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2012-10-07 11:51:13 PM
He skipped out on a $150 bill. How much did the DNA test cost?
 
2012-10-07 11:53:39 PM
I didn't think police did DNA testing for petty crimes or misdemeanors.
 
2012-10-08 01:15:22 AM
They went through all that time, and expense, just to give him an 8PM curfew for four months?
Damn, if you're into crime, that's the place to be.
 
2012-10-08 01:45:20 AM
DNA tests must be going down in price.
 
2012-10-08 01:47:31 AM

Ambivalence: I didn't think police did DNA testing for petty crimes or misdemeanors.


meh if the hotel owner is pissed off enough to pay for the testing to prove a point, sucks to be the dumbarse who skipped out on it.
 
2012-10-08 01:52:40 AM
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I didn't know I had DNA in my butt.
 
2012-10-08 01:53:19 AM
So there was semen on his toothbrush? And it was his?
 
2012-10-08 01:54:21 AM
So they found a toothbrush with his DNA in a room. Is that really evidence that he was a hotel guest that stayed there? Hardly. The toothbrush could have belonged to a woman who gave him a BJ in a back alley and then brushed her teeth with it. That toothbrush didn't prove anything (until he confessed, at least).


IANAL, but I have a good one who always smarts off to the cops when I call him and I can picture him saying something like that.
 
2012-10-08 01:58:15 AM

FishyFred: He skipped out on a $150 bill. How much did the DNA test cost?


That's what I'm wondering. I know it's far less than 10-15 years ago, but for a $100 hotel tab? And people act like there is only government waste in the US...
 
2012-10-08 01:58:20 AM
The parade of Monday morons begins in earnest.....
 
2012-10-08 01:58:36 AM
How long before they start busting people who dine & dash this way?
 
2012-10-08 02:04:25 AM

almandot: Ambivalence: I didn't think police did DNA testing for petty crimes or misdemeanors.

meh if the hotel owner is pissed off enough to pay for the testing to prove a point, sucks to be the dumbarse who skipped out on it.


What kind of hotel doesn't get payment in advance along with either a cash deposit or a credit card to cover additional expenses?

Actually, looking back, I remember staying in some bed-and-breakfast places in New England that handled all payment at checkout. BTW, if you're ever travelling around New England and you stay in a chain hotel, you're doing it wrong. I was there for a family reunion and everyone else was staying in $100+/night Holiday Inn type places. I showed them pictures of my $80/night room with a sitting area by the fireplace, mini-library, breakfast nook, huge 4-poster bed, writing desk, etc. I've been in apartments that were smaller.
 
2012-10-08 02:11:43 AM
FARKers hero worshipping lowlifes and applauding any lawyer's dodge that might let a guilty son of a biatch get away with something. That is tradition that will never change here.
 
2012-10-08 02:15:26 AM
fragMasterFlash: How long before they start busting people who dine & dash this way?

They could never bust someone that way. The only reason he got busted was because he admitted to it. I can't see the police in the US ever spending the time or money on a DNA test for a petty crime. Their labs are too backlogged with legitimate cases to deal with crap like that.
 
2012-10-08 02:16:05 AM

FishyFred: He skipped out on a $150 bill. How much did the DNA test cost?


$95.
 
2012-10-08 02:17:53 AM
mikaloyd: FARKers hero worshipping lowlifes and applauding any lawyer's dodge that might let a guilty son of a biatch get away with something. That is tradition that will never change here.

Yeah, it's really an outrage when someone who has been accused with a crime is afforded their constitutional right to defend themselves from the charges against them.
 
2012-10-08 02:20:40 AM
Why didn't they just charge the credit card he used when he checked in?
 
2012-10-08 02:20:58 AM

xl5150: So they found a toothbrush with his DNA in a room. Is that really evidence that he was a hotel guest that stayed there? Hardly. The toothbrush could have belonged to a woman who gave him a BJ in a back alley and then brushed her teeth with it. That toothbrush didn't prove anything (until he confessed, at least).


If I'm ever rightfully accused of a crime, I hope you're on my jury.
If I'm ever the victim of a crime and the cops caught the right guy, I hope you aren't on his jury.
 
2012-10-08 02:22:43 AM
Mithiwithi: If I'm ever rightfully accused of a crime, I hope you're on my jury.
If I'm ever the victim of a crime and the cops caught the right guy, I hope you aren't on his jury.



I've never served on a jury. I'm smart enough to get out of it.
 
2012-10-08 02:24:19 AM
Pray 4 Mojo: Why didn't they just charge the credit card he used when he checked in?

It sounded like this was a Bed & Breakfast type place. Those places are often run differently than hotels.
 
2012-10-08 02:33:52 AM

FishyFred: He skipped out on a $150 bill. How much did the DNA test cost?


Yeah, that's the obvious question. I too will not attempt to google and come back with useful information. I will simply quote and concur.
 
