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(The New York Times)   California requires their own special seasonal blends of gas that aren't the same as what the rest of the country uses, then complains about how high their gas prices are. Oh, and it doesn't help when the local refineries crap out   (nytimes.com) divider line 192
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2012-10-07 04:20:15 PM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: (with titanium trucks and semi-hards)


I have that problem too.
 
2012-10-07 04:21:54 PM

thursdaypostal: 12349876: Yes. Let's take that money per month. 1160 vs. 1760. Let's assume you're spending 1/3 your income on rent. So that's 385 and 585. I live in a pretty low cost of living area, and even there at 385 you're going to need a roommate/workingspouse or live in the ghetto. At 585, you can live by yourself in a decent safe area. HUGE DIFFERENCE

xl5150 argues just to argue. He does it in every damn thread. I don't think he agrees with a single person ever. Save your breath.


Kinda obvious troll with the whole $11/hr minimum wage thing.
 
2012-10-07 04:22:05 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: I don't think that's "awesome" you're hearing.


WHAT? I can't... I can't hear you! BRB, In-n-out run. On second though, BBL. The weather is really nice today. Think I'll go for a walk in the park after lunch.
 
2012-10-07 04:23:03 PM
thursdaypostal: xl5150 argues just to argue. He does it in every damn thread. I don't think he agrees with a single person ever. Save your breath.

I would readily agree with someone who says that you're a dumbass. Quick, somebody post it so that I can agree with you and we can prove him wrong quickly and severely.
 
2012-10-07 04:26:30 PM

snocone: wantingout: an it also doesn't help that it's an election year, and republicans own alot of the oil companies.

Are you saying they need a quick cash infusion to pay for their fantasy?
That's tin foil talk.


Nope, just making the derps gnash and wail about gas prices, blame it on Obama, and throw more votes to Romney. Typical partisan BS.
 
2012-10-07 04:29:10 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: I think it has something to do with our multiple climates and hilly areas


Would it really be that hard to come up with one blend that worked in urban ares and the rest? Economies of scale dictate that if your only making one thing your going to make it cheaply.

Establish a more environmentally friendly flavor for California and then standardize the nation on that one formula. Everyone wins with a more environmentally friendly blend and cheaper prices as your no longer beholden to artificial monopolies.
 
2012-10-07 04:29:31 PM

wildcardjack: I'm trying to separate my income from location so I can take the advice of Tom Waits, which is to spend some time in New York, but leave before it makes you hard, and some time in LA, but leave before it makes you soft.


After five years in LA I'm more jaded than I've ever been... the only way I've gotten "soft" is being spoiled by the weather. It's a tough city to live in.
 
2012-10-07 04:30:16 PM
Smog in LA is caused mostly by cars:
Link
 
2012-10-07 04:30:43 PM
TorqueToad: wildcardjack: I'm trying to separate my income from location so I can take the advice of Tom Waits, which is to spend some time in New York, but leave before it makes you hard, and some time in LA, but leave before it makes you soft.

After five years in LA I'm more jaded than I've ever been... the only way I've gotten "soft" is being spoiled by the weather. It's a tough city to live in.


Agreed. LA is a pretty hard city. I'd always heard that advice as being NY and San Francisco.
 
2012-10-07 04:31:03 PM
Gosh-damn to hell 'n gone! I was back in California in 71-72 when gas skyrocketed from 0.35/gal. to the unheard of 0.50 a gallon! I'll tell you right now we were outraged,outraged I say.The stations(no selfserve those days)that still had gas formed lines a half mile long for rationing.We went on cold weather training to the Mojave Desert in July. Years later I find out we were doing prelimenary exercises to invade Saudia Arabia and protect our oil rights.
So west coasters,grab your bootstraps and suck it up.You deserve it.
 
2012-10-07 04:33:49 PM

haineux: Smog in LA is caused mostly by cars:
Link


Ric Romero reporting...
 
2012-10-07 04:34:45 PM

12349876: xl5150: 12349876: On a weekly basis it's 290 vs. 440. That's a 50% difference. Think of how your life would be changed with a 50% pay raise. All of our lives would be changed drastically. Even Mitt Romney's.

My point is that there's not much difference between a pittance and a slightly larger pittance. An extra $150 a week? What can you really do with that? And that comes out to $7500 a year, which is less than I spent on our last weekend trip to Santa Barbara.

