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(Yahoo)   Chiefs lineman unhappy when Kansas City fans cheer QB Matt Cassel getting hurt, is shocked, SHOCKED that maybe NFL fans aren't watching the game for displays of good sportsmanship and camaraderie   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 130
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2012-10-08 09:25:03 AM
You could say his jimmies have been rustled
 
2012-10-08 09:30:08 AM
We should just start playing rollerball and be done with it.
 
2012-10-08 09:30:22 AM
The time has come for the Mighty Quinn. Prepare yourselves.
 
2012-10-08 09:31:57 AM
On the bright side, they covered the spread
 
2012-10-08 09:34:56 AM
People watch football to see you kill the other people. If they allowed weapons, it would only make the sport more popular. A death on the field will only make the game more talked about and watched. everyone in the game knows it. They just don't talk about it. It is the life they have chosen.

Bloodlust and gambling, they are what made the NFL what it is.
 
2012-10-08 09:37:52 AM
I'm of two minds about this.

On one hand, he's absolutely right in defending his teammate and friend, especially given what happened to Kevin Boss the week before. Any fan that cheers an injury- and I know that some people were- is an embarrassment to the city, the team, and doesn't deserve to wear the team's colors. Cassel and Winston are great guys that have supported many charitable causes in the area, and I can't blame him in the least for lashing out like that immediately after the game.

However, throwing EVERY fan of the Chiefs under the bus like he did- and ESPN is very much running with his comments in the context of "the entire fanbase did this"- is absolutely ignorant. People were cheering for a variety of reasons in that moment- the team had scored a first down on the play and weren't aware that Cassel had been hurt, there was built-up frustration over leaving a QB in the game that, as a game manager, had passed for 92 yards with 4 turnovers on top of not leading for one minute of the season, and some fans saw Quinn warming up before the injury happened as a sign that Romeo had changed his mind. Those reasons are perfectly valid and normal fan behavior. Nobody should be cheering the injury of a human being, and I'm embarrassed as a long-time KC native (in WI now) to be associated with them, especially after our frustration of supporting the worst-run MLB franchise of the last 20 years boiled over in July at the All-Star Game at the Robinson Cano booing sullied the fanbase in the eyes of the national media.
 
2012-10-08 09:37:55 AM
Is this when KC fans try to say they aren't bad people because they cheered miggy?

Also, I liked that the author threw in that Braves fans are bad because they had to put up with the outfield fly rule being made up during their playoff game.
 
2012-10-08 09:41:42 AM
I'm a Chiefs fan living near Baltimore, so I was able to watch this game from the comfort of my living room. I didn't even know the fans cheered his injury until this morning, so I didn't hear it during the game.

But I'm sure they did, and some of the excuses have been that many were just cheering Brady Quinn coming into the game. Really, that's the excuse. Brady Quinn.

That's how bad things are right now. Jamaal Charles rushes for 125 yards in the 1st half against the Ravens and it's absolutely meaningless to anything other than my FFL.
 
2012-10-08 09:42:39 AM
Under normal circumstances this guy would be right. Booing an injured person is a pretty dick move.

But these aren't normal circumstances. This is the 1-4 Chiefs. This is Arrowhead which once was a noisy bastion of intimidation now reduced to a squeaky timid mouse of a stadium. Nobody cares how hard you guys are trying, trying is for tee-ball. These are fans who've had to endure MartyBall, Gunther Cunningham playing on his computer, Dick Vermeil chasing off the defense, Herm Edwards chasing off the ability to play football, and Pioli and Hunt Jr chasing off any hope. This is a town where the fans have to endure the Kansas City Royals, who have been setting new milestones in futility for the last 20 years. This town hasn't sniffed a playoff game or a championship in a generation. They've had to sit through Elvis Grbac throwing interceptions and Trent Green concussions. They're still wearing Derrick Thomas jerseys for godssakes and that should tell you all you need to know about how things have been these last few years.

If anyone needs some cutting of slack it's the fans. Let them boo. This was supposed to be a playoff run this year but once again it's a disaster of epic proportions. Oh yeah, and the Royals are raising ticket prices again.
 