2012-10-08 02:35:37 AM

xl5150: Yeah, it's really an outrage when someone who has been accused with a crime is afforded their constitutional right to defend themselves from the charges against them.


Wales doesnt even have a Constitution there Thomas Jefferson
 
2012-10-08 02:40:25 AM
mikaloyd: xl5150: Yeah, it's really an outrage when someone who has been accused with a crime is afforded their constitutional right to defend themselves from the charges against them.

Wales doesnt even have a Constitution there Thomas Jefferson


I wasn't referring to this case in particular there, Professor Dumbass. Your post was decrying those of us on fark in general who point out that criminals are entitled to representation, with most of the stories being in the US. Nice attempt at being witty, though Thanks for trying.. Buh-bye.
 
2012-10-08 02:41:08 AM

xl5150: fragMasterFlash: How long before they start busting people who dine & dash this way?

They could never bust someone that way. The only reason he got busted was because he admitted to it. I can't see the police in the US ever spending the time or money on a DNA test for a petty crime. Their labs are too backlogged with legitimate cases to deal with crap like that.


You have said everything that needs to be said on this subject.
 
2012-10-08 02:44:37 AM
Trainee plasterer Stephen Evans, 29...

Idiot! You'll never make journeyman plasterer now.
 
2012-10-08 02:47:52 AM

xl5150: I wasn't referring to this case in particular


Well that explains why you are in this thread then doesnt it. To talk about seperate cases from different threads that are completely different from this one.
 
2012-10-08 02:51:31 AM
Next up FARKers will explain why on the moon this fellow is totally innocent because he only weighs 1/4 as much as in Wales.
 
2012-10-08 02:53:03 AM
mikaloyd: Well that explains why you are in this thread then doesnt it. To talk about seperate cases from different threads that are completely different from this one.

What you're saying would only work if the "tradition" you mentioned also only referred to this one single case in Wales.
 
2012-10-08 02:57:51 AM

xl5150: fragMasterFlash: How long before they start busting people who dine & dash this way?

They could never bust someone that way. The only reason he got busted was because he admitted to it. I can't see the police in the US ever spending the time or money on a DNA test for a petty crime. Their labs are too backlogged with legitimate cases to deal with crap like that.


Congratulations! You live somewhere where there is so much crime (or your police are so understaffed) you consider it reasonable and efficient to just ignore smaller offences.

You should boast about that some more.
 
2012-10-08 03:05:47 AM

xl5150: mikaloyd: Well that explains why you are in this thread then doesnt it. To talk about seperate cases from different threads that are completely different from this one.

What you're saying would only work if the "tradition" you mentioned also only referred to this one single case in Wales.


Tell me more about how he was screwed out of his constitutional rights. Even better if you can work his weight on the moon into it. Or wookies. Fight the good fight for this scandalous bastard and leave no legal or ethical stone go unmolested untwisted or unturned in his swift defense.

Its your interweb responsibility to bring the laser focused tunnel vision in to make sure no crime goes punished no justice is served and no sanity goes unpunished no matter the facts laws or country involved. Go get em Thomas Jefferson. You are a predictable but necessary evil to free interweb speech. Or something.
 
2012-10-08 03:15:26 AM
"He also pleaded guilty to a separate charge of theft after he stole a mobile phone, worth £500 ($795), from a bar in nearby Prestatyn."

WTF does a $795 cell phone look like?
 
2012-10-08 03:18:33 AM

Greymalkin: xl5150: fragMasterFlash: How long before they start busting people who dine & dash this way?

They could never bust someone that way. The only reason he got busted was because he admitted to it. I can't see the police in the US ever spending the time or money on a DNA test for a petty crime. Their labs are too backlogged with legitimate cases to deal with crap like that.

Congratulations! You live somewhere where there is so much crime (or your police are so understaffed) you consider it reasonable and efficient to just ignore smaller offences.

You should boast about that some more.


You consider it reasonable and efficient to get a DNA test for petty theft?
 
2012-10-08 03:23:45 AM
He's homeless. Where is he supposed to serve out his house arrest time?
 
2012-10-08 03:23:58 AM

Argyle82: "He also pleaded guilty to a separate charge of theft after he stole a mobile phone, worth £500 ($795), from a bar in nearby Prestatyn."

WTF does a $795 cell phone look like?


Next/gen iphone. It lets you speak directly to Steve Jobs beyond the grave. And it takes the old charger or the new charger. For 200 bucks more there are skin-apps to make it look like any other telephone ever produced from Alexander Bell's original onwards. Hipsters are mostly going with 1970s avocado pushbutton style while geeks are evenly split between realistic space shuttle phone and Star Trek communicator.
 
2012-10-08 03:25:01 AM

TheyCallThisWork: He's homeless. Where is he supposed to serve out his house arrest time?


Lil Chef's and Tesco
 
2012-10-08 03:39:37 AM

nytmare: FishyFred: He skipped out on a $150 bill. How much did the DNA test cost?

