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2012-10-07 11:54:30 AM
With social media and people posting picture of every mundane and stupid thing they do how anyone will be able to become a teacher and stay a teacher after attending college where pictures of the racy and stupid actions are par for the course. If a kid has access to pictures of a teacher scantily clad from 17 years ago and goatse I can see why the old pictures of the teacher could cause a problem.
 
2012-10-07 11:59:13 AM
"...have...".
 
2012-10-07 01:47:16 PM
TFA: Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.



And there it is.
 
2012-10-07 02:17:34 PM
I would happily let her guide me.
 
2012-10-07 02:17:45 PM

eurotrader: With social media and people posting picture of every mundane and stupid thing they do how anyone will be able to become a teacher and stay a teacher after attending college where pictures of the racy and stupid actions are par for the course. If a kid has access to pictures of a teacher scantily clad from 17 years ago and goatse I can see why the old pictures of the teacher could cause a problem.


Where are we going to get cops from?
 
2012-10-07 02:18:05 PM
If she was fired 17 years ago why are they bringing it up now? Just to rub it in?
 
2012-10-07 02:20:17 PM
Wow. Apparently high school guidance councelers make $85,000 a year. I chose the wrong job.
 
2012-10-07 02:20:31 PM
Is that crime scene tape across the front of the school in the picture?
 
2012-10-07 02:20:47 PM
i235.photobucket.com

GUIDANCE?!?!
 
2012-10-07 02:21:01 PM
Some serious headline fail here.
 
2012-10-07 02:22:39 PM

siyuntz: TFA: Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.

And there it is.



That's the first thing that crossed my mind when I read that part of TFA
 
2012-10-07 02:24:05 PM
A principal at Murry Bergtraum High School for Business Careers in Manhattan recommended she be fired after a student showed her photos of Ms Webb that he had found online.

What a farking coont.
 
2012-10-07 02:24:30 PM
Wait you can get tenure at a high school...?
 
2012-10-07 02:24:54 PM
I hope the judge rips the school board a new one for that case, because they have absolutely nothing to their case. Asshats all the way.
 
2012-10-07 02:26:16 PM
People!

Think of the children!

What will they masturbate to now?
 
2012-10-07 02:27:07 PM

siyuntz: TFA: Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.



And there it is.


looks like it to me.

committee member 1 to committee member 2: "if we don't fire her now she'll have tenure and we'll never be rid of her. keep in mind we've tried twice before to get rid on her, it's now or never."
 
2012-10-07 02:29:03 PM
'Mo Girls Entertainment' and 'Showgirlz Exclusive.'

Why was the kid going to those websites? And if he was why would he show that to the principal. Someone needs to monitor their kids internet usage.
 
2012-10-07 02:29:27 PM
Not that I think it's right for her to be fired for this, but if her litigation is all about this one event, then I can't imagine her sex discrimination and 1st amendment suits are going to have traction. Wrongful termination? Maybe so.
 
2012-10-07 02:30:55 PM

Jacobin: If she was fired 17 years ago why are they bringing it up now? Just to rub it in?


siyuntz: TFA: Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.

And there it is.

 
2012-10-07 02:31:11 PM
lingerie photos? lingerie photos!

She's going to cost them millions over this case of constructive dismissal. She was 20 and near perfect. Do we have any current photos? I personally believe that all hot chicks should do a photoshoot in their prime so the world has a record of that fleeting beauty.
 
2012-10-07 02:32:33 PM

stevarooni: Not that I think it's right for her to be fired for this, but if her litigation is all about this one event, then I can't imagine her sex discrimination and 1st amendment suits are going to have traction. Wrongful termination? Maybe so.


The sex discrimination claim won't be about her being fired over pictures, it'll be that they really fired her to avoid having to give a woman tenure. It'll focus on the gender ratio of tenured teachers compared the ratio of teachers who are employed and/or up for tenure soon. If lots of female teachers keep getting fired shortly before obtaining tenure, that's sex discrimination.
 
2012-10-07 02:32:52 PM

siyuntz: TFA: Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.

And there it is.


That Hypothesis Is Sound
 
2012-10-07 02:33:29 PM
I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.
 
2012-10-07 02:34:10 PM

Soup_Man: Wow. Apparently high school guidance councelers make $85,000 a year. I chose the wrong job.


Well she has a masters and lives in a place where a studio starts at 1,600 and has the highest cost of living in the country. But would you be good at the job? if so yes come join the dark side we have retirement benefits
 
2012-10-07 02:34:34 PM
Both subby and eurotrader in the Boobies seem to have issues using the English language. Is there a fund we can contribute to, for the education of illiterate farkers? It's so sad.
 
2012-10-07 02:35:39 PM

Soup_Man: Wow. Apparently high school guidance councelers make $85,000 a year. I chose the wrong job.


It's Manhattan. Just as one example, I checked a cost of living calculator and it's the equivalent of making about $43,000 in Dallas, TX.
 
2012-10-07 02:37:04 PM

xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.


And if your daughter poses in a bikini at age 19 you would TOTALLY support her wearing the scarlet letter for the rest of her life, right?
 
