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(Haaretz)   Israel flies mock Lebanon raids. And speaking of mock, did anyone ever make the Mock Apple Pie from the recipe on the Ritz boxes? That was some good stuff. And cheese, it's pretty awesome, too. Let's all go watch Golden Girls re-runs   (haaretz.com ) divider line
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2012-10-09 06:04:46 AM  

MustTryHarder: Has TappingTheVein ever made a single post that didn't have "anti-semite" in it?

/oh shiat, I must be an anti-semite for asking questions


Yes.

Yes you are. Unless you fully support Israel in EVERY thing it does then you are as bad as being a slave owner. Or Hitler.
 
2012-10-09 06:08:18 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: lake_huron: Too Pretty For Prison: Do you know why I hate Fark? My wife just emailed me and said - hey one of the subby's subbies is just like you!

No, THIS is why you hate Fark.

/subbys may also be acceptable.
//[bob_the_angry_flower.jpg]

You know who else corrected everyone else's violations of the rules of language usage?


A pedant?
 
2012-10-09 06:08:26 AM  

dready zim: "I have the backing of the USA (Who will see no wrong in any action I do) so I will act like an asshole to all the countries around me, especially Palestine"


'Palestine' is not a country and never was a country and i think you are a bit confused which countries attempted to eradicate which country several times.
 
2012-10-09 09:15:42 AM  

MustTryHarder: Has TappingTheVein ever made a single post that didn't have "anti-semite" in it?

/oh shiat, I must be an anti-semite for asking questions


I don't know, but he isn't wrong about Amos Quito at least. That guy has trolled every thread that even tangentially mentions Israel for years on Fark as a legitimate anti-semite. He is one of a small handful of users I finally broke down and put on the ignore list because it was so depressing...
 
2012-10-09 10:50:39 AM  
Amos Quito
Folks of Tappy's ilk don't seem to make the distinction between Jews and Zionists

Agreed; part of the Zionist project is making Israel synonymous with Judaism in order to legitimize it and compel Jews to go there.

and would appear to reserve a frothing level of disdain for anti-Zionist Jews that would rival their hatred of even the common goy.

TappingTheVein
These are Neturei karta and their ilk you farking idiot. They will kiss (literally) anyone who poses any threat to Israel. They are not anti-semites, they are ten times worse.

Point for Amos Quito.

I'm glad you agree that Lebanon is under Iran's occupation. And yes they got stomped, as in having hundreds (if not more) of their terrorists killed, their headquarters turned to craters and their top leader is in hiding ever since. The fact that they are stronger is a testimony to how international agreements are not worth the paper they are signed on when dealing with organizations like Hizballah. useful idiots like yourself should take notes.

IOW they won.

Do you even know what the US aid is compared to Israel's own GDP ? guess not.

Should I include the value of information stolen by Israeli spies?

These are Neturei karta and their ilk you farking idiot. They will kiss (literally) anyone who poses any threat to Israel. They are not anti-semites, they are ten times worse.

So the State of Israel is actually more important than Judaism or Jews in general? Sorry, who exactly is the anti-Semite?

Did you know that AmosQuito blames the jews for WWII, WWI, The Holocaust, JFK's assassination, 9/11, the Mongol invasion of China, the Mayan collapse, the sinking of the Titanic, the charge of the Light Brigade, the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas, the seasonal-only availability of Egg Nog, the An Lushan rebellion, Hitler's support for Franco, and he thinks that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion has some truth in it

FTFY
 
2012-10-09 11:28:04 AM  

RanDomino: Agreed; part of the Zionist project is making Israel synonymous with Judaism in order to legitimize it and compel Jews to go there.

and would appear to reserve a frothing level of disdain for anti-Zionist Jews that would rival their hatred of even the common goy.

TappingTheVein
These are Neturei karta and their ilk you farking idiot. They will kiss (literally) anyone who poses any threat to Israel. They are not anti-semites, they are ten times worse.

Point for Amos Quito.


Oh i know the difference between jews and zionism, I also know that Neturei Karta are an insane sect of lunatics who pray for the destruction of Israel. I'll just add this to the list of things you have no clue about.

RanDomino: IOW they won.


Of course they did. Just like the Egyptians firmly believe they won the 1973 war.

RanDomino: Should I include the value of information stolen by Israeli spies?


Yes, go ahead. And i'm sure you think the US doesn't spy on Israel.

RanDomino: So the State of Israel is actually more important than Judaism or Jews in general? Sorry, who exactly is the anti-Semite?


We already cemented the fact that you have no farking clue who the hell are Neturei Karta and what they stand for. I suggest some googling, no need to embarrass yourself further.

RanDomino: Did you know that AmosQuito blames the jews for WWII, WWI, The Holocaust, JFK's assassination, 9/11, the Mongol invasion of China, the Mayan collapse, the sinking of the Titanic, the charge of the Light Brigade, the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas, the seasonal-only availability of Egg Nog, the An Lushan rebellion, Hitler's support for Franco, and he thinks that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion has some truth in it

FTFY


Ah so you didn't know he blames 'the zionist conspiracies' on WWII, WWI, The Holocaust, 9/11 and everything i else pointed out ? how charming. Why don't you ask him ?
 
