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(Newsweek)   Many people have claimed near-death experiences, but few are as interesting or detailed as that of one neurosurgeon who describes seven days spent in Heaven while his brain was completely inactive   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 543
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2012-10-09 12:33:29 AM

AbbeySomeone: Babwa Wawa: me texan:
Attitudes like yours are why more people don't share their experiences. If it hasn't happened to you or it's something you can't imagine or understand it isn't real, right?


Why yes, just the other day I was thinking "Oh, my, this interweb thing will likely shut down soon b/c so few people want to share their ideas and experiences." Sad, really.
 
2012-10-09 12:38:09 AM

DeadGeek: FTFA: "When first I saw her, we were riding along together on an intricately patterned surface"

[dettoldisney.files.wordpress.com image 399x236]


This one time, I did so many whippets...
 
2012-10-09 12:41:20 AM

ToeKnee666: JuddyBuddy77: DMT

I was going to say the same thing. Sounds exactly like my most intense DMT experience. But I wonder if this guy, with his rightward turn toward believing it was "heaven" at the end of the article, would dismiss these experiences since they don't line up with his pre-determined outcome.

I mean, if you read any of the druggy lit you'll find something in common between this story and the most lucid of their claims.


an endogenous release of DMT from the pineal gland is an amazing and revealing experience

mine lasted for days (calculated in retrospect, of course)

seen the other side
pretty darn cool

is it real or is it memorex?

don't know/don't care

there was no beginning
there will be no end
glory to now the highest
there are worlds without end

Amen
 
2012-10-09 01:37:55 AM
In a nutshell, the problem with trying to discuss this sort of thing, is this:

McCoy: Perhaps, we could cover a little philosophical ground. Life
[pause]
McCoy: Death
[pause]
McCoy: Life.
[pause]
McCoy: Things of that nature.
Spock: I did not have time on Vulcan to review the philosophical disciplines.
McCoy: C'mon, Spock, it's me, McCoy. You really have gone where no man's gone before. Can't you tell me what it felt like?
Spock: It would be impossible to discuss the subject without a common frame-of-reference.
McCoy: You're joking!
Spock: A joke
[pause]
Spock: is a story with a humorous climax.
McCoy: You mean I have to die to discuss your insights on death?
Spock: Forgive me, Doctor. I am receiving a number of distress calls.
McCoy: I don't doubt it.
 
2012-10-09 02:00:22 AM

Rik01: I like to believe that a higher power designed and enabled all of this. Call it Intelligent Design. I also like to believe that when we die, we can be born again as someone else. Reincarnation. I figure that over the billions of years we've existed, even Heaven would tend to get full with the trillions of souls streaming there.


Maybe we're all Sims.

/ at least the railing in swimming pools I've been in didn't magically disappear.....
 
2012-10-09 02:52:52 AM
I've experienced deja vu. Very weird. Until someone figured out that the brain normally routes sensations to short term memory and then picks and chooses which to pass on to long term memory. Except when this momentarily breaks down, and the experience is sent to long term memory in parallel, and saved while short term memory is still processing. Short term memory then tries to forward to long term memory except that the memory is already there, creating two copies of the same event in long term memory. Hence the deja vu effect. We haven't learned every thing about the brain, but my money is on science over religion.

My real question is this- If he really, really, really, believes 'heaven' is so wonderful, why didn't he
immediate kill himself to get back to it?
As a doctor, why is he still saving lives and denying his patients the peace of the afterlife?


Old joke, but makes my point

An 85-year-old couple, having been married almost 60 years, died in a car crash. They had been in good health the last 10 years, mainly due to the wife's interest in health food and exercise.

When they reached the Pearly Gates, St. Peter took them to their mansion, which was decked out with a beautiful kitchen and master bath suite and Jacuzzi.

As they "oohed and aahed," the old man asked Peter how much all this was going to cost.

"It's free," Peter replied, "this is Heaven."

