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2012-10-07 04:49:47 PM  
4 votes:
I like how Fark liberals are more upset about some racist comments at the end of the article than the reality that black Detroit has indeed become an utter shiathole. Keep on keeping on though. You can only ignore reality for so long.
2012-10-07 08:31:02 PM  
3 votes:

simplicimus: Amos Quito: simplicimus: atomicmask: simplicimus: atomicmask: So lets take inventory of detroit...

Black mayor
Black city council
Black police chief
Black community

City a shiat hole and in ruins, you may be murdered for living in detroit, and the police just do not give a damn...

I can't for the life of me see the connecting factor.

Lack of job opportunities and poor choice in elected officials?

Yeap, that is exactly it...but you are again blaming symptoms of the disease on the overall sickness, and not the disease. It is not even really a "black" thing, other then a black cultural thing. The celebration of ignorance, the constant victim mentality, and the overall desire to destroy rather then create. It is not limited to black communities, but it does wear the crown in them. There are plenty of black individuals who escape this mentality and culture and do quite well, are excellent members of communities...they are often brought up in white majority areas though.

I have an ample amount of white trash in my extended family. Most have done jail time, most are on drugs or alcoholics, most have sporadic employment, most have little respect for education. It's a class thing, not a racial thing.


You might have a point had he not said it first. 

Note the bolded - especially the underlined.

So you missed my point completely. It's not a "Black thing", it's a class thing.



More of a "cultural thing", actually.

Blacks make up 13% of the US population, yet account for circa 50% of all murders (both as perps and as victims).

Poor "whites" (including Latinos") outnumber poor blacks by far. If it were simply a "class thing" as you suggest, we should see murder and other crime rates among "whites" far outpacing those committed by blacks - but we don't.

Unless your definition of "class" is different than mine, it is the culture that must be addressed.
2012-10-07 04:37:01 PM  
3 votes:

PallMall: Vectron: It good those evil days are gone. Now we live in a diversity paradise, comrade.

So you're a racist?


No. I'm on board. We're on a shining path to the future. Looking at the utter whiteness of past Detroit sickens me.
2012-10-07 04:32:06 PM  
3 votes:
Detroit in the dark days past

mw2.google.com

www.sirensofchrome.com

and then 

25.media.tumblr.com

bentley.umich.edu


It good those evil days are gone. Now we live in a diversity paradise, comrade.
2012-10-07 04:31:50 PM  
3 votes:

douchebag/hater: I met someone from Detroit a few weeks ago and I expressed my desire to visit the Motown site.

He said that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES, NONE! that I should go there even on a sunny Wednesday at noon.

He said the city is collapsing and only relatively safe place was the Renaissance Center and that's heavily guarded/patrolled.


I live just North of Detroit in Ferndale. I honestly don't think there is much danger if you are not involved in a gang or there to buy drugs.

So many hipster friends have moved to Greektown, the Eastside, and near Wayne State, I can't see how it could be that bad. I've even started regular bike rides up and down Woodward. It just seems like if it was really that dangerous, myself or people I know would have had something happen to us by now.

// my two cents
2012-10-07 03:28:27 PM  
3 votes:
Generally, large police forces have one officer per 500 people. So, Detroit (~717,000 people) should ideally have around 1,434 police officers. Sounds like the police chief thought that police staffing should remain constant, despite Detroit's population dropping by 25%. While he or she may be right in light of Detroit's demographic and economic challenges, it's hard to justify extra police officers when your government's broke.
2012-10-07 03:19:06 PM  
3 votes:

logistic: Also, check out the comments to the article. Damn.


Love the "send the N***rs back to africa" comment posted by someone with a picture of them hugging a black dude. WTF?
2012-10-07 03:17:35 PM  
3 votes:

logistic: Also, check out the comments to the article. Damn.


Yikes. And that cole dude appears to be black. When even your own start calling for your ass to be shipped out, you really went wrong somewhere.
2012-10-07 02:49:23 PM  
3 votes:
Also, check out the comments to the article. Damn.
2012-10-07 06:22:29 PM  
2 votes:

simplicimus: atomicmask: So lets take inventory of detroit...

Black mayor
Black city council
Black police chief
Black community

City a shiat hole and in ruins, you may be murdered for living in detroit, and the police just do not give a damn...

I can't for the life of me see the connecting factor.

Lack of job opportunities and poor choice in elected officials?


