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2012-10-07 10:53:08 PM  

Rich Cream: Ummm the teacher admitted to doing it and "apologized".
No fakery this time. Sorry.


Then WTF is her problem? Was she trying to get fired? It is hard to imagine any teacher saying something so stupid. I was a substitute teacher, and I watched every word out of my mouth. And I don't mean just swearing at the little farks or something. Geez, you have to watch everything.

I told some junior high kids once that people got put on death row because they were poor and black, and I was afraid I'd get some backlash for that. 

/and I only did that because my mother had died the day before, and I didn't give a fark.
 
2012-10-07 10:53:25 PM  

Lorelle: If the kid doesn't understand the potential consequences of wearing such a shirt, perhaps she shouldn't wear it in the first place.


Why should there be consequences from authority figures for simply showing support for a Presidential candidate?

doglover: Somacandra: I hope you're trolling. There should be no potential consequences for wearing "such a shirt" unless it defies an explicit universal dress code for everyone.

Which it obviously did.

When I was at the nude beach, I could rock out with my cock out. When I'm on the subway here in the city, very different rules apply.

When you're in junior high in the 80's wearing a shirt that was about events over 40 years old at that point, that's a very different situation than a girl in the 2012 wearing a political shirt from the current election cycle.

If you'd have worn your clever little shirt to school in 1949, I would expect your reception to be less warm at school, especially if your teacher was a vet.


Um...what? You have a copy of the school's dress code, do you? Care to provide a link? Also, care to explain why in hell wearing an Obama or Romney shirt to school would ever be forbidden or considered "controversial"?
 
2012-10-07 10:56:16 PM  

HighOnCraic: Since the early part of the 20th century, each LDS ward has organized its own Boy Scouting troop. Some LDS troops permitted black youths to join, but an LDS policy required that the troop leader to be the deacon quorum president (a priesthood office held by 12 and 13 year old non-black church members), thus excluding black children from that role. The NAACP filed a federal lawsuit in 1974 challenging this practice, and soon thereafter the LDS church reversed its policy.


But the point is that somewhere around 1980 or so, the Mormons did decide that God thought black people were no longer animals. That's awesome.
 
2012-10-07 10:57:08 PM  

TV's Vinnie: [i.imgur.com image 850x307]


So. Awesome.
 
2012-10-07 11:01:21 PM  

Cymbal: rynthetyn: gingerjet: Girl From The North Country: You know how I know this is fake? Any kid who would wear a Romney t-shirt is clearly homeschooled.

I know a number of families who homeschool their kids - and its largely due to idiot teachers like this one. And they're liberals.

/and scientists in most cases
//homeschooling because local schools suck or full of fundies
///the more diverse the education options the better I say

I was homeschooled, and while my parents were conservative, their reasons for homeschooling were more to do with people like the idiot teacher my brother had who taught them that the reason the Panama Canal was dug was because they wanted to divide North and South America. Most of my homeschooled friends from high school are doing stuff in the sciences or engineering and tech stuff now, I think at least in part because we all had parents who emphasized math and science's importance as being non-negotiable.

My siblings and I did get dragged along to a lot of Republican stuff growing up on the grounds that it was "educational," which I think it was. Although I'm not anywhere near a conservative Republican now, seeing the behind the scenes part of how political parties operate was hugely useful and educational. It's why I don't really have a problem with parents bringing their kids along to political events--even tea party ones, so long as the parents aren't trotting the kids out to give speeches or something (no kid should have to live down youtube videos of their middle school political opinions). I had no illusions about how the government and democracy and elections actually work because I saw so much before I was even old enough to vote.

CSB:
I know a guy at work and his kids are homeschooled. His wife is the one who made the decision though. He was completely against it but hey, she's got the pussy. Anyways, I always joke with him that if his wife is smart and knowledgeable enough to homeschool their kids, then she should be smart and knowledgeable enough to realize what a retarded and woefully incomplete learning and life experience homeschooling provides.


I will readily insist that not everyone should homeschool (and indeed, that many people definitely should not be homeschooling), but you're demonstrating your ignorance of the subject by insisting that homeschooling provides an incomplete learning and life experience. Sure, for some people that's true, but it's equally true that a lot of homeschoolers have broader educational and life experiences than the average kid in a traditional school setting.

