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(Joystiq)   Entire city populations wiped out in suspected genocidal hack of "World Of Warcraft". Thousands of Orcs now know what it means to be Syrian   (joystiq.com ) divider line
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2012-10-08 08:45:41 AM  
Fast on the heels of the Panda expansion comes the MMORPG of Leibowitz DLC.
 
2012-10-08 08:45:54 AM  
Know who else tried to destroy an entire race of evil ogres?
 
2012-10-08 08:46:52 AM  
ooo...someone is gonna get themselves banninated into low orbit for that one...
 
2012-10-08 08:47:57 AM  
This was rather mildly upsetting to me yesterday. They had to hotfix the servers, which was most likely related to the possible login issues that lasted for hours after they brought the servers back online.

I was working on guild rep, damnit. Damn you hackers!
 
2012-10-08 08:51:44 AM  

Cythraul: This was rather mildly upsetting to me yesterday. They had to hotfix the servers, which was most likely related to the possible login issues that lasted for hours after they brought the servers back online.

I was working on guild rep, damnit. Damn you hackers!


Normally Blizzard applies a hotfix while the servers are live. The rolling restart and subsequent delay was unexpected, but I don't think it was related.
 
2012-10-08 08:57:34 AM  
I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I HATE THEM!
 
2012-10-08 09:00:07 AM  
Welp, it's the end of the world.

*goes to rape and pillage*
 
2012-10-08 09:00:44 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

What a Warraft hackr may look like.
 
2012-10-08 09:02:13 AM  
*watches video in tfa*

Hunh, Germans committing genoscide, who would have ever guessed they were capable of such a thing?
 
2012-10-08 09:02:56 AM  

hetheeme: *watches video in tfa*

Hunh, Germans committing genoscide, who would have ever guessed they were capable of such a thing?


They'll never live-down that whole 'Nazi' thing, will they? Hehehe.
 
2012-10-08 09:05:28 AM  
Germans have a lot of experience in that sort of thing.
 
2012-10-08 09:10:40 AM  
CURSE YOU, ANONYMOUS!!1!

*shakes tiny fist*
 
2012-10-08 09:10:59 AM  
Wow! That game looks boring.
 
2012-10-08 09:25:17 AM  
This...is awesome.

An injection of reality into the minds of people who think they are already there.

Games were made to be hacked. Period.
 
2012-10-08 09:25:59 AM  
Leroy Jenkins!!
 
2012-10-08 09:26:13 AM  
And millions of nerds cried out in unison, and were suddenly silenced.

/ I keed, I keed.
 
2012-10-08 09:27:13 AM  

MikeSass: This...is awesome.

An injection of reality into the minds of people who think they are already there.

Games were made to be hacked. Period.


This isn't even a hack in EVE. It's just every day life.
 
2012-10-08 09:31:14 AM  
Well, it's a good start.
 
2012-10-08 09:33:12 AM  

Celerian: Cythraul: This was rather mildly upsetting to me yesterday. They had to hotfix the servers, which was most likely related to the possible login issues that lasted for hours after they brought the servers back online.

I was working on guild rep, damnit. Damn you hackers!

Normally Blizzard applies a hotfix while the servers are live. The rolling restart and subsequent delay was unexpected, but I don't think it was related.


Hotfixes can sometimes fix things on the fly, other times they don't take affect till the next server restart, this was a case of requiring an immediate restart to fix the problem relating to the above (there's a strong belief that this wasn't a case of "hacking" per say, in as much as someone figured out how to get access to a finger of death style mod item that kills everything in a zone).

The big issue was something happening to the login shiat that took nearly 2+ hours to fix, weird part was it didn't affect everyone.
 
2012-10-08 09:42:10 AM  
No, no, no, no, no, you-you don't understand the scope of my crime. I didn't kill just one Orc, or a hundred, or a thousand. I killed them all. All Orcs, everywhere
 
2012-10-08 09:43:09 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-08 09:44:52 AM  
I thought it was interesting that it was happening as they forced server restarts as this was going on. Then there were folks who had issues getting back online of upwards of 90 minutes...

I wonder if some of this was to hold off hackers?

/tin foil hat
 
2012-10-08 09:47:34 AM  

Hack Patooey: No, no, no, no, no, you-you don't understand the scope of my crime. I didn't kill just one Orc, or a hundred, or a thousand. I killed them all. All Orcs, everywhere


Golf clap for Kevin Uxbridge!

(Man, I love that episode.)
 
2012-10-08 09:48:51 AM  

bhcompy: MikeSass: This...is awesome.

An injection of reality into the minds of people who think they are already there.

Games were made to be hacked. Period.

