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2012-10-07 09:29:21 PM

Silverstaff: Is it easier to do in the UK?


It's The Sun. I'm surprised they didn't claim he was Bigfoot before his sex change.
 
xcv
2012-10-07 09:29:46 PM

Silverstaff: Is it easier to do in the UK?


A Westerner could just go to Thailand and get it done if they have the cash, no psych eval needed. The Thai doctors then take the detached penises and balls and transplant them onto local women, creating ladyboys.
 
2012-10-07 09:30:26 PM

JohnCarter: It's a man baby!!


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-07 09:36:07 PM

cman: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: attention span of a retarded fruit fly: This is why children should not be ok'd to get the surgery or take hormones to stop puberty.

I disagree. Children should have priority because once they hit puberty, there's no turning back and they end up looking like a man with breasts in a bikini.

This one is something that I struggle with. It is not a question of morals, but it is a question of safety. Is suppressing a natural occurrence in your body the right decision? Could it lead to medical issues down the road?


The body and its development are just physiological changes based on changes in hormones or whatnot. The larger problem I see is how, even under the care of professionals, you determine which cases are for real and which are just kids acting out.
 
2012-10-07 09:37:06 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: attention span of a retarded fruit fly: This is why children should not be ok'd to get the surgery or take hormones to stop puberty.

I disagree. Children should have priority because once they hit puberty, there's no turning back and they end up looking like a man with breasts in a bikini.


That seems more an argument we need to improve our tech than an argument we need to agree to everything an inexperienced immature unfully myelinated prepubescent nymph has to say.
 
2012-10-07 09:37:13 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: attention span of a retarded fruit fly: This is why children should not be ok'd to get the surgery or take hormones to stop puberty.

I disagree. Children should have priority because once they hit puberty, there's no turning back and they end up looking like a man with breasts in a bikini.


Is there any medical harm to delaying puberty? If not I don't see the problem. If there is, then it should not be delayed.
 
2012-10-07 09:37:47 PM
i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-10-07 09:40:04 PM

xcv: Silverstaff: Is it easier to do in the UK?

A Westerner could just go to Thailand and get it done if they have the cash, no psych eval needed. The Thai doctors then take the detached penises and balls and transplant them onto local women, creating ladyboys.


The penises aren't actually detatched. They're "degloved" and turned inside out to form a vagina with (hopefully) full sexual sensation.
 
2012-10-07 09:42:08 PM
If he gets a new penis, he should just attach it above his vagina hole so he can fark himself whenever he gets the urge.
 
2012-10-07 09:43:22 PM
i306.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-07 09:43:23 PM
Sorry pal, there's no such procedure as an addadicktome.
 
2012-10-07 09:45:20 PM

MattyBlast: Sorry pal, there's no such procedure as an addadicktome.


Sure there is. It's called being a woman at closing time.
 
2012-10-07 09:46:05 PM
I feel awful for this dude. Since my penis and testicles are absolutely enormous, I'd gladly offer to donate six or seven inches of my cock and 1/2 lb of my testicles so they can build him a new set of jiggly bits.
 
2012-10-07 09:47:48 PM
Maybe in the future, for contingencies like this, they should store the junk in the trunk.
 
2012-10-07 09:51:45 PM
doglover:

Humans cannot do a sex swap yet. It's just beyond our technical capacity.

If you are transgendered and confused, that's okay. Find yourself and come to grips with it. But be warned: if you actually go through with some kind of genital changing operations, there's no going back. EVER.


This is why I say live and dress as you feel, even take hormones, but don't have "sex-change" surgery. It's better to have some "non-fitting" parts than to have them removed and then regret it later.

Besides which, however you feel inside, once you get over say 16 most men make lousy-looking "women." Seriously. Having spent several of my formative years as a queer in the Francisco Bay area means I can almost always tell who wasn't born a woman if they decided to "transition" after they were old enough to vote. Sorry, but the vast majority of you will always be seen by anybody who knows what to look for as transsexuals, not women, regardless of which pronoun we use for you. (And the same goes for Thai ladyboys, by the way.)

Trangender does not have to equal transsexual. Stand up for your right to be a butch or a sissy. Make the world adapt to you for a change.
 