I grew up in a community where 15% of 24-35 year olds have graduated from college. Of the people who have gone to college it's mostly kids slacking around at the community college for 3 or 4 year before transferring to the nearby 4 year state school where they dick around for another 3 or 4 years before they finally get a bachelors degree all without ever leaving home. My siblings and I talk about how unusual our life was in that we had parents who made sure that we learned math and science and took us to art museums and made sure we knew what was going on in the outside world because most of the kids who went to public and private school where we're from didn't have any of that--even the rich kids whose parents could afford it. It was the same for most of my homeschooled friends, who all grew up with a broader knowledge of the world around us than most of the kids in our community.
 
2012-10-07 11:02:26 PM  
This pretty much sums it up

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Now for you libtards that want to pull out your hair and scream at me. Normally I would spend an hour poking you with a stick, but I just got home and I'm a bit tired. So I'm just going to leave this here to express what I really believe about arguing with all you really amounts to. Then I'm going to go take a shower and watch a little TV.

1.bp.blogspot.com

Night All...
 
2012-10-07 11:02:34 PM  
I'm going to take a guess that the teacher is a black lady.

How dare her student show support for anyone but King-Obama.
 
2012-10-07 11:04:02 PM  

Mugato: HighOnCraic: Since the early part of the 20th century, each LDS ward has organized its own Boy Scouting troop. Some LDS troops permitted black youths to join, but an LDS policy required that the troop leader to be the deacon quorum president (a priesthood office held by 12 and 13 year old non-black church members), thus excluding black children from that role. The NAACP filed a federal lawsuit in 1974 challenging this practice, and soon thereafter the LDS church reversed its policy.

But the point is that somewhere around 1980 or so, the Mormons did decide that God thought black people were no longer animals. That's awesome.

I BELIIIIEEEEVE...that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people!

 
2012-10-07 11:04:08 PM  

jodaveki: TV's Vinnie: [i.imgur.com image 850x307]

So. Awesome.


This.
 
2012-10-07 11:12:17 PM  

Brick-House: This pretty much sums it up

[i30.servimg.com image 720x720]

Now for you libtards that want to pull out your hair and scream at me. Normally I would spend an hour poking you with a stick, but I just got home and I'm a bit tired. So I'm just going to leave this here to express what I really believe about arguing with all you really amounts to. Then I'm going to go take a shower and watch a little TV.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x550]

Night All...


See, if you'd taken the time to read the thread . . . oh, never mind.
 
2012-10-07 11:14:08 PM  
Brick-House:

That truly was the most half-assed troll ever. Bravo. No relevance or topicality, inflammatory imagery and some insults. Well, maybe quarter-assed.

/the most half assed-troll ever......nope, doesn't work past tense
 
2012-10-07 11:15:16 PM  

indylaw: jmadisonbiii: indylaw: cman: loveblondieo: Here's another article naming the teacher and reporting on some of the backlash she's gotten.

FTA: Sophomore Samantha Pawlucy said Gaymon called her out for wearing the shirt and told her it was analogous to the teacher, who is black, wearing a KKK shirt.

Jesus, a teacher said this?

We all know that we can always take the uncorroborated word of a partisan child hack as gospel.

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Yeah it usually ends badly.
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Is that supposed to be a rebuttal or something? I can't stand Al Sharpton.


YOU'RE A LEFTIE SO YOU MUST LOVE ALL LEFTIES AND HATE ALL RIGHTIES! JUST LIKE JMADISONBIII LOVES ALL RIGHTIES AND HATES ALL LEFTIES! YOU MUST SUPPORT YOUR TEAM!
 
2012-10-07 11:16:05 PM  

Theaetetus: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Bio-nic: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dress codes. How wurk?

Dress down Fridays, how work?

Reading comprehension, how work?

Idiocy, you work gud!

Well, YOU obviously have some reading comprehension issues. Or maybe you just didn't read all the comments cause you were just too close to having a posting orgasm?

Posting waaaaaay back in the thread, 2 1/4 hours ago:


"Just Another OC Homeless Guy [TotalFark] 2012-10-07 05:46:22 PM
tenpoundsofcheese: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dress codes. How wurk?