You're right, it is more. But my point, which is that it's not a significant amount of money, is also right. I mean, I could offer you a penny and then DOUBLE the offer. Wow! A 100% improvement! Would you be so excited about that too?

Yes. Let's take that money per month. 1160 vs. 1760. Let's assume you're spending 1/3 your income on rent. So that's 385 and 585. I live in a pretty low cost of living area, and even there at 385 you're going to need a roommate/workingspouse or live in the ghetto. At 585, you can live by yourself in a decent safe area. HUGE DIFFERENCE


Give it up. He is a known troll who likes to pose as an unsympathetic person of wealth with no concern for others
 
2012-10-07 04:35:15 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: Minimum: Pray 4 Mojo: This just in:

California sucks.

That is all.

Living in SoCal.

All I can say is:

This is news?

Our governor is nicknamed Moonbeam. The idiots in this state re elected him after he screwed things up in the 70's.
Looking to move out of here as soon as it is practical.

I dunno if it's news... I just like saying it.

/California sucks.


I can't disagree with you. Outside of my 12 year old and my 19 year old, I have yet to find another adult-like entity in this state.

/Six more years...unless I can get the ex to give up her weekends with the kid.
 
2012-10-07 04:38:54 PM

Honest Bender: Pray 4 Mojo: I don't think that's "awesome" you're hearing.

WHAT? I can't... I can't hear you! BRB, In-n-out run. On second though, BBL. The weather is really nice today. Think I'll go for a walk in the park after lunch.


Ha ha... you mean... after you drive to the park... you're going to walk around it... then drive back home?

In-N-Out is a fair point... but you do know that they exist outside of CA right?
 
2012-10-07 04:42:26 PM

iheartscotch: It doesn't help that there hasn't been a new refinery built in the us in at least 30 years; and there's a lot more demand for gas. Not only that; but many refineries have been closed for one reason or another.

This is what happens when oil companies yield to the will of the EPA. They see that the price of oil will go up as a consequence of the refinery closing.

Oil is at $89 per barrel; that's less than $2 a gallon. Add in taxes; processing and shipping and a gallon of gas costs anywhere from $2.50 - $2.90 to produce. In some cases; we pay $5 a gallon. Some of that is oil futures; but what is the rest? Pure profit.

/ I know there are other factors; but, most of the remainer is profiteering


Hot flash: Check your figures.

1. A market "barrel" of oil is 42 Gallons.
2. Fuel taxes in California are 69 cents/gal Plus 18.5 Federal excise, plus whatever city and local sales taxes are added. (Diesel tax is 79.5/gal + 24.4/gal + local sales)
3. How much do the extra "boutique" additives cost, as well as the extra production and special delivery facilities and costs required. Remember that the delivery trucks use diesel and have to pay the higher taxes... (They don't spring out of the ground for free, despite Socialist fantasies.)

Now, would you want to re-figure, or are you content with your lies?

 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-07 04:54:55 PM

steamingpile: L.D. Ablo: This, along with other changes, dramatically improved the smog problem in LA.

As a kid, we had smog days at school where we weren't allowed out for PE or recess. You could see the smog hanging in the air. It was awful.

There's still a bit of smog, but it's much better today.

Did you ever stop to think that it may be due to factories being cleaner and nothing to do with car emissions? I know what has been preached to you for over two decades but they could be wrong.


The scientists who actually track and measure the pollution are wrong based on what? Because you say so?
 
2012-10-07 04:56:21 PM

xl5150: 12349876: You don't know how the other half lives.

Sure I do. The summer after 11th grade my dad made me get a job for the entire summer to show me what it's like to have to work for a living. I had to spend 3 days a week working for $11 an hour (this was the mid 90s, so it was minimum wage back then). It taught me a valuable lesson about the working man, so I resent the remark that I don't know how the other half lives.

12349876: I'm in the gas station convenience store from time to time because the big stores don't sell Mountain Dew Throwback, and you'd be surprised how many people are getting gas. One guy the other day used a roll of nickels and a few high value coins to get 5 bucks of gas

Then it's on them to work and make themselves marketable so that they can demand more for their services. I don't feel bad for anyone who sits around moaning about their situation and doesn't do anything to improve it.


...$11 an hour (this was the mid 90s, so it was minimum wage back then)

When was mininum wage EVER $11 an hour???

that is all
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-07 04:58:42 PM

meintx2001: redlegrick: At the risk of sounding like a no-good, tree-hugging, liberal communist socialist, I can kinda see why California wants to go with electric cars. It's constant and consistent irregardless of the other energy sources used to generate it.