This isn't even a hack in EVE. It's just every day life.


Ill bite.

WoW and EVE are two different types of games. WoW goes for the full on fake sense of accomplishment while EVE is just an extreme spreadsheet.
 
2012-10-08 09:50:59 AM  
Good. Now go out and get a farking job, losers.
 
2012-10-08 10:02:54 AM  
cdn2.holytaco.com
 
2012-10-08 10:07:01 AM  

Clash City Farker: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 417x321]

What a Warraft hackr may look like.


www.miloop.com
Blizzard Exec #4: Jesus!
Blizzard Exec #5: I've gotta get home! My kids are playing world of warcraft right now!
Blizzard Exec #1: Jim... Your kids' characters are already dead.
Blizzard Exec #5: No... No! They'd just started playing!
 
2012-10-08 10:08:53 AM  

Baron Harkonnen: Know who else tried to destroy an entire race of evil ogres goblins?


FTFY
 
2012-10-08 10:11:53 AM  
Crimson Blood was still more fun.
 
2012-10-08 10:20:45 AM  
They should do this on purpose. Actually shake up their player base. Make something happen worth fighting against.
 
2012-10-08 10:24:56 AM  
I know that Blizzard has acknowledged this, but that video clearly shows it happening on a private server.
 
2012-10-08 10:25:01 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-08 10:29:41 AM  

corronchilejano: bhcompy: MikeSass: This...is awesome.

An injection of reality into the minds of people who think they are already there.

Games were made to be hacked. Period.

This isn't even a hack in EVE. It's just every day life.

Ill bite.

WoW and EVE are two different types of games. WoW goes for the full on fake sense of accomplishment while EVE is just an extreme spreadsheet.


EVE gives you the fake sense of accomplishment, then takes it away and crushes it.
 
2012-10-08 10:34:06 AM  

enik: I know that Blizzard has acknowledged this, but that video clearly shows it happening on a private server.


And by private server, you mean Die Nachtwache, one of Blizzards german servers.
 
2012-10-08 10:42:40 AM  
This just goes to show ya that we now have the C team working at Blizzard. Way to not remove access to dev commands.
 
kab
2012-10-08 10:46:12 AM  
Serious business, certainly.

I laugh at WoW players who look at dying in that game as any sort of setback. From folks who complain about 'griefing' like this to folks who will rage-quit a raid after one or two wipes. Generation: Entitlement is a group who have never played a game that had actual consequence for actions.

I actually feel bad for them.
 
2012-10-08 10:47:35 AM  

Cythraul: They'll never live-down that whole 'Nazi' thing, will they? Hehehe.


Just like the darkies will never live down being lazy, violent welfare cheats.
 
2012-10-08 10:51:19 AM  

born_yesterday: I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I HATE THEM!


That was okay...but kinda wooden. Try it again from the top, and this time really sell the emotion involved here. Put yourself in Anakin's shoes. We want the audience to feel what he's feeling.

Quiet on the set, please. Take 2. Lights, camera ... action!
 
2012-10-08 10:54:16 AM  

kab: Generation: Entitlement is a group who have never played a game that had actual consequence for actions.

I actually feel bad for them.


Poe's law: Gaming edition.
 
2012-10-08 10:56:27 AM  

kab: Serious business, certainly.

I laugh at WoW players who look at dying in that game as any sort of setback. From folks who complain about 'griefing' like this to folks who will rage-quit a raid after one or two wipes. Generation: Entitlement is a group who have never played a game that had actual consequence for actions.

I actually feel bad for them.


Yeah, how dare people play games to have fun.

/The pre-WOTLK event was 10000 times worse than the plague glitch from vanilla, only because ass-tards would intentionally plague every way-point making the game unplayable.
//They even got to Shattarath
///Damn you zombie infested wizard!
 
2012-10-08 10:58:20 AM  
Cry Havoc and unleash the dogs of war

/fortunately my level 92 half Norwegian was unharmed
 
2012-10-08 10:59:24 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: born_yesterday: I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I HATE THEM!

That was okay...but kinda wooden. Try it again from the top, and this time really sell the emotion involved here. Put yourself in Anakin's shoes. We want the audience to feel what he's feeling.

Quiet on the set, please. Take 2. Lights, camera ... action!


Lies, Lucas never did a second take in the prequels.

"Cut! Ok, that's a wrap"
"George, I was still holding the script"
"Oh, right, we'll edit it out in post production to look like you were holding an Ewok or something."
 
2012-10-08 11:12:08 AM  
It would be suck to be kicked out to Sybian.
 