Next they went out back to survey the championship golf course that the home backed up to. They would have golfing privileges every day, and each week the course changed to a new one, representing the great golf courses on Earth. The old man asked, "What are the green fees?"

Peter's reply, "This is Heaven, you play for free."

Next they went to the club house and saw the lavish buffet lunch with the cuisines of the world laid out.

"How much to eat?" asked the old man. "Don't you understand yet? This is Heaven, it's free!" Peter replied with some exasperation.

"Well, where are the low-fat and low-cholesterol tables?" the old man asked timidly.

Peter lectured, "That's the best part -- you can eat as much as you like of whatever you like, and you never get fat or sick. This is Heaven."

With that the old man went into a fit of anger, throwing down his hat and stomping on it, shrieking wildly.

Peter and his wife both tried to calm him down, asking him what was wrong.

The old man looked at his wife and said, "This is all your fault. If it weren't for your bran muffins, I could have been here 10 years ago!"
 
2012-10-09 03:31:04 AM

Rapmaster2000: I've been to hell. That is Satan's V6 Mustang. He's the manager.


Bwahahaha!!!!
 
2012-10-09 04:10:41 AM

prekrasno: I doubt the human interpretations of experiences like these, mainly because every one I've ever heard was from a person who was already a Christian, or reared in church but "fell away" as an adult. Their (and our) understanding of the genuine experience just might be tainted by what they already know. Where are the near-death experiences from people who have never been to church, or never knew about Christianity? Where are the converted Muslims, Jews, or Zoroastrians who became Christians after their own NDE's? Good on this man who reaffirmed his faith as a result of his experience; I don't denigrate him for that -- although I have no reason to disbelieve NDE's, I do doubt anyone who uses these as examples of proof of one religion or another.


Hey there. Um. An old fark article about miners trapped below ground and awaiting death - somebody posted a link to:

Nderf.org

Take it for what you will.. it's been up for a few years. I'm positive that some portion of it is bald faced lies, some more is people lying to themselves and then an unknown percentage of what might be termed authentic.

/based on my reading, people tend to see what they expect.
 
2012-10-09 04:18:04 AM

Neverbody: Tweet of God:
99.9999% of all near death experiences end in death.


*internet high five*
 
2012-10-09 06:26:51 AM
www.clubchopper.com
 
2012-10-09 07:12:18 AM

bogey: After reading this guy's resume I seriously doubt he's doing this to sell books or make money. He's already well paid and professionally respected. Opening himself up to ridicule by his peers for a few bucks makes no sense. I have no idea what happened to this guy but I have no problem believing he is sincere.


I'm sure this guy's CV that you linked to is easily verifiable, and the site that's hosting it is in no way biased.
 
2012-10-09 08:42:58 AM

crazyeddie: You know how I know you have no idea what the null hypothesis is?


i like bacon

Farking Canuck: There are several good theories but, because of the difficulty and ethics of reproducing this, we may never be able to get definitive answers.


such as? why is there difficulty and "ethics" in reproducing theories? has science become taboo?

oh we will most certainly get definitive answers, unfortunately for most, it will be too little too late

i guarantee on the day of Judgement there will not be a single atheist-agnostic

however concerning this "near" death stuff, i meant there is probably actually a scientific explanation for that stuff, as in going into some coma like state of hallucination with possibly some non-physical stuff jumping into the mix, but probably not actually full transference from one state to the next

according to my theory no humans have been to Heaven yet (with some rare few exceptions being able to see it) and currently anyone who dies or nearly dies would only be able to witness paradise or some other state of limbo, but that still doesn't rule out the higher probability of seeing some sort of self induced dream or hallucination cause by major brain malfunctions yet possibly still clinging to the faintest signal of life

Farking Canuck: /I know ... you were hoping that because science cannot answer it then we will all start believing in magic.
//Sorry. The god-of-the-gaps is near death himself and I say good riddance


/wrong, i hope you believe in magic even when science can answer some stuff but not everything
//you sound tired, but good luck with your science of the gaps
 
2012-10-09 08:44:53 AM
I once went through this after dying on the operating table.