2012-10-07 02:38:43 PM
Where's the todays pic? Fark, you failed me again.
 
2012-10-07 02:38:55 PM

xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.


Geesh, you must be boring.

When you're young, most of your time is spend making poor decisions.
Eventually, you outgrow that stage.
 
2012-10-07 02:40:15 PM

StoPPeRmobile: eurotrader: With social media and people posting picture of every mundane and stupid thing they do how anyone will be able to become a teacher and stay a teacher after attending college where pictures of the racy and stupid actions are par for the course. If a kid has access to pictures of a teacher scantily clad from 17 years ago and goatse I can see why the old pictures of the teacher could cause a problem.

Where are we going to get cops from?


Uh, I believe you are thinking that that someone who carries a gun would be subject to the same standards as someone who carries pencils.
 
2012-10-07 02:40:54 PM
SecretAgentWoman: And if your daughter poses in a bikini at age 19 you would TOTALLY support her wearing the scarlet letter for the rest of her life, right?

My daughter will be smarter than that.
 
2012-10-07 02:42:00 PM
Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Geesh, you must be boring.

When you're young, most of your time is spend making poor decisions.
Eventually, you outgrow that stage.



Have fun making all the poor decisions you want. Just don't come crying when there are *gasp* consequences for those decisions. This is a prime example.
 
2012-10-07 02:42:39 PM
Live by the dirty pillows, die by the dirty pillows.
 
2012-10-07 02:43:08 PM
$84k a year for a guidance counselor.
Jebus.
 
2012-10-07 02:44:38 PM

xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.


I hope your daughter becomes a stripper, only for like a couple months
 
2012-10-07 02:44:42 PM
Bah I had to click on a Daily Fail link to see what school. You're letting me down, Farkers.

I was going to snark on the Fail for misspelling "Murray" but I guess that's how Mr. Bergtraum spelled his name, so he's the illiterate one. Or I am.

I like that the Fail says "clearly photoshopped." I wonder if they can tell from the pixels.
 
2012-10-07 02:44:57 PM
Pics?
 
2012-10-07 02:46:17 PM
Unlike several others posters on here I doubt this has anything to do with tenure.

Someone's been trying to get rid of her and now they have the votes to do it.
 
2012-10-07 02:47:53 PM
dmars: I hope your daughter becomes a stripper, only for like a couple months

Not gonna happen. I've already got the schools picked out and funded all the way through USC, and I'll be paying for all of it.
 
2012-10-07 02:48:47 PM
xl5150:

Nice jorb trolling today....
 
2012-10-07 02:49:27 PM

xl5150: dmars: I hope your daughter becomes a stripper, only for like a couple months

Not gonna happen. I've already got the schools picked out and funded all the way through USC, and I'll be paying for all of it.


You had me going until USC!
 
2012-10-07 02:49:51 PM

DownDaRiver: StoPPeRmobile: eurotrader: With social media and people posting picture of every mundane and stupid thing they do how anyone will be able to become a teacher and stay a teacher after attending college where pictures of the racy and stupid actions are par for the course. If a kid has access to pictures of a teacher scantily clad from 17 years ago and goatse I can see why the old pictures of the teacher could cause a problem.

Where are we going to get cops from?

Uh, I believe you are thinking that that someone who carries a gun would be subject to the same standards as someone who carries pencils.


Nice rip but I meant more like this.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mom-faces-firing-online-nud e- pix-article-1.1173604
 
2012-10-07 02:50:08 PM

wichitaleaf: $84k a year for a guidance counselor.
Jebus.


In Manhattan. That's the equivalent of ~$40,000 in most other areas of the country.
 
2012-10-07 02:50:57 PM
dumbgai: You had me going until USC!

What's so unbelievable about USC? She'll be third generation.
 
2012-10-07 02:51:00 PM
Hey, if a former alcoholic can become president. Talk about role models.

/land of opportunity my ass
 
2012-10-07 02:52:11 PM
She probably does not resemble her 17 year old photos anymore and deserves to be fired.
 
2012-10-07 02:53:44 PM

OregonVet: xl5150:

Nice jorb trolling today....


His/her skills are really improving. Think they may have had a previous career on the Bass Masters tour.
 
2012-10-07 02:54:03 PM

xl5150: SecretAgentWoman: And if your daughter poses in a bikini at age 19 you would TOTALLY support her wearing the scarlet letter for the rest of her life, right?

My daughter will be smarter than that.


Your daughter will most likely be duller than that.
 
2012-10-07 02:54:05 PM

xl5150: SecretAgentWoman: And if your daughter poses in a bikini at age 19 you would TOTALLY support her wearing the scarlet letter for the rest of her life, right?

My daughter will be smarter than that.


Or she won't be your daughter anymore amirite?
 
2012-10-07 02:54:57 PM
Hot for Teacher!
 
2012-10-07 02:55:10 PM

xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.


So... You're planning to send your daughter to a nunnery? It is possible to find stupidity in EVERYONE's life at one point or another. I'm feeling comfortable making this statement since you aren't a Saint married to another Saint.
 
