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(Daily Mail)   What happened after Chief Short Cake died? Some helicopter parents got all butthurt because a homework lesson used the word "Squaw"   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 148
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2012-10-08 08:34:17 AM  
Subby forgot to say crotchfruit.
 
2012-10-08 08:35:25 AM  

Deep Contact: Still OK that Europeans murdered thousands of Indians.


Uh... says who?
 
2012-10-08 08:35:45 AM  
A Chippewa getting upset about an Algonquin term is akin to me getting upset by someone using "pirge".
 
2012-10-08 08:38:15 AM  
The school suspended the teacher for a day for using squaw.

Did they tell him 'see you next tuesday'?
 
2012-10-08 08:38:16 AM  

FastJeff: FriarReb98: And I'm sorry, but we as a human race need to stop getting offended at every goddamned thing.

I'm full-blooded injun and I agree, but squaw is a pretty bad one. It's not an issue of being offended, it's a safety issue. Folks running around natives saying that are likely to get knifed.


So what is the correct term to use?
 
2012-10-08 08:38:26 AM  
Chief Short Cake? Must have been a member of one of those tribes that named their kids in Kindergarten. That all ended after Chief Runs Like a Girl came to power. He decreed that all tribal names are bestowed during Freshman high school. Later, Chief Dart Board Goalie pushed it back a few more years.
 
2012-10-08 08:40:14 AM  
People get offended. There's a lot of "overoffense" that goes on with public melodramatic outrage. I don't the offense in this case is too over-the-top. A school teacher should show a higher level of cultural understanding, especially when he teaches in a school that is 22% Indian (feathered).

This is about as tactful as using "coont" in a play on words in a school assignment. It shows a remarkable level of ignorance. Not firing worthy, but certainly apology worthy.
 
2012-10-08 08:40:14 AM  
Hiya! Howya doin'?
 
2012-10-08 08:41:10 AM  

G.I.R.B.: AbbeySomeone: Insatiable Jesus: Squaw is not the preferred nomenclature, Larry.

Vagina. Does that word make you uncomfortable?

Just IM'd a Native American acquaintance.

"Squaw" means "coont" (in it's most derogatory), not "vagina".


Actually, no it doesn't.

It may still be offensive, in the same way that "retard" became offensive (once a non-derogatory description, a person whose development was retarded in the sense of held back compared to the norm that became derogatory through use), but it's a term for "coont".
 
2012-10-08 08:42:46 AM  
i.dailymail.co.uk

Doesn't look like the Honors Trigonometry type.

Will be selling used cars out by the highway in 5 years. Will probably let a Chevy Traverse go for $5,600 below sticker.
 
2012-10-08 08:43:05 AM  

Deep Contact: Still OK that Europeans murdered thousands of Indians.


Yep. But it was not murder. We fought them fair and square for the land. It was not our fault that they did not have guns when we showed up.
 
2012-10-08 08:46:03 AM  
i.dailymail.co.uk
Members of the Lac du Flambeau Tribe (pictured at a community event) in northern Wisconsin

Looks like someone Flambeauing amiright? 

Actually a pretty cool tribe. Perfected color safe washing in cold water (whitey stole it from them, of course). Keeps the brights bright.
 
2012-10-08 08:48:57 AM  

dittybopper: but it's a term for "coont".


sed 's/s a/s not a/'

It's *NOT* a term for "coont" is what I meant to say.
 
2012-10-08 08:54:10 AM  

FastJeff: FriarReb98: And I'm sorry, but we as a human race need to stop getting offended at every goddamned thing.

I'm full-blooded injun and I agree, but squaw is a pretty bad one. It's not an issue of being offended, it's a safety issue. Folks running around natives saying that are likely to get knifed.


Squaw better get her ass in the kitchen and make me a maize-sammich.


/I keed.
 
2012-10-08 08:54:47 AM  

lizyrd: This is about as tactful as using "coont" in a play on words in a school assignment.


No it isn't: The two don't compare. The origin of the word comes from the Eastern Algonquin tribes that were first contacted by Europeans, and as documented by linguists since the 17th Century, the term merely mean "woman" in those languages. There is no evidence it was derogatory in nature.

The idea that it was a derogatory term for female genitalia didn't surface until the 1970's. Like much of the 1970's, that idea is just plain wrong. That theory didn't gain much traction until an Oprah show in 1992.
 
2012-10-08 08:59:38 AM  

Mock26: Makh: I would be really pissed if my kid had that as homework. As covered here, it's crap math for a 17 year old and it leads to an ignorant phrase. This paper virtually teaches nothing and in fact, more things need to be taught to make up for the crappy paper.

Crap math for most 17 year old students, but it is very advanced for a 17 year old jock. I am actually surprised he did so well.


I suspect the crooked lines were drawn by him, and the rest were filled in later, by his parents.
 
2012-10-08 09:01:35 AM  
Too many of you are being dumb squaws.
 