This was on a school dress down day when students could wear what they want.
/reading comprehension. How does that work for you? (apparently not very good)

DRTFA"

Dumbass: YOU

I don't think you really have the credibility to call other people names after you were called out for a stupid comment and admit you never read the article. Just take it and shut up, as to not dig yourself an even deeper hole.


Context, Context, Context! How does it work?

My admittedly dumb comment was about the contentof the article (and my not reading it), NOT about the idiocy of someone who didn't read the article.

Your dumb comment was about my supposed idiocy when you didn't even bother to read the farking comments.

That hole: I can't get into it because you're already in it.
 
2012-10-07 11:16:49 PM  

vegasj: I'm going to take a guess that the teacher is a black lady.

How dare her student show support for anyone but King-Obama.


Brick-House is in bed already. You sound tired too.

/amidoinitrite
 
2012-10-07 11:17:01 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dress codes. How wurk?

Funny, it was the Conservatives in this country who pushed schools to adopt dress codes in the first place.


Yeah, I think that was generally the case.

So?
 
2012-10-07 11:19:03 PM  

Brick-House: This pretty much sums it up

[i30.servimg.com image 720x720]

Now for you libtards that want to pull out your hair and scream at me. Normally I would spend an hour poking you with a stick, but I just got home and I'm a bit tired. So I'm just going to leave this here to express what I really believe about arguing with all you really amounts to. Then I'm going to go take a shower and watch a little TV.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x550]

Night All...


shiat and run

"conservatives" = pussies
 
2012-10-07 11:20:45 PM  
Teacher overreacted. Precious snowflake will get over it.
 
2012-10-07 11:21:37 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dwight_Yeast: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dress codes. How wurk?

Funny, it was the Conservatives in this country who pushed schools to adopt dress codes in the first place.

Yeah, I think that was generally the case.

So?


So, most school dress codes ban clothes that feature slogans or stances on controversial issues. And given how extraordinarily polarized the electorate is, the Presidential election is definitely a controversial issue. So it's entirely possible that this kid violated her school's dress code. And since conservatives pushed for dress codes in the first place, there's a certain "hoist by your own petard" feel to it.
 
2012-10-07 11:22:13 PM  

Fart_Machine: Teacher overreacted. Precious snowflake will get over it.


That.
 
2012-10-07 11:31:13 PM  

rynthetyn: My siblings and I talk about how unusual our life was in that we had parents who made sure that we learned math and science and took us to art museums and made sure we knew what was going on in the outside world because most of the kids who went to public and private school where we're from didn't have any of that--even the rich kids whose parents could afford it. It was the same for most of my homeschooled friends, who all grew up with a broader knowledge of the world around us than most of the kids in our community.


There are always exceptions, and you sound like a fairly normal well-adjusted and articulate person. But I may have to rethink that assessment if you seriously believe most homeschooled children have a broader knowledge of the world and have no lack of life experience in comparison to traditional schooled children.
 
2012-10-07 11:36:19 PM  

Somacandra: I have several students that wear Romney/Ryan t-shirts to my classes. No one's had any issues or told me about conflicts with other faculty. One of my graders is a Ron Paul fan and one of my best students last spring was a big Santorum fan. If you can't get past the fact that your students might have political opinions of their own and separate that out, that's a mark against your professionalism whether at the secondary, primary or collegiate level.


My American Government teacher was like you. He's awesome. He's very very liberal, but you'd never know it in his AP Gov Class.
 
2012-10-07 11:43:04 PM  

Mugato: HighOnCraic: Since the early part of the 20th century, each LDS ward has organized its own Boy Scouting troop. Some LDS troops permitted black youths to join, but an LDS policy required that the troop leader to be the deacon quorum president (a priesthood office held by 12 and 13 year old non-black church members), thus excluding black children from that role. The NAACP filed a federal lawsuit in 1974 challenging this practice, and soon thereafter the LDS church reversed its policy.

But the point is that somewhere around 1980 or so, the Mormons did decide that God thought black people were no longer animals. That's awesome.


It was just a very fortunate coincidence that that happened after they started taking a hit in the pocketbook.
 
2012-10-07 11:45:12 PM  

abb3w: Here, however, the principal made the teacher apologize, and there's an investigation ongoing. The kid has the right to wear the T-shirt; the teacher was in the wrong, and should get some remedial training on the bounds of student freedom of expression.


