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2012-10-08 03:48:59 PM

JolobinSmokin: ... camera that could take 26 pic's.

...Really took off when i could just ...

...until around 2pm when i check my fancy P.O. box address that actually says suite # instead of P.O. box because for some reason banks liked to see that and i didn't want angry customer's showing up to my house...

... take some photo's for new construction on a lake in oklahoma, then drive back to tulsa inspect a forelcosed duplex...

...Tomorrow, i'll leave the house... they don't really move to quickly ...

...Then on Wednesday & thursday i'll sit at home all day typing listening to music drinking beer and smoking pot, and when i'm finished with the reports I...

...It's beautiful and i love it...

...6 figures a year while your in your underwear...


You're claiming to earn a 6-figure salary based solely on your ability to communicate online, and you don't understand basic capitalization or how to use apostrophes and commas? I question your credibility.
 
2012-10-08 03:49:01 PM

meat0918: To put it simply.

Most bosses do not trust you to be actually working at home.

I know I would trust maybe 1 or 2 out of the 6 person team I work with to actually work while they are home.


Then you didn't do your job very well when you hired the other 4 did you?

/I know, management is hard
 
2012-10-08 03:50:54 PM
I can do some things from home, but this has not let me work from home yet:

rohos.com

And we are in the midst of a long library conversion; culling a herd of obsolete circuit breakers from the shared library while making default settings. The 1 gig shared library got to be really really slow.

/anyone else use SKM?
 
2012-10-08 03:52:28 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: meat0918: To put it simply.

Most bosses do not trust you to be actually working at home.

I know I would trust maybe 1 or 2 out of the 6 person team I work with to actually work while they are home.

So you hired people you can't trust?


I never said I was the boss, and my input on hiring decisions has fark all to do with my boss's decision to hire some of the people we've hired. The last few individuals I've helped interview, I could tell he had made up his mind to hire or not hire that individual before the interview had even been scheduled.
 
2012-10-08 03:53:33 PM

rohar: meat0918: To put it simply.

Most bosses do not trust you to be actually working at home.

I know I would trust maybe 1 or 2 out of the 6 person team I work with to actually work while they are home.

Then you didn't do your job very well when you hired the other 4 did you?

/I know, management is hard


What worries me the most is that he went through the same thought process when he hired me.
 
2012-10-08 03:53:46 PM
In our office, it's one word: jealousy.

Some workers will never be able to telecommute, so they raise holy hell every time those of us who can bring it up to the management.
 
2012-10-08 03:55:40 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: give me doughnuts:
5) I like to keep work-place and home-place seperate. I feel more motivated to work and stay on task better at the office (he said while hanging out on Fark at work).

Yeah, forgot to mention that one. I could never study effectively in college from my dorm room. I needed to go somewhere that felt like "work".


This one is a biggie.

I have the option of telecommuting, which I exercise 95% of the time. But you know what? Even with knowing that the next time I have to go into the office at rush hour time, I feel better at home when I leave the computer at the office. Not having work lurking 10 feet from my dining room is better for mental health. Also, the commute serves to create a mental boundary between work and home, gives you time to switch gears and disconnect. As long as it isn't a ridiculous long one, it's a benefit to your mental health to have a commute.

One other thing: I have little kids that just learned to use doorknobs. Telecommute levels of home peace are now a rarity. :(

Now I just switched jobs to another one where I'll not have the telecommute option as easy as here. I'll miss that, but bigger paycheck, closer to home, etc...
 
2012-10-08 04:10:20 PM
"The Internet should have allowed most people to work from home. So why are we still commuting?"

Maybe because here I baked you a cookie on-line and it is zero calories! isn't very filling and you sure can't drive it to work.

Or; most people still do stuff.
 
2012-10-08 04:21:23 PM

Richelieu: JolobinSmokin: ... camera that could take 26 pic's.

...Really took off when i could just ...

...until around 2pm when i check my fancy P.O. box address that actually says suite # instead of P.O. box because for some reason banks liked to see that and i didn't want angry customer's showing up to my house...

... take some photo's for new construction on a lake in oklahoma, then drive back to tulsa inspect a forelcosed duplex...

...Tomorrow, i'll leave the house... they don't really move to quickly ...