Except for when they hit rollIng brown and black outs. Just wait until the price of electricity jumps up as usage goes up. Like any other fuel, it's price can change.


Even though the rolling blackouts were caused by a price fixing scheme by private power generators and electricity isn't generated using with oil.
 
2012-10-07 05:00:50 PM

xl5150: 12349876: You don't know how the other half lives.

Sure I do. The summer after 11th grade my dad made me get a job for the entire summer to show me what it's like to have to work for a living. I had to spend 3 days a week working for $11 an hour (this was the mid 90s, so it was minimum wage back then). It taught me a valuable lesson about the working man, so I resent the remark that I don't know how the other half lives.



No, you don't.

$11 isn't minimum wage now and it sure wasn't back when you were in 11th grade. And you worked 3 days a week? Wow, what a sacrifice.

You're profile says Beverly Hills, it says you've never left CA, and you went to USC. So based on my powers of deduction I'm going out on a limb and say you've had every single opportunity left at your feet by your rich daddy, you probably didn't pay a dime of your own money for your education, and you were hired at a law firm owned by your daddy or one of his friends. You've spent your entire life with other entitled morons in your Beverly Hills bubble and you probably have $100s in parking tickets in a given week yet you try to haggle with cashiers at supermarkets (Whole Foods or Gelsen's)

Assuming you're not a troll you are an incredibly sheltered individual who has ZERO idea "how the other half lives."
 
2012-10-07 05:00:54 PM

onyxruby: drjekel_mrhyde: I think it has something to do with our multiple climates and hilly areas

Would it really be that hard to come up with one blend that worked in urban ares and the rest? Economies of scale dictate that if your only making one thing your going to make it cheaply.

Establish a more environmentally friendly flavor for California and then standardize the nation on that one formula. Everyone wins with a more environmentally friendly blend and cheaper prices as your no longer beholden to artificial monopolies.


STOP

MAKING

SENSE
 
2012-10-07 05:05:06 PM

daxxenos: iheartscotch: It doesn't help that there hasn't been a new refinery built in the us in at least 30 years; and there's a lot more demand for gas. Not only that; but many refineries have been closed for one reason or another.

This is what happens when oil companies yield to the will of the EPA. They see that the price of oil will go up as a consequence of the refinery closing.

Oil is at $89 per barrel; that's less than $2 a gallon. Add in taxes; processing and shipping and a gallon of gas costs anywhere from $2.50 - $2.90 to produce. In some cases; we pay $5 a gallon. Some of that is oil futures; but what is the rest? Pure profit.

/ I know there are other factors; but, most of the remainer is profiteering

Hot flash: Check your figures.1. A market "barrel" of oil is 42 Gallons.
2. Fuel taxes in California are 69 cents/gal Plus 18.5 Federal excise, plus whatever city and local sales taxes are added. (Diesel tax is 79.5/gal + 24.4/gal + local sales)
3. How much do the extra "boutique" additives cost, as well as the extra production and special delivery facilities and costs required. Remember that the delivery trucks use diesel and have to pay the higher taxes... (They don't spring out of the ground for free, despite Socialist fantasies.)Now, would you want to re-figure, or are you content with your lies?


Quite content; did you miss the part where I came up with California's production stats?

Well; here it is again,
http://www.era.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_cap1_dcu_sca_a.htm

In essence; California has been stripping itself of refineries and refining capacity. In 2007; California had 21 refineries producing 2,037,188 barrels per day. In 2012 California has 18 refineries, with 2 idle; producing 1,955,971 barrels per day.

That's a difference of 81 thousand barrels a day; which works out to well over 3 million gallons of crude oil not being processed per day.

/ I was using the wrong barrel; 50 gallons; but me thinks I may have found the culprit for gas prices
 
2012-10-07 05:08:25 PM

APE992: The rest of the country is just mad they're:

1)In a drought
2)Facing hurricanes
3)Facing tornadoes
4)Detroit

I'll just drive less.

/difficulty: I live 15 minutes from my Uni campus
//2 hours from Sacramento



We also have a small commute, so we only need to fill up our one car just once a month.

Gas could triple in price and we wouldn't flinch.
 