2012-10-09 01:44:37 PM  

Amos Quito: TappingTheVein: RanDomino: So just to clarify: If you fly a drone over Israeli desert, it will be shot down; but it's OK for Israel to violate other sovereign countries' airspace at will.

They are most welcome to shoot down the israeli jets.


Looking for an excuse, are we, TappingTheVein? Hoping to suck Uncle Sam into another war?

That's what false-flags are for, right?


Not to get in the way of a dumb argument, but when has Israel ever sucked Uncle Sam into a war? I distinctly remember us sitting out '67, '73, both Lebanon incursions and the Gaza reoccupation (I'm not old enough to remember '47). Iraq was all us; Israel didn't need to suck Rumsfeld, Cheney, et. al. into anything. And Afghanistan was straight-up retaliation for an act of war by the Taliban-supported Al Qaeda.
 
2012-10-09 02:02:02 PM  

fireclown: ocschwar: You want Lebanon to expend SAMs against Israeli drones?

Has a class of drone-killing drones evolved yet? I'm not joking. Ocschwar is right in that a SAM is going to cost a lot more money than a drone, and they are WAY more valuable if they do their intended job, which is to take out planes. It seems to me that a drone could be sent up to loiter and wait for other drones and engage it. Probably just by sidling up next to it and exploding.


Depends on the drone. A U.S. SAM, undoubtedly pricier than Russian ones, costs about $400k. A Predator drone costs about $4 million. There are simple, model-airplane drones that are a lot cheaper, but those are unlikely to be able to intercept a sophisticated, high-altitude drone. What you'll probably see going forward, once drones get sophisticated enough to prove a threat to manned fighters, are RPVs (that's the Air Force's preferred buzz words: Remotely Piloted Vehicles) that have air-to-air missiles.
 
2012-10-09 10:15:25 PM  

RanDomino: Amos Quito
Folks of Tappy's ilk don't seem to make the distinction between Jews and Zionists

Agreed; part of the Zionist project is making Israel synonymous with Judaism in order to legitimize it and compel Jews to go there.

and would appear to reserve a frothing level of disdain for anti-Zionist Jews that would rival their hatred of even the common goy.

TappingTheVein
These are Neturei karta and their ilk you farking idiot. They will kiss (literally) anyone who poses any threat to Israel. They are not anti-semites, they are ten times worse.

Point for Amos Quito.



LOL! Predictable as sunrise.


RanDomino: Do you even know what the US aid is compared to Israel's own GDP ? guess not.

Should I include the value of information stolen by Israeli spies?



The REAL money is in industrial espionage.


RanDomino: These are Neturei karta and their ilk you farking idiot. They will kiss (literally) anyone who poses any threat to Israel. They are not anti-semites, they are ten times worse.

So the State of Israel is actually more important than Judaism or Jews in general? Sorry, who exactly is the anti-Semite?



LOL again! Tappy is a Zionist, a hard-core die-hard supporter of a political movement that has managed to do what Hitler only dreamed of doing: "Rounding up" nearly half of the world's Jewish population and planting them in the most hostile, dangerous position imaginable. They're sitting ducks, waddling and quacking, seemingly oblivious to the fate that awaits them.

And he has the chutzpah to assert that Zionism is "good for the Jews"?


RanDomino: Did you know that AmosQuito blames the jews for WWII, WWI, The Holocaust, JFK's assassination, 9/11, the Mongol invasion of China, the Mayan collapse, the sinking of the Titanic, the charge of the Light Brigade, the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas, the seasonal-only availability of Egg Nog, the An Lushan rebellion, Hitler's support for Franco, and he thinks that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion has some truth in it

FTFY



Great. Now I'll have to insist on cites every time the Egg Nog card is played.

Thanks a lot, RanDomino.
 
2012-10-09 10:36:04 PM  

TappingTheVein: TappingTheVein
These are Neturei karta and their ilk you farking idiot. They will kiss (literally) anyone who poses any threat to Israel. They are not anti-semites, they are ten times worse.

Point for Amos Quito.

Oh i know the difference between jews and zionism, I also know that Neturei Karta are an insane sect of lunatics who pray for the destruction of Israel. I'll just add this to the list of things you have no clue about.



The Neturei Karta are wise enough to know what almost ALL Jews knew prior to WWII: That Zionism is a BAD IDEA that will end BADLY for all involved - ESPECIALLY the Jews.

Were it not for Hitler, Zionism would have FAILED. Hitler may have been bad for the Jews, but to the Zionists he was a Godsend.


TappingTheVein: RanDomino: So the State of Israel is actually more important than Judaism or Jews in general? Sorry, who exactly is the anti-Semite?

We already cemented the fact that you have no farking clue who the hell are Neturei Karta and what they stand for. I suggest some googling, no need to embarrass yourself further



Why don't you direct us to some of your favorite Neturei Karta HATE websites, Tappy?