There was a huge room, only it seemed very little, with high expansive beams made out of some sort of transparent material, which was glowing. I was surrounded by dolls of various heights and colours. They began their revolting work. They resembled hideous torturers, blood flowing on their hands as they dug ever more deeply into the frigid corpse of a girrafe and pulled out its innards, like white cooks gutting a goose. Around their arms coiled the intestines-green-yellow snakes-and faeces dripped on their coats-a warm, putrid fluid.

They punctured the bladder, the cold urine in it glistening like yellow wine. They poured it in large bowls, and it reeked of pungent, acrid ammonia. Then suddenly, there was the sound of some angelic violin, only the violin was made out of the screams of a thousand tortured frogs.

There was a fog clearing, and suddenly I was surrounded by Justin Beibers, a trillion of them, shrieking the shriek of the damned, and then they merged into one while the room became like ice. The thing that lay half-bent on its side in a foetid pool of greenish-yellow ichor and tarry stickiness was almost nine feet tall, and a dog had torn off all the clothing and some of the skin. It was not quite dead, but twitched silently and spasmodically while its chest heaved in monstrous unison with the mad piping of the not-violins. Bits of shoe-leather and fragments of apparel were scattered about the room, and just inside the window an empty canvas sack lay where it had evidently been thrown.

Suddenly, the Beiber-thing spoke! "For the love of heaven,' he said nervously, 'don't give my idea such real importance! There's no proof that existence is possible outside of our three ordinary dimensions. Just as we've never discovered any two-dimensional beings from the world of surfaces, or one-dimensional beings from the linear world, we must be indiscernible to beings, if there are any, who live in worlds having more dimensions than ours. I'm in no mood to give you a lesson in hypergeometry, Paulseta, but I'm sure of one thing: there are spaces different from ours."

I wept at this. 'Oh, why did I have to listen to you?' I yelled at the Beiber-thing. 'Now I fear for you. That thing I see poking out of the floor and following me with it's shriek is not a thing. That is a Beiber! It's the thing people fear above all others, in every sea in the world. It's a dreadful and mysterious beast, more cunning than man. For reasons that perhaps no one will ever know, it chooses its victim, and when it has chosen a man, it pursues him for years and years, for a lifetime, until it devours him. And the strange thing is that nobody can see him but the victim himself and blood relations.'

Suddenly, almost on cue, a Nickleback CD began to play from some sort of celestial hi-fi.

To listen to The Nickleback was to lose one's will to the band and forever be the creature's slave. Obedient, the victims rise from the beds, leave the security of their homes and go out in nightclothes, like sleepwalkers, heading toward that band of Hell, which rejoiced in any new prey. The victims go to the band, oblivious of the mud that squelches under their feet, not realising they are padding through the marsh. And the creature will draw back, retreating further to lure its prey into the slimy depths that capture and swallow its victims without mercy.

It was like the noise of a million ears rupturing at once. Terrible, frantic, really annoying.

I started to drift back to the operating table then, and new with certainty that within every living thing is a starlike piece. Those within human beings are bright, and those within children are the brightest of all. As people age, the starlike parts grow dim as though with distance, except in the cases of certain geniuses and halfwits. As I awoke, I asked the surgeon what the time was.

He looked at me, and quietly mumbled: "It's Friday, Friday, gotta get down on Friday. Partying partying yeah. Partying partying yeah."

I am sometimes concerned that I never made it back from the afterlife at all.

My experience of the afterlife may not tie in with the good Doctor's, but it's perfectly valid.
 
2012-10-09 08:57:16 AM

Babwa Wawa: Well, yeah. If one has "proof" of something or another, then one no long needs "faith" in order to believe in it.


One does if one takes their eyes off of something or another.

