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(NBC News)   High school student wears Romney/Ryan T-shirt to class. Her teacher demands that she remove the shirt, leave the classroom, and go back to her Klan meeting   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 303
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2012-10-07 08:04:51 PM  
There isn't enough info here to really tell what the motivation was for wearing it, complaining about it, or what one said or the other said.

Maybe it was the only pink shirt she could find for the start of Breast Cancer Awareness month.

In which case, some fundies would be complaining about exposing their children to the implicit pornography (BREASTS!!!)

j/k...maybe
 
2012-10-07 08:05:15 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dress codes. How wurk?


Dress down Fridays, how work?

Reading comprehension, how work?

Idiocy, you work gud!
 
2012-10-07 08:05:35 PM  
You, you, and you. Your clothing offends me. Remove it immediately!

/and then come to my quarters.
//After bathing, of course.
 
2012-10-07 08:10:06 PM  

abb3w: Here, however, the principal made the teacher apologize, and there's an investigation ongoing.


You've no evidence for the proposition that the principal made the teacher apologize. At least not from this article. It's possible the teacher sincerely felt bad about what may very well have been a genuine misunderstanding.

It isn't that difficult imagine a teacher adopting a faux over-the-top tone and saying those things in jest. I said out loud, for example, that "my son can be gay if we wants, or religious if he wants, or whatever the hell he wants. Except a Republican. I'll disown him if he's a Republican."

I obviously don't mean it. Clearly I'll disown him for being religious too.

j/k

See how that works?

I love my boy unconditionally. I wouldn't disown him under any circumstances. But I can already see the headline if some biased reporter with a right-wing agenda got ahold of those words in a story worth reporting them: "Bigoted Liberal Threatens to Disown Son for Being Religious, Republican."
 
2012-10-07 08:11:53 PM  

bugontherug: abb3w: Here, however, the principal made the teacher apologize, and there's an investigation ongoing.

You've no evidence for the proposition that the principal made the teacher apologize. At least not from this article. It's possible the teacher sincerely felt bad about what may very well have been a genuine misunderstanding.

It isn't that difficult imagine a teacher adopting a faux over-the-top tone and saying those things in jest. I said out loud, for example, that "my son can be gay if we wants, or religious if he wants, or whatever the hell he wants. Except a Republican. I'll disown him if he's a Republican."

I obviously don't mean it. Clearly I'll disown him for being religious too.

j/k

See how that works?

I love my boy unconditionally. I wouldn't disown him under any circumstances. But I can already see the headline if some biased reporter with a right-wing agenda got ahold of those words in a story worth reporting them: "Bigoted Liberal Threatens to Disown Son for Being Religious, Republican."


And to be clear, we have good evidence the teacher really was joking: the article does not report that the teacher actually required the student to change her shirt.
 
2012-10-07 08:13:00 PM  
I guarantee if she was wearing an Obama/Biden t-shirt, everyone in this thread would be crying racism.
/Obama voter
//the bias on this website is quite obvious
///welcome to Fark, blah blah blah
 
2012-10-07 08:19:25 PM  

NewportBarGuy: She was then picked up by DHS and sent to the FEMA re-education camp. That filthy trollup will learn our ways!


I think you mean that pure, abstinent, Conservative, mother-of-ten-future-soldiers will learn to be a trollop!
 
2012-10-07 08:19:38 PM  
.Ric Romero reporting: Stupid high school kids often take after their parents when liking morons like Mitt Romney.

The girl will realize, after four years of college, that the GOP hates her uterus and is composed of morons. unfortunately, that's in the future.

If I'm honest, I would not eject her out of class. I would laugh at her stupidity for supporting the worst presidential candidate in the last 30 years. Hell, I laugh at suckers who put farking bumper stickers on their car for that loser.
 
2012-10-07 08:20:07 PM  
No surprise here. I am sure 90% of college professors vote for Dems... Does anyone dispute that? I wonder how high it is for High School teachers? 75%?? I love those "tolerant" liberals.

And now for my favorite shows tonight. Simpsons, Family Guy and American Dad. go figure...
 
2012-10-07 08:21:41 PM  
The teacher meant it as a joke? I can't come up with any possible situation where that conversation or any statement within it was funny. That has to be one of the most transparent excuses I think I've ever heard.

Personally, I think voting Republican IS like supporting the KKK...just because right wing bigotry has a new target (sexual orientation and women rather than race) doesn't make it any better.

That said, the teacher's attempt to stifle free speech had no place in a classroom, and the teacher's pathetic excuse was exactly that...pathetic.
 