There's only one day that it wouldn't be appropriate: Election Day. And that's only if the school is a polling place.
 
2012-10-07 11:48:24 PM  

Bio-nic: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dress codes. How wurk?

Dress down Fridays, how work?

Reading comprehension, how work?

Idiocy, you work gud!


Even "dress down" can easily have rules. My HS we weren't allowed to wear shirts that had any writing on it.
 
2012-10-07 11:55:14 PM  
Nice to be reminded every now and then why I threw vegasj out the airlock.

With no suit.
 
2012-10-07 11:56:10 PM  

Rich Cream: Brick-House:

That truly was the most half-assed troll ever. Bravo. No relevance or topicality, inflammatory imagery and some insults. Well, maybe quarter-assed.

/the most half assed-troll ever......nope, doesn't work past tense


Be nice to Bricky. Didn't your mom ever tell you it's not nice to pick on the special kids?
 
2012-10-07 11:59:04 PM  

Kittypie070: Nice to be reminded every now and then why I threw vegasj out the airlock.

With no suit.


Heh, find any race thread and you will remember why you threw him out.
 
2012-10-08 12:04:24 AM  
Thankfully, we all know that the Fark Lib brigade would be just as willing to defend the teacher if the student was black wearing an Obama shirt and the teacher was white saying it was a black panther shirt.

/Both sides are equally bad, so let liberals suppress the political freedom of their opposition!
 
2012-10-08 12:04:38 AM  

Cymbal: rynthetyn: My siblings and I talk about how unusual our life was in that we had parents who made sure that we learned math and science and took us to art museums and made sure we knew what was going on in the outside world because most of the kids who went to public and private school where we're from didn't have any of that--even the rich kids whose parents could afford it. It was the same for most of my homeschooled friends, who all grew up with a broader knowledge of the world around us than most of the kids in our community.

There are always exceptions, and you sound like a fairly normal well-adjusted and articulate person. But I may have to rethink that assessment if you seriously believe most homeschooled children have a broader knowledge of the world and have no lack of life experience in comparison to traditional schooled children.


Reading comprehension, do you have it? I never said anything about most homeschooled children and I'd appreciate you not to put words in my mouth in order to create a straw man. It's intellectually dishonest on your part.

I will say that in real, non-internet, life, the normalcy of a person is inversely related to their willingness to tell you that they were homeschooled. Most of us bring it up as little as possible because we'd rather not trigger people's mental associations with the Duggars or Tim Tebow. The only reason I ever mention it IRL is because at the law school I go to there's an inexplicable preoccupation with where you went to high school (seriously, I graduated in '98, it has not been since '98 that I've had so many conversations that involve, "where did you go to high school?"). Point being, most people's perception of homeschoolers is skewed because the only ones who are public about it are ones who are weird and sheltered.
 
2012-10-08 12:08:09 AM  

rynthetyn: Cymbal: rynthetyn: My siblings and I talk about how unusual our life was in that we had parents who made sure that we learned math and science and took us to art museums and made sure we knew what was going on in the outside world because most of the kids who went to public and private school where we're from didn't have any of that--even the rich kids whose parents could afford it. It was the same for most of my homeschooled friends, who all grew up with a broader knowledge of the world around us than most of the kids in our community.

There are always exceptions, and you sound like a fairly normal well-adjusted and articulate person. But I may have to rethink that assessment if you seriously believe most homeschooled children have a broader knowledge of the world and have no lack of life experience in comparison to traditional schooled children.

Reading comprehension, do you have it? I never said anything about most homeschooled children and I'd appreciate you not to put words in my mouth in order to create a straw man. It's intellectually dishonest on your part.

I will say that in real, non-internet, life, the normalcy of a person is inversely related to their willingness to tell you that they were homeschooled. Most of us bring it up as little as possible because we'd rather not trigger people's mental associations with the Duggars or Tim Tebow. The only reason I ever mention it IRL is because at the law school I go to there's an inexplicable preoccupation with where you went to high school (seriously, I graduated in '98, it has not been since '98 that I've had so many conversations that involve, "where did you go to high school?"). Point being, most people's perception of homeschoolers is skewed because the only ones who are public about it are ones who are weird and sheltered.