Yeap, that is exactly it...but you are again blaming symptoms of the disease on the overall sickness, and not the disease. It is not even really a "black" thing, other then a black cultural thing. The celebration of ignorance, the constant victim mentality, and the overall desire to destroy rather then create. It is not limited to black communities, but it does wear the crown in them. There are plenty of black individuals who escape this mentality and culture and do quite well, are excellent members of communities...they are often brought up in white majority areas though.
2012-10-07 05:51:16 PM  
2 votes:
Detroit is a shining example of decades-long liberal democrat control. That city and its conditions are exactly what happen when you take liberal policies to their logical conclusion. You simply cannot drive out business, increase government corruption and control, pay off the unions, and stir up the racial anger pot for so long without something like Detroit being the result. Detroit is the one of the first of many children of liberalism. There will be many many more in the coming days. I hope you're ready. Things are not going to get better, and we will see this on a national scale soon enough.
2012-10-07 05:15:41 PM  
2 votes:
media.mlive.com 

City council meets its diversity goal.
2012-10-07 04:53:12 PM  
2 votes:

Kaiku: I like how Fark liberals are more upset about some racist comments at the end of the article than the reality that black Detroit has indeed become an utter shiathole. Keep on keeping on though. You can only ignore reality for so long.


And your solution is?
2012-10-07 04:46:11 PM  
2 votes:
From another recent article on Detroit:

"This is not just a law enforcement issue," Godbee said in Sunday's statement. "The increased prevalence of individuals choosing to use acts of violence to settle disputes between friends, acquaintances and more disturbingly family members must be addressed, if we are to stop the violence in our communities."

Godbee is the Dertoit police chief.

It's a cultural leper colony.

Wall it off and seal it up before it spreads.
2012-10-07 04:02:45 PM  
2 votes:

Kit Fister: logistic: Also, check out the comments to the article. Damn.

Yikes. And that cole dude appears to be black. When even your own start calling for your ass to be shipped out, you really went wrong somewhere.


Maybe he sees a difference between black people a n*****rs?

I feel bad for Detroit. I'm sure it used to be a great place to live.
2012-10-07 03:58:24 PM  
2 votes:
Ok, a "coal burner" is a white woman who sleeps with black dudes, hence Cole Burns. Get it? Ha ha ha.
2012-10-07 03:40:51 PM  
2 votes:

FLMountainMan: Generally, large police forces have one officer per 500 people. So, Detroit (~717,000 people) should ideally have around 1,434 police officers. Sounds like the police chief thought that police staffing should remain constant, despite Detroit's population dropping by 25%. While he or she may be right in light of Detroit's demographic and economic challenges, it's hard to justify extra police officers when your government's broke.


NYC has about one officer for 230 people. that doesn't include school safety cops, traffic enforcement, or auxiliary. Detroit has a comparable ratio.

starting salary of an officer in the Detroit PD is near that of NYC. "can't afford to work in Detroit" = complete nonsense.

and no, you don't deserve a raise when 70% of murders go unsolved and the average response time is over a half hour.
2012-10-07 03:27:46 PM  
2 votes:
Found this list of the 50 most dangerous cities in the world and New Orleans is higher up the list than Detroit - what is the opinion of you farkers? Is the big easy more dangerous?
2012-10-07 03:27:00 PM  
2 votes:

simplicimus: Shang-High: In case they get deleted, here are the wonderful comments showing right now: [i.imgur.com image 618x322]

Well, that's some interesting commentary, but what the heck is a "nog"?


Nog was a Ferengi character on DS9 who later joined Starfleet.
2012-10-07 03:23:44 PM  
2 votes:

The_Homeless_Guy: logistic: Also, check out the comments to the article. Damn.

Love the "send the N***rs back to africa" comment posted by someone with a picture of them hugging a black dude. WTF?


WTF indeed.
2012-10-07 03:18:39 PM  
2 votes:
In case they get deleted, here are the wonderful comments showing right now: i.imgur.com
2012-10-07 11:27:16 PM  
1 votes:

Vectron: Eventually the Feds will put have to put a damper on free speech. These "facts" don't fit the narrative and make our elites uncomfortable and endanger the state. Are these racial crime statistics ever mentioned ANYWHERE?


I agree with this.

If you go to the FBI website where I got the Uniform Crime Report, you'll also find a link that is a "Caution Against Ranking" which basically says not to use the information to rank crime, because there are so many variables that go in to it, it's unreliable.

Unfortunately for them, I own a website which does nothing but handle crime stats (which is why it took me all of 10 minutes to create a report from the FBI Report - including uploading it to another URL, creating a database, and writing scripts to publish the information). I won't share the URL here because it's Fark, but it goes beyond your "normal" crime site in that it includes offender race (except a lot of jurisdictions report Hispanics as White in some initial records) as one of the components. It also tells you were the criminals live vs where the crimes take place. This isn't the norm, as the information isn't as readily available.

