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2012-10-07 12:18:37 PM
11 votes:

GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.


I have been addicted to tobacco, opiates, and alcohol at various points in my life. From those experiences, I can assure you that pot is no more addictive than good ice cream.
2012-10-07 11:44:16 AM
10 votes:

CreamFilling: It was at that point I realized something doesn't have to have a neurochemical or physiological basis to be an addiction.


We're ALL addicts, and we're ALL addicted to the same thing:

www.thefix.com
2012-10-07 11:54:38 AM
9 votes:
Huh? How do you quit smoking pot? Here's a hint: PUT DOWN THE FRIGGING BONG.

You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

/Friggin newbs.
2012-10-07 02:01:45 PM
7 votes:

GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.


I smoke pot on a near daily basis, and I have for decades. However, whenever I travel (and I travel a lot), I don't bring weed with me. So I will go from daily intake to anywhere from a few days to several weeks weed-free; cold turkey.

When I do, other than missing it a bit (especially if I'm on vacation), I don't have any symptoms of what could reasonably be termed withdrawal. Not the least bit of anxiety or distress. I just stop and go on with life, and when I return I am no worse for wear.

If that is addiction, addicts are pussies.
2012-10-07 12:45:49 PM
5 votes:
Another article brought to you by the tobacco industry.
2012-10-07 12:21:35 PM
5 votes:

logistic: I was being sarcastic.


Never admit to a troll as beautiful as that.
2012-10-07 04:32:39 PM
4 votes:
QUitting tobacco was hard. Quitting pot was as easy as waking up the next morning.
2012-10-07 12:19:11 PM
4 votes:
I used to smoke cigarettes; quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
I used to smoke a lot of marijuana (2-3 oz/week) then I took a job where random drug tests were a possibility; I stopped smoking with no side effects.
2012-10-07 05:34:56 PM
3 votes:
I've been a daily toker for 20 years. Few tips to avoid being a burnout:

1) Only wake-n-bake on Sundays.
2) Once a year take a few weeks off to remind yourself you're a lazy-ass with or without weed.
3) Don't take it on vacation (unless you're camping).
4) If you smoke in moderation, you'll double your enjoyment of it.
5) If you want to quit, don't turn it into a huge f*cking deal, just put the bong down.
2012-10-07 05:07:45 PM
3 votes:

Truncks1: It is really easy to quit smoking weed. Its not anything close to nicotine. And I was just as unproductive before and after. Its all insane bullshiat.


I remember quitting and thinking "oh I'm going to be so much more productive now and be able to remember things better" and then finding I'm just lazy and still can't remember shiat.
2012-10-07 04:29:02 PM
3 votes:
Having just smoked a big fattie, that cold turkey is sounding pretty damned good right about now...
2012-10-07 03:19:14 PM
3 votes:
Normally this is the time upon which I would make the joke about being able to do the quitting any time which is desired by me but something I have smoked recently has made me the paranoid person and so I am scared someone is reading the thread and trying to do the using of this against me. Cheetos, anyone?
2012-10-07 01:59:57 PM
3 votes:
Assholemitter is trying to be cute; the article states the opposite. The advice given is good advice and the article is insightful about cannabis addiction. I've always felt that one of the most insidious things about pot is that you can do it all of the time and it won't send you to the gutter; it's relative harmlessness is what makes it especially sneaky, because if you overdo it, there are downsides that are rather slippery and difficult to pin down.

I lurves me weed, and the best way I've found to deal with this is to not seek it out. If it finds me, great; but gone are the days where I always had to have it and smoked it daily. If it ever becomes legal, I will have to drum up some willpower to avoid doing it all of the time... but that's a problem I'd love to have.
2012-10-07 11:41:13 AM
3 votes:

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.


Oh, that's nothing compared to the patients with gambling addictions. It was at that point I realized something doesn't have to have a neurochemical or physiological basis to be an addiction.
2012-10-07 11:37:29 AM
3 votes:
I don't believe this. At all.
2012-10-07 06:03:28 PM
2 votes:

dpzum1: AND, Alcohol is the only drug which can KILL DURING DETOX.

My family has 4 nurses and a Doctor, I KNOW WHAT THE F I'M TALKING ABOUT.


And......you would be wrong.
2012-10-07 04:38:38 PM
2 votes:

Weaver95: That said, for some people, marijuana is a wickedly difficult master. Ironically, its (relatively) low cost and the lack of obvious severe negative consequences from frequent use make spotting problems and changing behavior more difficult:

this statement makes little sense.