...Then on Wednesday & thursday i'll sit at home all day typing listening to music drinking beer and smoking pot, and when i'm finished with the reports I...

...It's beautiful and i love it...

...6 figures a year while your in your underwear...

You're claiming to earn a 6-figure salary based solely on your ability to communicate online, and you don't understand basic capitalization or how to use apostrophes and commas? I question your credibility.


Lol, I was unaware fark comment section was an official transcript that needed correct punctuation.

You make me laugh, and the fact that you know nothing of the real estate appraisal business or how it works makes me laugh.

I type up reports and I punctuate and engrishify them up as much as needed and most our reports are typed in all caps because of the form and formats of the software.

Your ignorance or the industry and its standards is only as laughable as your trying to check my punctuation.

You sound mad that you don't get paid as much for more work than I do, but be happy that you'll never be an appraiser because noone will ever take you as an apprentice even if you get your degree and take the extra 300 hours of appraisal school no one will ever allow you to gain the experience to become one us of,

So I would be mad too if I were u, B-)
 
2012-10-08 04:23:53 PM

gingerjet: I'm a manager and I completely disagree. Unless you have it ingrained in your culture that people will not be in the office and develop the tools to support it - telecommuting simply won't work. That takes leadership and many have failed trying to change such a culture.

/one of my employees is moving to 100% telecommuting and I fully support it
//it will make my job a little harder but that is what I get paid to do


Telecommuting works fine, apparently it's just YOU that has a problem with it. How does it make YOUR job more difficult? All you should care about is if the work assigned is being completed on time and competently...and if they show up for conference calls.

My last gig, I had to be in the office once a week (on Friday) for our weekly meeting. Occasionally I'd show up for other meetings if there was a vendor on site...but 90% of my work could be completed remotely.

Besides, if I'm expected to work with people around the globe (basically working early mornings for Europe or midnights for Asia) then a little flexibility from management goes a long way.
 
2012-10-08 04:24:36 PM
Will only telecommute. fark the office!
 
2012-10-08 04:28:13 PM
I've been working at home for about the past 6.5 years. Over the years, I'd have to say the biggest benefit to the company would have to be my productivity. If I am always working from home, I'm more likely to put in longer hours, I'll start work when most people are leaving to travel to work and I'm working until they get home from work. I normally work much longer hours than that, but at a minimum, the company is gaining 2 hours a day from me, give or take.
 
2012-10-08 04:39:48 PM

poot_rootbeer: Most policymakers assume that anybody who's permitted to "work from home" will spend their days the same way they would: about an hour a day of trying to seem responsive, and seven hours of masturbating themselves raw.


But the chaffing is a whole ne sensation that can reinvigorate your passion!
 
2012-10-08 04:45:44 PM
i291.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-08 05:04:14 PM
My wife has worked (is working now, in fact) in a couple situations that allow telecommuting, and it seems like some of the basic problems can solved thusly, as they have been at her shops:

1. Set hours when you're expected to be at your "desk" or otherwise available or reachable.

2. A requirement that any kids, pets or whatever be otherwise occupied while you're at work. So whether your kids are in school, are at daycare, or have a nanny, you basically aren't allowed to watch your kids and your office work at the same time. There's just no way you can do one or the other well while trying to do both at the same time.

3. Some requirement that you show up at an office from time to time. In one shop, my wife (and everyone else) each got a telecommute day, and the option of a four-day workweek if they put in extra time on those four days. But everybody had to be in the office at the same time once a week to handle any weekly meetings or whatnot, or just so everybody saw each other at least once.

Now, my wife's current company has her as a one-person remote division far off company HQ, and they have her travel to town (with other telecommuters) about every six weeks and work for a couple days from there. The nice thing is that usually the company has some sort of event planned while they're in town, so it's more than just showing up to work the mines two days a month.
 
2012-10-08 05:11:46 PM
All this way down the thread and not ONE of you posted the "Fat Homer using stick on computer" pic??

Sigh. Kids these days.

legalproductivity.rocketmatter.com
 
2012-10-08 05:16:14 PM
Because I don't want my clients in my house?
 
2012-10-08 05:17:13 PM
Because our boss still wishes the engineering department looked like this:

umhistory.dc.umich.edu

Hot hot HOT!

