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2012-10-08 03:59:57 AM
Pffft... hipsters.
 
2012-10-08 04:00:30 AM
On the plus side, she will soon be the owner of a bar.
 
2012-10-08 04:00:36 AM
Don't care. From her pics she looks like a stuck up conceited biatch who probably deserves to die.
 
2012-10-08 04:01:57 AM
I don't think the bar did their research, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to drink the stuff.
 
2012-10-08 04:02:32 AM
*sigh* Molecular gastronomy is pretty much over folks. If you want a drink that smokes like a magic potion, use dry ice. It's safer.
 
2012-10-08 04:06:05 AM
Ahhhh, 1977. A great vintage.
 
2012-10-08 04:10:08 AM

taurusowner: Don't care. From her pics she looks like a stuck up conceited biatch who probably deserves to die.


You sound fat.
 
2012-10-08 04:15:17 AM
People can decry the "nanny state" all they want, but events like this sort of puts it into perspective.

Social Darwinism is something I'm against, so I must say, in a depressing tone:
It seems that there needs to be a law introduced to ban or discourage the consumption of liquid nitrogen. 

Our society takes care of the weak and that includes the educationally deficient.
 
2012-10-08 04:28:19 AM

God-is-a-Taco: It seems that there needs to be a law introduced to ban or discourage the consumption of liquid nitrogen.


In this case, there's no need to ban liquid nitrogen. This is a case of poisoning by someone who was working with hazardous chemicals without knowing what he was doing. Just make the bartender (and perforce, the business) liable for injuries caused by the drinks. If a bartender can be found liable for her DUI-induced vehicular homicide, he can be found liable for poisoning her.

/this applies in the US, I don't know about the UK
 
2012-10-08 04:30:43 AM
taurusowner Don't care. From her pics she looks like a stuck up conceited biatch who probably deserves to die.

Is that from her personal motto on Twitter? 

/'Stomach removal' is the new burned by flaming cocktail
 
2012-10-08 04:43:27 AM

dai the flu: taurusowner: Don't care. From her pics she looks like a stuck up conceited biatch who probably deserves to die.

You sound fat.


Haha not anymore, but still bitter ;)
 
2012-10-08 04:49:45 AM

Z-clipped: God-is-a-Taco: It seems that there needs to be a law introduced to ban or discourage the consumption of liquid nitrogen.

In this case, there's no need to ban liquid nitrogen. This is a case of poisoning by someone who was working with hazardous chemicals without knowing what he was doing. Just make the bartender (and perforce, the business) liable for injuries caused by the drinks. If a bartender can be found liable for her DUI-induced vehicular homicide, he can be found liable for poisoning her.

/this applies in the US, I don't know about the UK


You bring up a great point. Ever since we've made bartenders liable for DUI deaths, I haven't heard of anyone driving drunk after drinking at a bar.
 
2012-10-08 04:52:04 AM
Nor have I heard of anyone

Atomic Spunk: Z-clipped: God-is-a-Taco: It seems that there needs to be a law introduced to ban or discourage the consumption of liquid nitrogen.

In this case, there's no need to ban liquid nitrogen. This is a case of poisoning by someone who was working with hazardous chemicals without knowing what he was doing. Just make the bartender (and perforce, the business) liable for injuries caused by the drinks. If a bartender can be found liable for her DUI-induced vehicular homicide, he can be found liable for poisoning her.

/this applies in the US, I don't know about the UK

You bring up a great point. Ever since we've made bartenders liable for DUI deaths, I haven't heard of anyone driving drunk after drinking at a bar.


You bring up a great point. Ever since we've made driving while intoxicated illegal, I haven't heard of anyone driving drunk after drinking at a bar.
 
2012-10-08 04:56:53 AM
Jesus. I can;t imagine how much that hurt going down.
 
2012-10-08 05:01:11 AM
What genius thought it was a good idea to put the liquid nitrogen in the drinks? Also, how do you think it's a good idea to ingest such concoctions? Everyone involved in this story should just pack it in and become an hero.
 