Evidence only lasts as long as you can touch it with your tongue.
 
2012-10-09 08:59:46 AM

Forbidden Doughnut: Maybe we're all Sims


i have a theory

agilitrix.com
 
2012-10-09 09:32:25 AM

Znuh: logistic: Although I considered myself a faithful Christian

Loses any trace of credibility at this precise point. Not arguing one way or another, but his opinion is nixed by this statement.

This.

I once had a huge Thanksgiving day argument with an ex-Chemist who worked at Dow. He was up in everyone's face with the Religion and the Rapture and everything in between.

I left the discussion absolutely mind-blown over how someone with scientific training could at one hand, accomplish and do things with the Scientific Method and everything that requires you to work at Dow, and then BRAIN OFF and toss everything out the window in one derptacular stroke.


It is disappointing when a scientist comes out of the closet as a derper. Still not as likely as with engineers, doctors, or computer types, in my observation.

/scientist
// not a derper
 
2012-10-09 09:40:21 AM

ELF Radio: RAAAARGH SHUT UP ALL YOU WEAK, SNIVELING BABIES WHO THINK LIFE HAS MEANING OR SOME GAY SHIAT LIKE THAT. WE ARE ANIMAL-MACHINES THAT SPRANG INEXPLICABLY FROM NOTHING AND WE EAT AND FARK AND DIE AND THAT IS ALL. NOTHING ELSE EXISTS AND ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHER WISE IS A LAME DICK WHO CANT DEAL WITH REALITY.

WHY DONT YOU FAIRIES GO BECOME REPUBLICANS AND VOTE FOR MITT ROMENY IF YOU BELIEVE THIS NANCY QUEER AND HIS HALLUCINATROY BULLSHIAT.


Inverse Poe's Law?
 
2012-10-09 09:41:46 AM

GBB: I don't know about you, but I can't trust a guy that got kicked out of heaven within a week.


it took a while, but we have a winner
 
2012-10-09 09:58:32 AM

Hale-Bopp: Sounds like he may have likely experienced a large dose of DMT released by his brain in order to help him cope with the process of dying.


THIS
 
2012-10-09 10:03:40 AM

I drunk what: such as? why is there difficulty and "ethics" in reproducing theories? has science become taboo?


The experiments best suited to test this would have to include killing people and then bringing them back in controlled situations. They would be done solely for the purposes of this experiment to remove all other variables.

In general, in the sane world, killing people to generate some data is considered unethical. I'm not sure how it is in your world.

I drunk what:
/wrong, i hope you believe in magic even when science can answer some stuff but not everything


I will happily believe in magic when there is creditable evidence to support its existence. Funny how in all of recorded human history there is never anything more than anecdotal evidence. Kinda like how the power of god's miracles is inversely proportional to the quality of historical recording of the age ... now that everyone has a camera on a cell phone the best god can do is burn blurry images on toast.

I drunk what:
//you sound tired, but good luck with your science of the gaps


"Science of the Gaps" ... catchy but not really new. All science is directed at closing gaps in our knowledge.

One of the problems with the way religious people think is that they somehow arrogantly think that we deserve answers. While I am all for seeking answers, I accept that for most of the big questions we will not find answers in my lifetime. And I am OK with that.

Somehow the religious seem to think that it is ok to say "Well science can't explain this so that means we were correct when we declared 'It's magic!'". Sorry ... it is not a contest that you can win by default.
 
2012-10-09 10:07:07 AM

xanadian: bogey: After reading this guy's resume I seriously doubt he's doing this to sell books or make money. He's already well paid and professionally respected. Opening himself up to ridicule by his peers for a few bucks makes no sense. I have no idea what happened to this guy but I have no problem believing he is sincere.

I'm sure this guy's CV that you linked to is easily verifiable, and the site that's hosting it is in no way biased.


A quick search confirmed this much and I'm sure I could find more if I tried.
 