Oh and:

Slives: Sometimes there are personal reasons for choosing to not telecommute. In my case, I could be 100% work at home, but with a stay at home wife and 2 kids in the house, it is not a good work environment.
With kids that want to check in on dad all the time and a wife that has admitted she gets frustrated when watching the kids while I 'just sit up there on the computer' while working.

So it is a lot safer for me and my marriage to get out of the house to work.


After my wife got ill I telecommuted so I could take care of her, but I was DAMN glad to get back to work and away from the "Oh, since you're home, why don't we go do something?" and "The kids both missed the bus again, can you take them to school?"
 
2012-10-08 05:28:36 PM
How am I going to root through the fridge at night eating everyone else's leftovers from home, braniac?
 
2012-10-08 05:28:48 PM

Aarontology: Generation_D: Aarontology: A couple of lots laptops with sensitive information on them put a halt to that real damn quick here.

Must suck your corporate IT security allowed that fail to happen. Have you considered hiring a security consultant?

It was less about IT security as it was about some dumbass leaving the company laptop at a cafe. No information got out as far as I know, but they got super paranoid after that.


I've been that dumbass except it was a NYC taxi. The cabbie actually found my home address in Brooklyn and brought it back to me the next day. He refused to take the $100 I offered him as a reward.

I would have been toast. I probably would have been canned or at the very least would have lost my regional job and would have got stuck in corporate HQ. The boss never found out and I sure as shiat never brought it up. I've never bad mouthed a cabbie since.
 
2012-10-08 05:32:05 PM

dittybopper: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: As much as I'd rather telecommute, there are some advantages to being on site for me:

(1) it drags my ass out of the house daily and forces a disciplined schedule on me.
(2) Sadly, we're not a paperless office, so I still need access to the physical files sometimes.
(3) Coworkers do, in fact, make one's brain think about things you wouldn't think about if you weren't physically present. Sure, the chairwhale in the next cube may be droning on and on about jellybeans, but that can strangely spur your brain to remember the update the TPS report.
(4) And sometimes the chairwhale does have good ideas that you wouldn't have otherwise have heard if you weren't nearby.

Whatever, though: I just want to nap at the office and maybe bring my cat.

That's why I like a mix of telecommuting and physical presence. I get the benefits of both.


This. My job is essentially paper shuffling, with some legal analysis and some contact with outside firms and the general public. I telecommuted for 2 weeks while they renovated our offices. While I don't think I'd want to do it full-time, it'd be nice to be able to do it maybe once or twice per week. save commute time, gas, etc.
 
2012-10-08 05:32:46 PM

JolobinSmokin: Richelieu: JolobinSmokin: ... camera that could take 26 pic's.

...Really took off when i could just ...

...until around 2pm when i check my fancy P.O. box address that actually says suite # instead of P.O. box because for some reason banks liked to see that and i didn't want angry customer's showing up to my house...

... take some photo's for new construction on a lake in oklahoma, then drive back to tulsa inspect a forelcosed duplex...

...Tomorrow, i'll leave the house... they don't really move to quickly ...

...Then on Wednesday & thursday i'll sit at home all day typing listening to music drinking beer and smoking pot, and when i'm finished with the reports I...

...It's beautiful and i love it...

...6 figures a year while your in your underwear...

You're claiming to earn a 6-figure salary based solely on your ability to communicate online, and you don't understand basic capitalization or how to use apostrophes and commas? I question your credibility.

Lol, I was unaware fark comment section was an official transcript that needed correct punctuation.

You make me laugh, and the fact that you know nothing of the real estate appraisal business or how it works makes me laugh.

I type up reports and I punctuate and engrishify them up as much as needed and most our reports are typed in all caps because of the form and formats of the software.

Your ignorance or the industry and its standards is only as laughable as your trying to check my punctuation.

You sound mad that you don't get paid as much for more work than I do, but be happy that you'll never be an appraiser because noone will ever take you as an apprentice even if you get your degree and take the extra 300 hours of appraisal school no one will ever allow you to gain the experience to become one us of,

So I would be mad too if I were u, B-)


Why do you need a degree to appraise real estate?
 
2012-10-08 05:37:20 PM
I could do my entire job remotely, but corporate doesn't want to give access to some information to people who are off site. I started off doing a small part of my current job remotely, and then was asked into the office when a position opened up. The pay and perks are better now, but my commute is a biatch.
 