2012-10-08 05:03:22 AM
Yet another sufferer of Kirby syndrome, thinking they can swallow anything and gain magical powers.

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2012-10-08 05:05:48 AM
If I remember correctly, a liter of liquid nitrogen expands to about 0.7 cubic meters (700 liters) of gas when it heats up (aka room temperature). So you have quite a bit of expansion (and therefore pressure) to deal with, not to mention nitrogen has to be seriously cold to be liquid in the first place.

Sounds like the bartender should leave playing with this to chemists and physicists (and the occasional Mythbutster)
 
2012-10-08 05:12:00 AM

taurusowner: Don't care. From her pics she looks like a stuck up conceited biatch who probably deserves to die.


I'd say from her pics she looks more like Dick Tracy Villain "The Brow" 's granddaughter

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-10-08 05:13:29 AM

God-is-a-Taco: Social Darwinism is something I'm against


Not me. If someone wants to go out and drink gasoline to see how it tastes, cut of their balls because they were "double dog-dared", "ghost ride their whip" or drink liquid nitrogen, well, I say let them have at it.

I mean, for fark's sake.... this girl must not have only failed her basic science classes, she must have been she must have been actively not giving a shiat to not know liquid nitrogen+body tissue=bad news. Christ, I bet there are rednecks living in the mountains of West Virginia who make moonshine in the radiator of an Oldsmobile while mounting their sisters that are saying to themselves "what a dumb biatch."
 
2012-10-08 05:20:08 AM

Atomic Spunk: You bring up a great point. Ever since we've made bartenders liable for DUI deaths, I haven't heard of anyone driving drunk after drinking at a bar.


I'm not saying it's right that bartenders (and waiters) are liable... I'm saying that if you can take liability that far, you can certainly justify it for a case of poisoning. I mean, if a chef serves someone bad seafood, or a sorbet full of glass shards, the restaurant is liable for damages, right? You have a problem with that idea in principle?

FedExPope: What genius thought it was a good idea to put the liquid nitrogen in the drinks?


medias2.cafebabel.com
WASSUP?

The nitro is supposed to evaporate out of the cocktail before you drink it. You can make some pretty cool shiat with the stuff too. Like cocktails you can drink upside-down. But you really need to know what you're doing if you're going to use dangerous chemicals in your food prep.
 
2012-10-08 05:21:13 AM
Ok, maybe I'm missing something here. When they say they removed her stomach, do they mean the whole thing? How do you live without a stomach? It seems like you kinda need one of those.

Am I being dense? It's late/early.
 
2012-10-08 05:21:22 AM

RoxtarRyan: God-is-a-Taco: Social Darwinism is something I'm against

Not me. If someone wants to go out and drink gasoline to see how it tastes, cut of their balls because they were "double dog-dared", "ghost ride their whip" or drink liquid nitrogen, well, I say let them have at it.

I mean, for fark's sake.... this girl must not have only failed her basic science classes, she must have been she must have been actively not giving a shiat to not know liquid nitrogen+body tissue=bad news. Christ, I bet there are rednecks living in the mountains of West Virginia who make moonshine in the radiator of an Oldsmobile while mounting their sisters that are saying to themselves "what a dumb biatch."


My earliest memories of liquid nitrogen was a film in science. The scientist (wearing thick rubber gloves and eye protection) dipped a flower into liquid nitrogen, then pulled it out and tapped it on the table. The flower shattered into tiny pieces. I wouldnt touch that stuff with my bare hands, much less drink it.
 
2012-10-08 05:25:22 AM

cduke23: Ok, maybe I'm missing something here. When they say they removed her stomach, do they mean the whole thing? How do you live without a stomach? It seems like you kinda need one of those.

Am I being dense? It's late/early.


images1.wikia.nocookie.net

No worries. They'll just install a phone in its place. She be able to order easy-to-digest smoothies and such.
 
2012-10-08 05:26:24 AM

RoxtarRyan: I mean, for fark's sake.... this girl must not have only failed her basic science classes, she must have been she must have been actively not giving a shiat to not know liquid nitrogen+body tissue=bad news.