That is really strange. I am pretty sure "What high school did you attend" never passed my lips (unless I was around 20 and making small talk to try to get laid). I emphasize "try". :)
 
2012-10-08 12:17:48 AM  
Not trying to threadjack but.... no Hugo Chavez thread?

/unless it's TF only right now

Rockstone: Somacandra: I have several students that wear Romney/Ryan t-shirts to my classes. No one's had any issues or told me about conflicts with other faculty. One of my graders is a Ron Paul fan and one of my best students last spring was a big Santorum fan. If you can't get past the fact that your students might have political opinions of their own and separate that out, that's a mark against your professionalism whether at the secondary, primary or collegiate level.

My American Government teacher was like you. He's awesome. He's very very liberal, but you'd never know it in his AP Gov Class.


My American Government professor in undergrad was really cute , and she did a good job of not revealing her leanings (this was during the Bush/Kerry deal). I always assume a lot of those folks are pretty liberal, though.
 
2012-10-08 12:18:24 AM  

Sabyen91: rynthetyn:
I will say that in real, non-internet, life, the normalcy of a person is inversely related to their willingness to tell you that they were homeschooled. Most of us bring it up as little as possible because we'd rather not trigger people's mental associations with the Duggars or Tim Tebow. The only reason I ever mention it IRL is because at the law school I go to there's an inexplicable preoccupation with where you went to high school (seriously, I graduated in '98, it has not been since '98 that I've had so many conversations that involve, "where did you go to high school?"). Point being, most people's perception of homeschoolers is skewed because the only ones who are public about it are ones who are weird and sheltered.


That is really strange. I am pretty sure "What high school did you attend" never passed my lips (unless I was around 20 and making small talk to try to get laid). I emphasize "try". :)


I think it has something to do with going to a state school. For being one of the most populous states, Florida can be weirdly provincial (hey, it's Florida, "weird" belongs as a modifier on everything in this state), and where you went to high school determines what circles you ran in and who you know. Having done the expensive private liberal arts school route for undergrad, it's a strange world. I understand Florida politics a heck of a lot better now though.
 
2012-10-08 12:24:55 AM  

rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn:
I will say that in real, non-internet, life, the normalcy of a person is inversely related to their willingness to tell you that they were homeschooled. Most of us bring it up as little as possible because we'd rather not trigger people's mental associations with the Duggars or Tim Tebow. The only reason I ever mention it IRL is because at the law school I go to there's an inexplicable preoccupation with where you went to high school (seriously, I graduated in '98, it has not been since '98 that I've had so many conversations that involve, "where did you go to high school?"). Point being, most people's perception of homeschoolers is skewed because the only ones who are public about it are ones who are weird and sheltered.


That is really strange. I am pretty sure "What high school did you attend" never passed my lips (unless I was around 20 and making small talk to try to get laid). I emphasize "try". :)

I think it has something to do with going to a state school. For being one of the most populous states, Florida can be weirdly provincial (hey, it's Florida, "weird" belongs as a modifier on everything in this state), and where you went to high school determines what circles you ran in and who you know. Having done the expensive private liberal arts school route for undergrad, it's a strange world. I understand Florida politics a heck of a lot better now though.


Florida isn't all that bad, and I think that has something to do with it. People are perfectly fine with going off to college in another city or state and come back to where they grew up. I don't know if that's exactly how it is everywhere else or not but I am only speaking in anecdotal terms. I grew up in South Florida and I think for many people they really miss the beach and the warm weather. I can imagine growing up in Fargo and wanting to get the fark out as soon as you get the chance with no looking back.
 
2012-10-08 12:25:03 AM  

Brick-House: This pretty much sums it up

[i30.servimg.com image 720x720]

Now for you libtards that want to pull out your hair and scream at me. Normally I would spend an hour poking you with a stick, but I just got home and I'm a bit tired. So I'm just going to leave this here to express what I really believe about arguing with all you really amounts to. Then I'm going to go take a shower and watch a little TV.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x550]

Night All...


The only thing I find disturbing is that you co-opted the image of a person who would probably disagree with you and everything you stand for.
 