2012-10-07 05:08:26 PM

Minimum: Pray 4 Mojo: This just in:

California sucks.

That is all.

Living in SoCal.

All I can say is:

This is news?

Our governor is nicknamed Moonbeam. The idiots in this state re elected him after he screwed things up in the 70's.
Looking to move out of here as soon as it is practical.


As someone who escaped in '99, I'm rooting for you.

/GET OUT
 
2012-10-07 05:10:18 PM

APE992: The rest of the country is just mad they're:

1)In a drought
2)Facing hurricanes
3)Facing tornadoes
4)Detroit

I'll just drive less.

/difficulty: I live 15 minutes from my Uni campus
//2 hours from Sacramento


That's ok, we won't let you use our water anymore. Enjoy your dehydration
 
2012-10-07 05:13:04 PM

phamwaa: Minimum: Pray 4 Mojo: This just in:

California sucks.

That is all.

Living in SoCal.

All I can say is:

This is news?

Our governor is nicknamed Moonbeam. The idiots in this state re elected him after he screwed things up in the 70's.
Looking to move out of here as soon as it is practical.

As someone who escaped in '99, I'm rooting for you.

/GET OUT


Well bye.
 
2012-10-07 05:26:41 PM
wait until we label monsanto out of our state this election

then wait for us to complain about how expensive non gmo food is
 
2012-10-07 05:29:28 PM

jasnotron: snocone: GodsTumor: Just another reason to get one of these...

[imageshack.us image 276x183]

Yes it is.
Big Coal loves you long time.

/ownership is much less sociopathic

So much this ^. I still don't get how people think electric cars are the answer. Where the f#$* do you think electricity comes from ? Oh yeah that's right Californians don't care because they won't allow new power generation facilities to be built in their state but will import the hell out of PNW hydropower and drive up our prices.


It should be coming from solar, wind ...other green energy's.
Germany produces nearly half of it's energy from solar and Germany is not a sunny country.
Oh yeah, we can't invest in green technology, we have to bow down to the oil companies. 
Germany solar
 
2012-10-07 05:32:59 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: I just bought one of these:

[images.dealerrevs.com image 480x360]

$150 doesn't even fill it up and it gets about 13mpg.

Love it.


I have one of those in black. Here's a pic:

www.adonisleathercrafters.com
 
2012-10-07 05:33:36 PM

Minimum:
Our governor is nicknamed Moonbeam. The idiots in this state re elected him after he screwed things up in the 70's.
Looking to move out of here as soon as it is practical.


What exactly did he screw up? Because Meg Whitman who just ran against him -- and lost -- PRAISED the standard of living he provided through his policies had under his prior terms as governor.

Whitman: "Why I came to California"
 
2012-10-07 05:36:07 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: Honest Bender: Pray 4 Mojo: I don't think that's "awesome" you're hearing.

WHAT? I can't... I can't hear you! BRB, In-n-out run. On second though, BBL. The weather is really nice today. Think I'll go for a walk in the park after lunch.

Ha ha... you mean... after you drive to the park... you're going to walk around it... then drive back home?

In-N-Out is a fair point... but you do know that they exist outside of CA right?


No. I mean walk. There's an In-n-out near me. Also a park. California!!! Perfect weather today.
 
2012-10-07 05:39:06 PM
I say we just give everything south of sacramento back to mexico...
 
2012-10-07 05:44:18 PM

Minimum: Our governor is nicknamed Moonbeam. The idiots in this state re elected him after he screwed things up in the 70's.
Looking to move out of here as soon as it is practical.


Actually the idiots were the ones who elected Nut Meg to run against him!

In California the Republicans seem to want to be regulated to third party status as evidenced by the Nuts they pick to run! If they had a brain we would have a Republican Gov. named Poizner right know!
 
2012-10-07 05:48:04 PM

iheartscotch: In essence; California has been stripping itself of refineries and refining capacity. In 2007; California had 21 refineries producing 2,037,188 barrels per day. In 2012 California has 18 refineries, with 2 idle; producing 1,955,971 barrels per day.

That's a difference of 81 thousand barrels a day; which works out to well over 3 million gallons of crude oil not being processed per day.

/ I was using the wrong barrel; 50 gallons; but me thinks I may have found the culprit for gas prices


So tell me how the Fact that California EXPORTS to other states 10-25% of the gas produced affects your theory on this?
 
2012-10-07 05:54:50 PM
It cracks me up how people hate on California, I think it is mostly jealousy.
 
