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(The New York Times)   California requires their own special seasonal blends of gas that aren't the same as what the rest of the country uses, then complains about how high their gas prices are. Oh, and it doesn't help when the local refineries crap out   (nytimes.com) divider line 36
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2012-10-07 03:42:41 PM
6 votes:
Call me snooty, but I always love the time of year when I switch over to Pumpkin Spiced Unleaded.
2012-10-07 02:58:13 PM
3 votes:
As a reminder to all Californians considering a move to the north: Oregon is terrible and rains all the time.
2012-10-07 04:09:24 PM
2 votes:

Pray 4 Mojo: I just bought one of these:

[images.dealerrevs.com image 480x360]

$150 doesn't even fill it up and it gets about 13mpg.

Love it.


But where are the weapons and the push bar? Then it would be worth it.

I use one of these for transportation:

img.photobucket.com

(with titanium trucks and semi-hards) and it costs me an ice coffee, made at home, to power it. Ta-Da!

/no emissions unless I have bean burrito, so bonus!
2012-10-07 04:08:35 PM
2 votes:

Pray 4 Mojo: This just in:

California sucks.

That is all.


Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of how awesome we are.
2012-10-07 03:35:27 PM
2 votes:

pedrop357: Given that the vast majority of cars on the road are fuel injected (nearly all are port injected no less) with all the requisite computer control over fueling, why do we need oxygenated fuel at all?

Any car with an oxygen sensor whose feedback is used to control the fueling process adjusts for oxygen density differences continuously. The only thing that oxygenated fuel does for fuel injected cars is cause the computer to increase injector duty cycle (more fuel) to compensate. Some cars have the added benefit of losing top end power because of injectors that are near the edge of their limits with non-oxygenated fuel and simply can't flow more fuel to make up for the extra oxygen.

Maybe someone else can explain how oxygenated fuel makes any emissions difference in any computer controlled fuel system that uses O2 sensor(s) for feedback (probably ~80+% of the cars on the road today).


Or you could look it up. Wouldn't it be crazy if you were connected to a computer network where this kind of information was available at your fingertips?

Try searching under "oxygenated fuel"
2012-10-07 03:08:39 PM
2 votes:
It doesn't help that there hasn't been a new refinery built in the us in at least 30 years; and there's a lot more demand for gas. Not only that; but many refineries have been closed for one reason or another.

This is what happens when oil companies yield to the will of the EPA. They see that the price of oil will go up as a consequence of the refinery closing.

Oil is at $89 per barrel; that's less than $2 a gallon. Add in taxes; processing and shipping and a gallon of gas costs anywhere from $2.50 - $2.90 to produce. In some cases; we pay $5 a gallon. Some of that is oil futures; but what is the rest? Pure profit.

/ I know there are other factors; but, most of the remainer is profiteering
2012-10-07 03:00:57 PM
2 votes:
Oh, and it doesn't help when the local refineries crap out

... purely coincidentally just before the election.
2012-10-07 10:04:34 PM
1 votes:

wildcardjack: I'm trying to separate my income from location so I can take the advice of Tom Waits, which is to spend some time in New York, but leave before it makes you hard, and some time in LA, but leave before it makes you soft.


That was San Francisco that makes you soft. LA just makes you pretentious.
2012-10-07 08:08:09 PM
1 votes:

xl5150: o5iiawah: $150/week is about $7.500/yr.

Thats a trip to Oktoberfest for 4 days with about $4000 leftover. If you dont want yours, can I has?


I don't think anyone making $7-something an hour will be taking any trips to Oktoberfest. That was precisely my point. For people who make plenty of money, that extra $150 a week is discretionary. For people who are low-wage earners, it's not going to raise them above the level they currently are.


That's what I tell the poor people that work for me when they ask for more money. I swear I have to explain it to them like children. "A buck or two an hour for you is not really going to make any difference... but if I keep it all... that's a few grand a week I get to keep! Seriously, what's more important... that you guys get to have a fast food dinner an extra night a week... or that I get the upgraded bathroom fixtures on my yacht?"