2012-10-08 09:03:11 AM  
I guess some guys just need something to squaw-k about.
 
2012-10-08 09:04:16 AM  
I'd be more offended by the clipped pidgen English in that joke.
 
2012-10-08 09:06:11 AM  
So people get offended because the puzzle maker could insert a pun. Lesson learned: puns are bad.
 
2012-10-08 09:07:37 AM  

thamike: I would be much more upset that this was a math assignment for high school seniors in the first place.


This.

xanadian: Or a special ed student. But, I'm repeating myself.


That's racist.

drjekel_mrhyde: /You really want a person who has no farking clue about their own state teaching your kids?


Which would you rather have: A good teacher willing to teach 6th grade math to high school seniors in bumf*ck Wisconsin and has no f*cking clue about the state? Or a sh*tty teacher who's in tune with all the obscure social mores within the society?
 
2012-10-08 09:08:46 AM  

xanadian: FirstNationalBastard: MissFeasance: That's math homework for a 17 year old?

Maybe he's a football player.

Ah, scroll down in TFA and you'll see a pic of the kid with what looks like a football helmet.

CASE SOLVED

/that looks like math homework for a fifth grader...


5th?
they rally are dumbing down education.
 
2012-10-08 09:13:11 AM  

xenophon10k: sodomizer: The list of things you cannot say, allude to or even think about keeps growing.

Great work making us a free and open society, libs/fantasy-dwellers.

You are mistaken. You can say those things all you want. Go right ahead. Walk up to a Cherokee and say "squaw". While you're at it, find a large black man and call him "attractive and successful".


Then walk up to a white person and say "honky" or "cracker" and watch nothing happen.

Solving problems without violence is AWESOME!
 
2012-10-08 09:24:33 AM  

Marine1: Deep Contact: Still OK that Europeans murdered thousands of Indians.

Uh... says who?


US Government
 
2012-10-08 09:36:33 AM  

Scorpio Rex: So people get offended because the puzzle maker could insert a pun. Lesson learned: puns are bad.


but it's a terrible pun.
 
2012-10-08 09:37:42 AM  
www.gossipetv.com

RIP SHORTCAKE
 
2012-10-08 09:38:36 AM  

dittybopper: lizyrd: This is about as tactful as using "coont" in a play on words in a school assignment.

No it isn't: The two don't compare. The origin of the word comes from the Eastern Algonquin tribes that were first contacted by Europeans, and as documented by linguists since the 17th Century, the term merely mean "woman" in those languages. There is no evidence it was derogatory in nature.

The idea that it was a derogatory term for female genitalia didn't surface until the 1970's. Like much of the 1970's, that idea is just plain wrong. That theory didn't gain much traction until an Oprah show in 1992.


Yet again, Oprah is revealed to be he one pulling the strings.

Wake up, sheeple!
 
2012-10-08 09:38:55 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: In some 19th- and 20th-century texts squaw is used or perceived as derogatory.


Today, class, we learn the difference between "some" and "all."

We also learn that finding a few radicals who were offended by something doesn't make them experts, or indicative of the knowledge of a time.
 
2012-10-08 09:47:43 AM  

BigEd: I'm at work so I can't get a screenshot, but a mom I know on FB posted a picture of her snowflake's homework last week. She was all upset that her 5th grader had an assignment to identify the suffix in a group of words, one of which was the word "sexuality." I really just don't understand how that is somehow a word a 10 or 11 year old should not ever see.


So which answers were acceptable? "-ity", "-uality", and "ual"?

/waiting for an interesting word to replace the word which is prohibited
 
2012-10-08 09:53:04 AM  
I'm disturbed by the fact that the teacher making up that assignment used the word "burys" rather than the correct spelling of "buries".
 
2012-10-08 09:55:16 AM  
http://www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/squaw.html
 
2012-10-08 09:55:20 AM  

thamike: The student, 17-year-old Noah Archer, received and completed the assignment on September 28 at the school

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x843]

I would be much more upset that this was a math assignment for high school seniors in the first place.


This looks like what my 4th and 5th grade children are doing.
 
2012-10-08 09:57:01 AM  
 
2012-10-08 09:59:51 AM  

Hermione_Granger: Subby is wrong. The parents are right.

I'm so glad that more and more white people are waking up to the fact that some words are pejorative and hurtful. I'm also very glad that there are white folks out there who are refusing to train their children to be racists.

Seems to me subby belongs to the realm of unenlightened white people who get butthurt when they can't say any insensitive effing thing they want without being called on it.

This is the hope and change I've been looking for. A bit of silver lining to start my day.



THIS.
The people who seem to complain and whine the most about "political correctness" are the assholes who are butthurt that they can't just spew any racist thing they want from their pieholes anymore without someone actually taking them to task for their ignorance. Those people are also the ones for whom these epithets have no real meaning, since they are the ones who made them up in the first place.

How many derogatory names of american origin are there for WASPs anyway compared to other races and ethnic groups?
Racial Slur Database


Think first, then speak. not that difficult.
 
