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(Daily Mail)   What happened after Chief Short Cake died? Some helicopter parents got all butthurt because a homework lesson used the word "Squaw"   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 148
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2012-10-08 05:45:19 AM
The student, 17-year-old Noah Archer, received and completed the assignment on September 28 at the school

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I would be much more upset that this was a math assignment for high school seniors in the first place.
 
2012-10-08 05:46:05 AM
Chief Short Cake? Was she killed by General Purple Pieman?
 
2012-10-08 05:53:12 AM
That's math homework for a 17 year old?
 
2012-10-08 05:59:58 AM

MissFeasance: That's math homework for a 17 year old?


Maybe he's a football player.
 
2012-10-08 06:36:32 AM

thamike: The student, 17-year-old Noah Archer, received and completed the assignment on September 28 at the school

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I would be much more upset that this was a math assignment for high school seniors in the first place.


This looks like it should be in middle school - 6th or 7th grade.
 
2012-10-08 06:38:32 AM
On the upside, the kids learned a new word.
 
2012-10-08 06:59:35 AM

MissFeasance: That's math homework for a 17 year old?


This. Granted my memories of highschool math are fuzzy, but at 17 I feel like we were beyond basic arithmetic and BEDMAS rules.

Also, I like how he tried two lines without the ruler and then caved. I can just imagine him hunkered over the test trying to draw a straight line and finally saying "fark it" and then searching for a straight edge.
 
2012-10-08 07:11:22 AM

FirstNationalBastard: MissFeasance: That's math homework for a 17 year old?

Maybe he's a football player.


Or a special ed student. But, I'm repeating myself.

AbbeySomeone: On the upside, the kids learned a new word.


There used to be a ski resort way up in the middle of nowhere in Maine called "Big Squaw Mountain." They changed it to Big Moose Mountain.
 
2012-10-08 07:15:19 AM

FirstNationalBastard: MissFeasance: That's math homework for a 17 year old?

Maybe he's a football player.


Ah, scroll down in TFA and you'll see a pic of the kid with what looks like a football helmet.

CASE SOLVED

/that looks like math homework for a fifth grader...
 
2012-10-08 07:42:23 AM

xanadian: /that looks like math homework for a fifth grader...


Yes, yes it does. This kid is very obviously in remedial. And I'm sorry, but we as a human race need to stop getting offended at every goddamned thing. It's getting old and we're running out of things to be offended by. And at the rate we're going, pretty soon we'll be born without skin as thin as some of the people who make it on Fark seem to have.
 
2012-10-08 07:51:18 AM

MissFeasance: That's math homework for a 17 year old?


It's Wisconsin
 
2012-10-08 07:51:43 AM

FriarReb98: And I'm sorry, but we as a human race need to stop getting offended at every goddamned thing.


I'm full-blooded injun and I agree, but squaw is a pretty bad one. It's not an issue of being offended, it's a safety issue. Folks running around natives saying that are likely to get knifed.
 
2012-10-08 07:51:52 AM
FTFA:

He didn't actually know what the word 'squaw' meant and he showed the lesson to his mother Abbey Thompson, who is a member of the Lac du Flambeau Band of Lake Superior Chippewa in Wisconsin.

The word is derived from the eastern Algonquian language and refers to women. It has previously been thought to be a derogatory term but recent historians claim it is a tribal term meaning female genitalia.


In other words, Chief Shortcake died of terminal Snu-Snu.

OTOH - she IS a member of an actual native-American tribe. That does give her some standing to be upset at the use of the term.
 
2012-10-08 07:55:16 AM
Since I've been a kid, it's always been acceptable to be racist against American Indians in this country. Why is that?
 
2012-10-08 07:56:10 AM
Squaw is not the preferred nomenclature, Larry.
 
2012-10-08 07:57:35 AM
The list of things you cannot say, allude to or even think about keeps growing.

Great work making us a free and open society, libs/fantasy-dwellers.
 
2012-10-08 07:58:49 AM
Squaw is the new n-word? Double plus good!
 
2012-10-08 08:01:22 AM

FriarReb98: xanadian: /that looks like math homework for a fifth grader...