Farking poor people... they're so selfish... and they're farking kids are already too fat.
2012-10-07 07:14:11 PM
1 votes:

badLogic: It cracks me up how people hate on California, I think it is mostly jealousy.


No, it is the batshiat insanery of your politicians and the fact you have 30 million+ people living in a desert draining water from watersheds of other states.
2012-10-07 07:13:22 PM
1 votes:
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2012-10-07 06:28:55 PM
1 votes:
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2012-10-07 05:08:26 PM
1 votes:

Minimum: Pray 4 Mojo: This just in:

California sucks.

That is all.

Living in SoCal.

All I can say is:

This is news?

Our governor is nicknamed Moonbeam. The idiots in this state re elected him after he screwed things up in the 70's.
Looking to move out of here as soon as it is practical.


As someone who escaped in '99, I'm rooting for you.

/GET OUT
2012-10-07 05:00:54 PM
1 votes:

onyxruby: drjekel_mrhyde: I think it has something to do with our multiple climates and hilly areas

Would it really be that hard to come up with one blend that worked in urban ares and the rest? Economies of scale dictate that if your only making one thing your going to make it cheaply.

Establish a more environmentally friendly flavor for California and then standardize the nation on that one formula. Everyone wins with a more environmentally friendly blend and cheaper prices as your no longer beholden to artificial monopolies.


STOP

MAKING

SENSE
2012-10-07 04:31:03 PM
1 votes:
Gosh-damn to hell 'n gone! I was back in California in 71-72 when gas skyrocketed from 0.35/gal. to the unheard of 0.50 a gallon! I'll tell you right now we were outraged,outraged I say.The stations(no selfserve those days)that still had gas formed lines a half mile long for rationing.We went on cold weather training to the Mojave Desert in July. Years later I find out we were doing prelimenary exercises to invade Saudia Arabia and protect our oil rights.
So west coasters,grab your bootstraps and suck it up.You deserve it.
2012-10-07 04:20:15 PM
1 votes:

Real Women Drink Akvavit: (with titanium trucks and semi-hards)


I have that problem too.
2012-10-07 04:07:37 PM
1 votes:

onyxruby: Why can't we simply have one formula across the country and standardize on it? Get the EPA to approve a formula of blah and leave it at that. This kind of thing is entirely the kind of self wrought insanity that needs to end.


I think it has something to do with our multiple climates and hilly areas
2012-10-07 04:03:16 PM
1 votes:

Cyclometh: Why was this the last line in TFA? Should have been first.

"Her firing came just before she was to get tenure."

Pretty goddamn obvious why she got canned. Also pretty obvious some heads will roll and she'll win that lawsuit.


OK, so I've done another Fark first. Been here five years and never did the "Post on the wrong thread" thing. I feel all special.

Carry on.
2012-10-07 03:53:50 PM
1 votes:
Actually, the entire country uses the same blends. There's a summer blend and a winter blend. The problem is while the rest of the country switches to the winter blend at the beginning of October, California waits another month to make the switch. This produces a gas shortage every damn year along with the subsequent price hike.
2012-10-07 03:43:17 PM
1 votes:
12349876: You don't know how the other half lives.

Sure I do. The summer after 11th grade my dad made me get a job for the entire summer to show me what it's like to have to work for a living. I had to spend 3 days a week working for $11 an hour (this was the mid 90s, so it was minimum wage back then). It taught me a valuable lesson about the working man, so I resent the remark that I don't know how the other half lives.

12349876: I'm in the gas station convenience store from time to time because the big stores don't sell Mountain Dew Throwback, and you'd be surprised how many people are getting gas. One guy the other day used a roll of nickels and a few high value coins to get 5 bucks of gas

Then it's on them to work and make themselves marketable so that they can demand more for their services. I don't feel bad for anyone who sits around moaning about their situation and doesn't do anything to improve it.
2012-10-07 03:34:58 PM
1 votes:

L.D. Ablo: As a kid, we had smog days at school where we weren't allowed out for PE or recess. You could see the smog hanging in the air. It was awful.

