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2012-10-07 06:20:26 PM
I have smoked weed for about 20 years now, with intermittent periods of quitting cold turkey for a job or school. You just quit. It's not hard at all.

I've never smoked cigarettes, so I can't speak to what it is like to quit that, but if it is no different than quitting weed....man, those people with the patches and gum are some weak willed SOBs.
 
2012-10-07 06:21:54 PM
, treatment for cannabis problems is remarkably under-researched. Partly that's because weed genuinely is less addictive than alcohol, heroin, methamphetamine or cocaine.

Three sentences into the main article. And nicotine isn't even mentioned.

Fail rating: 8/10
 
2012-10-07 06:22:45 PM

Lord Dimwit: It may not be addictive physically, but I've known plenty of people who would rather smoke pot than get a job, do something active with their friends, or, you know, do anything at all.


I don't think it's the pot.
 
2012-10-07 06:30:38 PM

REO-Weedwagon: I've been a daily toker for 20 years. Few tips to avoid being a burnout:

1) Only wake-n-bake on Sundays.
2) Once a year take a few weeks off to remind yourself you're a lazy-ass with or without weed.
3) Don't take it on vacation (unless you're camping).
4) If you smoke in moderation, you'll double your enjoyment of it.
5) If you want to quit, don't turn it into a huge f*cking deal, just put the bong down.


I can concur with all this advice. Too many will forget about step 2. Step 2 is very important.
 
2012-10-07 06:32:59 PM

dpzum1: WRONG.
Marijuana is NOT PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE. NEVER BEEN A CASE OF OVERDOSE LEADING TO DEATH.
Nicotine, however is 50 times more addictive than heroine.
I quit weed about two years ago. COLD TURKEYI have yet been able to quit cigarettes.
Who ever says any different should provide SCIENTIFIC proof, or STFU.

I'm not advocating doing any drugs, in fact I gave up all but cigarettes, but I do believe in getting the CORRECT INFORMATION, and not misleading the public with the premise that "It's for your own good".
I'm SICK AND F*$@ING TIRED OF PEOPLE LYING TO ME AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT SUBJECTS SUCH AS THIS. I DO NOT NEED YOU HOLDING MY HAND, DIRECTING MY EVERY MOVE, TREATING ME AS A CHILD.

Give me facts, I'll decide for myself.


I think maybe you should start smoking weed again. I think you replaced it with unhealthy levels of caffeine.

/Srzly, bong hits dude.
 
2012-10-07 06:43:05 PM
Pot can definitely be addictive. It does not create a substantial physical dependence but when someone is used to regulating their emotional states with marijuana it can very difficult to stop.
 
2012-10-07 06:45:13 PM

gilgigamesh: GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.

I smoke pot on a near daily basis, and I have for decades. However, whenever I travel (and I travel a lot), I don't bring weed with me. So I will go from daily intake to anywhere from a few days to several weeks weed-free; cold turkey.

When I do, other than missing it a bit (especially if I'm on vacation), I don't have any symptoms of what could reasonably be termed withdrawal. Not the least bit of anxiety or distress. I just stop and go on with life, and when I return I am no worse for wear.

If that is addiction, addicts are pussies.


Just wanted to add that I do the same. Smoke/drink milk (pot milk - great for sleeping) for 3 years daily and I can go weeks without it with no worries. Now beer, on the other hand...well, I'm missing that after the first 3 hour meeting to discuss what "done" means...
 
2012-10-07 06:49:25 PM
i smoked strong weed every day for four years straight. then i ran out, so i stopped. it wasn't that hard. sometimes i'd still just love to be stoned (i'd rather be high than drunk any day), but my landlord doesn't approve.
 
2012-10-07 06:52:59 PM

Gyrfalcon: We kind of figured when we got to the large intestine part.


Some Farkers didn't.

/Been enjoying this thread while I smoke some of BC best from my vaporizer.
//Dope is not addictive.
///gilgigamesh said it best.
 
2012-10-07 06:53:07 PM

muddythinker: I call bullshiat on this one. I have known scores of alcoholics, and maybe more than a hundred nicotine addicts in my life, and only one maryjane addict. I also know there are clinical studies showing this not to be the case, but I'm too lazy to look this up.


Yep. Your experiences sum up the totality of existence.
 
2012-10-07 07:11:51 PM

Wyalt Derp: muddythinker: The Fark headline is misleading.

Inconceivable!


I do not think you know what that word means...
 
2012-10-07 07:12:49 PM

gibbon1: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I've tried weed, alcohol, gambling, sex, tobacco, shopping, video games, and opiates. I'm addicted to being addicted to things.

I'm addicted to moderation. I set out to get blind drunk and have a beer and suddenly I feel my resolve weakening. I'll try and stick with it and have another beer, but by the end of that one I start thinking about how I'm going to feel the next morning and I can't go on. Next thing I know I'm cold sober... again.