I thought it makes a lot of sense, especially if you read what follows:

FTA: "If a drug is just making you a bit less productive, a bit less present for your loved ones and a bit less happy, you are likely less motivated to kick the habit as you would be if you were losing jobs, homes and relationships as a result of getting high. What makes marijuana less harmful can also make it harder to kick, basically. Because like, Why bother, right?"

Speaking as a daily toker, I thought this was a pretty good article.
2012-10-07 04:31:29 PM
2 votes:
I call bullshiat on this one. I have known scores of alcoholics, and maybe more than a hundred nicotine addicts in my life, and only one maryjane addict. I also know there are clinical studies showing this not to be the case, but I'm too lazy to look this up.
2012-10-07 04:30:46 PM
2 votes:

Krymson Tyde: eurotrader: Krymson Tyde: I used to smoke cigarettes; quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
I used to smoke a lot of marijuana (2-3 oz/week) then I took a job where random drug tests were a possibility; I stopped smoking with no side effects.

Cheap ditch weed 2-3 oz a week or over sharing? I have met a few people that smoke a lot of weed and if that was decent quality you would have interesting body chemistry or you never left the sofa except for snacks

In fairness it was a team effort with a friend, but I held a full time job at the time. Smoking was evenings and weekends. All evening and all weekend.
If I was at home I was vegetating.


I never really got the lazy thing. I routinely do laundry, cook, clean etc. while baked. Never "work work" as that entails a higher level of mental acuity, but any repetitive task is much more enjoyable that way.

///No power tools though.
2012-10-07 03:00:26 PM
2 votes:
Just a small fraction of marijuana users ever try any drug beyond alcohol and cigarettes.

Meh, don't believe that at all. Maybe they don't all go on to become heroin addicts, but I do believe many of them will take one of their friend's xanax, vicodin or adderall here or there.
2012-10-07 01:29:38 PM
2 votes:
As someone who has quit all three, no, no it's not.
2012-10-07 12:27:09 PM
2 votes:

NewportBarGuy: Marcus Aurelius: I'm pretty sure that not smoking doesn't cause bronchitis :)

I'll concur with the SundaesChild. Both times I quit for significant periods I wound up with pneumonia or bronchitis. You get over it and can breathe easier afterwards, but for some people (I'm assuming 1+ pack-per-day smokers) this is an issue. You also begin to taste food again as the cilia in your throat regenerates, and you get a nice deep voice.

Maybe that was just puberty?


I used pot to quit smoking cigarettes. Maybe that's why I didn't get the same lung issues.
2012-10-07 11:40:37 PM
1 votes:
I quit pot cold turkey with no problems whatsoever after smoking every day for nearly a decade. So the headline is bullshiat. That is all.
2012-10-07 10:09:34 PM
1 votes:
I've got the Monday regret happening right now, after a very unproductive weekend. I'm thinking I need to dial it back a bit this week. Don't want to go back to the bad old days...
2012-10-07 08:29:02 PM
1 votes:

cepson: As addictive as nicotine and alcohol? Then we should make it as illegal as nicotine and alcohol.


THIS
2012-10-07 08:22:30 PM
1 votes:
As addictive as nicotine and alcohol? Then we should make it as illegal as nicotine and alcohol.
2012-10-07 07:53:04 PM
1 votes:
Based on my college experience, being broke is a great way to break your pot habit.
2012-10-07 06:06:22 PM
1 votes:

Espertron: I'm surprised this hasn't turned into some pot-snob thread


The night is young.
2012-10-07 05:59:14 PM
1 votes:
I'm surprised this hasn't turned into some pot-snob thread like beer, spirits, cooking, photography, cars, computers, etc... ad nauseum... on FARK.

FARKER #1: I prefer Northern Lights. It has a nice, nutty flavor and gives me the perfect mellow.

FARKER #2: Northern Lights is teh ghey! Maui Wowie is the real dank stuff.

FARKER #1: You are being a troll.

FARKER #2: Anyone who says they like Northern Lights deserves to be trolled.

(eventually, FARKER #3 enters will describe to tedious detail how they homegrow and if you don't, you're supporting crime, smoking inferior weed, and are a general douchebag waste of flesh to society)
2012-10-07 05:57:48 PM
1 votes:

NewportBarGuy: logistic: I was being sarcastic.

Never admit to a troll as beautiful as that.


Agreed. Best troll in friggin' years. A+
2012-10-07 05:46:45 PM
1 votes:
pot is fun
2012-10-07 05:39:06 PM
1 votes:
WRONG.
Marijuana is NOT PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE. NEVER BEEN A CASE OF OVERDOSE LEADING TO DEATH.
Nicotine, however is 50 times more addictive than heroine.
I quit weed about two years ago. COLD TURKEYI have yet been able to quit cigarettes.
Who ever says any different should provide SCIENTIFIC proof, or STFU.