2012-10-08 05:46:01 PM
You know if we don't need you in the office we don't need you in this country. Hello low pay China and India.
 
2012-10-08 05:49:13 PM

mrlewish: You know if we don't need you in the office we don't need you in this country. Hello low pay China and India.


who do such shiat work that if you look at any thing further out than a quarter it isn't worth it.
 
2012-10-08 06:03:39 PM
Fark_Guy_Rob: I worked at a company that used to allow telecommuting. But lazy people ruined it. Far too many people abused the system. They stayed home and did nothing.

That

It goes through cycles, they enable telecommuting, some dick abuses the system, they clamp down on telecommuting.

// Seems to be a 5 year cycle here

// 1 day / week would be fine and dandy for me (one day of not having to wake up early to avoid traffic, one day of eating an actual breakfast, one day of not driving with the retards, one day of not fighting for parking in an overcrowded lot). I would pick Wednesday for a mid week refresh.
 
2012-10-08 06:08:45 PM
dittybopper: I'm pretty paranoid about my work laptop.

I have a desktop (soon to be two if I start linux programming) and a laptop.

The laptop was used equipment (from some other group), it's a generation or two behind but it does exactly what I need it to do (present crap at meetings). And the hit to the dept budget was a fraction of what a new 'desktop replacement' style laptop would have cost.

My real work gets done on the desktop, the work laptop is essentially a dumb terminal.

// the work laptop stays at work, when I get home, I can fire up the VPN and remote desktop to the work desktop from my home desktop or home laptop ... bonus, not lugging equipment between work/home.
 
2012-10-08 06:30:33 PM

unyon: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The thrill of furtively masturbating under my desk while staring at the cleaning lady is sharply reduced whem I'm at home.

At home I get to bang the cleaning lady.


At home, I also get to bang your cleaning lady.
 
2012-10-08 06:48:27 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Most people are lazy sobs.

I worked at a company that used to allow telecommuting. But lazy people ruined it. Far too many people abused the system. They stayed home and did nothing.

The truth is, I'd be willing to take a significant pay cut (and the company would save on equipment/office space) if I could telecommute 100% of the time. The real benefit (for me anyway) would be going to the middle of Montana and buying a nice house with lots of land for 150k with low, low property tax and a 0% sales tax. I could still work for the same Chicago-based company, but instead of feeling poor with my 80k salary, I could live like a king with my 60k salary.

// If anyone is hiring....let me know ;)


The head engineer at a previous job moved to Montana and telecommuted from there. He was let go because he didn't get any of his work done and spent all his time farming dental floss.
 
2012-10-08 07:00:02 PM
8-10 years ago my wifes employer had all the folks in her department set up home offices. they tossed either 2K or 2,500.oo at each employ for expenses, equipment. went through all that work and nothing ever came of it.

--one of her bosses was very strange & cruel. human resources did nothing about the complaints. boss lady finally snapped and was taken out strapped down by ambulance people.
 
2012-10-08 07:02:19 PM

lewismarktwo: JolobinSmokin: Richelieu: JolobinSmokin: ... camera that could take 26 pic's.



Why do you need a degree to appraise real estate?



Why do you need a degree to appraise real estate?

Long answer

Well it isn't as easy as walking up to someone's house and saying $250,000 or $1,200 000.

There is alot of small scale statistical modeling you have to do for your neighborhood, town, city and expand that onto seperate trends of growth, decline, revitalization and their affect on value.
You have to search for alot of data pick out the best that supports the market value and include that into a well written report to have to be understandable to regular people by law. You need computer skills, allgebra, small amounts of Trig and Geometry and even though i don't really need it I use Calculus a few times a day.

So there are many standard we have to meet and you have to be able to do all this with a small amount of information(town of 5-10K) or with large amount of info, large city like Tulsa or OKC.
Small amounts of data are harder to follow trends. Large amounts of Data are harder because there are so many trends.

This new house that sold for 100K, but a house sold just like it across the street for $98,750, that % change in value of say a seven month period, you have to calculate the difference and add that or subtract that value from your comparable sales depending on if it's a stable/declining/increasing market. All of which has to be studied and calculated on a individual basis per each house.
Plus alot more math and other stuff i don't really care to explain right now.