2012-10-07 02:56:57 PM

siyuntz: TFA: Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.



And there it is.


And in the last line no less.
 
2012-10-07 02:58:59 PM
Those titties are serious.
 
2012-10-07 03:00:17 PM
Does this mean we can now legally fire anyone for risque behavior? Golly I hope so! The we can bump up those unemployment numbers and hire only droll zombie puritans!
 
2012-10-07 03:00:37 PM
84,000$ a year to hand out college brochures? And we wonder why school systems are failing so badly.
 
2012-10-07 03:01:04 PM

siyuntz: TFA: Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.



And there it is.


And I'm guessing a win in court.

Why do we have dickheads in charge of our children's education?
 
2012-10-07 03:02:39 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.

Geesh, you must be boring.

When you're young, most of your time is spend making poor decisions.
Eventually, you outgrow that stage.



In order to become old and wise, you must first be young and stupid
 
2012-10-07 03:03:39 PM

xl5150: dmars: I hope your daughter becomes a stripper, only for like a couple months

Not gonna happen. I've already got the schools picked out and funded all the way through USC, and I'll be paying for all of it.


I'm sensing that your daughter will at some point have reason for rebellion, and that will lead to some sort of poor choice. And if she's pretty, something sexy to piss you off.
 
2012-10-07 03:07:06 PM

xl5150: dmars: I hope your daughter becomes a stripper, only for like a couple months

Not gonna happen. I've already got the schools picked out and funded all the way through USC, and I'll be paying for all of it.


Beverly Hills? Bwahah. Now I now there will be bad choices. LOL
 
2012-10-07 03:08:35 PM
84,000.00 a year to be a GUIDANCE COUNSELER?????

Even in NYC, this is outrageous. And TENURE???

TENURE IS F.B.S.
No other position in society offers tenure, WHY DO TEACHERS GET IT???

I've just about had enough of these "I'm entitled to this", or" if the parents would only get involved" BS, you knew what being a teacher was all about when you became one, so STFU!!!
(I'm a teacher, I know what i'm talking about)
 
2012-10-07 03:11:19 PM

eurotrader: With social media and people posting picture of every mundane and stupid thing they do how anyone will be able to become a teacher and stay a teacher after attending college where pictures of the racy and stupid actions are par for the course. If a kid has access to pictures of a teacher scantily clad from 17 years ago and goatse I can see why the old pictures of the teacher could cause a problem.


You don't go to parties. You don't go to bars within a two-town radius of your school, and you pretty much abandon Facebook. You don't dress up like anything fun for Halloween, and you are NEVER, EVER pictured near alcohol, let alone drinking it. please kill me now.
 
2012-10-07 03:11:24 PM

siyuntz: TFA: Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.



And there it is.


Whenever I hear of firings that seems of a stretched reasoning, this is exactly one of the first things I wonder about.
 
2012-10-07 03:12:09 PM

wambu: Why do we have dickheads in charge of our children's education?


Because we elected them.
 
2012-10-07 03:14:09 PM
Considering she's been cleared of this twice and cited of excellent performance reviews each time, I suspect she may have grounds for undue termination.

/IANAL.
 
2012-10-07 03:14:38 PM
Not sure how hot she is. Can't see her knees.
 
2012-10-07 03:15:19 PM

xl5150: dmars: I hope your daughter becomes a stripper, only for like a couple months

Not gonna happen. I've already got the schools picked out and funded all the way through USC, and I'll be paying for all of it.


I'm amused that you think the price of college in California today will have any relation to the price in twenty years
 
2012-10-07 03:16:17 PM

meintx2001: So... You're planning to send your daughter to a nunnery? It is possible to find stupidity in EVERYONE's life at one point or another. I'm feeling comfortable making this statement since you aren't a Saint married to another Saint.


Well, if he's an endowed married mormon, he may be.

/ All temple married mormons are saints married to another saint.
// Seriously, look at the name!
/// My own planet.
 
2012-10-07 03:18:58 PM

wambu: siyuntz: TFA: Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.



And there it is.

And I'm guessing a win in court.

Why do we have dickheads in charge of our children's education?


Governments, corporations, institutions of all sorts - dickheads are in charge of the lot. Worldwide. Move up high enough in any organisation and its all dickheads. Usually beginning with anyone given authority over others.
 
mhd
2012-10-07 03:22:20 PM
So what about bikini shots? This is about the same level regarding puritan outrage, and will get increasingly more common with social networking leftovers.

What's next, asking a fireman whether he posed for a calender before rescuing you? Because you surely would rather get to the Pearly Gates a bit earlier instead...
 
2012-10-07 03:22:46 PM

meintx2001: xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.

So... You're planning to send your daughter to a nunnery? It is possible to find stupidity in EVERYONE's life at one point or another. I'm feeling comfortable making this statement since you aren't a Saint married to another Saint.


He's trolling.
 
2012-10-07 03:29:53 PM

xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.


I see a Smart button and a Funny button, but where's the Retard button?
 