There will always be anomalies and reporting errors, but some facts cannot be changed. The FBI quotes "variables" such as population density in those areas, but that information is also available and can be tied in to the stats to make a more accurate overview of crime mapping and "odds" of criminal behavior.

While I'm not trying to make this a racial issue at all, but rather be completely impartial - letting the data speak for itself... it's common knowledge that certain areas contain a higher criminal element. Eventually (once I've gathered a few years of data) I should be able to predict both the likelihood of crime in a given area and the general location of the offender - all through statistical analysis and trend monitoring.

Haters gonna hate!
2012-10-07 10:41:16 PM  
1 votes:
"Detroit is America's most violent city, its homicide rate is the highest in the country and yet the Detroit Police Department is grossly understaffed," Iorio told WWJ's Kathryn Larson



Meanwhile, back on Earth... According to the FBI themselves, circa 2008, Detroit actually came in at fourth place on the Top Ten Murder Capitols:

New Orleans, Louisiana
Population: 220,614
Murders: 209
Your odds: 1 in 1055

Gary, Indiana
Population: 97,048
Murders: 71
Your odds: 1 in 1366

Baltimore, Maryland
Population: 624, 237
Murders: 282
Your odds: 1 in 2214

Detroit, Michigan
Population: 860,971
Murders: 383
Your odds: 1 in 2248

Is Detroit dangerous? Yes indeed! Fourth place on that list is nothing to be proud about. But is it #1? No, no it is not, and it hasn't been #1 for a long, long time now. Yet people keep saying that it is. Namely, people with absolutely no clue about what their talking about and just parrot false information off their internet as if it were fact. They seem to be everywhere, especially FARK.

So remember this the next time you frat-heads go to Mardis Gras: You are entering a city that is literally twice as dangerous as Detroit. And getting drunk, high, and acting in a manner that will make the locals want to kill you in a city with lots of alligator filled swamps nearby that are great for getting rid of bodies.

But wait, it gets better! Want to bring your sister, wife or girlfriend along? Because in that same year, in the Top Ten Cities for Rape, Detroit didn't even make the list:

Minneapolis, Minnesota
Population: 371,240
Rapes: 452
Your odds: 1 in 822

Rockford, Illinois
Population: 155,713
Rapes: 107
Your odds: 1 in 915

Birmingham, Alabama
Population: 227, 686
Rapes: 229
Your odds: 1 in 995

Des Moines, Iowa
Population: 192,948
Rapes: 185
Your odds: 1 in 1042

Oakland, California
Population: 396,541
Rapes: 277
Your odds: 1 in 1052

Colorado Springs, Colorado
Population: 374,112
Rapes: 286
Your odds: 1 in 1069

Anchorage, Alaska
Population: 284,142
Rapes: 257
Your odds: 1 in 1106

Indianapolis, Indiana
Population: 797,268
Rapes: 505
Your odds: 1 in 1578

Gary, Indiana
Population: 97,048
Rapes: 57
Your odds: 1 in 1918

So where does Detroit stand on this chart? Well, if you jump off the Top Ten list and run towards the bottom...

St.Petersburg, Florida
Population: 248,069
Rapes: 103
Your odds: 1 in 2409

Detroit, Michigan
Population: 860,971
Rapes: 344
Your odds: 1 in 2502

Think about that for a minute. A vagina is in more danger living in St.Petersburg than in Detroit. It is in twice as much danger living in Colorado Springs. It is in three times as much danger living in Minneapolis. Such nice town, clean, wholesome cities, aren't they?

And the next time your car insurance starts making excuses for their premiums because of Detroit's high car theft rate, show them the Top Ten Car Theft list from 2009:

#1) Modesto, California
#2) Laredo, Texas
#3) Yakima, Washington
#4) San Diego, California
#5) Bakersfield, California
#6) Stockton, California
#7) Las Vegas, Nevada
#8) Alburquerque, New Mexico
#9) San Franscisco, California
#10) Fresno, California

And so on and so forth...

Seriously people, stop rehashing hyperbole and parroting all the other people who've never set foot in the city either. It just makes you look stupid, especially when oh yeah there are actual government website (like the FBI themselves) who can quickly & easily provide you with the actual truth. Now I know the actual truth isn't as fun and doesn't win the approval of all your stormfront buddies, but it does keep the world from thinking that you're a retard who can't even be bothered to click a couple link worth of fact checking effort.
2012-10-07 08:38:49 PM  
1 votes:

taurusowner: Detroit is a shining example of decades-long liberal democrat control. That city and its conditions are exactly what happen when you take liberal policies to their logical conclusion. You simply cannot drive out business, increase government corruption and control, pay off the unions, and stir up the racial anger pot for so long without something like Detroit being the result. Detroit is the one of the first of many children of liberalism. There will be many many more in the coming days. I hope you're ready. Things are not going to get better, and we will see this on a national scale soon enough.