2012-10-08 10:02:23 AM  
The word "squaw" merely means "woman" in Eastern Algonquin languages. The idea that it means "vagina" is an urban legend. You know what pisses me off? PEOPLE PASSING AROUND BULLshiat ETYMOLOGY IN ORDER TO ACT OFFENDED.
 
2012-10-08 10:09:20 AM  
Why so serious?

It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A......

i.dailymail.co.uk

They may be the most flambeauing tribe evah...NTTAWWT
 
2012-10-08 10:11:44 AM  
Ugh! Squaw sound heap angry! Maybe smokem' peace pipe!
 
2012-10-08 10:11:46 AM  
i will go with tard
he erased the first line and then did a horrible job on two of them
but did anyone notice he erased his first name!!!!

of course he didn't know the S word
 
2012-10-08 10:13:54 AM  
strawberry shortcake
 
2012-10-08 10:14:13 AM  

rewind2846: Hermione_Granger: Subby is wrong. The parents are right.
...
How many derogatory names of american origin are there for WASPs anyway compared to other races and ethnic groups?
Racial Slur Database


Think first, then speak. not that difficult.



Not sure of your point since according to that link there appears to dozens, if not hundreds of slurs for white people? Add in the Catholics and we're definitely into three digits.
 
2012-10-08 10:16:31 AM  
The correct way:

Lady: Excuse me Mr. principal..... My son got a math homework assignment that used a controversial word in a foreign language.

Principal: I see, well, that teacher didn't write the assignment, and isn't an expert in foreign languages.... but, I'll mention it to him so that he knows in the future that it isn't a good idea to use that sheet as homework in the future. And obviously I won't be disciplining my teacher for anything, because that would be dumb.

Lady: Thank you. I will in no way be going to the press to attention whore myself over this.
 
2012-10-08 10:16:48 AM  
How Language Changes:

1620-1900 Squaw means 'woman'

1900-1992 Squaw means 'woman', not always as a compliment

1992 OPRAH gives activist a platform; activist declares 'squaw' evil

Never mind that actual linguists don't find an evil origin for the word. OPRAH has spoken: The word is now banned.
 
2012-10-08 10:20:46 AM  
If you had asked me what a squaw was I would have professed my ignorance and then guessed that it was something like a concubine or the chief's wife.

Now I know It is a phoenetic rendering of an Algonkian word that does NOT translate to "a woman's private parts." The word "squaw" - as "esqua," "squa," "skwa," "skwe" and other variants - traditionally means the totality of being female

So they should be offended
 
2012-10-08 10:21:40 AM  

willfullyobscure:

Not sure of your point since according to that link there appears to dozens, if not hundreds of slurs for white people? Add in the Catholics and we're definitely into three digits.



"American origin". WASPs. Not foreign. "Compared to other races and ethnic groups".
Try reading what I wrote first before posting an answer next time.
 
2012-10-08 10:22:36 AM  
Really putting the AW in squaw, there, Chief Butthurtsalot.
 
2012-10-08 10:24:23 AM  

Makh: I would be really pissed if my kid had that as homework. As covered here, it's crap math for a 17 year old and it leads to an ignorant phrase. This paper virtually teaches nothing and in fact, more things need to be taught to make up for the crappy paper.


I used to tutor physics at a 'good' liberal arts school. All the pre-meds had to take one year of physics (the real class, not physics appreciation). I would help these people (most of whom wanted to be doctors) set up their problem, and get it down to two equations and two variables. I would look up in triumph, only to see a complete lack of comprehension.

I heard a lot of complaints from students that Doctors shouldn't need math or physics. My argument was that if you were too dumb to grasp simple algebra or simple mechanics, I did not want you making life or death decisions.
 
2012-10-08 10:29:55 AM  
I will again lament the paltry lack of native American pornography out there. Them wimminz is hot, and I like seeing hot women en flagrante delecto, if you get my drift.


On the other hand, though, I applaud the native Americans for keeping their dignity.
 
2012-10-08 10:33:03 AM  
My question is: Did the Algonquins use this term to refer to Algonquin women generically? Or does the "N" word rule apply here. Seems like the writer was being a little nubianrdly with that information in the article.
 
2012-10-08 10:33:22 AM  

Sammichless: The correct way:

Lady: Excuse me Mr. principal..... My son got a math homework assignment that used a controversial word in a foreign language.

Principal: I see, well, that teacher didn't write the assignment, and isn't an expert in foreign languages.... but, I'll mention it to him so that he knows in the future that it isn't a good idea to use that sheet as homework in the future. And obviously I won't be disciplining my teacher for anything, because that would be dumb.

Lady: Thank you. I will in no way be going to the press to attention whore myself over this.


See, for all we know this exact exchange happened in a dozen other school districts and we don't know a thing about it.
 
2012-10-08 10:34:46 AM  
Nubianardly? Really? The filters need a dictionary.
 
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