2012-10-07 03:31:38 PM
I'm not into the sisters much, but....wow.

i.dailymail.co.uk 

/and if this is as "racy" as it got, GMAFB
 
2012-10-07 03:33:09 PM

wildcardjack: lingerie photos? lingerie photos!

She's going to cost them millions over this case of constructive dismissal. She was 20 and near perfect. Do we have any current photos? I personally believe that all hot chicks should do a photoshoot in their prime so the world has a record of that fleeting beauty.


Shouldn't be a problem! Most hot chicks love the camera.

If I was attractive, I'd enjoy the camera too
 
2012-10-07 03:34:00 PM

NickBush24: xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.

I see a Smart button and a Funny button, but where's the Retard button?


Just to the right of the date on the comment.
 
2012-10-07 03:35:24 PM

NickBush24: xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.

I see a Smart button and a Funny button, but where's the Retard button?


i47.tinypic.com

You make your own. Sticks with them that way.
 
2012-10-07 03:42:40 PM

LindenFark: siyuntz: TFA: Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.

And there it is.

That Hypothesis Is Sound


I'm sure she made good money when those photos were taken and at the time she was able to pay for an education. She has nothing to be ashamed of.
Oh, what? Black woman in a position of influence? Prettier than us and influencing our kids? I am outraged!
Student that made a big deal out of this should be kicked in the sack violently. Out him publicly.
 
2012-10-07 03:44:04 PM

xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.


Save everyone some trouble. Abort now.
 
2012-10-07 03:46:02 PM
Where are the pics that are actually her, not her face pasted on hip hop models?
 
2012-10-07 03:46:10 PM
Yeah, the fact that was discovered mere days before she was to gain tenure certainly makes the timing look very suspicious. The photos are just a convenient excuse to fire someone who it appears has an exemplary work record.

One of the worst things our culture is undergoing is the loss of the ability to forget. Forgetfulness has been, in many cases, a blessing. Forgetfulness meant that there were no pictures of the time you got stupid-drunk and passed out. No pictures of you sucking on a bong. You and your girlfriend took racy polaroids of each other but they got forgotten at the back of a drawer after you broke up and were eventually thrown out. That misdemeanor arrest for public urination or shoplifting was at the back of a file cabinet in a disused lavatory in the basement of the courthouse in your college town with "Beware of the Leopard" on the door and anyway nobody cared about stuff like that from more than five years back.

In about 20 years it'll be the 10% of Americans who've never made a stupid decision in their lives who'll be the only people able to get a job. *Any* job.
 
2012-10-07 03:46:13 PM
AbbeySomeone: Oh, what? Black woman in a position of influence? Prettier than us and influencing our kids? I am outraged!

Regardless of color, I would not be comfortable with someone who makes decisions like that being in a position of authority with my kid. I would certainly work to get her fired if she were around my kid and something like that came to light.
 
2012-10-07 03:46:35 PM
Well of course she should be fired. She made some poor choices 20 years ago and she should never be forgiven.
 
2012-10-07 03:47:55 PM
Webb disclosed her former career when first hired. Yet she was investigated by the DOE three times - and twice spent a year in the "rubber room" - while officials probed the photos.
 
2012-10-07 03:49:09 PM
MAYORBOB: Well of course she should be fired. She made some poor choices 20 years ago and she should never be forgiven.

Poor choices in the past could easily lead to poor choices in the future. I wouldn't want my daughter around someone who makes choices like that.
 
2012-10-07 03:52:30 PM

xl5150: MAYORBOB: Well of course she should be fired. She made some poor choices 20 years ago and she should never be forgiven.

Poor choices in the past could easily lead to poor choices in the future. I wouldn't want my daughter around someone who makes choices like that.


So you've done background checks on everyone your daughter may come in contact with? Because I'm pretty sure almost everyone has made choices you would consider "poor". Or maybe you should simply lock her in the house until she's 18.
 
2012-10-07 03:54:54 PM

The Headless Horseman's Headless Horse: wichitaleaf: $84k a year for a guidance counselor.
Jebus.

In Manhattan. That's the equivalent of ~$40,000 in most other areas of the country.


Yeah I'm generally a hater on huge teacher salaries but 84k in Manhattan sounds like almost welfare.
 
2012-10-07 03:55:43 PM
What the committee who fired her may look like.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-07 03:56:40 PM
Olfin Bedwere: So you've done background checks on everyone your daughter may come in contact with? Because I'm pretty sure almost everyone has made choices you would consider "poor". Or maybe you should simply lock her in the house until she's 18.

No, I will make the investment to send her to private schools that have high enough morals and a vetting process of their own to ensure that she won't come into contact with someone like that. If it comes out that someone like that had slipped through the cracks, I would work hard to make sure that the offending person was fired (and probably the staff that hired her in the first place).
 
2012-10-07 04:03:53 PM
Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.

...slated to gain a professional contract thereby requiring a reason for termination, interventions after poor performance, and preference over annual contracts when terminations are needed as a result of funding.
 
2012-10-07 04:05:27 PM
Excellent job xl5150. I give you a 10/10.
 