Yes, yes it does. This kid is very obviously in remedial. And I'm sorry, but we as a human race need to stop getting offended at every goddamned thing. It's getting old and we're running out of things to be offended by. And at the rate we're going, pretty soon we'll be born without skin as thin as some of the people who make it on Fark seem to have.


No the teacher should have known better after all the farking his state's name came from Native Americans
/You really want a person who has no farking clue about their own state teaching your kids?
 
2012-10-08 08:01:49 AM

Subdue their bellies: Squaw is the new n-word? Double plus good!


Ummm.... no. Go back and RTFA. It's an ..ahem.. impolite reference to a female body part. Of course, I find it interesting to point out that, once again, one of the first things you learn in a foreign language is how to curse.
 
2012-10-08 08:01:57 AM
Did Dances With Wolves teach us nothing?

/tatonka
 
2012-10-08 08:03:08 AM
Subby is wrong. The parents are right.

I'm so glad that more and more white people are waking up to the fact that some words are pejorative and hurtful. I'm also very glad that there are white folks out there who are refusing to train their children to be racists.

Seems to me subby belongs to the realm of unenlightened white people who get butthurt when they can't say any insensitive effing thing they want without being called on it.

This is the hope and change I've been looking for. A bit of silver lining to start my day.
 
2012-10-08 08:03:45 AM
FTFA: The word is derived from the eastern Algonquian language and refers to women. It has previously been thought to be a derogatory term but recent historians claim it is a tribal term meaning female genitalia.

So, they're taking it back?
 
2012-10-08 08:05:28 AM

thamike: The student, 17-year-old Noah Archer, received and completed the assignment on September 28 at the school

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x843]

I would be much more upset that this was a math assignment for high school seniors in the first place.


MissFeasance: That's math homework for a 17 year old?


Totally this! And, when did Algonquian become derogatory? All around, this is some serious BS!

/native American
//why don't you all go back to your native countries, morans!
 
2012-10-08 08:06:03 AM
You know, if I were Native American, I'd be far more upset by what some tribal authorities hold to be acceptable living conditions in reservations. I'd be livid, actually.

FastJeff: FriarReb98: And I'm sorry, but we as a human race need to stop getting offended at every goddamned thing.

I'm full-blooded injun and I agree, but squaw is a pretty bad one. It's not an issue of being offended, it's a safety issue. Folks running around natives saying that are likely to get knifed.


Odds are, he didn't even know it was a bad word. I'm roughly around the kid's age (21) and had noooooooo idea that it was a bad thing until I read this article.

You can let the meaning of some words die out, or you can bring it up as offensive and kids learn how to use it as a weapon, if that makes sense. It's like n**ga was a few years ago. Do you think that 90% of the white kids who were using that word around their black friends meant it in a derrogatory manner? No. They saw it on Chappelle's Show, thought he was hilarious, and wanted to emulate him. Then African-Americans said, "No, that's our word, and it's offensive when it's used by you", even though the kids had no offensive intent when using it.
 
2012-10-08 08:06:14 AM

Insatiable Jesus: Squaw is not the preferred nomenclature, Larry.


Vagina. Does that word make you uncomfortable?
 
2012-10-08 08:10:22 AM

AbbeySomeone: Insatiable Jesus: Squaw is not the preferred nomenclature, Larry.

Vagina. Does that word make you uncomfortable?


Just IM'd a Native American acquaintance.

"Squaw" means "coont" (in it's most derogatory), not "vagina".
 
2012-10-08 08:10:40 AM

FriarReb98: And I'm sorry, but we as a human race need to stop getting offended at every goddamned thing. It's getting old and we're running out of things to be offended by. And at the rate we're going, pretty soon we'll be born without skin as thin as some of the people who make it on Fark seem to have.


You think we are running out of things to be offended by? You have severly underestimated human imagination.

/And I am offended by your lack of faith in human imagination.
 
2012-10-08 08:11:01 AM

Marine1: You know, if I were Native American, I'd be far more upset by what some tribal authorities hold to be acceptable living conditions in reservations. I'd be livid, actually.

FastJeff: FriarReb98: And I'm sorry, but we as a human race need to stop getting offended at every goddamned thing.

I'm full-blooded injun and I agree, but squaw is a pretty bad one. It's not an issue of being offended, it's a safety issue. Folks running around natives saying that are likely to get knifed.