I remember those days well. We had to play (without running, so we didn't die of teh azmuh) inside. I'm in NorCal now, so I have to put up with tree pollen and the dreaded cottonwood instead.

steamingpile: L.D. Ablo: Did you ever stop to think that it may be due to factories being cleaner and nothing to do with car emissions? I know what has been preached to you for over two decades but they could be wrong.


My Mother retired from the Air Resources Board. The only job in the US she ever had. Every time they'd manage to give new recommendations to either factories or for car emissions, she'd get death threats as people who were against improving air quality would start handing out the phone numbers for everyone at ARB. It was a combination of factors causing smog and no one wanted to fix it, not the car manufacturers, the drivers of those cars or the factory owners/managers. If the levees are crumbling, you don't patch just one section, you have to do your best to fix everything. Same with air quality and SoCal's smog (which has improved dramatically - I was down there just 4 or 5 months ago and was delighted with the results.)

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: As a reminder to all Californians considering a move to the north: Oregon is terrible and rains all the time.


You left out the freaky, kid-killing religious extremists known as Oregon City Followers of Christ Church and the occasional former member who will speak out about weird teachings and fatal shenanigans. The relative tolerance of fatal child neglect for "religious freedom" is one of the scariest things about Oregon IMO. I'll stay in Overpriced stuff but year round growing season, no tolerance for "faith healing" that kills others and lovely weather land, thanks.
2012-10-07 03:27:13 PM
1 votes:
Because California is the ONLY state that expects special treatment for their regional foolishness? Please. What do you think the Senate does?
2012-10-07 03:20:14 PM
1 votes:
Why does California have a so called "Winter blend gasoline"? There's no winter here in California.
2012-10-07 03:17:29 PM
1 votes:

Mithiwithi: Minimum: The idiots in this state re elected him after he screwed things up kept Prop 13 from totally screwing things up in the 70's.

What exactly did Jerry Brown screw up in the 70's, anyway?


Linda Rondstat
2012-10-07 03:17:19 PM
1 votes:
Yes, it sucks. Everyone please move somewhere else. I keep hearing lots of jobs in Ohio.
2012-10-07 03:14:59 PM
1 votes:
I'm trying to separate my income from location so I can take the advice of Tom Waits, which is to spend some time in New York, but leave before it makes you hard, and some time in LA, but leave before it makes you soft.
2012-10-07 03:12:22 PM
1 votes:

GodsTumor: Just another reason to get one of these...

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Yes it is.
Big Coal loves you long time.

/ownership is much less sociopathic
2012-10-07 03:09:51 PM
1 votes:
Start burning treehuggers at the stake. Problem solved.
2012-10-07 03:06:44 PM
1 votes:

onyxruby: Why can't we simply have one formula across the country and standardize on it? Get the EPA to approve a formula of blah and leave it at that. This kind of thing is entirely the kind of self wrought insanity that needs to end.


Cause down here in the South, we ain't lettin a bunch of West Coast Lieberals dictate how we can or can't polute our air.

/Freedom!
2012-10-07 03:05:19 PM
1 votes:
The price increases(beatings) will continue until morale(your crappy Partisan Attitude) improves.

/just a l'il message sent out to you drivers w/ opinions in CA
2012-10-07 02:58:31 PM
1 votes:
Why can't we simply have one formula across the country and standardize on it? Get the EPA to approve a formula of blah and leave it at that. This kind of thing is entirely the kind of self wrought insanity that needs to end.
2012-10-07 02:54:36 PM
1 votes:
Surprisingly, when you have the 9th largest economy in the world, you can affect production and distribution.
2012-10-07 02:49:54 PM
1 votes:

L.D. Ablo: This, along with other changes, dramatically improved the smog problem in LA.

As a kid, we had smog days at school where we weren't allowed out for PE or recess. You could see the smog hanging in the air. It was awful.

There's still a bit of smog, but it's much better today.


WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
2012-10-07 02:49:18 PM
1 votes:
Or we can be pragmatic and just switch to the winter blend a couple weeks sooner. I doubt that'll break the environment.
2012-10-07 02:09:19 PM
1 votes:
Well excuse us for breathing
2012-10-07 01:35:54 PM
1 votes:
this story gets printed twice a year.
WHY is this not the most boring REPEAT of all time???
 
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