Short Answer

Step 1. Require new appraisers to have a Bach. Degree.

Step. 2 Require new appraisers to have 2-300 hours of specific appraisal classes pluss be an apprentice for a minimum of 2 years with 2-3000 hours of experience, i.e. each house worth 6-8 hours and additional 1500 hours of non-residential/commercial work for higher Appraiser designation.

Step. 3 Don't hire any new trainee's and only hire inhouse staff support so as no new appraisers are being trained and all the older one's are dieing off.

Step 4. Your one of only a few appraiser's left with no new real competition coming anytime soon because you have to sign off on your competition, therefore profit.

I't s license to steel,

You need an appraisal to Foreclose on a house.

You need an appraisal to buy a house with a loan

You need an appraisal to refinance your mortgage.

I hope that answers your question, it's great business if you can get into it.

I know alot of people who have spent thousands of dollars on appraisal classes, but can't find anyone to sign off for them.

I ignore their calls.
 
2012-10-08 07:05:12 PM
I'll admit, I don't do much when I'm telecommuting. Well, no actual work, anyway. Like others have mentioned, the wife was always quick to ask me to do the chores or errands. Plus, I'd usually get high in the morning and play xbox.

I'm not really interested. I need time outside of the house. There are lots of days I don't want to come in to work, but the commute isn't the problem.
 
2012-10-08 07:08:23 PM
And, this blog was written by an idiot. He really couldn't envision any types of employment except an office?
 
2012-10-08 07:09:30 PM
because of all the 50+ year olds that can't afford to retire and can't tell the difference between a USB, ethernet and power cable.
 
2012-10-08 07:36:27 PM
We had a central office in a small rural oklahoma town, while i had the big office in Tulsa.

In the old days of going to the actual county courthouse to get assessor information that was a good idea.

Now, I shut down the offices everyone does their work from home and send it to me for review.

If they don't get it to me by the due date, they don't get anymore work.

Everyone meet's their due date and have as much flexibility as they want or need.

The fact that by law we can't contact banks or lenders about our appraisal orders and can't give any information by law to realtors and actually, I couldn't even tell my best friend a value of his house without having all the proper files and back up to support that value or he could legally sue me and justly so.

It's complicated mess made more complicated by the Saving & Loan scandle under Reagan and the recent Financial melt down under Bush W.

I voted many times republican, but because of what i see the republican party becoming I'm a libby lib who loves libbing all the lib time.

It used to be if you wanted to live like a republican you voted like a democrat.

That was when republicans were elite Northeastern business types, now they are fat stupid rednecks and i'm related to so many of them i'm allowed to call them that, because i'm speaking as an Okie from experience.
 
2012-10-08 07:37:06 PM
I would be single and out-of-work in a month if I were allowed to work from home, with only my blistered palms to keep me company.

//fapfapfap
 
2012-10-08 08:50:50 PM
Whether I work from home or not has a lot to do with what I need to accomplish that day and whether I feel the need to make appearances.

Prepping lecture notes? I usually do that during my underutilized office hours. Grading? That's usually at IHOP or a brewpub, sometimes at home or the office.

Meetings? About half of them are off-campus, so it depends. Usually I'll try to balance out a marathon day so I can stop at home and check on my pets, take a breather, etc.

Working on a manuscript? I'm at home. Running the stats for said manuscript? I'm at the office.

I usually get at least 10-15 hours a week on campus, but I easily work 50-60 hours a week, because academia is a lifestyle.

/first night without an impending deadline since the school year started
//I even managed not to work this weekend, woo!
 
2012-10-08 09:33:42 PM

Bonkthat_Again: I think he nailed it right on the head.


He could have summed it up in 3 words, "Bosses are assholes"
 
2012-10-08 09:36:51 PM
I would love to telecommute except for the pesky bits about it being illegal and my work computer costs more than I make in several months
 
2012-10-08 09:38:55 PM
For people who work in call centers (a job that could easily, and less expensively, be done from home), the answer is simple: the Communication Workers of America. It's a lot harder to unionize people who work at home than those who have to get together in a cubicle farm every day.
 
2012-10-08 10:21:06 PM
Working from home is one of the most overrated things ever. I did it for about two years and I never will again.
 