2012-10-08 09:44:33 AM

Mateorocks: But I'm sure they did, and some of the excuses have been that many were just cheering Brady Quinn coming into the game. Really, that's the excuse. Brady Quinn.


No, they weren't. Kansas City fans hate Matt Cassel. I wish they wouldn't boo him for getting hurt, but it doesn't surprise me in the least that they did.
 
2012-10-08 09:45:16 AM

theurge14: Under normal circumstances this guy would be right. Booing an injured person is a pretty dick move.

But these aren't normal circumstances. This is the 1-4 Chiefs. This is Arrowhead which once was a noisy bastion of intimidation now reduced to a squeaky timid mouse of a stadium. Nobody cares how hard you guys are trying, trying is for tee-ball. These are fans who've had to endure MartyBall, Gunther Cunningham playing on his computer, Dick Vermeil chasing off the defense, Herm Edwards chasing off the ability to play football, and Pioli and Hunt Jr chasing off any hope. This is a town where the fans have to endure the Kansas City Royals, who have been setting new milestones in futility for the last 20 years. This town hasn't sniffed a playoff game or a championship in a generation. They've had to sit through Elvis Grbac throwing interceptions and Trent Green concussions. They're still wearing Derrick Thomas jerseys for godssakes and that should tell you all you need to know about how things have been these last few years.

If anyone needs some cutting of slack it's the fans. Let them boo. This was supposed to be a playoff run this year but once again it's a disaster of epic proportions. Oh yeah, and the Royals are raising ticket prices again.


Wat
 
2012-10-08 09:46:17 AM
Long story short, Kansas City fans are tired of getting pooped on by their own teams. It happened Sunday and it happened at the All-Star game this summer. The reaction would be the same in your town if you had the double-barreled suckeage that is the Chiefs and Royals residing in your backyard.
 
2012-10-08 09:47:03 AM

bhcompy: If anyone needs some cutting of slack it's the fans. Let them boo. This was supposed to be a playoff run this year but once again it's a disaster of epic proportions. Oh yeah, and the Royals are raising ticket prices again.

Wat


(whistles)
 
2012-10-08 09:48:17 AM
Now, here's the thing- Winston acknowledged that not everybody was cheering later on Twitter, but it obviously struck a nerve with the guy, and the problem is that the national media is running with his initial comments from the locker room. Simply put, it's not representative of the fanbase or city. That being said, seeing a banner being flown over the stadium before the game that read "Fire Pioli, Bench Cassel" and signs everywhere that called for Cassel to lose his job probably didn't put the best taste in his mouth before it happened, and I think it's important to understand that to understand where he was coming from.

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2012-10-08 09:52:43 AM
Subby, the fans were wrong and yes, some of us DO expect sportsmanship when watching football. Hsrd hits and sportsmanship are not mutually exclusive btw..
 
2012-10-08 10:06:48 AM

thecpt: Also, I liked that the author threw in that Braves fans are bad because they had to put up with the outfield fly rule being made up during their playoff game.


If the ball'shiat high enough, a shortstop could catch a ball on the warning track "with minimal effort", making it an infield fly under the strict interpretation of the rule some people are floating around. Crazy.
 
2012-10-08 10:09:57 AM
Remember when the Chiefs beat the Saints this year? What was up with that?
 
2012-10-08 10:10:35 AM
As a local who has written this entire franchise off until there is new ownership, I can only say, I have nothing but respect for much of the team (fark you forever and ever Larry Johnson) and wish them the best of luck. But until we have said change of ownership this is pretty much what we can expect in terms of quality and outcomes.
 
2012-10-08 10:14:07 AM

Incorrigible Astronaut: Now, here's the thing- Winston acknowledged that not everybody was cheering later on Twitter, but it obviously struck a nerve with the guy, and the problem is that the national media is running with his initial comments from the locker room. Simply put, it's not representative of the fanbase or city. That being said, seeing a banner being flown over the stadium before the game that read "Fire Pioli, Bench Cassel" and signs everywhere that called for Cassel to lose his job probably didn't put the best taste in his mouth before it happened, and I think it's important to understand that to understand where he was coming from.