TappingTheVein: Ah so you didn't know he blames 'the zionist conspiracies' on WWII, WWI, The Holocaust, 9/11 and everything i else pointed out ?



Well, as the "zionist conspiracies" preceded " WWII, WWI, The Holocaust, 9/11 and everything i else" you pointed out, I could hardly blame the "zionist conspiracies" on these events, could I?


/cue weeping / gnashing of teeth
 
2012-10-10 03:14:17 AM  

Amos Quito: LOL! Predictable as sunrise.


It sure was that you were wrong again. I'm sure you adore Neturei Karta, you share so much in common.

Amos Quito: The REAL money is in industrial espionage.


Of course it is. Just like it is REAL was that Jews were the masterminds behind WWII, WWI, The Holocaust, 9/11 and JFK's assassination.

Amos Quito: LOL again! Tappy is a Zionist, a hard-core die-hard supporter of a political movement that has managed to do what Hitler only dreamed of doing: "Rounding up" nearly half of the world's Jewish population and planting them in the most hostile, dangerous position imaginable. They're sitting ducks, waddling and quacking, seemingly oblivious to the fate that awaits them.

And he has the chutzpah to assert that Zionism is "good for the Jews"?


Right, right, the fate that awaits them. I'm sure you salivate at the thought of this fate. Too bad your harbingers of Jew Doom failed so spectacularly in every attempt to deliver this fate. One can hope, right ?

Amos Quito: Great. Now I'll have to insist on cites every time the Egg Nog card is played.


let's start shall we ? was WWII part of a 'zionist conspiracy' ? yes or no ?

Amos Quito: The Neturei Karta are wise enough to know what almost ALL Jews knew prior to WWII: That Zionism is a BAD IDEA that will end BADLY for all involved - ESPECIALLY the Jews.


Neturei Karta are an insane cult of lunatics shunned by every other jewish group, i bet you think they are wise. Like you they pray for the destruction of Israel.

Amos Quito: Were it not for Hitler, Zionism would have FAILED. Hitler may have been bad for the Jews, but to the Zionists he was a Godsend.


Ok, so did the 'zionists' orchestrated WWII ? How about the Holocaust ? these are yes or no questions.

Amos Quito: Why don't you direct us to some of your favorite Neturei Karta HATE websites, Tappy?


Huh ? are you that ignorant of what they are and what they stand for ? Here, enjoy this Neturei karta image on how to successfully kiss the ass of anyone who poses a threat to Israel.

Amos Quito: Well, as the "zionist conspiracies" preceded " WWII, WWI, The Holocaust, 9/11 and everything i else" you pointed out, I could hardly blame the "zionist conspiracies" on these events, could I?


Too bad that you already did.

AmosQuito: I shudder at the thought - but then I have to wonder, were it not for the horrors suffered by European Jews under the Nazis - literally driving these poor souls from their homes and into the Promised Land, would the Zionists have EVER been able to gather enough Jews in Palestine to form a viable Jewish State?

Frankly, I don't see how.


Remember, he's only asking questions here folks! Then we can move to you blaming 'the zionists' for 9/11.
 
2012-10-10 02:24:45 PM  
Okay Tappy, I have said repeatedly that Zionism was a bad idea from the outset. That it was bad for Jews, and will end horribly for everyone involved. Not that I want it that way, but some things are all too obvious.

You incessantly regurgitate lies, trying to paint me as a "Jew hater". If this were true, why would I not be cheering you along in your Jewicidal scheme? I' mean, you've take the time and trouble to carefully soak yourselves in Zionist gasoline - if I really hated Jews (as you suggest), why wouldn't I be handing you a book of matches?

You, OTOH, seem to assert that Zionism has somehow been beneficial to Jews, that the squirrel setting up housekeeping in a FARKING HORNETS NEST and corralling half of the world's Jews onto a vulnerable, tiny sliver of land where they are SURROUNDED by enemies that the Zionists have worked their asses of to make... you seem to think that this is somehow GOOD for Jews, right?

Well frankly, I don't see it. I don't see how this crazy Zionist scheme can possibly benefit ANYONE, least of all Jews.

Would you be so kind as to explain? Can you tell me, please, how Zionism has or will or even might POTENTIALLY be good for Jews? Because as much as I'd like to, I'm afraid that I just don't see it.

Enlighten me, won't you Tappy? Or if you feel incapable, ask someone who can.

Thanks in advance.
 
2012-10-10 03:18:47 PM  

Amos Quito: Okay Tappy, I have said repeatedly that Zionism was a bad idea from the outset. That it was bad for Jews, and will end horribly for everyone involved. Not that I want it that way, but some things are all too obvious.

You incessantly regurgitate lies, trying to paint me as a "Jew hater". If this were true, why would I not be cheering you along in your Jewicidal scheme? I' mean, you've take the time and trouble to carefully soak yourselves in Zionist gasoline - if I really hated Jews (as you suggest), why wouldn't I be handing you a book of matches?