2012-10-09 10:10:19 AM
TardiveDyskinesia
I wonder about those things too. I wish it was possible to replay it in a fully conscious state, I'd love to analyze it further. Why is my vision always the same? What scraps does my mind cobble together to create it? How far is my sense of time distorted? Why do I, a generally positive person, have such hellish visions?

The human brain is such an enigma...


Make sure you stick around another couple years; I'll bet by the end of the decade we'll have a way of sticking you in something like an MRI and projecting your mind's eye on a screen.

In the meantime, don't forget that the brain is the master of bullshiatting. It'll construct memories with details that you couldn't possibly know or that couldn't possibly be true, just to provide you with something that makes some kind of logical sense. So, maybe the parts of your brain that detect drowning get activated... The part about your brain spontaneously inventing demons really reminds me of this.

/not a neurosurgeon or psychologist


italie
To all the people shouting "There is no god, you are all fools"....you sound just like all the people shouting "There is a god, your are all fools". Neither of you can prove your points, so just accept that and stop shouting.

Since you're obviously the smartest person here, maybe you can tell us which argument carries the burden of proof?


realityVSperception
I've experienced deja vu. Very weird. Until someone figured out that the brain normally routes sensations to short term memory and then picks and chooses which to pass on to long term memory. Except when this momentarily breaks down, and the experience is sent to long term memory in parallel, and saved while short term memory is still processing. Short term memory then tries to forward to long term memory except that the memory is already there, creating two copies of the same event in long term memory. Hence the deja vu effect.

Yeah, I'm probably going to have all your babies.
 
2012-10-09 10:54:44 AM

Znuh: logistic: Although I considered myself a faithful Christian

Loses any trace of credibility at this precise point. Not arguing one way or another, but his opinion is nixed by this statement.

This.

I once had a huge Thanksgiving day argument with an ex-Chemist who worked at Dow. He was up in everyone's face with the Religion and the Rapture and everything in between.

I left the discussion absolutely mind-blown over how someone with scientific training could at one hand, accomplish and do things with the Scientific Method and everything that requires you to work at Dow, and then BRAIN OFF and toss everything out the window in one derptacular stroke.


meh - i'm a scientist. i'm also a non-believer. however many of my colleagues are religious and absolutely brilliant. It's easy to be cynical, faith isn't supposed to be easy. it's also not really a good metric of relative intelligence.
 
2012-10-09 11:48:40 AM

Honest Bender: FTFA: There is no scientific explanation for the fact that while my body lay in coma, my mind-my conscious, inner self-was alive and well.

There certainly is a scientific explanation. You just don't know what it is. As a scientist (so you claim) it's your responsibility to search for that explanation. Not throw your arms up and just claim, "God did it

I'm sure the guy is very knowledgeable on the topic of the human brain. Certainly he is more knowledgeable than I am. However, he makes a lot of claims in TFA about how this and that is impossible. Well, clearly it isn't.

How convenient... a version of what happened to you that doesn't require hard work and reasearch... GBTW!


Yeah, dude is a neurosurgeon, not a neuroscientist. Huge difference there in understanding and researching how the brain works. And his story proves that he's no scientist.
 
2012-10-09 12:15:24 PM
Well, that settles that, then.

Excuse me while I go sin my ass off, (and yours, too!) because my deathbed profession of faith will get me some hot white chick post-death spirit guide action.
 
2012-10-09 12:48:42 PM

Farking Canuck: I'm not sure how it is in your world.


i'm my world, people have near death and full death experiences all the time, though most of the near death ones don't have much to tell about it, but that doesn't stop us from making theories about them, and i don't foresee any problems with people who experience these things sharing their view with others

in my world you are an idiot

Farking Canuck: Funny how


funny ha ha or funny strange?