2012-10-07 08:22:29 PM  

DubyaHater: I guarantee if she was wearing an Obama/Biden t-shirt, everyone in this thread would be crying racism.


I guarantee you're wrong.

So there.
 
2012-10-07 08:23:20 PM  

DubyaHater: I guarantee if she was wearing an Obama/Biden t-shirt, everyone in this thread would be crying racism.


See, your little post would be believable/not so much of a troll if you hadn't trotted out the "Racism" line.

People here claim racism when the only other logical alternative is that the subject in question is mind-numbingly stupid, such that Racism itself is the benefit of the doubt.

Or when it really is racism (i.e. Tea Party "Obama is our black plague!" signs and "I can't be racist! I have token black friend!" and so on)

Bugger off with the horseshiat.
 
2012-10-07 08:23:33 PM  
I smell a lawsuit - the KKK aren't going to be happy about this comparison at all.
 
2012-10-07 08:23:54 PM  

darkedgefan: No surprise here. I am sure 90% of college professors vote for Dems... Does anyone dispute that? I wonder how high it is for High School teachers? 75%?? I love those "tolerant" liberals.


You sound oppressed.
 
2012-10-07 08:26:15 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: You sound oppressed.


This is the argument against funding education. It creates educated people, which in turn vote for liebruls.

There's so many things wrong with it that you can't really address any one point alone.
 
2012-10-07 08:26:38 PM  
Sure you can throw the kid out, but did you have to carve the "B" into her cheek with a sharp object? Or maybe I'm thinking of a different faux-outrage moment from the GOP? It's hard to keep track of all of them.
 
2012-10-07 08:26:47 PM  
IF THIS REALLY HAPPENED and isn't a made-up vignette, then as a Democrat I am bothered by the teacher's remark/reaction, even in jest. The student was inoffensively expressing a political opinion. She wasn't Drowning Puppies for Romney.

Heck, if she's not embarrassed to be wearing the shirt, I say let her wear it.
 
2012-10-07 08:27:19 PM  

Bio-nic: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dress codes. How wurk?

Dress down Fridays, how work?

Reading comprehension, how work?

Idiocy, you work gud!


Well, YOU obviously have some reading comprehension issues. Or maybe you just didn't read all the comments cause you were just too close to having a posting orgasm?

Posting waaaaaay back in the thread, 2 1/4 hours ago:


"Just Another OC Homeless Guy [TotalFark] 2012-10-07 05:46:22 PM
tenpoundsofcheese: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dress codes. How wurk?

This was on a school dress down day when students could wear what they want.
/reading comprehension. How does that work for you? (apparently not very good)

DRTFA"

Dumbass: YOU
 
2012-10-07 08:27:55 PM  
Despite how much I detest the Romney/Ryan ticket... this story really bothers me.

CSB time: spent three years with a girl whose family was ultra-ultra-partisan Democrat. Like to the point that her sister called me a "baby killer" when I came home in uniform. It took an extreme turn at the '04 election, when even her 8 year old brother couldn't get through a dinner without parroting "Bush is such an idiot."

At that moment, I swore my own children would never be indoctrinated like that. Now, when my 5 year old comes out and sees us laughing at Jon Stewart, we explain to her that everyone in this country gets to vote. And we personally think the president we have now is much better than Romney, but it's okay when other people disagree with us.

Obviously she'll pick up (or specifically rebel against) many of our biases just by being around us. But I'll be damned if my child will become a blind cult follower - even if it's my cult.

Back to the story - the student may just be AWing (both by wearing the shirt and by making a big deal out of this), but the teacher handled it really poorly. If a teacher wants to meddle politically, take 15 minutes out of your curriculum and encourage your students to have a structured debate. Especially on the topic of support for public education.
 
2012-10-07 08:28:01 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: DubyaHater: I guarantee if she was wearing an Obama/Biden t-shirt, everyone in this thread would be crying racism.

I guarantee you're wrong.

So there.


I would actually be sobbing racism, not really crying it.
 
2012-10-07 08:28:30 PM  
 
2012-10-07 08:30:22 PM  
This story smells like horse shiat. I'm betting we aren't hearing the whole story at all.
 
2012-10-07 08:32:15 PM  
they could wear what they want

There's still limits. Obviously they'll still be kicked out for going in a one-piece or wearing a pot leaf or clothes made of cut-up American flags.

Whether the rules for dress-down day cover politics or not is unknown.

All we do know is that it's serious farking business.
 
2012-10-07 08:32:45 PM  
Ahem. Here's how this works.
What the teacher did was wrong. [stop]

\[stop] Stop means stop, like no means no and wrong means wrong.
\\ keep score later. you'll get your chance
 
2012-10-07 08:34:09 PM  
Ummm the teacher admitted to doing it and "apologized".