You, OTOH, seem to assert that Zionism has somehow been beneficial to Jews, that the squirrel setting up housekeeping in a FARKING HORNETS NEST and corralling half of the world's Jews onto a vulnerable, tiny sliver of land where they are SURROUNDED by enemies that the Zionists have worked their asses of to make... you seem to think that this is somehow GOOD for Jews, right?

Well frankly, I don't see it. I don't see how this crazy Zionist scheme can possibly benefit ANYONE, least of all Jews.

Would you be so kind as to explain? Can you tell me, please, how Zionism has or will or even might POTENTIALLY be good for Jews? Because as much as I'd like to, I'm afraid that I just don't see it.

Enlighten me, won't you Tappy? Or if you feel incapable, ask someone who can.

Thanks in advance.


You know, i can point out how you ignored the simple yes or no questions i asked about your insane anti-semitic conspiracy bullshiat, how you ignored my previous post where i show your anti-semitic conspiracy insanity in all its glory and your extreme ignorance and lying bullshiat, how you evade and squirm hilariously so you can say like a retarded child "but i never said that! see ?" when you're 'just asking questions here' when you blame the 'zionists' for 9/11, JFK's murder, WWII and WWI, the Holocaust and your new achievement in this thread: claiming that The Protocols of the learned Elders of Zion has truth in it.
Not directly of course, even though a scarecrow with down syndrome can see what you're doing here, you think this somehow is a genius way of evading being accused for your blatant anti-semitism.

Instead i'll state a simple fact: Israel exists, will continue to exist, no matter what anti-semite sacks of shiat like yourself think, or crazy sects of insane lunatics like Neturei Karta think which you adore (they by the way are cheering for Israel's destruction, but you don't right ? oh no, no sir. you just think they are, um, wise.)
 
2012-10-10 05:11:07 PM  

TappingTheVein: You know, i can point out how you ignored the simple yes or no questions i asked about your insane anti-semitic conspiracy bullshiat



Wait, you were SERIOUS?

Those questions were SO LOADED and SO STUPID that I assumed they must have been merely a half-assed attempt at rhetoric.

Here we go:

TappingTheVein: Amos Quito: Great. Now I'll have to insist on cites every time the Egg Nog card is played.

let's start shall we ? was WWII part of a 'zionist conspiracy' ? yes or no ?



NO.


TappingTheVein: Amos Quito: Were it not for Hitler, Zionism would have FAILED. Hitler may have been bad for the Jews, but to the Zionists he was a Godsend.

Ok, so did the 'zionists' orchestrated WWII ? How about the Holocaust ? these are yes or no questions.



NO and NO.

There. Simple yes or no answers. Happy, Tappy?


TappingTheVein: Too bad that you already did.



Oooh! Tappy lies? What a surprise! I'm SHOCKED!


TappingTheVein: Remember, he's only asking questions here folks! Then we can move to you blaming 'the zionists' for 9/11.



LOL! So now you are blaming ME for what your Fearless Leader Netanyahu said? LOL!


There, I've answered your stupid questions (AGAIN!), so will you kindly answer mine?

REPEAT:

You, OTOH, seem to assert that Zionism has somehow been beneficial to Jews, that the squirrel setting up housekeeping in a FARKING HORNETS NEST and corralling half of the world's Jews onto a vulnerable, tiny sliver of land where they are SURROUNDED by enemies that the Zionists have worked their asses of to make... you seem to think that this is somehow GOOD for Jews, right?

Well frankly, I don't see it. I don't see how this crazy Zionist scheme can possibly benefit ANYONE, least of all Jews.

Would you be so kind as to explain? Can you tell me, please, how Zionism has or will or even might POTENTIALLY be good for Jews? Because as much as I'd like to, I'm afraid that I just don't see it.

Enlighten me, won't you Tappy? Or if you feel incapable, ask someone who can.

Thanks in advance.

And if you are incapable of forming a response, please go find a responsible adult who might be able to help you.
 
2012-10-10 06:08:07 PM  

Amos Quito: Wait, you were SERIOUS?

Those questions were SO LOADED and SO STUPID that I assumed they must have been merely a half-assed attempt at rhetoric.


You were serious when you, um, 'hinted' that a 'Zionist Conspiracy' is afoot as linked and quoted by you above.

Amos Quito: let's start shall we ? was WWII part of a 'zionist conspiracy' ? yes or no ?


NO.


Pure genius, bolding the specific phrase and since you didn't um, hin this exact specific aspect of the conspiracy you're in the clear.

Amos Quito: Ok, so did the 'zionists' orchestrated WWII ? How about the Holocaust ? these are yes or no questions.


NO and NO.


Like i said, pure genius. If your'e an infantile retard. Bolding 'orchestrated' and since you don't think they orchestrated but merely, what was it, used for their benefit ? you're in the clear.

Fair enough. Then explain what exactly do you mean here when you refer to the Holocaust as 'Zionist Fathers broke a few eggs to make their kosher omelet' when you refer to the Holocaust.