She had no reason to believe that the drink would hurt her. This food prep technique has been around for at least 20 years now, Mr. Basic Science Class. The bartender just farked up the recipe, and made her something that was unsafe. Not her fault in the least, unless she grabbed the drink off his station and slammed it before he was done mixing it.
 
2012-10-08 05:33:41 AM

Atomic Spunk: I wouldnt touch that stuff with my bare hands, much less drink it.


I've held it in my bare hands. it's not really a big deal. You just have to keep it moving, or it will give you a little spot of frostbite.

At Minibar in DC, they used to dip popcorn in nitro, and give you a little cube of it to eat. You were supposed to look at the person sitting next to you while you ate it, because as soon as you exhale after chewing, smoke would come out of your nose. They called it "Dragon's Breath Popcorn".
 
2012-10-08 05:37:53 AM

Z-clipped: Atomic Spunk: You bring up a great point. Ever since we've made bartenders liable for DUI deaths, I haven't heard of anyone driving drunk after drinking at a bar.

I'm not saying it's right that bartenders (and waiters) are liable... I'm saying that if you can take liability that far, you can certainly justify it for a case of poisoning. I mean, if a chef serves someone bad seafood, or a sorbet full of glass shards, the restaurant is liable for damages, right? You have a problem with that idea in principle?

Yes, because it doesn't work. First of all, they're already liable, but it didn't prevent this from occurring. The problem in this case is they didn't know how dangerous it was. If a person doesn't think something is very dangerous, the fear of liability won't be a deterrent to serving it.

Second, most of the bartenders I've known are pretty damn poor. Since many have so little in the way of assets, it's not as if the fear of liability is really something that dictates their actions. You successfully sue a bartender and you'll end up owning a couple surfboards, a bong, and a rusted out '87 Toyota Corolla.

Just make it illegal for restaurants and bars to serve liquid nitrogen for ingestion.
 
2012-10-08 05:38:01 AM

RoxtarRyan:
I mean, for fark's sake.... this girl must not have only failed her basic science classes, she must have been she must have been actively not giving a shiat to not know liquid nitrogen+body tissue=bad news. Christ, I bet there are rednecks living in the mountains of West Virginia who make moonshine in the radiator of an Oldsmobile while mounting their sisters that are saying to themselves "what a dumb biatch."


True, but the business was selling it. Regulations usually mean bars aren't able to sell drinks that melt stomachs.
Also, apparently this is a fad I managed to be unaware of judging by the comments in the thread since my preceding remark?


Those hipster chefs sure do come up with weird stuff.
 
2012-10-08 05:41:52 AM
Campmates brought a dewar of liquid nitrogen to Burning Man this year. They were making up some fun (and fun to make) concoctions... instant slushy/frozen coconut water, slushy mimosas and, my favorite, frozen coffee.

They are hosting a liquid nitrogen cooking party in a couple of weeks. I'm tempted to fly from San Francisco to LA to partake.
 
2012-10-08 05:54:35 AM

taurusowner: dai the flu: taurusowner: Don't care. From her pics she looks like a stuck up conceited biatch who probably deserves to die.

You sound fat.

Haha not anymore, but still bitter ;)


You sound flabby.
 
2012-10-08 06:14:38 AM

Atomic Spunk: Yes, because it doesn't work.


Wait, so because one girl got hurt, the entire system of liability "doesn't work"? Pull the other one.

Atomic Spunk: First of all, they're already liable, but it didn't prevent this from occurring.


But it did work in the other 99.999% of cases where people eat and drink in restaurants. Making a law over one isolated accident is a farking idiotic waste of time and money.

Atomic Spunk: Second, most of the bartenders I've known are pretty damn poor. Since many have so little in the way of assets, it's not as if the fear of liability is really something that dictates their actions. You successfully sue a bartender and you'll end up owning a couple surfboards, a bong, and a rusted out '87 Toyota Corolla.