2012-10-08 12:25:27 AM  

rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn:
I will say that in real, non-internet, life, the normalcy of a person is inversely related to their willingness to tell you that they were homeschooled. Most of us bring it up as little as possible because we'd rather not trigger people's mental associations with the Duggars or Tim Tebow. The only reason I ever mention it IRL is because at the law school I go to there's an inexplicable preoccupation with where you went to high school (seriously, I graduated in '98, it has not been since '98 that I've had so many conversations that involve, "where did you go to high school?"). Point being, most people's perception of homeschoolers is skewed because the only ones who are public about it are ones who are weird and sheltered.


That is really strange. I am pretty sure "What high school did you attend" never passed my lips (unless I was around 20 and making small talk to try to get laid). I emphasize "try". :)

I think it has something to do with going to a state school. For being one of the most populous states, Florida can be weirdly provincial (hey, it's Florida, "weird" belongs as a modifier on everything in this state), and where you went to high school determines what circles you ran in and who you know. Having done the expensive private liberal arts school route for undergrad, it's a strange world. I understand Florida politics a heck of a lot better now though.


Wisconsin must be really different. The majority of WI public schools are really good (don't include Milwaukee). WI does very well in the ACT (we don't use the SAT) in our public schools. We really don't get the "Public schools are bad" meme the right is selling.
 
2012-10-08 12:31:02 AM  
Caveat: The facts aren't all in.

However.

Based only on what we know, the majority of Fark Democrats will defend anything done against a Republican.

Sincere kudos to the few who said otherwise. Moral integrity is more important than partisan scorekeeping.

/Republican who condemns the right-wing crazies
 
2012-10-08 12:31:50 AM  

Brick-House: This pretty much sums it up

[i30.servimg.com image 720x720]

Now for you libtards that want to pull out your hair and scream at me. Normally I would spend an hour poking you with a stick, but I just got home and I'm a bit tired. So I'm just going to leave this here to express what I really believe about arguing with all you really amounts to. Then I'm going to go take a shower and watch a little TV.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x550]

Night All...


It's so cute when a dumbass thinks he's witty.
 
2012-10-08 12:32:31 AM  

Captain Dan: Caveat: The facts aren't all in.

However.

Based only on what we know, the majority of Fark Democrats will defend anything done against a Republican.

Sincere kudos to the few who said otherwise. Moral integrity is more important than partisan scorekeeping.

/Republican who condemns the right-wing crazies


Horseshiat.
 
2012-10-08 12:38:23 AM  

Captain Dan: Based only on what we know, the majority of Fark Democrats will defend anything done against a Republican.


You conservatives do like to generalize, don't you

/yes, I realize I just generalized
 
2012-10-08 12:39:21 AM  

eddiesocket:

I BELIIIIEEEEVE...that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people!


Though I have to wonder, why did this happen in 1978 of all years? Did God finally see an episode of Good Times up on the Planet Kolob?
 
2012-10-08 12:39:52 AM  

Sabyen91: rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn:
I will say that in real, non-internet, life, the normalcy of a person is inversely related to their willingness to tell you that they were homeschooled. Most of us bring it up as little as possible because we'd rather not trigger people's mental associations with the Duggars or Tim Tebow. The only reason I ever mention it IRL is because at the law school I go to there's an inexplicable preoccupation with where you went to high school (seriously, I graduated in '98, it has not been since '98 that I've had so many conversations that involve, "where did you go to high school?"). Point being, most people's perception of homeschoolers is skewed because the only ones who are public about it are ones who are weird and sheltered.


That is really strange. I am pretty sure "What high school did you attend" never passed my lips (unless I was around 20 and making small talk to try to get laid). I emphasize "try". :)

I think it has something to do with going to a state school. For being one of the most populous states, Florida can be weirdly provincial (hey, it's Florida, "weird" belongs as a modifier on everything in this state), and where you went to high school determines what circles you ran in and who you know. Having done the expensive private liberal arts school route for undergrad, it's a strange world. I understand Florida politics a heck of a lot better now though.

Wisconsin must be really different. The majority of WI public schools are really good (don't include Milwaukee). WI does very well in the ACT (we don't use the SAT) in our public schools. We really don't get the "Public schools are bad" meme the right is selling.


