - (no action) This bill requires every single regulatory change to pass through Congress first.
H.R. 1633 - (no action) This bill prevents the EPA from regulating any air quality standard relating to particles greater than 2.5 micrometers.
H.R. 1837 - (no action) This bill adds sturgeon to the San Joaquin River.
H.R. 2087 - (no action) This bill removes all deed restrictions to a 31.6 acre parcel of land in Accomack County, Virginia.
H.R. 4078 - (no action) This bill prohibits any significant regulatory action until unemployment is less than 6%.
H.R. 9 - (no action) This bill is a tax cut to small businesses (defined solely by number of employees) equal to 50% of their wages paid out to non-owners or 50% of wages paid out to family members.
H.R. 436 - (no action) This bill repeals an excise tax on medical devices and lets HSA/flex account funds be spent on OTC drugs.
H.R. 8 - (no action) This bill extends the Bush Tax Cuts for another year. This specifically exempts itself from PAYGO. It also starts the restructuring of the tax code into two brackets (10% and less than 25%), reducing the corporate tax to less than 25%, repealing the AMT, and 'reforming' foreign taxation.
H.R. 6169 - (no action) This bill implements the above restructuring.
H.R. 1904 - (no action) This bill trades protected Federal land to Resolution Copper Mining, LLC in exchange for non-Federal land that will become protected (including imposition of eminent domain on local towns).
H.R. 4402 - (no action) This bill extends the definition of 'infrastructure project' to include mineral mines.
H.R. 3012 - (no action) This bill increases the amount of available high-skill immigrant visas and immigrant student visas.
H.R. 1230 - (no action) This bill directs the Secretary of the Interior to conduct three specific lease sales of oil and gas in the Gulf of Mexico and one off the coast of Virginia.
H.R. 1229 - (no action) This bill directs the Secretary of the Interior to end the moratorium on drilling and severely limits the ability of these company's employees to sue for failure to act in accordance with the law or company policy.
H.R. 1231 - (no action) This bill ends the drilling moratorium.
H.R. 2021 - (no action) This bill exempts Outer Continental Shelf oil/gas companies from the Clean Air Act.
H.R. 1938 - (no action) This bill forces the Keystone XL pipeline to be approved.
H.R. 2842 - (no action) This bill lets the Secretary of the Interior contract hydroelectric facilities that produce 1.5 megawatts of power or less.
H.R. 2578 - (no action) This bill reduces the protected length of the Lower Merced River in California. It also throws more money at Hydroelectric power on the Diamond Fork System in Utah, sells tribal land to corporations, expands the Mission Walk in San Antonio by 137 acres, and about a dozen more miscellaneous similar environmental changes.
H.R. 4480 - (no action) This bill pushes to expand deepwater oil and natural gas drilling.
 
2012-10-08 03:35:40 PM

sprawl15: ...list...


Fascinating. Is that the complete list of legislation passed by the House in that period, or just the ones that are allegedly 'job creation' bills?
 
2012-10-08 03:41:06 PM

fringedmyotis: Fascinating. Is that the complete list of legislation passed by the House in that period, or just the ones that are allegedly 'job creation' bills?


It's bills that the GOP assert are job creation bills. That specific list was pulled from an earlier Fark thread where someone used these bills as an example of Obama stifling job creation; I was bored, so I looked 'em up.

It looks like the person who posted them got the majority of the list off Cantor's site (including the order for most of them), though I make no claims to my list being complete.
 
2012-10-08 03:49:19 PM
Where's all the vaginer bills?

fap
 
2012-10-08 04:20:19 PM
Good thing Ryan swung through DC long enough to vote for a stopgap measure to keep his paychecks coming in while he's out not doing his job.
 
2012-10-08 05:06:04 PM
There's still 4 weeks till the elections. You lazy piece of shiat republicans need to get your sorry asses back to DC and do your damn jobs. Pussies, every single one of you, ESPECIALLY those who elect these assholes in the first place.
 
2012-10-08 05:37:41 PM
Boehner takes a diarrhea shiat and congress has to shut down.
 
2012-10-08 05:53:44 PM
As long as he gets 98% of what he wants, it's good news for Obama.
 
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