2012-10-07 04:08:36 PM
Oh, come on people, being a lingere or swimsuit model is not a "poor choice". It's a job.

I suppose they'd fire anyone who'd ever been a Miss America contestant too, because of the swimsuit contest.
 
2012-10-07 04:13:25 PM
Firing someone for SFW pictures 17 years ago is stupid. I was on her side up until I saw she was asking for punitive damages, which makes me hesitate. If she's asking for something like a year's back salary in damages, I can see that. If she's asking for millions, then no, fark her. And good luck finding someone else who will hire you after that.
 
2012-10-07 04:15:23 PM

xl5150: dumbgai: You had me going until USC!

What's so unbelievable about USC? She'll be third generation.


I'm so terribly sorry.
 
2012-10-07 04:16:20 PM

moralpanic: Where's the todays pic? Fark, you failed me again.


Just pretend she looks like this. Judging by the old pic it might be pretty close...
 
2012-10-07 04:17:20 PM
That looks shopped

allgoodnamesrtaken.com

/can tell from the pixels
 
2012-10-07 04:18:03 PM

dpzum1: 84,000.00 a year to be a GUIDANCE COUNSELER?????

Even in NYC, this is outrageous. And TENURE???

TENURE IS F.B.S.
No other position in society offers tenure, WHY DO TEACHERS GET IT???

I've just about had enough of these "I'm entitled to this", or" if the parents would only get involved" BS, you knew what being a teacher was all about when you became one, so STFU!!!
(I'm a teacher, I know what i'm talking about)



You are not a teacher, stop lying.
 
2012-10-07 04:21:10 PM

xl5150: No, I will make the investment to send her to private schools that have high enough morals and a vetting process of their own to ensure that she won't come into contact with someone like that. If it comes out that someone like that had slipped through the cracks, I would work hard to make sure that the offending person was fired (and probably the staff that hired her in the first place).


I'm still not sure if you are serious. How is doing modeling a poor moral choice? How can you live in California and be this conservative? It is confusing and unbelievable to say the least. Your proposed actions come off as petty and severe. You seem like the kind of person that is in favor of legislating morality.
 
2012-10-07 04:24:22 PM

xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.


What a role model to young women looks like

www.bangla2000.com

/Teacher for more than 12 years. Mother of 4.Television Personality and Motivational Speaker
//Beautiful woman inside and out
///Is my personal role model. I met her in 2004 when I was in High School and I do go to her for guidance and advice.
 
2012-10-07 04:27:27 PM
TheKiltedDutchman: How can you live in California and be this conservative?

And that's the part where I realized you don't know what you're talking about.

'Cause, you know, Beverly Hills is a liberal hotbed. Also check out south Orange County. They'll love your liberal kind there.
 
2012-10-07 04:28:45 PM

TheKiltedDutchman: I'm still not sure if you are serious


Of course he's not. Am I the only one that sees that?

a0.twimg.com
 
2012-10-07 04:29:07 PM
Fake article
 
2012-10-07 04:31:30 PM

xl5150: MAYORBOB: Well of course she should be fired. She made some poor choices 20 years ago and she should never be forgiven.

Poor choices in the past could easily lead to poor choices in the future. I wouldn't want my daughter around someone who makes choices like that.


I will bite.
First, please define, in detail, what was so poor about her choice that should prevent her from working with children.

Second, please explain the argument how people who have made poor choices and grown beyond them are less capable of advising children who may be faced with similar situations.

Third, please justify your contention that behavior 17 years ago is more relevant as a predictor of future behavior than behavior from the past 12 years.

I truly and sincerely hope that your are a troll (though I am pretty sure that you are one). If you really have this big a stick up your ass, there is little chance that your daughter, should you ever find someone willing to have sex with you, will end up anywhere but turning tricks in a back alley.
 
2012-10-07 04:32:22 PM

xl5150: No, I will make the investment to send her to private schools that have high enough morals and a vetting process of their own to ensure that she won't come into contact with someone like that. If it comes out that someone like that had slipped through the cracks, I would work hard to make sure that the offending person was fired (and probably the staff that hired her in the first place).


Well..aren't we special.

/you should have stopped after the first one. You're just being silly now.
 
2012-10-07 04:42:00 PM
Webb disclosed her former career when first hired. Yet she was investigated by the DOE three times - and twice spent a year in the "rubber room" - while officials probed the photos.

Each time, she was cleared to return to work with students. 


Your tax dollars at work people. Cough it up - we've got idiocrats to fund.
 
2012-10-07 04:53:03 PM

xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.


The proper way to ride a broom is either side-saddle or astride,not impaled on the end.
That being said,you've done a fantastic job today.
Kudos.
 
2012-10-07 04:57:23 PM
I made the mistake of clicking a sidebar link

i.dailymail.co.uk

WHAT THE FARKING HELL IS THAT?

(nevermind, I really don't want to know)
 
2012-10-07 05:04:02 PM

Therion: WHAT THE FARKING HELL IS THAT?


i.ytimg.com
 
2012-10-07 05:13:04 PM
Unless the pics show her burying an axe in someone's forehead, I fail to see why it should be a problem.
 