2012-10-08 11:21:07 AM  
Just curious, but what are the consequences for death in WOW? I know in GW2, I either get revived by a player or have to pay a couple coins to respawn at a waypoint of my choice.
 
2012-10-08 11:24:36 AM  

croesius: Just curious, but what are the consequences for death in WOW? I know in GW2, I either get revived by a player or have to pay a couple coins to respawn at a waypoint of my choice.


You run back to your body. Rough, huh?
 
2012-10-08 11:28:55 AM  

croesius: Just curious, but what are the consequences for death in WOW? I know in GW2, I either get revived by a player or have to pay a couple coins to respawn at a waypoint of my choice.


In both, you also get damage to your armor.
 
2012-10-08 11:31:20 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: croesius: Just curious, but what are the consequences for death in WOW? I know in GW2, I either get revived by a player or have to pay a couple coins to respawn at a waypoint of my choice.

You run back to your body. Rough, huh?


I remember the early EQ days, where you had to run halfway across the map b/c you spawned at your home city. If you were a lower level and were killed by a giant, you usually had to beg a higher level to drag your body to a safer area.

Those were the days.
 
2012-10-08 11:33:39 AM  
World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....
 
2012-10-08 11:35:34 AM  

MikeSass: This...is awesome.

An injection of reality into the minds of people who think they are already there.

Games were made to be hacked. Period.


O|  |O
O|  |O

  |O|

Your move.
 
2012-10-08 11:39:41 AM  

FinFangFark: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: croesius: Just curious, but what are the consequences for death in WOW? I know in GW2, I either get revived by a player or have to pay a couple coins to respawn at a waypoint of my choice.

You run back to your body. Rough, huh?

I remember the early EQ days, where you had to run halfway across the map b/c you spawned at your home city. If you were a lower level and were killed by a giant, you usually had to beg a higher level to drag your body to a safer area.

Those were the days.


Qeynos to Highpass Keep following a very helpful Druid like a lost puppy, the entire way marveling at how huge the Karanas seemed. Ah, but you can't go home again.
 
2012-10-08 11:41:50 AM  

FinFangFark: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: croesius: Just curious, but what are the consequences for death in WOW? I know in GW2, I either get revived by a player or have to pay a couple coins to respawn at a waypoint of my choice.

You run back to your body. Rough, huh?

I remember the early EQ days, where you had to run halfway across the map b/c you spawned at your home city. If you were a lower level and were killed by a giant, you usually had to beg a higher level to drag your body to a safer area.

Those were the days.


Falling into the Hole where you could not retrieve your corpse because you were probably a low level without being keyed for the Hole thereby needing a high level Necro to get you out? Dying deep in any dungeon and having to be corpse dragged and have a high lvl high AA Cleric rez you only to discover that ONE death set you back a whole day and that you un-dinged and now you cannot equip your gear...Dying in EQ was something to be feared, to the point where it was super annoying.
 
2012-10-08 11:43:06 AM  

paidhima: FinFangFark: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: croesius: Just curious, but what are the consequences for death in WOW? I know in GW2, I either get revived by a player or have to pay a couple coins to respawn at a waypoint of my choice.

You run back to your body. Rough, huh?

I remember the early EQ days, where you had to run halfway across the map b/c you spawned at your home city. If you were a lower level and were killed by a giant, you usually had to beg a higher level to drag your body to a safer area.

Those were the days.

Qeynos to Highpass Keep following a very helpful Druid like a lost puppy, the entire way marveling at how huge the Karanas seemed. Ah, but you can't go home again.


Kithicor...

At night...

/still have nightmares
 
2012-10-08 11:44:01 AM  

cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....


Is WoW easier to hack because of the addons/LUA API?
 
2012-10-08 11:45:59 AM  

paidhima: FinFangFark: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: croesius: Just curious, but what are the consequences for death in WOW? I know in GW2, I either get revived by a player or have to pay a couple coins to respawn at a waypoint of my choice.

You run back to your body. Rough, huh?

I remember the early EQ days, where you had to run halfway across the map b/c you spawned at your home city. If you were a lower level and were killed by a giant, you usually had to beg a higher level to drag your body to a safer area.

Those were the days.

Qeynos to Highpass Keep following a very helpful Druid like a lost puppy, the entire way marveling at how huge the Karanas seemed. Ah, but you can't go home again.


That brings back memories.
 
2012-10-08 11:54:57 AM  

cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....