Public schools in Florida are either really good or really bad, there doesn't seem to be much in between. What drags down our test scores is more the fact that they're trying to educate a lot of non-native English speaking kids whose families move around a lot. Our public university system is great though, or at least it was until the GOP and Rick Scott started farking around with it--it used to be that anyone who wanted to go to college in Florida could make it happen and do so affordably.

If you really want to understand Florida politics and all of its craziness though, you have to understand how things operate at the University of Florida. The people who run the state today are the same ones who ran UF student government 20 years ago, and the people running UF student government today will be running the state in two decades, and the whole thing is, and always has been incredibly corrupt and shady and absurdly undemocratic. The reason Florida is incapable of running an election without shenanigans is because it's the same people who were incapable of running elections at UF without shenanigans going on. I've lived in this state most of my life, I've been in politics in this state for a good portion of my life, and a year and a half at UF has taught me more about how the state runs than anything else has.
 
2012-10-08 12:40:08 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Captain Dan: Based only on what we know, the majority of Fark Democrats will defend anything done against a Republican.

You conservatives do like to generalize, don't you

/yes, I realize I just generalized


He isn't condemning Romney so I am calling BS.
 
2012-10-08 12:41:31 AM  

beta_plus: Thankfully, we all know that the Fark Lib brigade would be just as willing to defend the teacher if the student was black wearing an Obama shirt and the teacher was white saying it was a black panther shirt.

/Both sides are equally bad, so let liberals suppress the political freedom of their opposition!


Uh, you did see the many comments from people who said that the teacher was wrong, right? Or are you a perpetual victim?
 
2012-10-08 12:42:10 AM  

rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn:
I will say that in real, non-internet, life, the normalcy of a person is inversely related to their willingness to tell you that they were homeschooled. Most of us bring it up as little as possible because we'd rather not trigger people's mental associations with the Duggars or Tim Tebow. The only reason I ever mention it IRL is because at the law school I go to there's an inexplicable preoccupation with where you went to high school (seriously, I graduated in '98, it has not been since '98 that I've had so many conversations that involve, "where did you go to high school?"). Point being, most people's perception of homeschoolers is skewed because the only ones who are public about it are ones who are weird and sheltered.


That is really strange. I am pretty sure "What high school did you attend" never passed my lips (unless I was around 20 and making small talk to try to get laid). I emphasize "try". :)

I think it has something to do with going to a state school. For being one of the most populous states, Florida can be weirdly provincial (hey, it's Florida, "weird" belongs as a modifier on everything in this state), and where you went to high school determines what circles you ran in and who you know. Having done the expensive private liberal arts school route for undergrad, it's a strange world. I understand Florida politics a heck of a lot better now though.

Wisconsin must be really different. The majority of WI public schools are really good (don't include Milwaukee). WI does very well in the ACT (we don't use the SAT) in our public schools. We really don't get the "Public schools are bad" meme the right is selling.

Public schools in Florida are either really good or really bad, there doesn't seem to be much in between. What drags down our test scores is more the fact that they're trying to educate a lot of non-native English speaking kids whose families move around a lot. Our public university system is great ...


I think the problem is a lot of native Floridians don't understand English. And by "a lot" I mean the panhandle. farking Southern Alabama.
 
2012-10-08 12:42:46 AM  

cmb53208: beta_plus: Thankfully, we all know that the Fark Lib brigade would be just as willing to defend the teacher if the student was black wearing an Obama shirt and the teacher was white saying it was a black panther shirt.

/Both sides are equally bad, so let liberals suppress the political freedom of their opposition!

Uh, you did see the many comments from people who said that the teacher was wrong, right? Or are you a perpetual victim?


Both sides are bad!!!!
 
2012-10-08 12:43:33 AM  
I have a hard time believing that a high school student with enough political awareness to own an Rmoney shirt somehow doesn't have any clue about her parent's political affiliation.

I also don't have much sympathy for people that whine to the press over something that was supposedly a joke. Even if the joke was in poor taste, a high school student is plenty old enough to shake it off. Why the hell are so many people's feelings so fragile? Teachers have spouted shiat to me that I disagree with, and it doesn't take that much self confidence to blow it off.

Man up, nancy.
 
2012-10-08 12:46:53 AM  

teeny: I have a hard time believing that a high school student with enough political awareness to own an Rmoney shirt somehow doesn't have any clue about her parent's political affiliation.