2012-10-07 05:25:08 PM
Religious folk, making everything miserable for everyone....
 
2012-10-07 05:57:45 PM
Permanent Record strikes again
 
2012-10-07 05:58:04 PM

wingedkat: Oh, come on people, being a lingere or swimsuit model is not a "poor choice". It's a job.

I suppose they'd fire anyone who'd ever been a Miss America contestant too, because of the swimsuit contest.


Yup. I don't have the slightest problem with it. Go ahead, model. Even nude.
 
2012-10-07 05:58:26 PM

Gramma: Unless the pics show her burying an axe in someone's forehead, I fail to see why it should be a problem.


what if she were wearing a nightie while doing it?
 
2012-10-07 06:06:55 PM
xl5150
You should be a commercial fisherman with all the trolling you've done here.
 
2012-10-07 06:23:20 PM
Pose with your pants off a few times in your teens and you can forget about a real career for the rest of your life. Awesome.
 
2012-10-07 06:25:27 PM

xl5150: I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.


You sound like a guilty masturbator.
 
2012-10-07 06:36:06 PM

xl5150: No, I will make the investment to send her to private schools that have high enough morals and a vetting process of their own to ensure that she won't come into contact with someone like that.


I did ER time to get my EMT certification in a city with a standard upper middle class liberal arts school and one ivy school. The ER tech said you could tell which school the intoxicated kids came from based on their drug. Liberal arts school - alcohol. Ivy - heroin.

Good luck keeping your daughter pure, my friend. Good luck.
 
2012-10-07 06:40:24 PM
He's crazy
 
2012-10-07 06:41:47 PM

Loren: wingedkat: Oh, come on people, being a lingere or swimsuit model is not a "poor choice". It's a job.

I suppose they'd fire anyone who'd ever been a Miss America contestant too, because of the swimsuit contest.

Yup. I don't have the slightest problem with it. Go ahead, model. Even nude.


Seriously. Either we go Saudi Arabia and black out women's bodies in all graphic materials or we accept that these models/porn actors/etc will move on with their lives and get real jobs. This double standard is intollerable.
 
2012-10-07 06:48:52 PM
Wow, she is beautiful. Why would you fire her? I'd keep her on and move her office closer to mine so I could "supervise" her.
 
2012-10-07 07:21:29 PM

Therion: I made the mistake of clicking a sidebar link

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x931]

WHAT THE FARKING HELL IS THAT?

(nevermind, I really don't want to know)


I...I think it's Mickey Rourke...
 
2012-10-07 07:28:20 PM

LiberalEastCoastElitist: Loren: wingedkat: Oh, come on people, being a lingere or swimsuit model is not a "poor choice". It's a job.

I suppose they'd fire anyone who'd ever been a Miss America contestant too, because of the swimsuit contest.

Yup. I don't have the slightest problem with it. Go ahead, model. Even nude.

Seriously. Either we go Saudi Arabia and black out women's bodies in all graphic materials or we accept that these models/porn actors/etc will move on with their lives and get real jobs. This double standard is intollerable.


Congratulations! You just gave the fundies their slippery slope! Good jorb.

///I agree that this woman's firing is ridiculous if it occurred as reported. I also recognize there is a limit. A woman with footage on the intertubes of her taking 3 dicks at once will never be able to command a classroom of 9th graders (every single one of whom would have seen it before the first day of class, as would their dads).
 
2012-10-07 08:03:29 PM

notatrollorami: LiberalEastCoastElitist: Loren: wingedkat: Oh, come on people, being a lingere or swimsuit model is not a "poor choice". It's a job.

I suppose they'd fire anyone who'd ever been a Miss America contestant too, because of the swimsuit contest.

Yup. I don't have the slightest problem with it. Go ahead, model. Even nude.

Seriously. Either we go Saudi Arabia and black out women's bodies in all graphic materials or we accept that these models/porn actors/etc will move on with their lives and get real jobs. This double standard is intollerable.

Congratulations! You just gave the fundies their slippery slope! Good jorb.

///I agree that this woman's firing is ridiculous if it occurred as reported. I also recognize there is a limit. A woman with footage on the intertubes of her taking 3 dicks at once will never be able to command a classroom of 9th graders (every single one of whom would have seen it before the first day of class, as would their dads).


I see you took his slippery slope and doubled down with one of your own
 
2012-10-07 08:09:26 PM
Once upon a time it was unconscionable to think that a U.S. President could be elected with the public knowing he'd ever had a "toke" from a marijuana cigarette or "joint." Not enough to come down with the reefer madness, mind you, but inhaling the smoke. Perhaps he sought a high, or just to appear "hip" and "with it" to his contemporaries as they sat around thumbing their noses at the "squares."

Imagine Truman, Eisenhower, or Nixon smoking a hookah filled with "Maui Jane" or "Columbian Wowie". You can't conceive of it, can you? Of course not. Herbert Hoover High? Nonsense. But fast forward, though. Fast forward as if you were on the amphetamines, and you'll find not only one, but the last three Presidents of the United States, one still in office and the previous two elected to two terms each. All of them confessing to having smoked hand-rolled marijuana cigarettes, or "doobies", when they were still young men.