Well its partially because they're such a gigantic juicy target and they *really* want you to buy their stupid little hardware dongle. I watched my blizzard account get hacked over the course of a few emails saying this and that was happening to the account...and my reaction (fresh on the heels of putting in a whopping 6 hours into D3) was pretty much this:

art.penny-arcade.com
 
2012-10-08 11:56:08 AM  

maq0r: paidhima: FinFangFark: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: croesius: Just curious, but what are the consequences for death in WOW? I know in GW2, I either get revived by a player or have to pay a couple coins to respawn at a waypoint of my choice.

You run back to your body. Rough, huh?

I remember the early EQ days, where you had to run halfway across the map b/c you spawned at your home city. If you were a lower level and were killed by a giant, you usually had to beg a higher level to drag your body to a safer area.

Those were the days.

Qeynos to Highpass Keep following a very helpful Druid like a lost puppy, the entire way marveling at how huge the Karanas seemed. Ah, but you can't go home again.

Kithicor...

At night...

/still have nightmares


I once decided at the last moment that I didn't want to go to Freeport from BB and I jumped off the boat shortly after zoning. I figured it would be no big deal but that day I discovered that you couldn't zone back by swimming. The GM had no clue where I was at after an hour of swimming in one direction and was nice enough to port me to one of the islands where I could wait for the boat again. I miss travel in EQ.
 
2012-10-08 11:56:31 AM  

cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....


Um... only people without authenticators get their accounts hacked. Free on your smart phone. Nominal fee for a separate physical object.

My Battle Net account effectively has better security than my bank accounts. I'd love if my bank used two factor authentication.

That said, this was a server hack, not a client hack... ir more specifically they hacked their own clients to dick with the server. Good job of it too.
 
2012-10-08 11:58:17 AM  

BumpInTheNight: cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....

Well its partially because they're such a gigantic juicy target and they *really* want you to buy their stupid little hardware dongle. I watched my blizzard account get hacked over the course of a few emails saying this and that was happening to the account...and my reaction (fresh on the heels of putting in a whopping 6 hours into D3) was pretty much this:


Hardware dongle is sold at cost, no profit to Blizzard. Or get it free on Android or iOS.
 
2012-10-08 12:02:20 PM  

BumpInTheNight: cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....

Well its partially because they're such a gigantic juicy target and they *really* want you to buy their stupid little hardware dongle. I watched my blizzard account get hacked over the course of a few emails saying this and that was happening to the account...and my reaction (fresh on the heels of putting in a whopping 6 hours into D3) was pretty much this:

[art.penny-arcade.com image 800x401]


Odd, my GW and GW2 accounts have never been hacked.
 
2012-10-08 12:14:55 PM  

bhcompy: MikeSass: This...is awesome.

An injection of reality into the minds of people who think they are already there.

Games were made to be hacked. Period.

This isn't even a hack in EVE. It's just every day life.


Don't say EVE, I'm still in recovery and it's just too tempting.
 
2012-10-08 12:15:00 PM  

LazarusLong42: cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....

Um... only people without authenticators get their accounts hacked.



O RLY?
 
2012-10-08 12:17:15 PM  
static.gamesradar.com

at least it's not dead body spam

/and how do you kill that which has no life?
 
2012-10-08 12:21:38 PM  

superdave386: bhcompy: MikeSass: This...is awesome.

An injection of reality into the minds of people who think they are already there.

Games were made to be hacked. Period.

This isn't even a hack in EVE. It's just every day life.

Don't say EVE, I'm still in recovery and it's just too tempting.


I'm sorry to hear that. EVE Vegas was too much fun. Best community in MMOs, hands down
 
2012-10-08 12:29:34 PM  

LazarusLong42: Hardware dongle is sold at cost, no profit to Blizzard. Or get it free on Android or iOS.


That must have been a pre SC2/D3 business decision :P

PsyLord: Odd, my GW and GW2 accounts have never been hacked.


My hunch is it wasn't originally a GW account but the sponsorship overlords xnayed it.
 
2012-10-08 12:31:08 PM  

Hack Patooey: No, no, no, no, no, you-you don't understand the scope of my crime. I didn't kill just one Orc, or a hundred, or a thousand. I killed them all. All Orcs, everywhere


So... you are a Dowd... I for one welcome our new Dowd overlord... how do you take your tea?
 
2012-10-08 12:39:57 PM  

Weaver95: ooo...someone is gonna get themselves banninated into low orbit for that one...


Nope. In the video he tried sending a general message over channel 2 (Trade or LFG, IIRC) and was informed that trial accounts can't speak in general chat channels. So, he wasted 5 whole minutes making a trial account to test out the new Level 1 'Armageddon' spell.