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Every fanbase has its morons. Hell, back in 2009 we had a group taking donations to put up "Fire Lovie Smith" billboards in Chicago. Then in 2010, Chicago went to the NFC Championship game, in 2011 the Bears were 7-3 before Cutler got injured, and this year they are 4-1. In the meanwhile, I guess the group that put up the billboards got in trouble over taxes, as they didn't think their cunning plan through enough to realize they aren't a legit nonprofit organization.

Oh, and we also had those idiots in NO holding the Katrina signs.

You just can't take the worst examples of a fanbase as a representation of the whole.
 
2012-10-08 10:20:26 AM
Cassel has to go.
Crennel has to go.
Pioli has to go.
Clark (he doesn't get to be called Mr. Hunt) has to go.
This franchise is a joke.
 
2012-10-08 10:20:59 AM

Orgasmatron138: Incorrigible Astronaut: Now, here's the thing- Winston acknowledged that not everybody was cheering later on Twitter, but it obviously struck a nerve with the guy, and the problem is that the national media is running with his initial comments from the locker room. Simply put, it's not representative of the fanbase or city. That being said, seeing a banner being flown over the stadium before the game that read "Fire Pioli, Bench Cassel" and signs everywhere that called for Cassel to lose his job probably didn't put the best taste in his mouth before it happened, and I think it's important to understand that to understand where he was coming from.

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Every fanbase has its morons. Hell, back in 2009 we had a group taking donations to put up "Fire Lovie Smith" billboards in Chicago. Then in 2010, Chicago went to the NFC Championship game, in 2011 the Bears were 7-3 before Cutler got injured, and this year they are 4-1. In the meanwhile, I guess the group that put up the billboards got in trouble over taxes, as they didn't think their cunning plan through enough to realize they aren't a legit nonprofit organization.

Oh, and we also had those idiots in NO holding the Katrina signs.

You just can't take the worst examples of a fanbase as a representation of the whole.


I know, and it's just... frustrating to see a player for the team and nearly every talking head on ESPN (specifically Hoge, Mike and Mike, and the First Take guys) doing exactly that. I never lumped all of the Chicago fans in with those few, and I completely empathize with the frustration of being associated with those fringe elements by the national media.
 
2012-10-08 10:21:21 AM
Sorry, subby, but cheering for injuries is the height of douchebaggery and has no place.That sort of behavior will get you your ass handed to you in some stadiums.
 
2012-10-08 10:23:57 AM

Mentat: Cassel has to go.
Crennel has to go.
Pioli has to go.
Clark (he doesn't get to be called Mr. Hunt) has to go.
This franchise is a joke.


I completely agree, and I wish that this is what everybody was focusing on today. Pioli has to be loving the fact that he's getting to deflect this onto the fans somehow.
 
2012-10-08 10:29:13 AM

Slow To Return: If the ball'shiat high enough, a shortstop could catch a ball on the warning track "with minimal effort", making it an infield fly under the strict interpretation of the rule some people are floating around. Crazy.


The only thing strictly defined is that it is a judgement call that can't be overturned. Other than that calling it at the last second is dicking them over.
 
2012-10-08 10:40:33 AM
It's not like any of the fans ran onto the field and took a bat to Cassel's legs...like they wanted to.
 
2012-10-08 10:42:34 AM
 
2012-10-08 10:58:09 AM

Incorrigible Astronaut: Finally, here's the unedited sideline video from when the injury happened. Draw your own conclusions.


Considering you can see people in the stands applauding and giving each other high-fives, I'm gonna guess that people cheered that Cassel was injured.

That said, I think the real news is that the team was surprised at this. It's as if they've lived only on the field and never attended a football game. College and pro football fans, especially when drunk, are some of the loudest, bloodthirstiest, classless, and boorish people you'll ever meet.
 
2012-10-08 11:00:32 AM

Incorrigible Astronaut: Finally, here's the unedited sideline video from when the injury happened. Draw your own conclusions.


Thanks, ESPN for dumping gasoline all over this tiny ember.
 