I'm not advocating doing any drugs, in fact I gave up all but cigarettes, but I do believe in getting the CORRECT INFORMATION, and not misleading the public with the premise that "It's for your own good".
I'm SICK AND F*$@ING TIRED OF PEOPLE LYING TO ME AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT SUBJECTS SUCH AS THIS. I DO NOT NEED YOU HOLDING MY HAND, DIRECTING MY EVERY MOVE, TREATING ME AS A CHILD.

Give me facts, I'll decide for myself.
2012-10-07 05:21:55 PM
1 votes:

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.


I know, I once knew a girl who had a sister who had a cousin who had a another cousin who was lazy who had a friend who never cleaned his house and went to church where his brother knew the same guy who's cousin had a father that was a mechanic heard a story about a customer who's brother had a niece who knew a college friend who vomitted his intestine out from with drawal. True story, for real.
2012-10-07 05:15:38 PM
1 votes:

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: Truncks1: It is really easy to quit smoking weed. Its not anything close to nicotine. And I was just as unproductive before and after. Its all insane bullshiat.

I remember quitting and thinking "oh I'm going to be so much more productive now and be able to remember things better" and then finding I'm just lazy and still can't remember shiat.


I think people start to think that they were a different person before they started or something, hearing all this crap about what it does to you and start to think "omg, i was totally productive before and i could remember clearly everything that ever happened!" and then they quit for some reason or another and realize that they were never superman, they used to forget stuff before they even started too, and continue procrastinating by doing some else instead of smoking. People need to stop blaming all their problems on weed when its really themselves.
2012-10-07 05:01:59 PM
1 votes:
Pot isn't addictive. Being high and therefore not sober, is. It's similar to gambling addiction, shopping addiction, gaming addiction, sex addiction, eating disorder addiction, basically any behavior that you use to avoid feeling and can't stop.

So in that sense, pot addiction can be very hard to quit. Not that if you were locked in a room with no weed you'd be at physical risk of severe withdrawl symptoms. Just that after not feeling real sober emotions for so long, being forced to finally feel them would suck mightily. And since pot is cheap, easy to get, and the most socially acceptable of the illegal drugs, why bother?

If you're the type who smokes almost daily but then easily stops for periods of sobriety, you're probably not using pot in the same way as the guy who uses it to avoid painful emotions. Congrats, you are a recreational user and not addicted. Toke on, man, toke on.

If otoh you can't stop smoking pot, try a good shrink.
2012-10-07 04:56:11 PM
1 votes:

muddythinker: The Fark headline is misleading. Even the author says:


I've noticed there's been quite a bit of this lately on fark. And then no one ever reads the article before getting indignant. I don't think it really matters what the article says any more. I think the trick to a fark greenlight these days is simply fabricate a provocative headline completely out of thin air that you know will get farkers to start getting spittle flecks on their monitors, and link it to a randomly chosen article about petunia gardening or grandma's lemon meringue recipe.
2012-10-07 04:49:04 PM
1 votes:

orbister: give me doughnuts: QUitting tobacco was hard. Quitting pot was as easy as waking up the next morning.

So you were addicted to tobacco but not to pot,


That's because pot isn't really addictive.
2012-10-07 04:33:12 PM
1 votes:
PainInTheASP: I have been addicted to tobacco, opiates, and alcohol at various points in my life. From those experiences, I can assure you that pot is no more addictive than good ice cream.

Same here.

It it's psychologically addictive for sure, but physically, I say no. I've quit several times in my life for various reasons and I had no problem at all, even when I was a chronic smoker.
2012-10-07 04:31:21 PM
1 votes:

iaazathot: Oh for farks sake...

All my adult friends have successfully stopped smoking weed. Not all of them have been successful with cigs. Most have been successful at giving up alcohol if necessary.

My wife works with special populations that are very likely to be using drugs and alcohol heavily. Pot, not a problem to kick, alchohol is very difficult, meth is practically impossible according to her data (which she does keep). Heroine is almost as tough as meth, and cocaine is harder than alcohol but less difficult than meth and heroine.

Is it that time of the year for false information about marijuana again?


By "heroine", do you mean Wonder Woman or Invisible Woman?
2012-10-07 04:29:13 PM
1 votes:
What is this? Salon taking a day off and posting squishy stories from the slush pile? Nevermind.
2012-10-07 04:22:40 PM
1 votes:

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.


No you didn't. Stop helping the lying people lie.
2012-10-07 03:37:09 PM
1 votes:

Krymson Tyde: I used to smoke cigarettes; quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
I used to smoke a lot of marijuana (2-3 oz/week) then I took a job where random drug tests were a possibility; I stopped smoking with no side effects.