Also, just started watching a new Anime series called 'Sword Art Online'. The setting is a MMORPG (the titular Sword Art Online), with complete VR imersion. The only problem is that on the day the game launches, everyone logs in, but finds that they can't log back out. The game's creator then appears and tells everyone that he's intentionally trapped everyone in the game and that each of the VR system helmets has a device that will kill the user if they die in game or if someone tries to detach the helmet. The only way anyone can leave is if someone makes it to the 100th level of the dungeon and kills the final boss.

Also, everyone's custom avatar is disabled and their RL face and body are projected into the game. Which is more horrific? Never being able to leave the game and you die in RL if you die IG, or being forced to see an entire world populated by MMORPG players?
 
2012-10-08 12:50:10 PM  
Beats the hell out of getting hack-killed in Day Z.

/yay, I have to start completely over...
//farking hackers...
 
2012-10-08 12:53:02 PM  
Well, if you actually died in WoW this might mean something.
 
2012-10-08 01:00:58 PM  

born_yesterday: I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I HATE THEM!


Cry more, emo Anakin.
 
2012-10-08 01:17:49 PM  

PsyLord: BumpInTheNight: cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....

Well its partially because they're such a gigantic juicy target and they *really* want you to buy their stupid little hardware dongle. I watched my blizzard account get hacked over the course of a few emails saying this and that was happening to the account...and my reaction (fresh on the heels of putting in a whopping 6 hours into D3) was pretty much this:

[art.penny-arcade.com image 800x401]

Odd, my GW and GW2 accounts have never been hacked.


Because nobody cares, its like why so few hack Macs, they want to make a big splash and gw just isn't worth it, I still have an account somewhere but I forget how I set it up or my logins. I wonder if they are having fun doing nothing.
 
2012-10-08 01:29:15 PM  

Cheron: Cry Havoc and unleash the dogs of war

/fortunately my level 92 half Norwegian was unharmed


I had nothing to do with this. Seriously
 
2012-10-08 01:32:44 PM  

paidhima: Qeynos to Highpass Keep following a very helpful Druid like a lost puppy, the entire way marveling at how huge the Karanas seemed. Ah, but you can't go home again.


I and my friends made it from GFay to Qeynos at level 12 or so... that was farking epic.

And by the way, you can go home again. Server has huge guilds, lots of raiding, and several hundred online every night. They released Kunark last year, they're following the exact same timeline as the original servers.
 
2012-10-08 01:44:27 PM  

AppleOptionEsc: /The pre-WOTLK event was 10000 times worse than the plague glitch from vanilla, only because ass-tards would intentionally plague every way-point making the game unplayable.
//They even got to Shattarath
///Damn you zombie infested wizard!


I completely forgot about the 'plague day' event in vanilla WoW.
Booty Bay was like a death-trap. One way in. No way out. Mu-ha-ha!

/Good Times
 
2012-10-08 01:45:07 PM  

vossiewulf: paidhima: Qeynos to Highpass Keep following a very helpful Druid like a lost puppy, the entire way marveling at how huge the Karanas seemed. Ah, but you can't go home again.

I and my friends made it from GFay to Qeynos at level 12 or so... that was farking epic.

And by the way, you can go home again. Server has huge guilds, lots of raiding, and several hundred online every night. They released Kunark last year, they're following the exact same timeline as the original servers.


Which is unfortunate. They should just stop with Kunark.
 
2012-10-08 02:20:00 PM  

maq0r: paidhima: FinFangFark: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: croesius: Just curious, but what are the consequences for death in WOW? I know in GW2, I either get revived by a player or have to pay a couple coins to respawn at a waypoint of my choice.

You run back to your body. Rough, huh?

I remember the early EQ days, where you had to run halfway across the map b/c you spawned at your home city. If you were a lower level and were killed by a giant, you usually had to beg a higher level to drag your body to a safer area.

Those were the days.

Qeynos to Highpass Keep following a very helpful Druid like a lost puppy, the entire way marveling at how huge the Karanas seemed. Ah, but you can't go home again.

Kithicor...

At night...

/still have nightmares


This. I still marvel at the level of anxiety a game could cause in a grown man sitting at a keyboard. And Kithcor at night was by far the worst.

Funniest thing I ever saw was similar to the article - a mission was giving waaaay to much XP, so hundreds were crowded around, cycling through it (in Highpass). Rather than just boot the server, for some reason the GMs trained a normally leashed raid mob to the site which then slaughtered everyone. Very amusing to watch coontil it got me too).
 
2012-10-08 02:22:17 PM  
No adding Velious would be fine. Velious had a lot of things to strive for.

It's after that it starts to get a bit wonky.
 
2012-10-08 02:28:30 PM  

superdave386: bhcompy: MikeSass: This...is awesome.

An injection of reality into the minds of people who think they are already there.