2012-10-08 11:01:48 AM

Incorrigible Astronaut: Finally, here's the unedited sideline video from when the injury happened. Draw your own conclusions.


Watch that video...

and honestly tell me the cheers were louder when Cassel went down. Yes there are cheers right after the play. But remember, that 16 yard screen pass in the 4th quarter was probably our longest (and one of the very few) pass plays of the day. then as Cassel is getting up, Watch Bowe (#82) he is encouraging the crowd to cheer... so they did. Crowd cheering because a player is walking off under his own power, like every crowd does in every sport when a player walks off after being down for a while. Yes the cheers also got louder when Quinn came in, but that should tell you all you need to know about the state of Kansas City Chiefs football right now. Brady Quinn coming off the bench is actually something to cheer about.

Even on facebook and twitter most of the fans were excited about the change at QB, but almost all mentioned they hated seeing Cassel hurt and hoped he was OK.
 
2012-10-08 11:03:55 AM
I see people cheering the first down and getting quiet outside of a classless few once people start attending to #7, then clapping when he gets up. That being said, there was a cut at :34, so I'm not sure if this is as unbiased as I thought it was.
 
2012-10-08 11:04:11 AM
It's pretty uncanny that this is how Quinn got his start in Cleveland - after Derek Anderson got injured (also with fans cheering). Even the coach is the same.
 
2012-10-08 11:12:54 AM
Most of these people were fat, drunk, middle-aged white guys. They're so edgy when they all shout in unison "Bullshiat! Bullshiat! Bullshiat!" They do it because they're moms are either dead or in a nursing home and they know they can get away with potty mouth now.

Paying your ticket price (or having your company pay it for you) doesn't entitle you to anything more than a seat. Funny word, entitled. Isn't that what these guys say about other people all the time?

Charles Barkley said talk radio ruined sports--it turned a lot of fans into idiots who think they own the players and can say anything or do anything. A few basketball fans have been punched out but of course it was the players' fault for overreacting when some drunk bum calls them a racial slur, probably in front of the player's friends or family.
 
2012-10-08 11:15:16 AM
On Mike and Mike this morning, they mentioned that Cassel got booed at a charity softball game this summer by some KC fans. Ouch.
 
2012-10-08 11:15:48 AM
At least give Stanzi a chance...

/Iowa fan
 
2012-10-08 11:23:31 AM
People cheer when boxers or MMA fighters get hurt. Is this really so different?
 
2012-10-08 11:27:28 AM
"We are not gladiators and this is not the Roman Coliseum. This is a game."


Now if the networks could listen to this and stop portraying these guys as warriors going off to fight to the death, idiots like those thousands of fans who cheered would stop attending the games.
 
2012-10-08 11:28:12 AM

Wasilla Hillbilly: People cheer when boxers or MMA fighters get hurt. Is this really so different?


Yep.
 
2012-10-08 11:30:52 AM
Incorrigible Astronaut


Cassel and Winston are great guys that have supported many charitable causes in the area,


Winston's been here 4 months. What's he done, cut a ribbon at the new Hen House opening?

theurge14

This is a town where the fans have to endure the Kansas City Royals, who have been setting new milestones in futility for the last 20 years. This town hasn't sniffed a playoff game or a championship in a generation.

Actually, the Chefs have been to the postseason many times in the last 20 years, they just have not won a playoff game since Montana was QB
 
2012-10-08 11:32:36 AM

jj325: At least give Stanzi a chance...

/Iowa fan


RG3 might have to take time to recover, which means there will be a Cousins to start next week.

/I like RG3 a lot, but Cousins is the man.
//big ten qbs!
 
2012-10-08 11:33:33 AM
If Brady had never come back from his knee injury, I (and every other Patriots fan) would have been okay with going forward with Matt Cassel after the year he had with us. He also took the Chiefs to the playoffs a few years ago. If the Chiefs broke him, that's on them- he was fine when New England gave him.
 
2012-10-08 11:33:59 AM

Uncle Pooky: On Mike and Mike this morning, they mentioned that Cassel got booed at a charity softball game this summer by some KC fans. Ouch.