Farking Canuck: "Science of the Gaps" ... catchy but not really new.


yep the idiot brigade has been around for quite some time now, but still don't seem to be capable of learning, meh

Farking Canuck: I accept that for most of the big questions we will not find answers in my lifetime. And I am OK with that.


do you think 1,000,000 years from now string theory will be able to explain where multi-verses come from? and who created them?

maybe 1,000,000,000 millenia from now Man will be able to make an educated guess at what his purpose in life is?

unfortunately they will still be debating what morality vs ethics is, and projecting their failures onto religious people

Farking Canuck: Sorry ... it is not a contest that you can win by default.


of course not, all smrt real scientists know that Science wins by default

FOR SCIENCE!!!1!
 
2012-10-09 12:59:40 PM

I drunk what: in my world you are an idiot


I drunk what: yep the idiot brigade has been around for quite some time now, but still don't seem to be capable of learning, meh


I drunk what: unfortunately they will still be debating what morality vs ethics is, and projecting their failures onto religious people


I drunk what: of course not, all smrt real scientists know that Science wins by default

FOR SCIENCE!!!1!


Wow ... nice string of ad hominems and gibberish.

I drunk what: do you think 1,000,000 years from now string theory will be able to explain where multi-verses come from? and who created them?


Maybe. Maybe not. Does it matter? Are you arguing that because there is a gap in our knowledge then god is real and magic exists?!?

I drunk what: maybe 1,000,000,000 millenia from now Man will be able to make an educated guess at what his purpose in life is?


We have to have a purpose? Who says? Is that in your magic book?
 
2012-10-09 01:16:57 PM

Farking Canuck: We have to have a purpose?


yes

Farking Canuck: Who says?


the One that created us

Farking Canuck: Is that in your magic book?


yep

Farking Canuck: Does it matter?


does Science matter? not to everyone

Farking Canuck: Are you arguing that because there is a gap in our knowledge then god is real and magic exists?!?


media.comicvine.com
 
2012-10-09 01:22:33 PM

I drunk what: does Science matter? not to everyone


LOL ... says the guy on the internet.

The rest of your post does not need any comment. Your own words demonstrate how much you eschew reason and independent thought in favor of the circular logic of religion.
 
2012-10-09 01:42:04 PM

Farking Canuck: I drunk what: does Science matter? not to everyone

LOL ... says the guy on the internet.

The rest of your post does not need any comment. Your own words demonstrate how much you eschew reason and independent thought in favor of the circular logic of religion.


in my world, you are an idiot

/tell the brigade i said hi
 
2012-10-09 02:14:48 PM

I drunk what: currently anyone who dies or nearly dies would only be able to witness paradise or some other state of limbo


So, you're saying that when we die, we end up living in the series finale episode of "Lost"?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 
2012-10-09 02:24:40 PM

Farking Canuck: I drunk what: does Science matter? not to everyone

LOL ... says the guy on the internet.

The rest of your post does not need any comment. Your own words demonstrate how much you eschew reason and independent thought in favor of the circular logic of religion.


He's actually entrenched himself in a morally relative position. It's always funny when they do that.
 
2012-10-09 02:41:28 PM

Epicedion: He's actually entrenched himself in a morally relative position


applejack.ponychan.net

funny ha ha or funny strange?
 
2012-10-09 03:13:54 PM

browntimmy: Inhalien:
Yes, I see you're upset and desperately want us all to believe that in the beginning there was nothing but somehow nothing became something (inexplicably?). And if you take big balls of nothing gas and explode them God, then you get something. I see. Nice try, though and good luck with all your nothingGod.


Same thing, only your theory also involves talking snakes and apples of doom.


They're allegorical representations. I also don't believe the earth is 10,000 years old and only took 7 days to create.
 
2012-10-09 03:21:38 PM

Inhalien: Yes, I see you're upset and desperately want us all to believe that in the beginning there was nothing but somehow nothing became something (inexplicably?). And if you take big balls of nothing gas and explode them, then you get something. I see. Nice try, though and good luck with all your nothing.