Way to generalize about an entire profession, asswipe. A lot of the bartenders I know are better at bartending than you've ever been at anything in your life, and could probably buy and sell your ass ten times over.

Besides, I've already said it's not ultimately the bartenders who should be held liable. It's the business. The owner is the one who hired the idiot manager that allowed the numbnuts bartender to use nitro at the bar without knowing what he was doing.

Atomic Spunk: Just make it illegal for restaurants and bars to serve liquid nitrogen for ingestion.


You're confused. Liquid nitrogen is not served for ingestion. It's part of food prep. If a chef loses his mind and serves your bang bang shrimp in a red hot pan filled with three inches of fryer oil, and you get burned, are you going to want to ban saute pans and oil in restaurants too?
 
2012-10-08 06:31:24 AM

Z-clipped:
A lot of the bartenders I know are better at bartending than you've ever been at anything in your life, and could probably buy and sell your ass ten times over.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ..........

HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Nice one. Yeah those bartenders sure make serious money! Ten times over? He he he he!!!

Agree to disagree on your other points
 
2012-10-08 06:34:03 AM

Atomic Spunk: Z-clipped: Atomic Spunk: ...and a rusted out '87 Toyota Corolla.


I loved my '87 Corolla.

/not a bartender
 
2012-10-08 06:45:43 AM
As someone who played with liquid nitrogen countless times in physics lab, this bartender really had no clue what he was doing. The stuff evaporates fairly quickly so there's no reason there should have been some remaining in the drink.

Don't find the idea for the cocktail asinine at all though, as I've made stuff like liquid nitrogen ice cream loads of times for various physics events, and messed around freezing various foods for fun too (marshmallows and Cheetos work particularly well). You just need to make sure there's none remaining in a crack of clothing or skin/ take off jewelry else you'll get a touch of frostbite or worse.
 
2012-10-08 06:58:43 AM
That upside down cocktail looks asinine. It's just begging for someone to ingest some liquid nitrogen.
 
2012-10-08 07:02:41 AM

Atomic Spunk: Z-clipped:
A lot of the bartenders I know are better at bartending than you've ever been at anything in your life, and could probably buy and sell your ass ten times over.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ..........

HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Nice one. Yeah those bartenders sure make serious money! Ten times over? He he he he!!!

Agree to disagree on your other points


LOL, what a jerk.

Psst... A lot of bartenders own bars, restaurants, breweries and distilleries. But let me guess, you're a heart surgeon/rocket scientist, right?

I guess "agree to disagree" is the new, "I got nothin" huh?
 
2012-10-08 07:05:46 AM

jakewastaken: That upside down cocktail looks asinine. It's just begging for someone to ingest some liquid nitrogen.


Yeah, I guess that's why we hear about it happening so often.
 
2012-10-08 07:07:59 AM
Idea for cocktails:

Instead of liquid nitrogen, use argon! Then everybody gets low voices, fun all around!

(Argon for men, helium for women?
 
2012-10-08 07:09:54 AM

Norwegian Squirrel: Idea for cocktails:

Instead of liquid nitrogen, use argon! Then everybody gets low voices, fun all around!

(Argon for men, helium for women?


Miniature American flags for others?
 
2012-10-08 07:14:20 AM
She should've stuck with the Cyanide Slammers.
 
2012-10-08 07:21:44 AM

cduke23: Ok, maybe I'm missing something here. When they say they removed her stomach, do they mean the whole thing? How do you live without a stomach? It seems like you kinda need one of those.

Am I being dense? It's late/early.


I'm kinda wondering that, too. Did they fix it and put it back, or what?
 
2012-10-08 07:47:03 AM

Z-clipped: jakewastaken: That upside down cocktail looks asinine. It's just begging for someone to ingest some liquid nitrogen.

Yeah, I guess that's why we hear about it happening so often.


How many of these upside down drinks do you think have honestly been prepared and served as such? Was that an example of what could be done, or a real product you can show me from a bar someplace?
 
2012-10-08 07:57:35 AM

mutterfark: Ahhhh, 1977. A great vintage.