Sadly, I believe this. For decades KC had two of the best owners in sports, Ewing Kauffman and Lamar Hunt. Even when the teams were horrible, there was at least a glimmer of hope. For the last 20 years we have 2 of the cheapest and most hands-off owners. Combine that with the fact that kids that can vote have seen the Royals finish above .500 once in their lifetime. And Chiefs have been down for over a decade. Things are at a tipping point. Just a month or so ago, a member of the chiefs media organization insulted a fan on twitter for complaining the Chiefs were so far under the salary cap again.

After years of loyal support, right now it just feels like both teams are just giving the fans a big F.U. KC fans can handle the losing (hell, rooting for Chiefs, Royals and MU Tigers, losing is in our DNA... not that we are cubs fans or anything). BUT, its the perceived lack of effort on an organizational level that has just trickled down and is really rubbing fans the wrong way. Clark Hunt doesn't care if the Chiefs win, David Glass doesn't care if the Royals win. Not like Ewing and Lamar, we were spoiled.
 
2012-10-08 11:37:09 AM
Aaaaaand typical ESPN. Big headline, no details or context.
 
2012-10-08 11:40:23 AM
Okay, THIS is why Cassel needs to win The Jake this week. Not only did he have a s**t game, but the fans of his OWN TEAM cheered when he got knocked out of the game!

If that doesn't count as a "Bad Day", I don't know what does!
 
2012-10-08 11:45:20 AM

Captain Steroid: Cassel needs to win The Jake this week


Hold on, Sanchez/Tebow haven't yet begun to Jake
 
2012-10-08 11:46:35 AM

Incorrigible Astronaut: Mentat: Cassel has to go.
Crennel has to go.
Pioli has to go.
Clark (he doesn't get to be called Mr. Hunt) has to go.
This franchise is a joke.

I completely agree, and I wish that this is what everybody was focusing on today. Pioli has to be loving the fact that he's getting to deflect this onto the fans somehow.


All of this makes Belichick look like even more of a genius.
 
2012-10-08 11:47:31 AM

bhcompy:
Wat


RE playoff run this year...as an outsider looking in, on paper at least and before the season started I definitely thought KC would be a force indeed this year. I didn't realize things were going badly (checks standings...ouch). My condolences. On the optimistic side, a 1-4 start could become a .500 record around week 9. There's always hope.
 
2012-10-08 11:55:00 AM
It takes a special kind of scumbag to cheer injuries.
 
2012-10-08 11:57:00 AM

El Brujo: bhcompy:
Wat

RE playoff run this year...as an outsider looking in, on paper at least and before the season started I definitely thought KC would be a force indeed this year. I didn't realize things were going badly (checks standings...ouch). My condolences. On the optimistic side, a 1-4 start could become a .500 record around week 9. There's always hope.


Captain Steriod's team did that very thing and made the playoffs last year.
 
2012-10-08 12:08:18 PM

Palmer Eldritch: If Brady had never come back from his knee injury, I (and every other Patriots fan) would have been okay with going forward with Matt Cassel after the year he had with us. He also took the Chiefs to the playoffs a few years ago. If the Chiefs broke him, that's on them- he was fine when New England gave him.


Please. Belichick knew what he had and he knew that he could foist Cassel off on Pioli and get something better in return. He played Pioli like a cheap ukelele and now Pioli is too embarrassed to admit it. I liked the Pioli hiring when it happened and I think he could recover from this mistake IF he didn't suffer from Smartest Guy in the Room syndrome.
 
2012-10-08 12:20:41 PM

Palmer Eldritch: If Brady had never come back from his knee injury, I (and every other Patriots fan) would have been okay with going forward with Matt Cassel after the year he had with us. He also took the Chiefs to the playoffs a few years ago. If the Chiefs broke him, that's on them- he was fine when New England gave him.


Clever ruse.

Everyone knows that Cassel did so great because the Patriots just have a great team and a great system. One doesn't simply just plug in someone that hasn't started since high school and get 10+ wins in the NFL on the back of that player. The problem people have with this statement is that it reflects on Brady, but it is the truth.
 
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