No fakery this time. Sorry.
 
2012-10-07 08:35:30 PM  
Everyone knows that when the Klan was politically important, they were all Democrats.
 
2012-10-07 08:36:38 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: AirForceVet: Here's some local news that didn't get up to the MSM. Guess it depends which news outline picks up the story, huh?

High school girl who supports GLBT equality gets lectured in class by ROTC instructor about sins of homosexuality.

are you saying ABC news is not part of the MSM?
I didn't know that.

Apparently you don't know the difference between a multi-national news corporation and a local affiliate, either

ABC news covered it.
They are main stream
They are media

get over it.
stop being so persecuted.

If you have an actual link to the article, on abc.com, I'd love to see it, but you were referring to the linked article from a local affiliate, so, yeah...

It's OK to admit you're wrong, sweetheart.


Yes, "multi-national" news organizations typically cover dress choose issues on a cade by case basis.

I agree, quit pretending you're getting persecuted
 
2012-10-07 08:38:10 PM  

ruinevil: Everyone knows that when the Klan was politically important, they were all Democrats.


Then they found a party that would cater to them.
 
2012-10-07 08:38:19 PM  
DubyaHater
I guarantee if she was wearing an Obama/Biden t-shirt, everyone in this thread would be crying racism.
/Obama voter
//the bias on this website is quite obvious

It follows momentum. From the time Bush Jr. won reelection until his ratings hit the 20s, liberal voices were pretty quiet on Fark.
 
2012-10-07 08:38:59 PM  

DubyaHater: I guarantee if she was wearing an Obama/Biden t-shirt, everyone in this thread would be crying racism.
/Obama voter
//the bias on this website is quite obvious



Only if the teacher also said something about Black Panthers or some other blah-related phrase.
/No
//Yes
 
2012-10-07 08:43:01 PM  

Rich Cream: Bob Hope: Democrats=Zombies


Now I know why I see redneck assholes with Zombie killer stickers. I love the gun culture in his country. I hope they come after me someday. They'll have quite the surprise when I shoot back.
 
2012-10-07 08:43:59 PM  
Did the teacher carve a "B" on her face?
 
2012-10-07 08:45:06 PM  
The biggest concern should be from the Romney camp for wearing an obvious counterfeit.

I AM curious about what has led a 16 year old to decide on a Presidential candidate, though. Quick show of hands: How many here think she made this decision independently, and how many think she "supports" Romney/Ryan because her parents told her to?

The story itself is kind of light on details. Is this a district or school dress code thing? Also, are there any other kids in political shirts? The Read the original report link takes you to the same story, word for word, which is no help at all.

No, the teacher shouldn't have said this, but for the girl to be "so embarrassed by the public criticism in front of her classmates that she told her parents she didn't want to return to school.", I smell an excuse to stay home.
 
2012-10-07 08:46:20 PM  

Weaver95: so basically it's ok to wear pro-conservative tee shirts to class, but 'bong hits for jesus' ain't gonna happen...?


Double standards are such fun...

bugontherug: You've no evidence for the proposition that the principal made the teacher apologize. At least not from this article.


The principal was at the meeting where the teacher apologized; this would at least be evidence, though not particularly compelling. However, there's other articles (EG) indicating the meeting was after the parents called and complained to the principal.

Whether the apology was sincere or was solely from coercion is a separate question; I agree, there's no data.
 
2012-10-07 08:48:48 PM  

Mikey1969: I AM curious about what has led a 16 year old to decide on a Presidential candidate, though.


From another article, Romney's stance on late term abortions, apparently.
 
2012-10-07 08:49:11 PM  

Mikey1969: The biggest concern should be from the Romney camp for wearing an obvious counterfeit.

I AM curious about what has led a 16 year old to decide on a Presidential candidate, though. Quick show of hands: How many here think she made this decision independently, and how many think she "supports" Romney/Ryan because her parents told her to?

The story itself is kind of light on details. Is this a district or school dress code thing? Also, are there any other kids in political shirts? The Read the original report link takes you to the same story, word for word, which is no help at all.

No, the teacher shouldn't have said this, but for the girl to be "so embarrassed by the public criticism in front of her classmates that she told her parents she didn't want to return to school.", I smell an excuse to stay home.


But she doesn'teven know if her parents are Republicans according to the article.
 
2012-10-07 08:49:13 PM  

cman: loveblondieo: Here's another article naming the teacher and reporting on some of the backlash she's gotten.