I can see a day when many of our elected officials will admit to having used not only the marijuana, but amphetamines or "pep pills", perhaps the ecstasy drug for dancing to the dubbed step-music. And not only the recreational drug use, but the photographs, video-tapes, you-tubes, and sext messages containing graphic content will come to light. We will find out as our mayors, congressional representatives, school board members, aldermen, senators, and yes, even the highest office in the land have participated in these deviant, counter-culture activities. For, you see, as these practices become more mainstream, they are no longer deviant or counter-culture, but the rites of passage of our youths and eventually the Sunday afternoon past-times of our seniors.

Perhaps even now, the young man who will campaign for the office of President of the United States, is laying on a table, wearing a lacy brassiere, eye makeup, garters, stockings, and high heeled shoes. His legs are in a sling suspended from the ceiling and his hands are cuffed and held over his head. His young lady friend wears a harness displaying large, silicone phallus. Wearing this "strap-on" she will simulate the act of sexual intercourse with the young man, except in this instance the traditional roles of husband and wife are reversed, turning the marital union on its head, as it were. And should this young man display the level-headedness, fortitude, and rational thinking needed to lead our great nation, it's entirely possible that we will not be concerned that he so documented his peculiar sexual predilections. We'll find it utterly unremarkable. Perhaps even charming as we nod and wink over our coffee, remembering the times that we, in our youth, wore a Darth Vader buttplug to work and sent a text message to our sweethearts telling them about it. Or perhaps used the camera in our "Smart" cellular telephone to capture an image me flicking my tongue at my nipple ring, or showing my penis encased in a chastity-cage with a text-overly saying, "Day 46".

Then we'll all remember when Bob Dylan sang, "The TImes, They ARE Changing" and wonder what self-stimulating sexual apparatus encased his genitals while he did.
 
2012-10-07 08:13:10 PM

austin_millbarge: [i235.photobucket.com image 296x216]

GUIDANCE?!?!


I see your Spies Like Us and raise you a Clerks.
 
2012-10-07 08:48:08 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Once upon a time it was unconscionable to think that a U.S. President could be elected with the public knowing he'd ever had a "toke" from a marijuana cigarette or "joint." Not enough to come down with the reefer madness, mind you, but inhaling the smoke. Perhaps he sought a high, or just to appear "hip" and "with it" to his contemporaries as they sat around thumbing their noses at the "squares."

Imagine Truman, Eisenhower, or Nixon smoking a hookah filled with "Maui Jane" or "Columbian Wowie". You can't conceive of it, can you? Of course not. Herbert Hoover High? Nonsense. But fast forward, though. Fast forward as if you were on the amphetamines, and you'll find not only one, but the last three Presidents of the United States, one still in office and the previous two elected to two terms each. All of them confessing to having smoked hand-rolled marijuana cigarettes, or "doobies", when they were still young men.

I can see a day when many of our elected officials will admit to having used not only the marijuana, but amphetamines or "pep pills", perhaps the ecstasy drug for dancing to the dubbed step-music. And not only the recreational drug use, but the photographs, video-tapes, you-tubes, and sext messages containing graphic content will come to light. We will find out as our mayors, congressional representatives, school board members, aldermen, senators, and yes, even the highest office in the land have participated in these deviant, counter-culture activities. For, you see, as these practices become more mainstream, they are no longer deviant or counter-culture, but the rites of passage of our youths and eventually the Sunday afternoon past-times of our seniors.

Perhaps even now, the young man who will campaign for the office of President of the United States, is laying on a table, wearing a lacy brassiere, eye makeup, garters, stockings, and high heeled shoes. His legs are in a sling suspended from the ceiling and his hands are cuffed and held over his head. H ...


This really needed to be posted way earlier.
 
2012-10-07 08:50:20 PM

xl5150: I don't see a problem with letting her go. There are some people who should work with kids and some who shouldn't. I admit that I enjoy looking at racy pictures of women, but that doesn't mean that the women who pose for pictures like that should be entrusted with being role models or otherwise shaping the future of kids who come to them looking for advice and guidance.

I have a daughter on the way, and when she's in school I'm going to make sure that none of the teachers and faculty she comes into contact with have made poor decisions such as this.


My oldest daughter summarized parenting in our little part of the world (Dogpatch by the Sea) as the struggle to keep one's daughter "off the pole." This from a child who at one point expressed her desire to work in a New Orleans bar that had a pole.
 
2012-10-07 08:52:33 PM

DownDaRiver: StoPPeRmobile: eurotrader: With social media and people posting picture of every mundane and stupid thing they do how anyone will be able to become a teacher and stay a teacher after attending college where pictures of the racy and stupid actions are par for the course. If a kid has access to pictures of a teacher scantily clad from 17 years ago and goatse I can see why the old pictures of the teacher could cause a problem.

Where are we going to get cops from?