Why do the religious keep repeating this inane talking point?

Atheists do not claim to know anything. Some atheists feel there may be merit to some of the scientific theories presented. But we do not claim that these theories are 100% correct and by no means do all atheists agree with them at all.

We do not claim to know these answers. It is the religious who claim to know these answers and it is always: "It's magic".
 
2012-10-09 05:42:27 PM

kg2095: The only correct answer on the topic of an afterlife considering the total lack of verifiable evidence is 'I don't know'.


Nonsense. There's an infinity of things I can answer "I don't know" to. Does that mean I need to consider all these infinite possibilities?
 
2012-10-09 05:53:26 PM

Farking Canuck: It is the religious who claim to know these answers and it is always: "It's magic".


www.terrariaonline.com
 
2012-10-09 10:22:42 PM

RanDomino: TardiveDyskinesia
I wonder about those things too. I wish it was possible to replay it in a fully conscious state, I'd love to analyze it further. Why is my vision always the same? What scraps does my mind cobble together to create it? How far is my sense of time distorted? Why do I, a generally positive person, have such hellish visions?

The human brain is such an enigma...

Make sure you stick around another couple years; I'll bet by the end of the decade we'll have a way of sticking you in something like an MRI and projecting your mind's eye on a screen.

In the meantime, don't forget that the brain is the master of bullshiatting. It'll construct memories with details that you couldn't possibly know or that couldn't possibly be true, just to provide you with something that makes some kind of logical sense. So, maybe the parts of your brain that detect drowning get activated... The part about your brain spontaneously inventing demons really reminds me of this.

/not a neurosurgeon or psychologist


Planning to stick around for many more years, and will be standing in line when they figure out how to do this. Ironically, I had an MRI today. Gallbladder giving me fits. But lying in the machine, I was wishing they could look inside my brain and find the video clip.

"Your MRI results are rather unusual, ma'am"
 
2012-10-10 12:16:37 AM

RanDomino: Your sense of 'location' is a biological function of an organic gyroscope which can be messed with.


There's a TED talk by a neuroscientist who had a stoke and lived to tell and document her experiences. One of the most amazing things to her was that she lost the idea of her "self". She couldn't tell where she ended and the rest of the world began. Despite the loss of her faculties this was such an amazing spiritual experience for her that retelling it actually brings tears to her eyes. She realizes that it was not metaphysical in nature, but at the same time the perspective of being free from certain aspects of her brain (one of her hemispheres) was, to say the least, enlightening. Youtube Link. The whole thing is very interesting, but you can skip to 13:40 or 14:50 for the stuff that's relevant here.

As to the other side, there is a documentary about a quantum physicist named Amit Goswami called "The Quantum Activist". He makes a case for quantum philosophy and a higher reality. The video itself is kinda lame (it's an overglorified videotaped lecture) but the content is still fascinating. No link, but it's currently streaming on Netflix if you kind this kind of thing interesting.
 
2012-10-10 05:52:42 AM
It's most likely he was completely unconscious during the week his brain showed no activity. He wouldn't perceive any time passing during that. The process of his brain shutting down and then starting back up could have given him the perception of being in that crazy "afterlife" adventure. Other than the actual chance of death, it's sounds similar to the experience of an extremely heavy psychadelic trip.
 
2012-10-10 06:31:19 PM
hubiestubert:

You be an articulate dead guy.

Rehab and recovery made me absolutely despise those who saved my life.

Death woulda been a ton easier.

I worked with these people. Saw them frequently. Told 'em as such. Took several many years... I got over it.

I'm glad to be with my sons.

/again, not proselytizing
//just sayin' 
///BTDT
 
2012-10-10 06:44:32 PM

stir22: Richard


Bad, really bad car accident.

Blood?

I had none.

First responders were basically waiting for me to die. I know this because I know them.
 
2012-10-10 07:07:08 PM
And this'll be my parting words: Comatose people can hear you.
 
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