I also don't have much sympathy for people that whine to the press over something that was supposedly a joke. Even if the joke was in poor taste, a high school student is plenty old enough to shake it off. Why the hell are so many people's feelings so fragile? Teachers have spouted shiat to me that I disagree with, and it doesn't take that much self confidence to blow it off.

Man up, nancy.


Yeah, there is no way they don't know their parents' politics.
 
2012-10-08 12:50:51 AM  

Sabyen91: rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn:
I will say that in real, non-internet, life, the normalcy of a person is inversely related to their willingness to tell you that they were homeschooled. Most of us bring it up as little as possible because we'd rather not trigger people's mental associations with the Duggars or Tim Tebow. The only reason I ever mention it IRL is because at the law school I go to there's an inexplicable preoccupation with where you went to high school (seriously, I graduated in '98, it has not been since '98 that I've had so many conversations that involve, "where did you go to high school?"). Point being, most people's perception of homeschoolers is skewed because the only ones who are public about it are ones who are weird and sheltered.


That is really strange. I am pretty sure "What high school did you attend" never passed my lips (unless I was around 20 and making small talk to try to get laid). I emphasize "try". :)

I think it has something to do with going to a state school. For being one of the most populous states, Florida can be weirdly provincial (hey, it's Florida, "weird" belongs as a modifier on everything in this state), and where you went to high school determines what circles you ran in and who you know. Having done the expensive private liberal arts school route for undergrad, it's a strange world. I understand Florida politics a heck of a lot better now though.

Wisconsin must be really different. The majority of WI public schools are really good (don't include Milwaukee). WI does very well in the ACT (we don't use the SAT) in our public schools. We really don't get the "Public schools are bad" meme the right is selling.

Public schools in Florida are either really good or really bad, there doesn't seem to be much in between. What drags down our test scores is more the fact that they're trying to educate a lot of non-native English speaking kids whose families move around a lot. Our public university syste ...

I think the problem is a lot of native Floridians don't understand English. And by "a lot" I mean the panhandle. farking Southern Alabama.


It's not just the panhandle, it's all of north Florida. Jacksonville is just as bad.
 
2012-10-08 12:52:12 AM  

cmb53208: Uh, you did see the many comments from people who said that the teacher was wrong, right? Or are you a perpetual victim?


In his defense, the number of people condemning the teacher is far outweighed by the number claiming this was fabricated, or a publicity stunt, or some combination of the two. It's also outweighed by the number who said something like "well yes it was bad but conservatives are worse" and even by the number who said something like "Kids don't have 1st Amendment rights." And he noted that there were a few who did condemn the teacher. So 'few' may not have been the best term, but it's not too far off.
 
2012-10-08 12:52:29 AM  

rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn: Sabyen91: rynthetyn:
I will say that in real, non-internet, life, the normalcy of a person is inversely related to their willingness to tell you that they were homeschooled. Most of us bring it up as little as possible because we'd rather not trigger people's mental associations with the Duggars or Tim Tebow. The only reason I ever mention it IRL is because at the law school I go to there's an inexplicable preoccupation with where you went to high school (seriously, I graduated in '98, it has not been since '98 that I've had so many conversations that involve, "where did you go to high school?"). Point being, most people's perception of homeschoolers is skewed because the only ones who are public about it are ones who are weird and sheltered.


That is really strange. I am pretty sure "What high school did you attend" never passed my lips (unless I was around 20 and making small talk to try to get laid). I emphasize "try". :)

I think it has something to do with going to a state school. For being one of the most populous states, Florida can be weirdly provincial (hey, it's Florida, "weird" belongs as a modifier on everything in this state), and where you went to high school determines what circles you ran in and who you know. Having done the expensive private liberal arts school route for undergrad, it's a strange world. I understand Florida politics a heck of a lot better now though.

Wisconsin must be really different. The majority of WI public schools are really good (don't include Milwaukee). WI does very well in the ACT (we don't use the SAT) in our public schools. We really don't get the "Public schools are bad" meme the right is selling.

Public schools in Florida are either really good or really bad, there doesn't seem to be much in between. What drags down our test scores is more the fact that they're trying to educate a lot of non-native English speaking kids whose families move around a lot. Our public univer ...


Isn't Jax in the panhandle?
 
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