Uh, I believe you are thinking that that someone who carries a gun would be subject to the same standards as someone who carries pencils.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-07 09:03:13 PM
It's a shame that we have to worry about shiat like this happening to us. I'm a new teacher who just graduated from college. A year ago, while still in school, I deleted my FB, twitter, and untagged myself in every picture on FB. I was at a party this summer where people were doing shots, keg stands, etc. Yes, I did a keg stand. But not before warning everyone to please not take pictures. After seeing a flash go off, I had to track the person down and watch them delete it.

My point? I have no idea. I suppose that it seems like you have to pretend you're a protected political figure when teaching nowadays.



Or maybe it's nothing new, I guess.
 
2012-10-07 09:45:17 PM

ha-ha-guy: Wait you can get tenure at a high school...?


Common practice for most teachers' unions.
True for grade schools and middle schools.

In California the district has to make their determination after 2 years (so 18 months of service). After that, your committed, the teacher is tenured and your hands are tied unless he or she is convicted of a felony.
 
2012-10-07 09:54:04 PM

Tainted1: notatrollorami: LiberalEastCoastElitist: Loren: wingedkat: Oh, come on people, being a lingere or swimsuit model is not a "poor choice". It's a job.

I suppose they'd fire anyone who'd ever been a Miss America contestant too, because of the swimsuit contest.

Yup. I don't have the slightest problem with it. Go ahead, model. Even nude.

Seriously. Either we go Saudi Arabia and black out women's bodies in all graphic materials or we accept that these models/porn actors/etc will move on with their lives and get real jobs. This double standard is intollerable.

Congratulations! You just gave the fundies their slippery slope! Good jorb.

///I agree that this woman's firing is ridiculous if it occurred as reported. I also recognize there is a limit. A woman with footage on the intertubes of her taking 3 dicks at once will never be able to command a classroom of 9th graders (every single one of whom would have seen it before the first day of class, as would their dads).

I see you took his slippery slope and doubled down with one of your own


If that was a logical fallacy, it was definitely false dichotomy. If you're going to use logical fallacies instead of organizing an actual argument, at least get them straight.
 
2012-10-07 10:54:53 PM

laid back w/bud light: xl5150
You should be a commercial fisherman with all the trolling you've done here.


Between him and climate change, the world's fisheries are doomed sooner than later.
 
2012-10-08 12:19:35 AM

ha-ha-guy: Wait you can get tenure at a high school...?


In any state where the teachers' union has teeth, you can get tenure for teaching kindergarten. I'm surprised that you don't know that, being from the High-Five State and all.
 
2012-10-08 02:43:10 AM

siyuntz: TFA: Her firing came just before she was slated to gain tenure.



And there it is.


Yup used a convenient excuse to cane her before she got it and now they are going get burned due to it or should.

The fact she told them about it when she was hired and that was cleared twice before kind of leave the school district with out a leg to stand on.
 
2012-10-08 02:49:46 AM
The idea that posing in scant clothing is somehow morally reprehensible and a sign of a poor role model is so 1920's. Judging someone based on something so harmless 17 years after the fact is also inconceivable.

And yes, I do know what the word means.
 
2012-10-08 06:12:43 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Firing someone for SFW pictures 17 years ago is stupid. I was on her side up until I saw she was asking for punitive damages, which makes me hesitate.


I'm fine with punitive damages. Seriously, teachers have the same right to a private life (and a past life) as every other person. We have not sold our souls to become teachers. Racy photos aren't illegal. Photography, even outright porn, is protected by the 1st amendment (and equivalent protections in Canada). School districts (and puritan administrators) need to be sharply reminded of this whenever they step out of line.
 
2012-10-08 10:29:51 AM

Theaetetus: stevarooni: Not that I think it's right for her to be fired for this, but if her litigation is all about this one event, then I can't imagine her sex discrimination and 1st amendment suits are going to have traction. Wrongful termination? Maybe so.

The sex discrimination claim won't be about her being fired over pictures, it'll be that they really fired her to avoid having to give a woman tenure. It'll focus on the gender ratio of tenured teachers compared the ratio of teachers who are employed and/or up for tenure soon. If lots of female teachers keep getting fired shortly before obtaining tenure, that's sex discrimination.


Or statistics... Seriously, about 9 out of 10 teachers are women. You really think that over 90% of those not receiving tenure are women? -Even if they were, that would be a stretch to prove with statistical anomalies meaning that can vary *at least* another 5%.
 
2012-10-08 02:20:24 PM
A more recent pic:
cdn.eurweb.com
I'd provide her with a DNA sample
 
2012-10-08 05:51:30 PM
Probably should've given that property release form a once-over, eh?
 
2012-10-08 06:00:17 PM

xl5150: TheKiltedDutchman: How can you live in California and be this conservative?

And that's the part where I realized you don't know what you're talking about.

'Cause, you know, Beverly Hills is a liberal hotbed. Also check out south Orange County. They'll love your liberal kind there.


Late to the party. If you are not trolling (you are), I bet your daughter winds up giving blow jobs for crack, or what ever is 'the drug of choice', in an alley somewhere just to get the fark away from you.
 
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