2012-10-07 09:52:13 PM

Je5tEr: Has he checked down on Second Avenue towards St. Mark's Place, where all those people sell used books and other junk on the street?


Coming here to post this. +1 there Je5ter
 
2012-10-07 09:53:08 PM

gideon: [i1.kym-cdn.com image 431x350]


Oh my God you sick little FARKer.
 
2012-10-07 09:53:12 PM
attention span of a retarded fruit fly:

This is why children should not be ok'd to get the surgery or take hormones to stop puberty.

Bingo.
 
2012-10-07 09:56:55 PM

MattyBlast: Sorry pal, there's no such procedure as an addadicktome.


Sure there is.

Get him a strap-on.
 
2012-10-07 09:58:03 PM

The One True TheDavid: Trangender does not have to equal transsexual. Stand up for your right to be a butch or a sissy. Make the world adapt to you for a change.


Being a sissy man does not at all correlate to being a female. It may make sense to you but to a transgender person it makes absolutely none.
 
2012-10-07 09:58:09 PM
www.denversfbookclub.com
 
2012-10-07 09:58:23 PM

Je5tEr: Has he checked down on Second Avenue towards St. Mark's Place, where all those people sell used books and other junk on the street?


I see what you did there.
 
2012-10-07 09:58:26 PM
hahahahah

sucks to be you
 
2012-10-07 10:02:53 PM

cman: PallMall: cman: What I meant was that I was wondering if they were looking for something that could have caused transgenderism. For all we know his transgenderism could have been a symptom, not the sickness itself.

Maybe he just liked the feel of a summer dress, and figured he had to be a chick to get the full-on experience.

WHOOPS!!

LOL @ the guy with no junk.

Grow up


That's funny coming from you
 
2012-10-07 10:06:19 PM
www.vitalbodies.net
 
2012-10-07 10:06:54 PM

Ed Finnerty: Women. They can never make up their minds.


To force lawyers to consider the argument, maybe? One of those "and you'll never get these details out of your head" kind of deals.
 
2012-10-07 10:11:25 PM
cman:

From what I know of transgendered folk, when they have that surgery they 100% of the time keep it.

Like they have any choice.


It is posible that his transgenderism came from mental illness, unlike the most common cause of genetics.

What? Genetically XY means male and XX means female. So what else could transsexualism come from but mental illness and/or congenital brain damage?


/Transgendered are the least represented in the LGBT group

They don't belong in the gay community. They say so: "I'm not gay, I'm transsexual." Aren't TSes capable of creating a community of, for and by themselves?


//They need more people speaking up for them
///They are more likely to kill themselves, they need our love


So do people who hear voices telling them to kill themselves and so on, like I have every day since Feb. 16, 1992. It takes me the maximum dose of two antidepressants to drag my ass through a typical day of hanging out on Fark and playing board games against the computer. (Antipsychotics don't stop these voices, they just make me groggy and give me dyskinesia.) So where's my farking pity party? Who speaks up for my kind around here? It's obvious to me that I won't die of "natural causes"; while you're slopping love around on people whose brains don't work right you could squirt a bit in my direction.

Sheesh.
 
2012-10-07 10:13:56 PM
Apparently there's also nothing they can do about a serious case of man hands.
 
2012-10-07 10:19:38 PM
i137.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-07 10:21:51 PM
That's what you get for defacing god's will.
 
2012-10-07 10:28:28 PM
Silverstaff:

Seriously, I thought before they let you have irreversible surgery they made 100% sure you were committed to this, and knew beyond a shadow of a doubt it's what you want and there is no going back.

But this article points out that it's possible to change your mind after the operation when it's too late. Or is "sex change" surgery supposed to be the one major decision that's impossible to regret later?

Personally I'd like to be 14 and in college again: this time I'd care more about amassing credits and all that than trying to lose my virginity, stay stoned from noon till 10 and babble to anyone who'd half-listen about how much we needed a revolution and what form it should take. At the time I was "100% sure" that I was committed to the life of an anarchist revolutionary and metaphysical rebel, that I'd never regret what I saw as refusing to jump through hoops for The Man. Do I get those 35 years back? Or do I have to live with what turned out to have been an unwise decision?