Games were made to be hacked. Period.

This isn't even a hack in EVE. It's just every day life.

Don't say EVE, I'm still in recovery and it's just too tempting.


I kind of miss EVE, until i remember how easily my carrier got killed.

PvP in EVE v. WoW. In Wow, you die and run back. In EVE, there's millions, or even billions of ISK riding on the outcome.
 
2012-10-08 02:45:29 PM  

YodaBlues: LazarusLong42: cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....

Um... only people without authenticators get their accounts hacked.


O RLY?

happened way earlier than that, but yeah. It's not trojans and redirectors that are the problem, it's the actual security on their own boxes that seems to be the problem.
 
2012-10-08 02:52:11 PM  

ranak: superdave386: bhcompy: MikeSass: This...is awesome.

An injection of reality into the minds of people who think they are already there.

Games were made to be hacked. Period.

This isn't even a hack in EVE. It's just every day life.

Don't say EVE, I'm still in recovery and it's just too tempting.

I kind of miss EVE, until i remember how easily my carrier got killed.

PvP in EVE v. WoW. In Wow, you die and run back. In EVE, there's millions, or even billions of ISK riding on the outcome.


I started getting bored after Hulkageddon became too mainstream. It was the only reason I was playing. After the debacle with the $70 monocle, I decided enough was enough.

/did that sound too hipster?
 
2012-10-08 02:54:27 PM  

gmoney101: Wow! That game looks boring.


This.
 
2012-10-08 03:39:40 PM  

Cythraul: They'll never live-down that whole 'Nazi' thing, will they? Hehehe.


No kidding, guys. It only happened once. Just let it go!
 
2012-10-08 03:47:20 PM  
I hate EVE so much. I WANT to love it... but I've come to the conclusion that I cannot play it because travel just takes too damn long.

EVE is supposed to be UO in space... but UO had lots of fast transportation methods.
 
2012-10-08 04:05:24 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: FinFangFark: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: croesius: Just curious, but what are the consequences for death in WOW? I know in GW2, I either get revived by a player or have to pay a couple coins to respawn at a waypoint of my choice.

You run back to your body. Rough, huh?

I remember the early EQ days, where you had to run halfway across the map b/c you spawned at your home city. If you were a lower level and were killed by a giant, you usually had to beg a higher level to drag your body to a safer area.

Those were the days.

Falling into the Hole where you could not retrieve your corpse because you were probably a low level without being keyed for the Hole thereby needing a high level Necro to get you out? Dying deep in any dungeon and having to be corpse dragged and have a high lvl high AA Cleric rez you only to discover that ONE death set you back a whole day and that you un-dinged and now you cannot equip your gear...Dying in EQ was something to be feared, to the point where it was super annoying.


I remember a guild mate giving Cazic two stun whips. No guild survived the Plane of Fear until a GM came in and reset the zone so Cazic diden't have the stun whips anymore. Good times.
 
2012-10-08 04:18:06 PM  

Oysterman: MikeSass: This...is awesome.

An injection of reality into the minds of people who think they are already there.

Games were made to be hacked. Period.

O|  |O
O|  |O
  |O|

Your move.


OK.
O|  |O
O|O|O
  |O|
I win. I was O's.
 
2012-10-08 04:21:52 PM  
This never happened in CoH /just sayin
 
2012-10-08 04:32:45 PM  

cretinbob: It's not trojans and redirectors that are the problem, it's the actual security on their own boxes that seems to be the problem.


This is the game company whose game passwords are not case-sensitive. Before you chime in and call bullshiat, check for yourself. In fact, here's a Diablo III thread where Bliz confirms this is the case for all their games. Bliz does not understand security.
 
2012-10-08 04:33:14 PM  

steamingpile: PsyLord: BumpInTheNight: cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....

Well its partially because they're such a gigantic juicy target and they *really* want you to buy their stupid little hardware dongle. I watched my blizzard account get hacked over the course of a few emails saying this and that was happening to the account...and my reaction (fresh on the heels of putting in a whopping 6 hours into D3) was pretty much this:

[art.penny-arcade.com image 800x401]

Odd, my GW and GW2 accounts have never been hacked.

Because nobody cares, its like why so few hack Macs, they want to make a big splash and gw just isn't worth it, I still have an account somewhere but I forget how I set it up or my logins. I wonder if they are having fun doing nothing.


1/10 since I'm replying with this comment.
 
2012-10-08 04:48:13 PM  

Boddhisatva: cretinbob: It's not trojans and redirectors that are the problem, it's the actual security on their own boxes that seems to be the problem.