As much as people want to disagree with you, the truth obviously hurts them. You're spot on with that comment. Most naysayers haven't even been to Detroit, so they are clueless when they disagree.

One fact that should frighten people is this: There have been stories written in the past that have shown Detroit to be a model for other big cities throughout history for the rest of the country. Many of the trends that occurred in other big cities socially, economically, structurally, culturally, politically, etc began in Detroit first. Other cities didn't change over night. but they did eventually follow suit. Pray that the current condition doesn't eventually follow that pattern everywhere else.

Go ahead and say it - "People in other cities are too smart to let that happen". That's what they thought in Detroit as well.
2012-10-07 08:30:12 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: Amos Quito: simplicimus: atomicmask: simplicimus: atomicmask: So lets take inventory of detroit...

Black mayor
Black city council
Black police chief
Black community

City a shiat hole and in ruins, you may be murdered for living in detroit, and the police just do not give a damn...

I can't for the life of me see the connecting factor.

Lack of job opportunities and poor choice in elected officials?

Yeap, that is exactly it...but you are again blaming symptoms of the disease on the overall sickness, and not the disease. It is not even really a "black" thing, other then a black cultural thing. The celebration of ignorance, the constant victim mentality, and the overall desire to destroy rather then create. It is not limited to black communities, but it does wear the crown in them. There are plenty of black individuals who escape this mentality and culture and do quite well, are excellent members of communities...they are often brought up in white majority areas though.

I have an ample amount of white trash in my extended family. Most have done jail time, most are on drugs or alcoholics, most have sporadic employment, most have little respect for education. It's a class thing, not a racial thing.


You might have a point had he not said it first. 

Note the bolded - especially the underlined.

So you missed my point completely. It's not a "Black thing", it's a class thing.


It is not a "class" thing...or else we would be issuing travel warnings for part of rural kentucky... Notice that the places that are considered most dangerous are cities containing large portions of minorities who have specific cultures? That culture is ignorance, celebrated in rap, celebrated in the media, celebrated and cherished in black dominated neighborhoods. When said places label black men who want to get an education and make something of themselves "uncle toms" that should speak loads about the mentality of this culture..What in white culture equals that? Larry the cable guy?
2012-10-07 08:23:55 PM  
1 votes:

PallMall: taurusowner: That wasn't meant for you, don't know WTF happened there...

Kit Fister: Or people could, I dunno, choose to stand up to the crap and force it to go somewhere else, rather than moving. But, hey, why stand up for it when you can run from it, amirite?


Since your ideas are fantastical at best, let me give you a little schooling...

In a small town of 100, it takes one.
In a metropolis of millions, it takes military strikes an army.


While I agree with this in theory, it's not fantastical to do what has worked elsewhere: improve the neighborhood, have neighbors willing to watch out for each other, and people in general willing to take responsibility. Even if it's a few blocks.

But, I suppose you're right. Given detroit at this point, i'd say the only way to do it would be to barricade off your area and go totally post-apocolypse survivalist on it, and I doubt the measures needed to stop the flood would be palletable by some.
2012-10-07 08:13:15 PM  
1 votes:

Amos Quito: simplicimus: atomicmask: simplicimus: atomicmask: So lets take inventory of detroit...

Black mayor
Black city council
Black police chief
Black community

City a shiat hole and in ruins, you may be murdered for living in detroit, and the police just do not give a damn...

I can't for the life of me see the connecting factor.

Lack of job opportunities and poor choice in elected officials?

Yeap, that is exactly it...but you are again blaming symptoms of the disease on the overall sickness, and not the disease. It is not even really a "black" thing, other then a black cultural thing. The celebration of ignorance, the constant victim mentality, and the overall desire to destroy rather then create. It is not limited to black communities, but it does wear the crown in them. There are plenty of black individuals who escape this mentality and culture and do quite well, are excellent members of communities...they are often brought up in white majority areas though.

I have an ample amount of white trash in my extended family. Most have done jail time, most are on drugs or alcoholics, most have sporadic employment, most have little respect for education. It's a class thing, not a racial thing.


You might have a point had he not said it first. 

Note the bolded - especially the underlined.


So you missed my point completely. It's not a "Black thing", it's a class thing.
2012-10-07 08:09:53 PM  
1 votes:
I live in a country with a daily death-toll (from violent crime), higher than that of Iraq at the peak of Desert-Storm, or any other resent war in the world for that matter, actually...(casualties on both sides combined). I wish our police would tell us to "enter at own risk", because that would allow me to also "take the LAW into my own hands". They sure as hell have no clue as to what to do with it.
2012-10-07 07:36:10 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: atomicmask: simplicimus: atomicmask: So lets take inventory of detroit...