That must have been truly lousy weed. I'm an almost daily smoker, and a quarter lasts me months. But with BC Bud- just a dab'l do ya.

FloydA: I remember being addicted.

It was as though all the lights were on, but nobody was home. I felt as though someone else was controlling my mind; it didn't belong to me any more. The sweating and shaking were nearly constant reminders. I was unable to eat or sleep and breathing was difficult due to a tightness in my throat. I was deeply into it. I kept telling myself that I had built up an immunity, and I really wanted to believe that, but it would be more accurate to say that I constantly wanted more. I could see all of the classic signs, but it was as though I had lost the ability to read. I started having heart palpitations, and I seemed to be moving at a different speed from everyone else. I couldn't be saved, and I longed for oblivion. As long as there was any left, I would be happy to take it. Like I said, I wanted to believe that I was immune to the stuff, oh yeah, but in the end I finally had to face it. Also, for some reason, there were a bunch of women wearing too much makeup and playing guitars.


Nicely played, Floyd.

www.google.ca
2012-10-07 03:18:17 PM
1 votes:
thecriticalcritics.com

bob saget would like a word with the author

/boo this woman
2012-10-07 02:56:38 PM
1 votes:
I remember being addicted.

It was as though all the lights were on, but nobody was home. I felt as though someone else was controlling my mind; it didn't belong to me any more. The sweating and shaking were nearly constant reminders. I was unable to eat or sleep and breathing was difficult due to a tightness in my throat. I was deeply into it. I kept telling myself that I had built up an immunity, and I really wanted to believe that, but it would be more accurate to say that I constantly wanted more. I could see all of the classic signs, but it was as though I had lost the ability to read. I started having heart palpitations, and I seemed to be moving at a different speed from everyone else. I couldn't be saved, and I longed for oblivion. As long as there was any left, I would be happy to take it. Like I said, I wanted to believe that I was immune to the stuff, oh yeah, but in the end I finally had to face it. Also, for some reason, there were a bunch of women wearing too much makeup and playing guitars.
2012-10-07 02:50:21 PM
1 votes:

gilgigamesh: GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.

I smoke pot on a near daily basis, and I have for decades. However, whenever I travel (and I travel a lot), I don't bring weed with me. So I will go from daily intake to anywhere from a few days to several weeks weed-free; cold turkey.

When I do, other than missing it a bit (especially if I'm on vacation), I don't have any symptoms of what could reasonably be termed withdrawal. Not the least bit of anxiety or distress. I just stop and go on with life, and when I return I am no worse for wear.

If that is addiction, addicts are pussies.


After a few days of smoking my tolerance goes down pretty quickly. So I get a lot higher off less weed. Nice bonus is I spend a lot less on it. If I smoke everyday like I did when I was younger I get to a point where I'm not getting much out of it.
2012-10-07 01:44:11 PM
1 votes:
apparently, if you are using Firefox, you have to turn off Adblock to read the full article.
2012-10-07 12:29:38 PM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: I used pot to quit smoking cigarettes. Maybe that's why I didn't get the same lung issues.


My friends that have done that report the same success. They went from one to the other, then just cut way back and eventually stopped. Some still smoke for recreation, but the others haven't smoked anything in a few years.

That evil weed. Horrible stuff. If you're on the executive board of Phillip Morris USA (not international).
2012-10-07 12:26:40 PM
1 votes:
I doubt it is much more addictive than chapstick, and it is probably easier to quit than SNRI's or benzos.
2012-10-07 12:26:19 PM
1 votes:
I do know people who have had difficulty stopping smoking pot, but that wasn't because of any physical withdrawal symptoms.
2012-10-07 12:22:53 PM
1 votes:
I quit smoking both pot and cigarettes cold turkey

/no deaths and only a few minor injuries were reported
2012-10-07 12:16:06 PM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Quitting smoking tobacco is easy. I used to do it every Monday for nearly 20 years.


I quit smoking Halloween 2009. Other than a 3 month case of bronchitis about 3 weeks after quitting, no problem. I quit smoking pot on a regular basis about 10 years earlier, no problem. Also no bronchitis.

I still drink at least weekly, but that's still socially acceptable, yes?
2012-10-07 12:12:09 PM
1 votes:
Quitting smoking tobacco is easy. I used to do it every Monday for nearly 20 years.
2012-10-07 11:51:40 AM
1 votes:
I was being sarcastic.
2012-10-07 11:36:45 AM
1 votes:
Uh... no, it...

/oh, FFS...
 
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