This is the game company whose game passwords are not case-sensitive. Before you chime in and call bullshiat, check for yourself. In fact, here's a Diablo III thread where Bliz confirms this is the case for all their games. Bliz does not understand security.


Considering nobody on the farking planet bothers with brute forcing, I'm wondering why anyone should give a shiat.
 
2012-10-08 04:54:28 PM  
Well I guess they answered the riddle "How does one kill that which has no life?"
 
2012-10-08 05:04:24 PM  

bhcompy: vossiewulf: paidhima: Qeynos to Highpass Keep following a very helpful Druid like a lost puppy, the entire way marveling at how huge the Karanas seemed. Ah, but you can't go home again.

I and my friends made it from GFay to Qeynos at level 12 or so... that was farking epic.

And by the way, you can go home again. Server has huge guilds, lots of raiding, and several hundred online every night. They released Kunark last year, they're following the exact same timeline as the original servers.

Which is unfortunate. They should just stop with Kunark.


I think Velious is a necessity, and maybe someone could make a case for Luclin, but anything else is a non starter
 
2012-10-08 05:04:43 PM  
Didn't crap like this happen with some frequency in EQ and UO? I haven't played either of those or WoW, but a friend told me about an exploit he and a friend discovered in UO where if someone's house was close enough to the water and you exited your boat, you would be placed inside the house. He said they would scour the coasts looking for houses to raid, then clobber anyone they caught napping inside.
 
2012-10-08 05:13:21 PM  

Alonjar: I hate EVE so much. I WANT to love it... but I've come to the conclusion that I cannot play it because travel just takes too damn long.

EVE is supposed to be UO in space... but UO had lots of fast transportation methods.


Stop flying freighters. =P
 
2012-10-08 05:30:32 PM  

emocomputerjock: I think Velious is a necessity, and maybe someone could make a case for Luclin, but anything else is a non starter


Zone trash in Velious dropped semi-common loot that was superior to SSOY. Yea, sorry, I'll pass. Kunark didn't wreck the base game or add to power creep like every subsequent expansion, thus it was the only good expansion.
 
2012-10-08 06:25:13 PM  

roc6783: Didn't crap like this happen with some frequency in EQ and UO? I haven't played either of those or WoW, but a friend told me about an exploit he and a friend discovered in UO where if someone's house was close enough to the water and you exited your boat, you would be placed inside the house. He said they would scour the coasts looking for houses to raid, then clobber anyone they caught napping inside.


I remember one in UO where if you made a moongate at the right spot in front of a door, you could get into their house and steal their shiat. I don't think it had anything to do with killing people though, not sure why you'd bother, don't recall people spending tons of time afk in their houses.

Also had crap stolen from my boat a bunch of times, mostly ore.

There were a ton of cheating utilities for UO that were pretty common too, I specifically remember auto-targetting stuff for mages that would let you kill people while they weren't even on screen anymore.
 
2012-10-08 06:46:08 PM  
 
2012-10-08 07:10:59 PM  

kab: Serious business, certainly.

I laugh at WoW players who look at dying in that game as any sort of setback. From folks who complain about 'griefing' like this to folks who will rage-quit a raid after one or two wipes. Generation: Entitlement is a group who have never played a game that had actual consequence for actions.

I actually feel bad for them.


It's so horrible for them that they're able to have fun while playing games and not have to work, instead all the barriers are removed from their enjoyment. What a horrible, horrible life.
 
2012-10-08 07:27:53 PM  

PanicMan: They should do this on purpose. Actually shake up their player base. Make something happen worth fighting against.


sawyerspeaks.files.wordpress.com

If you want to imagine the future: Imagine this stamping on an Orcish face, forever.
 
2012-10-08 08:07:49 PM  

Celain: enik: I know that Blizzard has acknowledged this, but that video clearly shows it happening on a private server.

And by private server, you mean Die Nachtwache, one of Blizzards german servers.


About 15 seconds in it shows a 'Wowplus private' window which includes a teleport button. I don't play WoW, but it certainly looks like he's on a private server.
 
2012-10-08 09:05:21 PM  

MikeSass: Oysterman: MikeSass: This...is awesome.

An injection of reality into the minds of people who think they are already there.

Games were made to be hacked. Period.

O|  |O
O|  |O

  |O|

Your move.

OK.
O|  |O
O|O|O

  |O|
I win. I was O's.


▲|▲|▲
▲|▲|▲

▲|▲|▲

What O's?
 
2012-10-08 09:22:57 PM  

enik: Celain: enik: I know that Blizzard has acknowledged this, but that video clearly shows it happening on a private server.

And by private server, you mean Die Nachtwache, one of Blizzards german servers.