Black mayor
Black city council
Black police chief
Black community

City a shiat hole and in ruins, you may be murdered for living in detroit, and the police just do not give a damn...

I can't for the life of me see the connecting factor.

Lack of job opportunities and poor choice in elected officials?

Yeap, that is exactly it...but you are again blaming symptoms of the disease on the overall sickness, and not the disease. It is not even really a "black" thing, other then a black cultural thing. The celebration of ignorance, the constant victim mentality, and the overall desire to destroy rather then create. It is not limited to black communities, but it does wear the crown in them. There are plenty of black individuals who escape this mentality and culture and do quite well, are excellent members of communities...they are often brought up in white majority areas though.

I have an ample amount of white trash in my extended family. Most have done jail time, most are on drugs or alcoholics, most have sporadic employment, most have little respect for education. It's a class thing, not a racial thing.



You might have a point had he not said it first. 

Note the bolded - especially the underlined.
2012-10-07 07:11:12 PM  
1 votes:

Shang-High: In case they get deleted, here are the wonderful comments showing right now: [i.imgur.com image 618x322]


These people are putting their real names on these comments.
I'm more astounded by the stupidity than the racism.
2012-10-07 07:00:54 PM  
1 votes:

taurusowner: Thanks for the Meme-ries: taurusowner:

Nice handle for this thread:

[i291.photobucket.com image 640x346]

/can you fly bobby

I should probably change my name since I actually sold the Taurus to a buddy. All I have pistol-wise now is a few Smith and Wesson M&Ps of various models plus my department issue Glock.



"department issue Glock"

uh...just kidding about saving addresses.
2012-10-07 06:55:10 PM  
1 votes:

PallMall: simplicimus: PallMall: simplicimus: I live just outside of Houston, so those stats don't surprise me.

I just moved away from Houston, so I hear ya.

Yeah, wife and I are curled up in Northwest Harris county, so relatively safe. Plus I have 2 loud but harmless dogs.

I fled the County all together. Plus I'm close to the water now. NW Harris County is really expanding right now. You'll probably have to move again in the next couple of years to avoid the crap that invades.


Or people could, I dunno, choose to stand up to the crap and force it to go somewhere else, rather than moving. But, hey, why stand up for it when you can run from it, amirite?
2012-10-07 06:50:02 PM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-10-07 06:46:32 PM  
1 votes:

PallMall: simplicimus: I live just outside of Houston, so those stats don't surprise me.

I just moved away from Houston, so I hear ya.


Yeah, wife and I are curled up in Northwest Harris county, so relatively safe. Plus I have 2 loud but harmless dogs.
2012-10-07 06:32:13 PM  
1 votes:

atomicmask: simplicimus: atomicmask: So lets take inventory of detroit...

Black mayor
Black city council
Black police chief
Black community

City a shiat hole and in ruins, you may be murdered for living in detroit, and the police just do not give a damn...

I can't for the life of me see the connecting factor.

Lack of job opportunities and poor choice in elected officials?

Yeap, that is exactly it...but you are again blaming symptoms of the disease on the overall sickness, and not the disease. It is not even really a "black" thing, other then a black cultural thing. The celebration of ignorance, the constant victim mentality, and the overall desire to destroy rather then create. It is not limited to black communities, but it does wear the crown in them. There are plenty of black individuals who escape this mentality and culture and do quite well, are excellent members of communities...they are often brought up in white majority areas though.


I have an ample amount of white trash in my extended family. Most have done jail time, most are on drugs or alcoholics, most have sporadic employment, most have little respect for education. It's a class thing, not a racial thing.
2012-10-07 06:19:53 PM  
1 votes:

atomicmask: So lets take inventory of detroit...

Black mayor
Black city council
Black police chief
Black community

City a shiat hole and in ruins, you may be murdered for living in detroit, and the police just do not give a damn...

I can't for the life of me see the connecting factor.


Lack of job opportunities and poor choice in elected officials?
2012-10-07 06:19:35 PM  
1 votes:

taurusowner: atomicmask: So lets take inventory of detroit...

Black mayor
Black city council
Black police chief
Black community

City a shiat hole and in ruins, you may be murdered for living in detroit, and the police just do not give a damn...

I can't for the life of me see the connecting factor.

It's not their race that's important. It's their political leanings. Detroit has been under a pure Democrat government for decades and decades. And the resulting condition of Democrat control is plain to see.