Odds are, he didn't even know it was a bad word. I'm roughly around the kid's age (21) and had noooooooo idea that it was a bad thing until I read this article.



I'll one up you on that... not only did I not know the word had magically turned offensive since I was in elementary school a couple decades ago, but I hadn't even thought of the word since then.

I don't think people are thinking their cunning plans all the way through, because by making light of how offended they are, they're doing nothing but bringing the newly offensive term back into the limelight and ensuring it will live on instead just disappearing.
 
2012-10-08 08:12:34 AM
Red people problems.
 
2012-10-08 08:13:26 AM
It's sad that so many native Americans assume that any reference to their culture is automatically a negative reference. In sports, there are protests of Chief Illini, The Redskins and The Braves - all of which convey admiration for the culture. Meanwhile, Irish Americans revel in Notre Dame's angry leprechaun and the Boston Celtic's vomiting Pope mascot
 
2012-10-08 08:14:35 AM
I would be really pissed if my kid had that as homework. As covered here, it's crap math for a 17 year old and it leads to an ignorant phrase. This paper virtually teaches nothing and in fact, more things need to be taught to make up for the crappy paper.
 
2012-10-08 08:14:48 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: MissFeasance: That's math homework for a 17 year old?

It's Wisconsin


It's Minocqua. Since Bosacki's Boathouse closed, that whole town has gone downhill. It was pretty much the only thing keeping the Yoopers at bay.
 
2012-10-08 08:14:53 AM

Subdue their bellies: Squaw is the new n-word? Double plus good!


White guys don't get to decide what what words are offensive to minorities.

Oh, and seeing it as offensive isn't new. You just haven't been paying attention.

Link

In some 19th- and 20th-century texts squaw is used or perceived as derogatory. Most of these uses are not sexual. One author, for example, referred to "the universal 'squaw' - squat, angular, pig-eyed, ragged, wretched, and insect-haunted" (Steele 1883). Squaw also became a derogatory adjective used against some men, in "squaw man," meaning either "a man who does woman's work" (similar to other languages) or "a white man married to an Indian woman and living with her people" (Hodge 1910). (This was a popular literary stereotype, as in The Squaw Man.)

In a western novel by Max Brand (1926), a male character asks a female character about her intentions:

"And follow this fortune hunter like a-like a squaw behind her man?"
"Like a squaw," she answered steadily, "if you choose to use that word!"

The writer Mourning Dove (1927), of Colville, Okanagan and Irish ancestry, showed her mixed-race heroine's opinion of the word:

"If I was to marry a white man and he would dare call me a 'squaw'-as an epithet with the sarcasm that we know so well-I believe that I would feel like killing him."

Perhaps in view of such uses as those above, one early-20th-century dictionary of American usage called squaw "a contemptuous term" (Crowell 1928).

The activist LaDonna Harris, telling of her work in empowering Native American schoolchildren in the 1960s at Ponca City, Oklahoma, recounted:

"We tried to find out what the children found painful about school [causing a very high dropout rate]. (...) The children said that they felt humiliated almost every day by teachers calling them "squaws" and using all those other old horrible terms" (Harris 2000).

In this case the term seems to have been regularly applied to girls in the lower grades of the elementary school, long before their puberty.
 
2012-10-08 08:15:31 AM

Hermione_Granger: Seems to me subby belongs to the realm of unenlightened white people who get butthurt when they can't say any insensitive effing thing they want without being called on it.


I think we should care about accuracy, not sensitivity. Sensitivity is in the eye of the beholder, which creates a surveillance state... in case anyone is offended.
 
2012-10-08 08:15:41 AM
Why is it that women find so many terms for "woman" to be derogatory? There are about 10 million ways to say "guy" and AFAIK men don't find any of them particularly offensive. Is it just bad to refer to someone as female? What's the deal, women?
 
2012-10-08 08:15:57 AM

G.I.R.B.: AbbeySomeone: Insatiable Jesus: Squaw is not the preferred nomenclature, Larry.

Vagina. Does that word make you uncomfortable?

Just IM'd a Native American acquaintance.

"Squaw" means "coont" (in it's most derogatory), not "vagina".


*woosh
 
2012-10-08 08:16:53 AM
So I can't say "coont bury shortcake?". Who knew?