Why do you blame the Jews for the Holocaust here ?

here's my fav part: AmosQuito "Please bear in mind that the Zionist plot preceded the HolocaustTM by some 40 years, that Herzl offered to pay the NATIONAL DEBT [!] of the Ottomans if they would allow the place to be flooded with European Jews (rejected), and that the Balfour Declaration was a quid pro quo in which Britain promised Rothschild (Zionist leader) a chunk of Palestine IN EXCHANGE for the support of the Zionists - 20 years BEFORE WWII began - a move which altered the course of WWI in favor of the Allies.

The Germans noticed, and felt betrayed. It pissed them off. This created much animosity between ethnic Germans and Jews, and set the stage for the conflict that would culminate in the Holocaust."


of course people call you out for your bullshiat in the following posts which is hilarious.

You blaming the Jews, i'm sorry, the Zionists for WWI and WWII, please explain what do you mean by "There was a LOT of political skulduggery that went on behind the scenes that most people are unaware of, and the mere mention of these things is certain to bring out troops of poo-flinging monkeys.", please by all means explain this jewish "skulduggery".

You blaming, AmosQuito style, them Zionists for Kennedy assassination. if not then please by all means explain this interesting post.

Oh you must be hating Google site search by now with all your anti-semitic insanity wide open. You do know that Google was founded by jews right ? buhahahaha!

Why haven't you touched the part where you blamed the Je, sorry, Zionists for 9/11 ? if not then explain your weird reference there to the Israelis in that context, i'll ignore for now that you're a batshiat insane truther.

Amos Quito: LOL! So now you are blaming ME for what your Fearless Leader Netanyahu said? LOL!


blaming you ? are you stupid and a liar ? i simply point out your 9/11 Conspiracy insanity.

I'll make this easier for you: are the Zionists in some form connected to the 9/11 conspiracy ? you do think it's a conspiracy right ? or was it your evil twin brother who posted in this thread ?

Amos Quito: You, OTOH, seem to assert that Zionism has somehow been beneficial to Jews


Never said that, this is just one of your lies.
I'm saying that Israel existence is a fact, like it or not. And it's not going away no matter how hard you or your buddies at Neturei Karta wish for it.
I think Israel would have been better located not near insane arab jihadists but this is reality and apparently some people have a problem grasping reality when Israel is involved.

Despite everything Israel in it's current form has prospered and succeeded, i bet that pisses you off a lot like it pisses off some Arab countries in Israel's vicinity.
 
2012-10-10 07:49:43 PM  

TappingTheVein: Amos Quito: Wait, you were SERIOUS?

Those questions were SO LOADED and SO STUPID that I assumed they must have been merely a half-assed attempt at rhetoric.

You were serious when you, um, 'hinted' that a 'Zionist Conspiracy' is afoot as linked and quoted by you above.

Amos Quito: let's start shall we ? was WWII part of a 'zionist conspiracy' ? yes or no ?


NO.

Pure genius, bolding the specific phrase and since you didn't um, hin this exact specific aspect of the conspiracy you're in the clear.

Amos Quito: Ok, so did the 'zionists' orchestrated WWII ? How about the Holocaust ? these are yes or no questions.


NO and NO.

Like i said, pure genius. If your'e an infantile retard. Bolding 'orchestrated' and since you don't think they orchestrated but merely, what was it, used for their benefit ?



There is no doubt that the Zionists saw the Nazi mistreatment of Jews as ultimately benefiting their cause.

The famous Jewish historian Martin Gilbert quotes Shabtai Teveth, Ben Gurion's official biographer (from one of the links you supplied - thanks!)

QUOTE (brackets mine):

Mr. Teveth is in no doubt that in regard to rescue [of the Jews from the Nazis], Ben-Gurion adhered to a 'philosophy of what might be called the beneficial disaster.' [That would be the Holocaust] This is almost exactly what the British playwright Jim Allen accused Ben-Gurion of in his play 'Perdition,' which recently aroused such indignation among British Jews, myself included.

END QUOTE

BUT WAIT - THERE'S MORE

Martin Gilbert (again)

QUOTE: (new window)

It was only in the early summer of 1944 that the Jewish Agency leaders in Jerusalem realized the full extent of the disaster. Ben-Gurion at once intervened directly with the British authorities in Palestine to try to save the Jews of Hungary, then being deported to Auschwitz, by urging the British to follow up the Gestapo offer of ''blood for goods.'' Here again, surprisingly, Mr. Teveth does not refer to Ben-Gurion's personal appeal to the British High Commissioner in Palestine for acceptance of the Nazi offer (on May 26, 1944). Instead, in a sentence dark with the potential for misuse, Mr. Teveth writes: ''Two facts can be definitively stated: Ben-Gurion did not put the rescue effort above Zionist politics, and he did not regard it as a principal task demanding his personal leadership; he never saw fit to explain why, then or later.'' It was not rescue, says Teveth, but the rallying of world Jewry and especially Palestinian Jewry to the creation of a Jewish state, to which Ben-Gurion ''devoted his efforts.'' Here we have an oversimplification of motive that may not be sustained by the evidence, for Mr. Teveth abandons at this point in his narrative the rigorous scrutiny of Ben-Gurion's day-to-day thoughts and activities that is so impressive a feature of this book in the period up to 1940.