As Vectron has pointed out, quite a few white liberal/democratic societies flourish and do quite well, I would venture to suggest that many rural areas have quite prosperous hippie communities (I know of one) that have not at all fallen apart but seem to live well with the most liberal ideals. The deciding factor is hitting you in the face, mugging you, and blaming it on the man...it is not the political affiliation.
2012-10-07 06:14:12 PM  
1 votes:
So lets take inventory of detroit...

Black mayor
Black city council
Black police chief
Black community

City a shiat hole and in ruins, you may be murdered for living in detroit, and the police just do not give a damn...

I can't for the life of me see the connecting factor.
2012-10-07 06:02:30 PM  
1 votes:
I just posted Crime Stats for the top 25 most populous cities.

See them here.

I downloaded the FBI Uniform Crime Report for 2011 (latest available, still preliminary, so some data is missing).

You can quickly see that Detroit has a violent crime rate out of this world. As does DC, Baltimore and Memphis (per 1000 citizens).
2012-10-07 05:57:46 PM  
1 votes:

Shang-High: In case they get deleted, here are the wonderful comments showing right now: [i.imgur.com image 618x322]


Yeah I saw those when this first hit Fark. Amazing how stupid some people are these days.
2012-10-07 05:57:43 PM  
1 votes:
Pay us more, or the criminals will get you.
2012-10-07 05:54:23 PM  
1 votes:

taurusowner: Detroit is a shining example of decades-long liberal democrat control. That city and its conditions are exactly what happen when you take liberal policies to their logical conclusion. You simply cannot drive out business, increase government corruption and control, pay off the unions, and stir up the racial anger pot for so long without something like Detroit being the result. Detroit is the one of the first of many children of liberalism. There will be many many more in the coming days. I hope you're ready. Things are not going to get better, and we will see this on a national scale soon enough.


t2.gstatic.com
2012-10-07 05:23:20 PM  
1 votes:
At least one gang in Detroit is dwindling/leaving soon it seems.
2012-10-07 05:14:59 PM  
1 votes:
Great, the first U.S. government travel advisory for someplace inside the U.S. Something tells me this won't be the last one.
2012-10-07 05:04:42 PM  
1 votes:
As a New Orleanian, I know what it feels like to constantly have your city dumped on by people who don't know anything about it. But here's the thing: In 2006, as fallout from Katrina continued to grip the city and murders skyrocketed due to returning dopers fighting to re-establish turf, we used to joke, "At least we're not Detroit."

Now that's just sad when residents of what outwardly appeared to be a police state with heavily armed men in Humvees on patrol every night are making fun of you.

/Hey Detroit Farkers, I feel for you.
//I think I looove you
///seriously though, keep your chin up
2012-10-07 04:55:49 PM  
1 votes:

dumbobruni: NYC has about one officer for 230 people. that doesn't include school safety cops, traffic enforcement, or auxiliary. Detroit has a comparable ratio.


Yeah, that ratio doesn't really explain anything here. There might be a matter of expectation and a malaise.
2012-10-07 04:55:48 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: notatrollorami: Did anyone read the comments? Is "nog" a thing now?

From what I learned upthread, it seems to be a fixation on a DS9 character.


Yeah, when I started reading the thread I realized I was the twentieth person to bring that up. C'est la vie.
2012-10-07 04:52:09 PM  
1 votes:

Kaiku: the reality that black Detroit has indeed become an utter shiathole.


That has been occurring for decades. Is your name Johnny Wishbone?
2012-10-07 04:51:23 PM  
1 votes:

douchebag/hater: Kit Fister: logistic: Also, check out the comments to the article. Damn.

Yikes. And that cole dude appears to be black. When even your own start calling for your ass to be shipped out, you really went wrong somewhere.

One of the comments talk about sending the blacks back to Africa; why is what he said harsh but Snoop Lion calling Romney a 'white nubian' getting a pass?

This is not a political question and I don't really expect an intelligent answer - this being FARK and all - but still, racism is racism a Snoop Lion is a racist for saying it.


I don't disagree with the sentiment that people call out whites for racism much more readily, but the idea that a presidential candidate and a pothead rapper would be held to the same or even remotely similar standards of behavior is laughably farcical.
2012-10-07 04:51:13 PM  
1 votes:
I have to say I had a really good impression of most of the black people I met in Detroit. I guess it is certain neighborhoods you have to watch out for.
2012-10-07 04:46:23 PM  
1 votes:
THE DETROIT SOLUTION

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Ripley: I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Hudson: farkin' A!
Burke: Hold on a second. This installation Detroit has a substantial dollar value attached to it.
Ripley: They can *bill* me.
2012-10-07 04:42:32 PM  
1 votes:
Nice third world country you got there, America. I'm proud of ya, son.