2012-10-07 05:56:59 PM
Here is the real problem

The Refineries are not properly maintained resulting in things like explosions

Many of the refineries actually schedule inspections to find shut down maintenance right before a holiday weekend when demand will drive up wholesale prices

The Refineries will also increase the amount of fuel that is not CA blend -which decreases the production of CA blend- to allow export to other states while ignoring the increase demand in CA

You also have Station owners that are raising their prices 3 or 4 times in a day even though they have not received any fuel at the higher wholesale price.
 
2012-10-07 06:05:26 PM

Azlefty: iheartscotch: In essence; California has been stripping itself of refineries and refining capacity. In 2007; California had 21 refineries producing 2,037,188 barrels per day. In 2012 California has 18 refineries, with 2 idle; producing 1,955,971 barrels per day.

That's a difference of 81 thousand barrels a day; which works out to well over 3 million gallons of crude oil not being processed per day.

/ I was using the wrong barrel; 50 gallons; but me thinks I may have found the culprit for gas prices

So tell me how the Fact that California EXPORTS to other states 10-25% of the gas produced affects your theory on this?


They take 10-25% of the gasoline they produce and ship it elsewhere? You'd think, by definition; that gasoline is no longer in the California market.

Ok; California produces approximately 228 thousand barrels of gas per day (http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pnp_cap1_dcu_sca_a.htm). You said 10% to 25% is exported. 10%-25% of that is approximately 22 thousand - 57 thousand barrels a day; leaving California with 206 thousand - 171 thousand barrels a day. You're right; I don't see how that would decrease the supply of gasoline in California at all.

But, I digress; I know 81 thousand barrels doesn't sound like much; but other things get made out of crude besides gasoline. Shrinking the supply of crude oil processed increases the price of all related products; I don't know if you missed that day in macro economics, but I didn't.

/ shrink supply = higher price
 
2012-10-07 06:09:05 PM

FizixJunkee: Pray 4 Mojo: I just bought one of these:

[images.dealerrevs.com image 480x360]

$150 doesn't even fill it up and it gets about 13mpg.

Love it.

I have one of those in black. Here's a pic:

[www.adonisleathercrafters.com image 228x228]


What is the towing capacity of yours?
 
2012-10-07 06:11:48 PM
How ironic that a regulation designed by Tree Huggers ends up as profit for oil companies.
 
2012-10-07 06:26:43 PM

HempHead: Mithiwithi: Minimum: The idiots in this state re elected him after he screwed things up kept Prop 13 from totally screwing things up in the 70's.

What exactly did Jerry Brown screw up in the 70's, anyway?

Ahhhh, yes, Prop 13, allowing Warren Buffet to only pay $300/yr in property taxes for his mansion in Laguna Beach while the state goes broke. 

[www.instablogsimages.com image 585x389]


You realize that Prop 13 helps the non-wealthy far more than the wealthy, right? If Buffet had to pay $300,000/year in property tax on his mansion, he wouldn't even notice. If my grandpa had to pay "adjusted" taxes on his property/home that he bought/built in the early 60s, it would have consumed about 50% of his combined pension and social security income at the peak of the market. Just because he happened to build his house in an area that became very popular after he arrived and helped build it up. How on earth would that have been fair?

If you want people to put down roots and build a community, you can't punish them for creating a community where other people want to live. The increased property values and increased tax base are a direct result of the people who arrived first who created a desirable environment.
 
2012-10-07 06:28:55 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-07 06:35:29 PM

jtown: HempHead: Mithiwithi: Minimum: The idiots in this state re elected him after he screwed things up kept Prop 13 from totally screwing things up in the 70's.

What exactly did Jerry Brown screw up in the 70's, anyway?

Ahhhh, yes, Prop 13, allowing Warren Buffet to only pay $300/yr in property taxes for his mansion in Laguna Beach while the state goes broke. 

[www.instablogsimages.com image 585x389]

You realize that Prop 13 helps the non-wealthy far more than the wealthy, right? If Buffet had to pay $300,000/year in property tax on his mansion, he wouldn't even notice. If my grandpa had to pay "adjusted" taxes on his property/home that he bought/built in the early 60s, it would have consumed about 50% of his combined pension and social security income at the peak of the market. Just because he happened to build his house in an area that became very popular after he arrived and helped build it up. How on earth would that have been fair?