$95.


Not when you factor in the salaries of the people that collected it, maintained a flawless chain of evidence, handling, analysis etc etc.

$3000 is probably a conservative estimate.
 
2012-10-08 03:41:31 AM
I think this story will soon prove to be apocryphal.

In other words, I call shenannigans.

Trainee plasterer Stephen Evans

Give me a break.
 
2012-10-08 04:05:59 AM

Christian Bale: I think this story will soon prove to be apocryphal.

In other words, I call shenannigans.

Trainee plasterer Stephen Evans

Give me a break.


Yup. Probably. Scare tactics at best.
 
2012-10-08 04:11:30 AM

FishyFred: He skipped out on a $150 bill. How much did the DNA test cost?


It's not about the money. It's about sending a message.
 
2012-10-08 04:54:26 AM

mikaloyd: FARKers hero worshipping lowlifes and applauding any lawyer's dodge that might let a guilty son of a biatch get away with something. That is tradition that will never change here.


Thank you. That and the liberal bent drives me crazy but they're terribly clever creatures and I enjoy watching them.

What I don't get is how many point to the cost of the DNA test compared to the hotel tab and suggest it was wasteful - it may be a pittance compared to the damage this bloke could still be doing had he not been caught and shown to be a thief. Since he's now known to be a thief, future instances of such thieving can be used to enhance his punishment, ergo he's probably less likely to recommit.

Alien concepts to the cop haters and those who believe that government is there to stick it to them.
 
2012-10-08 04:58:36 AM
can people stop quoting xl5150 ? it i obvious she is a troll.
 
2012-10-08 05:26:16 AM
Guy sounds like a real winner. Got thrown out of the family home. Dude, you are 29.

And being homeless is why he did this. And being phoneless was why he stole the phone. And being wool-hole-less is why he raped your grandma.

This guy is going to be nothing but trouble until they stick him in the ground, which is why I advocate that we just going ahead and do that now, and save everyone some aggravation. It's not like he has redeeming qualities.

...because, it's about SURVIVAL out here.

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2012-10-08 05:31:21 AM
DNA test for theft of service? Nice.
 
2012-10-08 06:05:28 AM
He's 29 - and his mum kicked him out???
 
2012-10-08 06:09:03 AM

jtown: almandot: Ambivalence: I didn't think police did DNA testing for petty crimes or misdemeanors.

meh if the hotel owner is pissed off enough to pay for the testing to prove a point, sucks to be the dumbarse who skipped out on it.

What kind of hotel doesn't get payment in advance along with either a cash deposit or a credit card to cover additional expenses?



I think motel / B&B owners have a pretty good sense of what precautions they need to take, based on their clientele and the local population.

About 10 years ago, I was riding through rural Pennsylvania on a motorcycle trip. It was a little after midnight when I decided to stop for the night, and the little "Mom & Pop" motel I found had closed up for the night. But there was a sign in the office window that said "I'll be back at 7am - if you need a room, the keys to #8 are in the door". I checked, and sure enough, there they were. I got a much-needed shower and a good night's sleep. I had coffee with the owner the next morning, and he said that in twenty years, he had only ever had one person use the room without paying.

Obviously, the same policy wouldn't work everywhere - I'm sure there are places where the room would have been used as a temporary crack den and then stripped of everything that wasn't nailed down.
 
2012-10-08 07:19:48 AM

xl5150: Mithiwithi: If I'm ever rightfully accused of a crime, I hope you're on my jury.
If I'm ever the victim of a crime and the cops caught the right guy, I hope you aren't on his jury.


I've never served on a jury. I'm smart enough to get out of it.


not serving jury duty has nothing to do with intelligence. in your case it's not having pride in a citizens civic duty. a person with morals would be ashamed to make such a claim, but you're proud to boast. your parents did a poor job of raising you. you refuse to rise above their epic fail and be a better person. sleep good at night knowing you are a low life. i can imagine what your friends, neighbors and co-workers must say about you behind your back. hint: it's not good.
 
2012-10-08 07:51:11 AM

xl5150: So they found a toothbrush with his DNA in a room. Is that really evidence that he was a hotel guest that stayed there? Hardly. The toothbrush could have belonged to a woman who gave him a BJ in a back alley and then brushed her teeth with it. That toothbrush didn't prove anything (until he confessed, at least).


IANAL, but I have a good one who always smarts off to the cops when I call him and I can picture him saying something like that.


The dude stayed there for two days, they might have been able to recognize him.
 
2012-10-08 07:53:37 AM
I want to know why his mom kicked him out of the house.
 
2012-10-08 07:59:48 AM

FishyFred: He skipped out on a $150 bill. How much did the DNA test cost?


Not only that, a DNA test would only be useful to find him if he happened to already be in a database. I sort of doubt the whole story.
 
2012-10-08 08:04:50 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: So there was semen on his toothbrush? And it was his?


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