Good to see your guns are keeping you safe.
2012-10-07 04:42:04 PM  
1 votes:
Did anyone read the comments? Is "nog" a thing now?
2012-10-07 04:41:11 PM  
1 votes:
From the comments:
solution? call in the National guard, start shooting everyone that shoots at you and clean the house up, Get out the bulldozers and fill up the holes in the city with dead nogs and build over the dead and now useful nogs

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2012-10-07 04:40:30 PM  
1 votes:

Lekneh: I honestly don't think there is much danger if you are not involved in a gang or there to buy drugs.


An outsider in Detroit is either in a gang, there to buy drugs, or will be assumed to be there as part of a gang or to buy drugs by the gangs and drug dealers, and dealt with accordingly.

/if you ain't from there, don't go there
//except to join a gang or buy drugs, of course
2012-10-07 04:39:22 PM  
1 votes:

Vectron: No. I'm on board. We're on a shining path to the future. Looking at the utter whiteness of past Detroit sickens me.


8/10 - Good Jorb
2012-10-07 04:33:58 PM  
1 votes:

Vectron: It good those evil days are gone. Now we live in a diversity paradise, comrade.


So you're a racist?
2012-10-07 04:29:45 PM  
1 votes:

StickyBunBandit: legion_of_doo: Clearly, it's the fault of the white northern suburbs stealing from the people of Detroit.

/can I be mayor or sit on the city council now?

Hey Mayor Colman Young,I thought you were dead.


A little toasty over here, but I still don't know nothin bout no goddam krugerrands!
2012-10-07 04:28:30 PM  
1 votes:
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There is a cancer in old Detroit. That cancer is crime.
2012-10-07 04:24:20 PM  
1 votes:

rocketpants: I bet you give amazing lobe.


Just for myself.
2012-10-07 04:16:18 PM  
1 votes:
Anyone else notice all the articles on the right side that pretty much out the source as a right-wing Freeper clone?
2012-10-07 04:05:05 PM  
1 votes:
Wow at those comments. That said even i won't go there and I'm black and from Chicago.
2012-10-07 03:58:18 PM  
1 votes:

FLMountainMan: In other news, the union contract for the police is up for renegotiation soon. I'm sure these two events are entirely unrelated.


Consider the source: FTA: Detroit Police Officer Association (DPOA) Attorney Donato Iorio said ...

First, he's an attorney, so he's going for the hyperbole, and he represents the Police Officer's Union. There's just a lot of (understandable) butthurt that the cops are doing 12 hour shifts for straight time wages.

It's not likely that cops are going to show up at a crime scene, unless there is a body to be removed. This has been going on for years, and the labor strife is not making any noticable change. Violent crimes, however, have been occuring more frequently. The murder rate in Detroit is definitely higher this year. That being said, the protest is going on Downtown, in front of Comerica Park, which is one of the safest areas in the city. Just gonna scare off the suburban tourists, who are bringing in money for overpriced food, drink, and parking downtown. Way to go, guys!

Notice that the attorney says that the cops can't live on their wages, but doesn't state how large those wages are currently.  The cops with about 5 years on the job are making about 50k per year IIRC.
2012-10-07 03:54:06 PM  
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dumbobruni: FLMountainMan: Generally, large police forces have one officer per 500 people. So, Detroit (~717,000 people) should ideally have around 1,434 police officers. Sounds like the police chief thought that police staffing should remain constant, despite Detroit's population dropping by 25%. While he or she may be right in light of Detroit's demographic and economic challenges, it's hard to justify extra police officers when your government's broke.

NYC has about one officer for 230 people. that doesn't include school safety cops, traffic enforcement, or auxiliary. Detroit has a comparable ratio.

starting salary of an officer in the Detroit PD is near that of NYC. "can't afford to work in Detroit" = complete nonsense.

and no, you don't deserve a raise when 70% of murders go unsolved and the average response time is over a half hour.


As someone who has ventured into the wrong sections of Baltimore more than a few times, I have to say that it doesn't matter how many cops you flood into the area. If the cops are inadequate or don't give a shiat, all they do is provide the illusion of safety.

/saw a bank robbery in northern Baltimore
//cops politely waited for the guy to run away before entering the bank
2012-10-07 03:50:22 PM  
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kendelrio: FTFA: "These are the men and women who we look to protect us... and police officers can't protect you if they're not there. "

Waitaminnit.... Didn't the Supreme Court determine the job of the police wasn't to protect you, but to investigate and prosecute crimes?

Oh yeah, they did.


Ah, c'mon. It's a fairly common logo on a police car, "To serve and Protect". Serve who and protect who is not specified.
2012-10-07 03:49:58 PM  
1 votes:
Clearly, it's the fault of the white northern suburbs stealing from the people of Detroit.