(At least I've still got my dingaling to play with.)
 
2012-10-07 10:32:32 PM
www.tg-films.info
 
2012-10-07 10:32:54 PM

BumpInTheNight: That's what you get for defacing god's will.


But glasses are OK?
 
2012-10-07 10:33:12 PM
Maybe he'd feel better if someone explained to him that, even if he still had his original equipment, it probably wouldn't work very well at his age.
 
2012-10-07 10:33:46 PM
Um, you break it, you bought it.

cman:

/Transgendered are the least represented in the LGBT group
//They need more people speaking up for them


Personally, the G(rand) BLT group would seem like it already gets enough appreciation.

/Friend of mine is a he to she trans, and knows she went through the toughest stretch of her life
//I still call her a transformer, because there's more than meets the eye
 
2012-10-07 10:35:45 PM

The One True TheDavid: doglover:

Humans cannot do a sex swap yet. It's just beyond our technical capacity.

If you are transgendered and confused, that's okay. Find yourself and come to grips with it. But be warned: if you actually go through with some kind of genital changing operations, there's no going back. EVER.

This is why I say live and dress as you feel, even take hormones, but don't have "sex-change" surgery. It's better to have some "non-fitting" parts than to have them removed and then regret it later.

Besides which, however you feel inside, once you get over say 16 most men make lousy-looking "women." Seriously. Having spent several of my formative years as a queer in the Francisco Bay area means I can almost always tell who wasn't born a woman if they decided to "transition" after they were old enough to vote. Sorry, but the vast majority of you will always be seen by anybody who knows what to look for as transsexuals, not women, regardless of which pronoun we use for you. (And the same goes for Thai ladyboys, by the way.)

Trangender does not have to equal transsexual. Stand up for your right to be a butch or a sissy. Make the world adapt to you for a change.


I agree, I've always seen much of what is involved in transgender as cultural rather than inate. Ie there is no gene for lipstick. Why mutilate your body? just wear the lipstick, i think both scenarios are on par socially and one dosnt snip your junk.
 
2012-10-07 10:41:15 PM

The One True TheDavid: Silverstaff:

Seriously, I thought before they let you have irreversible surgery they made 100% sure you were committed to this, and knew beyond a shadow of a doubt it's what you want and there is no going back.

But this article points out that it's possible to change your mind after the operation when it's too late. Or is "sex change" surgery supposed to be the one major decision that's impossible to regret later?

Personally I'd like to be 14 and in college again: this time I'd care more about amassing credits and all that than trying to lose my virginity, stay stoned from noon till 10 and babble to anyone who'd half-listen about how much we needed a revolution and what form it should take. At the time I was "100% sure" that I was committed to the life of an anarchist revolutionary and metaphysical rebel, that I'd never regret what I saw as refusing to jump through hoops for The Man. Do I get those 35 years back? Or do I have to live with what turned out to have been an unwise decision?

(At least I've still got my dingaling to play with.)


Good point of view but, is he willing to pay for it himself? That is the crux of the article. He wants the medical system to pay for the operation because he made a mistake. He also victimizes himself by saying the operation turned him lesbian. What a load of horseshiat. The operation fulfilled his wish to be a woman.
 
2012-10-07 10:41:45 PM
Ambivalence:

Being trapped in the wrong body is what would have made him switch in the first place. Maybe there is no "right" body for him.

There's no "right" body for me: I've always felt that I wasn't really human as the people around me are human, that I'm stuck in the wrong universe or the wrong reality or something. Maybe the next damn comet will bring a mothership to take me home.

But in the meantime I'll give up my "tackle" when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.
 
2012-10-07 10:41:57 PM
Angry inch???
 
2012-10-07 10:43:17 PM
ekonefe.files.wordpress.com

Mess with mother nature and this is what you get.
 
2012-10-07 10:46:20 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: attention span of a retarded fruit fly:

This is why children should not be ok'd to get the surgery or take hormones to stop puberty.

I disagree. Children should have priority because once they hit puberty, there's no turning back and they end up looking like a man with breasts in a bikini.


That's disgusting. I hope you're being sarcastic.

We don't let prepubescent children decide to smoke pot, drive, vote, buy bourbon, quit school or have sex with Uncle Ernie, why should we let them decide to have irreversible elective surgery?
 