If you want people to put down roots and build a community, you can't punish them for creating a community where other people want to live. The increased property values and increased tax base are a direct result of the people who arrived first who created a desirable environment.


Except they extended it to commercial property owned by non-human corporate entities. Yes, it helped out seniors and other fixed income folks immensely, but the unintended side effects have screwed over almost everyone else. There's a reason many towns refuse to zone for housing, which causes scarcity, which raises prices up the wazoo...
 
2012-10-07 06:49:29 PM
Oh my God, I am paying $10 more a week for gas, I am going to go broke!

/sarcasm
 
2012-10-07 06:57:26 PM

L.D. Ablo: This, along with other changes, dramatically improved the smog problem in LA.

As a kid, we had smog days at school where we weren't allowed out for PE or recess. You could see the smog hanging in the air. It was awful.

There's still a bit of smog, but it's much better today.



I couldnt believe it when an old coworker told me the Valley used to be drenched in smog. I figured if anything, we had it much worse today, but it turns out its not the case. Hell, you can see tankers floating around out in the ocean from some of the smaller peaks around Mt Baldy on windy days nowadays. The old coworker couldnt believe that.
 
2012-10-07 07:10:19 PM

steamingpile: APE992: The rest of the country is just mad they're:

1)In a drought
2)Facing hurricanes
3)Facing tornadoes
4)Detroit

I'll just drive less.

/difficulty: I live 15 minutes from my Uni campus
//2 hours from Sacramento

No no, no and no.

Glad I don't live out there, nice to visit but wouldn't want to live there, prices are too high and outside if San Fran doesn't have much to offer in arts.

I would move to Europe first.


Maybe that's a dig at L.A. . . but you forgot L.A.
 
2012-10-07 07:13:22 PM
imageshack.us
 
2012-10-07 07:14:11 PM

badLogic: It cracks me up how people hate on California, I think it is mostly jealousy.


No, it is the batshiat insanery of your politicians and the fact you have 30 million+ people living in a desert draining water from watersheds of other states.
 
2012-10-07 07:17:01 PM

D_Evans45: L.D. Ablo: This, along with other changes, dramatically improved the smog problem in LA.

As a kid, we had smog days at school where we weren't allowed out for PE or recess. You could see the smog hanging in the air. It was awful.

There's still a bit of smog, but it's much better today.


I couldnt believe it when an old coworker told me the Valley used to be drenched in smog. I figured if anything, we had it much worse today, but it turns out its not the case. Hell, you can see tankers floating around out in the ocean from some of the smaller peaks around Mt Baldy on windy days nowadays. The old coworker couldnt believe that.


Smog was so bad in the 80s and before that you could feel, taste and smell it. It was like a heavy fog but dirtier. The good old days when we had PE in the cafeteria and the occasional visit from the EMT since some kid or two had an asthma attack. Good times.
 
2012-10-07 07:52:40 PM

xl5150: An extra $150 a week? What can you really do with that?


$150/week is about $7.500/yr.

Thats a trip to Oktoberfest for 4 days with about $4000 leftover. If you dont want yours, can I has?
 
2012-10-07 07:56:06 PM
o5iiawah: $150/week is about $7.500/yr.

Thats a trip to Oktoberfest for 4 days with about $4000 leftover. If you dont want yours, can I has?



I don't think anyone making $7-something an hour will be taking any trips to Oktoberfest. That was precisely my point. For people who make plenty of money, that extra $150 a week is discretionary. For people who are low-wage earners, it's not going to raise them above the level they currently are.
 
2012-10-07 08:08:09 PM

xl5150: o5iiawah: $150/week is about $7.500/yr.

Thats a trip to Oktoberfest for 4 days with about $4000 leftover. If you dont want yours, can I has?


I don't think anyone making $7-something an hour will be taking any trips to Oktoberfest. That was precisely my point. For people who make plenty of money, that extra $150 a week is discretionary. For people who are low-wage earners, it's not going to raise them above the level they currently are.


That's what I tell the poor people that work for me when they ask for more money. I swear I have to explain it to them like children. "A buck or two an hour for you is not really going to make any difference... but if I keep it all... that's a few grand a week I get to keep! Seriously, what's more important... that you guys get to have a fast food dinner an extra night a week... or that I get the upgraded bathroom fixtures on my yacht?"

Farking poor people... they're so selfish... and they're farking kids are already too fat.
 
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