/Yavapai definition - but my memory is weak

FirstNationalBastard: "...I not know the word had magically turned offensive"


Overcoming ignorance is usually called education, not magic.
 
2012-10-08 08:17:41 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Marine1: You know, if I were Native American, I'd be far more upset by what some tribal authorities hold to be acceptable living conditions in reservations. I'd be livid, actually.

FastJeff: FriarReb98: And I'm sorry, but we as a human race need to stop getting offended at every goddamned thing.

I'm full-blooded injun and I agree, but squaw is a pretty bad one. It's not an issue of being offended, it's a safety issue. Folks running around natives saying that are likely to get knifed.

Odds are, he didn't even know it was a bad word. I'm roughly around the kid's age (21) and had noooooooo idea that it was a bad thing until I read this article.



I'll one up you on that... not only did I not know the word had magically turned offensive since I was in elementary school a couple decades ago, but I hadn't even thought of the word since then.

I don't think people are thinking their cunning plans all the way through, because by making light of how offended they are, they're doing nothing but bringing the newly offensive term back into the limelight and ensuring it will live on instead just disappearing.


This! Also, i plan to start using it at work since nobody will know what I'm actually saying. Thanks helicopter mom!
 
2012-10-08 08:18:50 AM
Some of my ancestors were killed by native Americans back when we were still a British colony, killed by native Americans using bows and arrows. The name "Archer" is emotionally distressing to me, so much so that I will not be able to work today. What about my feelings, damn it?
 
2012-10-08 08:20:00 AM

Il Douchey: It's sad that so many native Americans assume that any reference to their culture is automatically a negative reference. In sports, there are protests of Chief Illini, The Redskins and The Braves - all of which convey admiration for the culture. Meanwhile, Irish Americans revel in Notre Dame's angry leprechaun and the Boston Celtic's vomiting Pope mascot


Well, to be fair, "squawbury shortcake" is definitely in very poor taste.
 
2012-10-08 08:22:15 AM
What a squaw may look like:

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2012-10-08 08:24:46 AM

Makh: I would be really pissed if my kid had that as homework. As covered here, it's crap math for a 17 year old and it leads to an ignorant phrase. This paper virtually teaches nothing and in fact, more things need to be taught to make up for the crappy paper.


Crap math for most 17 year old students, but it is very advanced for a 17 year old jock. I am actually surprised he did so well.
 
2012-10-08 08:25:59 AM

Insatiable Jesus: What a squaw may look like:

[24.media.tumblr.com image 497x683]

 

*datass.jpg*
 
2012-10-08 08:26:23 AM
Since I went to high school on a rez, I am pretty sure this is someone getting beaten material. That said, how the hell is this 12th grade level math?
 
2012-10-08 08:27:03 AM

masercot: Since I've been a kid, it's always been acceptable to be racist against American Indians in this country. Why is that?


The government needs to quit "helping"...

/Native
 
2012-10-08 08:28:42 AM
farm5.staticflickr.com

Image is hot like a settler burned alive.
 
2012-10-08 08:29:19 AM

sodomizer: The list of things you cannot say, allude to or even think about keeps growing.

Great work making us a free and open society, libs/fantasy-dwellers.


You are mistaken. You can say those things all you want. Go right ahead. Walk up to a Cherokee and say "squaw". While you're at it, find a large black man and call him "attractive and successful".
 
2012-10-08 08:30:01 AM
I'm at work so I can't get a screenshot, but a mom I know on FB posted a picture of her snowflake's homework last week. She was all upset that her 5th grader had an assignment to identify the suffix in a group of words, one of which was the word "sexuality." I really just don't understand how that is somehow a word a 10 or 11 year old should not ever see.
 
2012-10-08 08:32:17 AM

AbbeySomeone: G.I.R.B.: AbbeySomeone: Insatiable Jesus: Squaw is not the preferred nomenclature, Larry.

Vagina. Does that word make you uncomfortable?

Just IM'd a Native American acquaintance.

"Squaw" means "coont" (in it's most derogatory), not "vagina".

*woosh


I'm pretty sure it means a whales' vagina.
 
2012-10-08 08:33:00 AM
Still OK that Europeans murdered thousands of Indians.
 
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