END QUOTE

Note the underlined, you duped fool. Your ancestors were seen as disposable pawns by Ben Gurion and the ZioBoys. What makes you think that the current generation of Zionists sees you as anything other than a tool?

You see, Tappy, that is the difference between you and I. I base everything I write on FACTS provided by extremely reputable and irrefutable sources (Martin Gilbert is a world-renown Jewish historian, you understand). I've done my research, I KNOW what vicious, heartless scumbags the Zionist leaders were, and that they cared NOT for the lives of a few (or a few million) unimportant Jews IF it meant that they could accomplish their primary goal of establishing a Zionist political state IN PALESTINE and populating it with idiots (like you) and others who had no place else to go.

And there you are - a fool in a land of fools - valiantly defending those who would spitefully use you.

Tisk tisk.

TappingTheVein: Fair enough. Then explain what exactly do you mean here when you refer to the Holocaust as 'Zionist Fathers broke a few eggs to make their kosher omelet' when you refer to the Holocaust.


I think I just answered that above, didn't I?


TappingTheVein: Why do you blame the Jews for the Holocaust here ?



Why don't you just read the links. The answers are all there, and all very clear. Are you so bound up in your hysterical Zionist rage that you can't read and see for yourself?


TappingTheVein: here's my fav part: AmosQuito "Please bear in mind that the Zionist plot preceded the HolocaustTM by some 40 years, that Herzl offered to pay the NATIONAL DEBT [!] of the Ottomans if they would allow the place to be flooded with European Jews (rejected), and that the Balfour Declaration was a quid pro quo in which Britain promised Rothschild (Zionist leader) a chunk of Palestine IN EXCHANGE for the support of the Zionists - 20 years BEFORE WWII began - a move which altered the course of WWI in favor of the Allies.

The Germans noticed, and felt betrayed. It pissed them off. This created much animosity between ethnic Germans and Jews, and set the stage for the conflict that would culminate in the Holocaust."



Is there anything in the above that you believe is factually incorrect? If so, point it out, and we'll discuss it.

If not, then WTF are you biatching about? Facts are facts, Tappy.


TappingTheVein: of course people call you out for your bullshiat in the following posts which is hilarious.



Yeah, well like you, tirob failed to understand the point I was making, and also has a poor understanding of the part that Zionists played in the times. No surprise there. But I will say one thing for tirob, at least he's not intentionally dishonest. Wish I could say the same about you, Tappy.


TappingTheVein: You blaming the Jews, i'm sorry, the Zionists for WWI and WWII, please explain what do you mean by "There was a LOT of political skulduggery that went on behind the scenes that most people are unaware of, and the mere mention of these things is certain to bring out troops of poo-flinging monkeys.", please by all means explain this jewish "skulduggery".



See? That's what I mean. You seem utterly incapable of asking even a simple question without dishonestly attaching some BUZZWORD that you hope (against hope) I will miss so that you can FINALLY put some TEETH in you endless (hollow) accusations of "ANTI-SEMITE!"

You're a pathetic chap, Tappy. Pitiable.


TappingTheVein: Amos Quito: LOL! So now you are blaming ME for what your Fearless Leader Netanyahu said? LOL!

blaming you ? are you stupid and a liar ? i simply point out your 9/11 Conspiracy insanity.



Yeah, a link to a news report about Netanyahu saying that Israel is benefiting from the 9-11 attacks and the American war on Iraq. Bibi said it, I just posted the link.

I assume that you post these links hoping that no one will actually click on them but will accept your lying accusations at face value. Well here's a clue, Tappy: You and I are likely the only ones reading this thread, and you're not fooling me, so what DO you think you're accomplishing with your lowbrow lying bullshiat?

Hmmm?

TappingTheVein: Amos Quito: You, OTOH, seem to assert that Zionism has somehow been beneficial to Jews

Never said that, this is just one of your lies.



Oh, so you DON'T believe that Zionism is or has been beneficial to Jews? Am I reading you correctly here?

Why then, pray tell, are you so hell-bent on supporting a politcal system that is so clearly working against the best interests of the people you identify with, Tappy?

TappingTheVein: I'm saying that Israel existence is a fact, like it or not. And it's not going away no matter how hard you or your buddies at Neturei Karta wish for it.
I think Israel would have been better located not near insane arab jihadists but this is reality and apparently some people have a problem grasping reality when Israel is involved.

Despite everything Israel in it's current form has prospered and succeeded, i bet that pisses you off a lot like it pisses off some Arab countries in Israel's vicinity.