2012-10-08 10:21:43 PM
Telecommuting for ... a year? More? Drove me pretty much insane. I sat with my computer in the concrete box of my apartment bedroom. I was starved for human contact, rarely bothered with clothing, kept nothing resembling a schedule and was sad all the time.

When I got my new job with a real office, people asked me how I liked it. My honest, earnest answer was "I get to wear pants!".
 
2012-10-08 10:36:09 PM
I work about 45 minutes from my home (and longer if traffic is backed up, as it often is in St. Louis around the bridges). Working from home is the best option for me, especially since we use Google Apps and Dropbox for pretty much everything except our phones.

What's more, since I'm the director of a small firm, I can do so anytime I want. I've also empowered my staff to do the same.

And yet neither I nor my staff work from home regularly. We take the time to get dressed up and commute in, we waste time chattering, we eat out for lunch or settle for food that we can store in the micro-fridge and make in the microwave. Rarely do any of us actually need to interact in person, and on the rare occasion when someone needs to be shown something, there's no reason we couldn't do so through a Google Hangout.

I asked my staff members why they don't like to telecommute and they all confessed that they hate telephones and video chats. They prefer the in-person experience, despite the fact that we're researchers and hardly the sorts of people who crave social attention. Which makes me think that our desire to be social animals is a big part of why working from home isn't for everyone.
 
2012-10-08 10:54:09 PM
This is one of the reasons my company is implementing VDI (since I'm the one implementing VMware View...it's job security). It isn't that it's less expensive (it isn't despite all the rage about TCO and hardware refreshes)...it just tends to be more secure (if the security guy is doing his job). Users store their sensitive/secret data on the corporate share. Users have to VPN in, then login again to connect to the VDI session where they can access their data. It's a biatch for those that don't have a good network connection (or connect via cellular), but it works for most of our consultants.
 
2012-10-09 12:04:06 AM
I've been working from home for the last five years since they closed our field office. My company is based in Connecticut; I live in Chicago. I've loved it.

Recently, my wife and I were presented with the opportunity to move to California, where all of my family lives. I put together a whole proposal and started pitching it to my boss during our weekly call.

Before I could get through the first point, he interrupted me and said "Sure. I don't give a fark where you work. Move now before your kids are old enough to be in school".

It's nice to have job security that you can take around the country with you.
 
2012-10-09 12:40:54 AM
I work for a national consulting firm, and they figured out a while ago that if you put consultants in the field closer to the clients, its cheaper to have them work from home than open regional offices. So my "office" is my home and my commute is 20 feet, or its out to an airport and over to another city. I get reimbursed for those. Last filled my car's tank in .. August I think. Live downtown (condo) and walk everywhere for daily life.

WFH used to be a weird thing and there was an adjustment period, now I can't imagine going back to an office and dealing with all the crap. Working from home is a lot easier to focus and just get sh*t done.
 
2012-10-09 01:04:08 AM
Envy me. It's a 10-minute walk to my workplace. I'm $120.00 a month ahead on gas I'm not buying anymore. No more commuting.

Not to mention the additional 45 minutes of sleep I get.
 
2012-10-09 01:16:12 AM

Strongbeerrules: Envy me. It's a 10-minute walk to my workplace. I'm $120.00 a month ahead on gas I'm not buying anymore. No more commuting.

Not to mention the additional 45 minutes of sleep I get.


Ten minutes? When I work from home it's about 3 steps from the bed to the computer.
 
2012-10-09 01:41:37 AM
I'm home officed (field engineer) and my boss is about 4.5 hours away by car. I probably do about twice as much work as I did when I worked in a lab, and I'm now spending several hours a day on the road between jobs.

I've never met my boss in person. Just last week, I finally met the fourth person that does the same job I do for this area.

I REALLY love my current job ;)
 
2012-10-09 02:05:21 AM

Hopman: There are some jobs that just can't be done by telecomuting Like mine for instance.

I drive a truck delivering sheet metal parts to job sites. Despite what many people think, there are STILL jobs out there that require a human to do physical labor!


Yeah, I asked about the whole "telecommute thing", but the school district is pretty insistent on having an adult actually be in the drivers seat of the school bus.

/At least I have a lot of pretty buttons to push.
 
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