About 15 seconds in it shows a 'Wowplus private' window which includes a teleport button. I don't play WoW, but it certainly looks like he's on a private server.


That was the hack app, idiot.
 
2012-10-08 09:28:56 PM  
He's a goddamn butthole!
 
2012-10-08 09:34:21 PM  

PsyLord: steamingpile: PsyLord: BumpInTheNight: cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....

Well its partially because they're such a gigantic juicy target and they *really* want you to buy their stupid little hardware dongle. I watched my blizzard account get hacked over the course of a few emails saying this and that was happening to the account...and my reaction (fresh on the heels of putting in a whopping 6 hours into D3) was pretty much this:

[art.penny-arcade.com image 800x401]

Odd, my GW and GW2 accounts have never been hacked.

Because nobody cares, its like why so few hack Macs, they want to make a big splash and gw just isn't worth it, I still have an account somewhere but I forget how I set it up or my logins. I wonder if they are having fun doing nothing.

1/10 since I'm replying with this comment.


Well its true
 
2012-10-08 09:51:49 PM  

Alonjar: I hate EVE so much. I WANT to love it... but I've come to the conclusion that I cannot play it because travel just takes too damn long.

EVE is supposed to be UO in space... but UO had lots of fast transportation methods.



I would agree that UO did transport perfectly. Sure, a teleport directly to a specific point seems like it'd take away the atmosphere, but when you died and became a ghost, with your possessions on your corpse (including the ingredients to use teleport), you'd be reminded just how far away from town you were.

"Thou hath strayed from the path of virtue, but thou still deservedeth a second chance."
 
2012-10-08 10:02:07 PM  

PsyLord: steamingpile: PsyLord: BumpInTheNight: cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....

Well its partially because they're such a gigantic juicy target and they *really* want you to buy their stupid little hardware dongle. I watched my blizzard account get hacked over the course of a few emails saying this and that was happening to the account...and my reaction (fresh on the heels of putting in a whopping 6 hours into D3) was pretty much this:

[art.penny-arcade.com image 800x401]

Odd, my GW and GW2 accounts have never been hacked.

Because nobody cares, its like why so few hack Macs, they want to make a big splash and gw just isn't worth it, I still have an account somewhere but I forget how I set it up or my logins. I wonder if they are having fun doing nothing.

1/10 since I'm replying with this comment.


LOL weird, just today I got an email to an old account saying that someone is trying to change my password, is someone messing with me?!1?!
 
2012-10-08 10:18:30 PM  

cretinbob: World of Warcraft seems to have the shiattiest security of all the games out there. I had a trial account that got hacked, and now I get warnings about my Diablo III account...which I don't have....


There are a LOT of phishing attempts pretending to be emails from Blizzard. Just be careful about what links you click.
 
2012-10-08 10:55:16 PM  

reimanr06: There are a LOT of phishing attempts pretending to be emails from Blizzard. Just be careful about what links you click.


This is a big problem, I wasnt even playing but the GFs kid and his friend were playing on mine and his account then clicked on an email that popped up on my computer, needless to say 2 weeks later I finally got all my crap back probably could have been quicker but I play infrequently so I didnt try that hard.
 
2012-10-08 11:44:37 PM  

reimanr06: There are a LOT of phishing attempts pretending to be emails from Blizzard. Just be careful about what links you click.


Oh yes there are. I've only gone through Blizzards own website, as some of the emails have shown up as spoofing. I just ignore them now.
 
2012-10-09 08:24:30 AM  

Baron Harkonnen: Know who else tried to destroy an entire race of evil ogres?


MY MOM
 
2012-10-09 12:27:25 PM  

Brainz: enik: Celain: enik: I know that Blizzard has acknowledged this, but that video clearly shows it happening on a private server.

And by private server, you mean Die Nachtwache, one of Blizzards german servers.

About 15 seconds in it shows a 'Wowplus private' window which includes a teleport button. I don't play WoW, but it certainly looks like he's on a private server.

That was the hack app, idiot.


Yeah, World of Warcraft handles character location entirely on the client side. This has some advantages (it's impossible to lag straight off a cliff, one less thing for the servers to deal with, etc.) but the drawback is that it's relatively easy to screw with since all you need to do is hack the client.
 
2012-10-09 01:27:23 PM  

Alonjar: I hate EVE so much. I WANT to love it... but I've come to the conclusion that I cannot play it because travel just takes too damn long.

EVE is supposed to be UO in space... but UO had lots of fast transportation methods.


griefers ruined it for me i barly get my second ship and what da ya know some jackass comes by and destroys it just because hes bord. even if its my own faction.
 
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