FTA: Sophomore Samantha Pawlucy said Gaymon called her out for wearing the shirt and told her it was analogous to the teacher, who is black, wearing a KKK shirt.

Jesus, a teacher said this?


We all know that we can always take the uncorroborated word of a partisan child hack as gospel.

i278.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-07 08:52:43 PM  
I heard that she actually is in the KKK. And that she's easy.
 
2012-10-07 08:53:11 PM  

abb3w: Mikey1969: I AM curious about what has led a 16 year old to decide on a Presidential candidate, though.

From another article, Romney's stance on late term abortions, apparently.


From your link
He said he recently registered to vote as an independent but was not involved in the Romney campaign. What the hell why would he volunteer that wasn't involved in the Romney campaign?
 
2012-10-07 08:55:03 PM  
Came for backwards B moron, leaving satisfied.

I will await direct corroboration before I exert any energy on outrage. The word of a republican, by itself, is worth nothing.
 
2012-10-07 08:55:11 PM  
Any Philadelphia Farkers, isn't Port Richmond a black neighborhood, I thought Fishtown was where the white people lived in North East Philly?
 
2012-10-07 08:55:25 PM  
Sounds like a pretty typical American school in Obama's America.
 
2012-10-07 08:55:32 PM  
Read this a few days ago.

Speaking as someone who thinks Mitt Romney will bring America into a thousand years of darkness, and with it the world -

This teacher was way out of line.
 
2012-10-07 08:56:31 PM  
it must suck to grow up in such an area, with such teachers... the only ones losing out here are the kids... because regardless of whether or not the students have the freedom to "wear xy or z shirt" (totally irrelevant), this nincompoop is their teacher. let that sink in... this person, who is likely unable to read, is "teaching" the children of tomorrow. is they finna be learnin'?
 
2012-10-07 08:59:32 PM  
You know how I know this is fake? Any kid who would wear a Romney t-shirt is clearly homeschooled.
 
2012-10-07 09:01:27 PM  

proteus_b: it must suck to grow up in such an area, with such teachers... the only ones losing out here are the kids... because regardless of whether or not the students have the freedom to "wear xy or z shirt" (totally irrelevant), this nincompoop is their teacher. let that sink in... this person, who is likely unable to read, is "teaching" the children of tomorrow. is they finna be learnin'?


Why would you think this teacher is unable to read?
I can see outrage for this but where are you pulling this crap from, your ass?

By the way how could a person who doesn't read know it was a Romney/Ryan shirt.
 
2012-10-07 09:05:13 PM  

Girl From The North Country: You know how I know this is fake? Any kid who would wear a Romney t-shirt is clearly homeschooled.



What about kids in Utah, bet there are only 70 kids in Utah who would wear an Obama shirt and they all live in Salt Lake City.
 
2012-10-07 09:05:26 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: AirForceVet: Here's some local news that didn't get up to the MSM. Guess it depends which news outline picks up the story, huh?

High school girl who supports GLBT equality gets lectured in class by ROTC instructor about sins of homosexuality.

are you saying ABC news is not part of the MSM?
I didn't know that.

Apparently you don't know the difference between a multi-national news corporation and a local affiliate, either

ABC news covered it.
They are main stream
They are media

get over it.
stop being so persecuted.

If you have an actual link to the article, on abc.com, I'd love to see it, but you were referring to the linked article from a local affiliate, so, yeah...

It's OK to admit you're wrong, sweetheart.

You are lying again.
I never said abc.com


Spin it harder Self Admitted Paid Troll and you might have Whirlpool nocking at your door.
 
2012-10-07 09:06:09 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: In other news, kids apparently still have 1st Amendment Privleges in school.


I should hope so, It's at least as important as her right to get birth control without their parents knowledge which I'm 99 and 99/100ths percent positive you'd support.
 
2012-10-07 09:09:21 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Bio-nic: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dress codes. How wurk?

Dress down Fridays, how work?

Reading comprehension, how work?

Idiocy, you work gud!

Well, YOU obviously have some reading comprehension issues. Or maybe you just didn't read all the comments cause you were just too close to having a posting orgasm?

Posting waaaaaay back in the thread, 2 1/4 hours ago:


"Just Another OC Homeless Guy [TotalFark] 2012-10-07 05:46:22 PM
tenpoundsofcheese: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dress codes. How wurk?

This was on a school dress down day when students could wear what they want.
/reading comprehension. How does that work for you? (apparently not very good)

DRTFA"

Dumbass: YOU


I don't think you really have the credibility to call other people names after you were called out for a stupid comment and admit you never read the article. Just take it and shut up, as to not dig yourself an even deeper hole.
 
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