I would wish for everyone in the region to get along as neighbors - to abandon their intolerant, expansionist, vindictive and racist attitudes. I would like to see all of you ASSIMILATE into one anther's cultures, as that is the ONLY way that there could ever be peace. But I am also practical, and know that it was not the fear of Jewish persecution that drove the Zionists on their insane quest, but the fear of ASSIMILATION.

So I guess the hope for peace in the ME is pretty damn fanciful. Sad.

Anyway, I'm glad that you spend as much time as you do re-reading the wonderfully educational material that I post, and I would hope that you follow the links that I provide in my cites - because if you do, you can't help but become enlightened - at least to some degree, and god knows that if there is one thing the Middle East could use, it is enlightenment.

Good night, Tappy.
 
2012-10-11 03:00:53 AM  

Amos Quito: There is no doubt that the Zionists saw the Nazi mistreatment of Jews as ultimately benefiting their cause.

The famous Jewish historian Martin Gilbert quotes Shabtai Teveth, Ben Gurion's official biographer (from one of the links you supplied - thanks!)

QUOTE (brackets mine):

Mr. Teveth is in no doubt that in regard to rescue [of the Jews from the Nazis], Ben-Gurion adhered to a 'philosophy of what might be called the beneficial disaster.' [That would be the Holocaust] This is almost exactly what the British playwright Jim Allen accused Ben-Gurion of in his play 'Perdition,' which recently aroused such indignation among British Jews, myself included.

END QUOTE

BUT WAIT - THERE'S MORE

Martin Gilbert (again)

QUOTE: (new window)

It was only in the early summer of 1944 that the Jewish Agency leaders in Jerusalem realized the full extent of the disaster. Ben-Gurion at once intervened directly with the British authorities in Palestine to try to save the Jews of Hungary, then being deported to Auschwitz, by urging the British to follow up the Gestapo offer of ''blood for goods.'' Here again, surprisingly, Mr. Teveth does not refer to Ben-Gurion's personal appeal to the British High Commissioner in Palestine for acceptance of the Nazi offer (on May 26, 1944). Instead, in a sentence dark with the potential for misuse, Mr. Teveth writes: ''Two facts can be definitively stated: Ben-Gurion did not put the rescue effort above Zionist politics, and he did not regard it as a principal task demanding his personal leadership; he never saw fit to explain why, then or later.'' It was not rescue, says Teveth, but the rallying of world Jewry and especially Palestinian Jewry to the creation of a Jewish state, to which Ben-Gurion ''devoted his efforts.'' Here we have an oversimplification of motive that may not be sustained by the evidence, for Mr. Teveth abandons at this point in his narrative the rigorous scrutiny of Ben-Gurion's day-to-day thoughts and activities that is so imp ...


Already debunked your out of context misleading lying bullshiat about Ben-Gurion, Martin Gilbert, etc.
You need new anti-semitic material.

Amos Quito: Is there anything in the above that you believe is factually incorrect? If so, point it out, and we'll discuss it.


Factually incorrect would be an understatement, it's utter total bullshiat as explained to you in detail in this thread.

Amos Quito: If not, then WTF are you biatching about? Facts are facts, Tappy.


Anti-semitic conspiracy insanity is anti-semitic conspiracy insanity.

Amos Quito: See? That's what I mean. You seem utterly incapable of asking even a simple question without dishonestly attaching some BUZZWORD that you hope (against hope) I will miss so that you can FINALLY put some TEETH in you endless (hollow) accusations of "ANTI-SEMITE!"

You're a pathetic chap, Tappy. Pitiable.


And you squirm your way out of addressing your anti-semitic bullshiat brought here in all its bullshiat glory.

Amos Quito: Yeah, a link to a news report about Netanyahu saying that Israel is benefiting from the 9-11 attacks and the American war on Iraq. Bibi said it, I just posted the link.

I assume that you post these links hoping that no one will actually click on them but will accept your lying accusations at face value. Well here's a clue, Tappy: You and I are likely the only ones reading this thread, and you're not fooling me, so what DO you think you're accomplishing with your lowbrow lying bullshiat?

Hmmm?


And squirm pathetically away from addressing why you brought that link about israelis and 9/11 to your 9/11 conspiracy thread.

Amos Quito: Oh, so you DON'T believe that Zionism is or has been beneficial to Jews? Am I reading you correctly here?

Why then, pray tell, are you so hell-bent on supporting a politcal system that is so clearly working against the best interests of the people you identify with, Tappy?


And ignoring how i brought proof that you claimed (in your pathetic way of course) the 'Zionist Conspiracy' in the background of WWII and the Holocaust. How did you say this ? they had to break a few eggs for their kosher omelette eh ? bhahaha..

Amos Quito: I would wish for everyone in the region to get along as neighbors - to abandon their intolerant, expansionist, vindictive and racist attitudes. I would like to see all of you ASSIMILATE into one anther's cultures, as that is the ONLY way that there could ever be peace. But I am also practical, and know that it was not the fear of Jewish persecution that drove the Zionists on their insane quest, but the fear of ASSIMILATION.


Oh yeah, the Europeans were busy, um, assimilating Jews in pogroms, ovens, anti-semitism in general etc.