/can I be mayor or sit on the city council now?
2012-10-07 03:43:15 PM  
1 votes:
FTFA: "These are the men and women who we look to protect us... and police officers can't protect you if they're not there. "

Waitaminnit.... Didn't the Supreme Court determine the job of the police wasn't to protect you, but to investigate and prosecute crimes?

Oh yeah, they did.
2012-10-07 03:40:58 PM  
1 votes:
Looks to me like the real news here is the related article on the lower left about a cop actually being convicted of a crime and incarcerated for his actions in the course of duty. I think I could count the number of times I've seen that in the news on one hand.
2012-10-07 03:38:44 PM  
1 votes:
Crime goes up.
Property values go down.
Fatcats buy it up supercheap.


Follow the money.
2012-10-07 03:38:31 PM  
1 votes:

Spiralmonkey: Found this list of the 50 most dangerous cities in the world and New Orleans is higher up the list than Detroit - what is the opinion of you farkers? Is the big easy more dangerous?


When I lived there, 15 or so years ago, it was common knowledge that the police would not go into the projects. So it was closer to "Bring out your dead" than policing. But this was the same police force that had a policewoman put out a hit on her partner for not splitting the drug profits equally.
2012-10-07 03:36:49 PM  
1 votes:

Spiralmonkey: Found this list of the 50 most dangerous cities in the world and New Orleans is higher up the list than Detroit - what is the opinion of you farkers? Is the big easy more dangerous?


Haven't been to New Orleans, but every time i drive an hour north to a concert in Detroit, us white dudes never get messed with. Lots of homeless asking for money, but we just give them booze, and they're happy. /wouldn't want to wander on foot too long there/
2012-10-07 03:35:15 PM  
1 votes:

danielscissorhands: Kit Fister: logistic: Also, check out the comments to the article. Damn.

Yikes. And that cole dude appears to be black. When even your own start calling for your ass to be shipped out, you really went wrong somewhere.

Yeah, i noticed that too. Strange. Maybe he just has that picture so that he can get away with making racist comments. Or maybe he hates himself so much that that's why he's with a white woman in the picture.


I knew a black guy that was like that, but he only hated on the 'thug' like black guys that use broken English or weird slang that all the rappers are using today, yeah, he would use the 'n' word about them in disgust. I wouldn't say he hates himself or his race, just dumb-asses that look and sound ridiculous to him.
2012-10-07 03:34:09 PM  
1 votes:

Jon iz teh kewl: why not just put LSD in the drinking water??


that would certainly be interesting to watch...on tv.....wouldn't want to be anywhere near a bunch of people with guns running around tripping balls
2012-10-07 03:28:02 PM  
1 votes:

APE992: simplicimus: Shang-High: In case they get deleted, here are the wonderful comments showing right now: [i.imgur.com image 618x322]

Well, that's some interesting commentary, but what the heck is a "nog"?

"Nig-nog" is a racial slur for "African-Americans". Laziness?


Well, I am lazy, yes. But the concept of building over a foundation of decomposing bodies makes no sense.
2012-10-07 03:26:17 PM  
1 votes:
Once again unions proving they would rather cut off their nose to spite their face.

/no sympathy for DPOA, other government workers have been getting pay slashed for years.
2012-10-07 03:25:13 PM  
1 votes:

simplicimus: Shang-High: In case they get deleted, here are the wonderful comments showing right now: [i.imgur.com image 618x322]

Well, that's some interesting commentary, but what the heck is a "nog"?


"Nig-nog" is a racial slur for "African-Americans". Laziness?
2012-10-07 03:24:31 PM  
1 votes:
They already tried nuke guys. It was the sequel and it wasn't terrible, it just wasn't that good.
2012-10-07 03:23:30 PM  
1 votes:
In other news, the union contract for the police is up for renegotiation soon. I'm sure these two events are entirely unrelated.
2012-10-07 03:23:19 PM  
1 votes:

Kit Fister: logistic: Also, check out the comments to the article. Damn.

Yikes. And that cole dude appears to be black. When even your own start calling for your ass to be shipped out, you really went wrong somewhere.


Yeah, i noticed that too. Strange. Maybe he just has that picture so that he can get away with making racist comments. Or maybe he hates himself so much that that's why he's with a white woman in the picture.
2012-10-07 03:22:34 PM  
1 votes:

Shang-High: In case they get deleted, here are the wonderful comments showing right now: [i.imgur.com image 618x322]


Well, that's some interesting commentary, but what the heck is a "nog"?
2012-10-07 02:47:22 PM  
1 votes:
How to fix Detroit:
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2012-10-07 02:26:31 PM  
1 votes:
At this point the government should just build a giant wall around Detroit and make it a No Man's Land.
 
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