2012-10-07 10:49:11 PM
MrHappyRotter:

I feel awful for this dude. Since my penis and testicles are absolutely enormous, I'd gladly offer to donate six or seven inches of my cock and 1/2 lb of my testicles so they can build him a new set of jiggly bits.

6/10. But then I'm half-drunk and half-asleep.
 
2012-10-07 10:52:29 PM

The One True TheDavid: Ambivalence:

Being trapped in the wrong body is what would have made him switch in the first place. Maybe there is no "right" body for him.

There's no "right" body for me: I've always felt that I wasn't really human as the people around me are human, that I'm stuck in the wrong universe or the wrong reality or something. Maybe the next damn comet will bring a mothership to take me home.

But in the meantime I'll give up my "tackle" when they pry it from my cold dead fingers dick rakes.


FTFY
 
2012-10-07 10:52:49 PM
Time to call the Borax Kid!
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2012-10-07 10:53:05 PM

TheEdibleSnuggie: Hasn't South Park done this already?


No .. No -- that was the Simpsons
 
2012-10-07 10:53:54 PM

The One True TheDavid: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: attention span of a retarded fruit fly:

This is why children should not be ok'd to get the surgery or take hormones to stop puberty.

I disagree. Children should have priority because once they hit puberty, there's no turning back and they end up looking like a man with breasts in a bikini.

That's disgusting. I hope you're being sarcastic.

We don't let prepubescent children decide to smoke pot, drive, vote, buy bourbon, quit school or have sex with Uncle Ernie, why should we let them decide to have irreversible elective surgery?


Well for one thing they'd have to go through a rigorous medical and psychological evaluation, so it's a few more hoops than a kid deciding to drink bourbon. However if bourbon were considered the best diagnosis by a panel of physicians and psychologists, I'd be fine with the kid having a swig every now and then also.
 
2012-10-07 10:54:53 PM

The One True TheDavid:
So where's my farking pity party? Who speaks up for my kind around here? It's obvious to me that I won't die of "natural causes"; while you're slopping love around on people whose brains don't work right you could squirt a bit in my direction.

Sheesh.


I've read about the rift between the LGB towards the T but this is the first time I've seen it "in person".

It's not a competition. You can champion gay rights and transgendered/sexual rights at the same time.
 
2012-10-07 10:55:07 PM

sleeps in trees: The One True TheDavid: Silverstaff:

Seriously, I thought before they let you have irreversible surgery they made 100% sure you were committed to this, and knew beyond a shadow of a doubt it's what you want and there is no going back.

But this article points out that it's possible to change your mind after the operation when it's too late. Or is "sex change" surgery supposed to be the one major decision that's impossible to regret later?

Personally I'd like to be 14 and in college again: this time I'd care more about amassing credits and all that than trying to lose my virginity, stay stoned from noon till 10 and babble to anyone who'd half-listen about how much we needed a revolution and what form it should take. At the time I was "100% sure" that I was committed to the life of an anarchist revolutionary and metaphysical rebel, that I'd never regret what I saw as refusing to jump through hoops for The Man. Do I get those 35 years back? Or do I have to live with what turned out to have been an unwise decision?

(At least I've still got my dingaling to play with.)

Good point of view but, is he willing to pay for it himself? That is the crux of the article. He wants the medical system to pay for the operation because he made a mistake. He also victimizes himself by saying the operation turned him lesbian. What a load of horseshiat. The operation fulfilled his wish to be a woman.


Very true, I do feel sad for this person, that FTA I gather couldn't accept themselves as a cross-dresser and then must have lied to therapist and from the pic probably never took the correct dosage of hormones and went through something that they had never fully thought out.
/Although that doesn't mean there aren't people that benefit greatly from transition and while surgery shouldn't be given to a minor hormone therapy works and can be reversed.
//And it stopping puberty it's just going the right one.
 
2012-10-07 10:55:13 PM
Ungrateful biatch.
 
2012-10-07 10:59:09 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Well for one thing they'd have to go through a rigorous medical and psychological evaluation


Again, I am left wondering if people have different experiences and expectations of psychologists than I.
 
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