Amos Quito: Anyway, I'm glad that you spend as much time as you do re-reading the wonderfully educational material that I post, and I would hope that you follow the links that I provide in my cites - because if you do, you can't help but become enlightened - at least to some degree, and god knows that if there is one thing the Middle East could use, it is enlightenment.


I'm glad you avoided addressing your blatant anti-semitic drivel posted here in all its glory, your lying bullshiat again debunked here in all its glory, how you sidestepped and squirmed your way out of addressing my post like your 9/11 conspiracy claims, JFK's assassination Zionist conspiracy and the rest.

Like i said, i bet you are not fond of Google site search. You can't erase your past posts and they are easy accessed with a simple search.
Do you blame the jews for that as well ? after all, like i said, they created Google.
 
2012-10-11 04:25:57 PM  

Amos Quito: /A drone launched by Lebanon?
//I smell a false-flag
///Shiat is heating up


Amos Quito: That's what false-flags are for, right?


I smell your bullshiat again.
 
2012-10-11 05:14:58 PM  

TappingTheVein: Amos Quito: /A drone launched by Lebanon?
//I smell a false-flag
///Shiat is heating up

Amos Quito: That's what false-flags are for, right?

I smell your bullshiat again.



Well, what do you know? It WASN'T an Israeli false-flag op after all!

My hunch was mistaken. But at lest I didn't lie, right Tappy?

From your link:

"Israel routinely sends F-16s into over Lebanon, breaking the sound barrier over Beirut and other places as a show of strength."

So Israel ROUTINELY sends fully armed (American gifted) F-16's over Lebanon - cracking windows with their sonic booms in an attempt to perpetially terrorize their neighbors?

And yet they get their knickers in a twist when Hizbulaah flies an unarmed overrated model airplane over the Zionist State?

How hypocritically typical.

Anyway, ignoring your links (that go to links that go to links that go to nowhere) claiming that all of the statements I have made have been debunked, I feel like our travail in this thread may not have been entirely in vain.

After all, above you tacitly agreed that Zionism is NOT a good thing for Jews (or at least you could not provide any example of how it has benefited Jews) and you made it through the night without your head exploding, so I feel like we've made a major breakthrough here.

Now that you've caught a glimpse of your new perspective, in future threads we should focus on helping you to break free of the destructive cycle of dependence that you have been caught up in thanks to your addiction to Zionism. Once you're free, you'll be able to help others who are suffering to break free as well.


"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step"
-- Lao-tzu, Chinese philosopher
 
2012-10-11 05:58:08 PM  

Amos Quito: Well, what do you know? It WASN'T an Israeli false-flag op after all!

My hunch was mistaken. But at lest I didn't lie, right Tappy?


Regarding the drone ? no, you just naturally assumed those shifty Jews are scheming again.
About the rest as explained in detail in my posts ? yes, yes you did.

Amos Quito: "Israel routinely sends F-16s into over Lebanon, breaking the sound barrier over Beirut and other places as a show of strength."

So Israel ROUTINELY sends fully armed (American gifted) F-16's over Lebanon - cracking windows with their sonic booms in an attempt to perpetially terrorize their neighbors?


Yes, after said neighbors crapped all over the cease-fire agreement the moment the war was over.

Amos Quito: Anyway, ignoring your links (that go to links that go to links that go to nowhere)


If by nowhere you mean going to detail debunking of your anti-semitic bullshiat, then yes you are correct. the links are a hilarious reminder how you repeat the same crap over and over again even when the proof, in detail, debunking your bullshiat is in your face.

Amos Quito: claiming that all of the statements I have made have been debunked, I feel like our travail in this thread may not have been entirely in vain.


Not at all in vain, i have a nice summary of all you anti-semitic bullshiat, conspiracy nuttery, lies and ignorance and with the added bonus of you claiming that the Protocols are not a forgery.
Going for the classics of anti-semitism bullcrap i see.

Naturally you ignored again the 9/11 conspiracy, blaming 'the zionists' on JFK's murder, the 'zionist conspiracy' leading to WWII, you blaming the Jews on the Holocaust (this is my fav) etc and so on. how shockingly surprising.

Amos Quito: After all, above you tacitly agreed that Zionism is NOT a good thing for Jews (or at least you could not provide any example of how it has benefited Jews)


No i didn't agree, you lie again, and yes i did provide an example by stating a fact: despite everything Israel in it's current form has prospered and succeeded.

Amos Quito: so I feel like we've made a major breakthrough here.


Definitely. I don't think i have a single thread with all your anti-semitic bullshiat in detail like this one. Good future reference.

Amos Quito: Now that you've caught a glimpse of your new perspective, in future threads we should focus on helping you to break free of the destructive cycle of dependence that you have been caught up in thanks to your addiction to Zionism. Once you're free, you'll be able to help others who are suffering to break free as well.


"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step"
-- Lao-tzu, Chinese philosopher


"It is better to be silent and thought to be ignorant then to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
-R. G. Risch
 
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