Nicely done...

I think this is the joke you were going for (scroll down to "1977")
 
2012-10-08 08:34:25 AM

cduke23: Ok, maybe I'm missing something here. When they say they removed her stomach, do they mean the whole thing? How do you live without a stomach? It seems like you kinda need one of those.

Am I being dense? It's late/early.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastrectomy

You can live without your stomach, but it does make digestion more difficult (obviously). It especially sucks in her case since she's so young, she'll have to deal with this for a long time.
 
2012-10-08 08:41:30 AM

jakewastaken:
How many of these upside down drinks do you think have honestly been prepared and served as such? Was that an example of what could be done, or a real product you can show me from a bar someplace?


Holy crap, are you serious? Hundreds of thousands. Yes, of course restaurants serve drinks like this. In fact, if you were to look at a list of the top ten best restaurants in the world, ALL of them are using techniques like this in their cuisine, and have been for the last 10 years at least. The mixology is just an offshoot and reapplication of the techniques guys like Ferran Adria invented: foams, powders, gels, airs, spherification, liquid nitrogen. This is not a new thing, by any means. It's just starting to be picked up by some smaller mainstream places that want to be "hip".
 
2012-10-08 09:14:52 AM
Nice wrinkly forehead she has there. When she wears a hat, does she have to screw it on?
 
2012-10-08 09:16:32 AM

Atomic Spunk: Z-clipped: Atomic Spunk: You bring up a great point. Ever since we've made bartenders liable for DUI deaths, I haven't heard of anyone driving drunk after drinking at a bar.

I'm not saying it's right that bartenders (and waiters) are liable... I'm saying that if you can take liability that far, you can certainly justify it for a case of poisoning. I mean, if a chef serves someone bad seafood, or a sorbet full of glass shards, the restaurant is liable for damages, right? You have a problem with that idea in principle?

Yes, because it doesn't work. First of all, they're already liable, but it didn't prevent this from occurring. The problem in this case is they didn't know how dangerous it was. If a person doesn't think something is very dangerous, the fear of liability won't be a deterrent to serving it.

Second, most of the bartenders I've known are pretty damn poor. Since many have so little in the way of assets, it's not as if the fear of liability is really something that dictates their actions. You successfully sue a bartender and you'll end up owning a couple surfboards, a bong, and a rusted out '87 Toyota Corolla.

Just make it illegal for restaurants and bars to serve liquid nitrogen for ingestion.


Ah yes, reactionary laws. The same type of mindset that brought us the PATRIOT act.
 
2012-10-08 09:27:56 AM

Z-clipped: *sigh* Molecular gastronomy is pretty much over folks.


Z-clipped: In fact, if you were to look at a list of the top ten best restaurants in the world, ALL of them are using techniques like this in their cuisine, and have been for the last 10 years at least. The mixology is just an offshoot and reapplication of the techniques guys like Ferran Adria invented: foams, powders, gels, airs, spherification, liquid nitrogen. This is not a new thing, by any means. It's just starting to be picked up by some smaller mainstream places that want to be "hip".


Know how I know you're a hipster?
 
2012-10-08 09:32:26 AM

cduke23: Ok, maybe I'm missing something here. When they say they removed her stomach, do they mean the whole thing? How do you live without a stomach? It seems like you kinda need one of those.

Am I being dense? It's late/early.


I recall seeing something where a guy had swallowed bleach in an attempt to kill himself, doctors managed to save him, but not his stomach, they attached his intestines to his esophagus outside of his rib cage, when eating he'd move the food along with his fingers (pushing against the skin on his chest)

Not sure if they have a "better" way to do it now for this young lady, but I'd guess probably not

Tried to find some info on the guy but my google-fu is weak this morning, and I'm already late at starting work, sorry.
 
2012-10-08 09:42:03 AM
Ah my bad, Draino, not bleach, here we go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu2iJseYlOQ
 
2012-10-08 10:01:44 AM

Theaetetus: Know how I know you're a hipster?


16 years in the business. So, not so much.
 
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