Me too Gibbon...me too
 
2012-10-07 07:15:20 PM
I ran out a few days ago. I'm farking dying here. Help me, help me please......

No, actually I'm just fine. And I'm an alcoholic. Yes, the go-to-meetings kind. Only I haven't been in 20 years. .
 
2012-10-07 07:16:13 PM
While weed's certainly not physically addictive, I have no doubt that it can become psychologically addictive for certain people. Every person I've known who smoked all the time every day used it as a means of distancing themselves from reality and their own emotions. If you find yourself too scared to ever spend a moment of life sober, you may have a problem. And if you use it to define your personality, you're kinda lame.

/Occasional smoker, usually just a few tokes before bed.
 
2012-10-07 07:19:08 PM
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And I never had to waste time waiting around for some shiatty fleabag dealer to get his shiat together ever again. Legalize it and maybe I'd have a bit occasionally, but never -ever- will I put up with some fecking moran dealers bullshiat.
 
2012-10-07 07:20:51 PM
No one finds it suspect that this article comes out just before we vote to legalize it?
 
2012-10-07 07:22:59 PM

Isuldirs: Gyrfalcon: We kind of figured when we got to the large intestine part.

Some Farkers didn't.

/Been enjoying this thread while I smoke some of BC best from my vaporizer.
//Dope is not addictive.
///gilgigamesh said it best.


Maple ridge is is a good AOC for the BC variety. Still miss the sand bar balcony (granville island)and the taste testing that could be done with people you may have never met before.
 
2012-10-07 07:23:03 PM

dickfreckle: logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.
Such a shame. 
It's...it's beautiful...
/wish I had your snark skillz


It is. that was A+
 
2012-10-07 07:27:51 PM

Truncks1: It is really easy to quit smoking weed. Its not anything close to nicotine. And I was just as unproductive before and after. Its all insane bullshiat.



I get addicted to chemicals quite easily. I tend to drink too much, though I have it in check, and I'm having a hell of a time quitting tobacco. I drink a lot of coffee.

I smoked a lot of pot in college. By a lot, I mean several times a day, every day of the week. When I decided to quit school and embark on a career path that required a drug screening to get hired I stopped. I put the bowl in a drawer and did not smoke again for years, the only exception that I once took a couple of hits off a joint at a concert.

No withdrawal symptoms, no cravings, nothing. I guess my own experience makes me skeptical of anyone who claims he can't quit pot, but after watching people who smoked cigarettes for decades just stop (while I am having a real tough time with it) I suppose I have to give the benefit of the doubt to someone who claims to be addicted to anything, including something I was able to just walk away from.
 
2012-10-07 07:30:05 PM

eurotrader: Still miss the sand bar balcony (granville island)and the taste testing that could be done with people you may have never met before.


No BS. My home looks at the Sand Bar restaurant (from across the water) and I have partaken there before as well.

/Small world.
//EIP, give me a buzz if ever in city. Go for a walk and a smoke.
 
2012-10-07 07:43:50 PM

Isuldirs: Gyrfalcon: We kind of figured when we got to the large intestine part.

Some Farkers didn't.

/Been enjoying this thread while I smoke some of BC best from my vaporizer.
//Dope is not addictive.
///gilgigamesh said it best.


Yes. It is.
/Smoked half my life. Gave it up with difficulty.
//Grown professionaly.
///Still support the movement. Just don't worship it anymore.
 
2012-10-07 07:46:13 PM
I doubt either the home growers or drug cartels have put a fraction of the resources that Big Tobacco has towards maximizing the addictive quality of their respective products.

/In no way supporting Big tobacco going on 6 yearsm
 
2012-10-07 07:47:35 PM

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Dorm room?
 
2012-10-07 07:47:42 PM

JRoo: Lord Dimwit: It may not be addictive physically, but I've known plenty of people who would rather smoke pot than get a job, do something active with their friends, or, you know, do anything at all.

One of my friends who's a big pothead hitched a ride with me on a six hour car ride back to where we grew up. I don't care if you smoke pot, but I have a job that requires security clearance, so I said that under no circumstances was he to bring pot in my car; I couldn't afford to get in that kind of trouble if we got pulled over for unrelated reasons. He couldn't stand to not smoke pot for six hours. He smoked up before he got in the car, and then brought pot against my wishes into my car and smoked up in a gas station's bathroom. I was furious. (This guy also got fired from several jobs because he'd smoke up before work and then doing a crappy job.)

So yeah, not addictive in the physical sense, but people can be psychologically addicted to anything.

Well maybe that guy just sucks because I smoke before work all the time and I do a pretty damn good job at most every job I've ever had.

I almost dare you to find a carpenter that doesn't smoke weed.



Or a luthier...
 
2012-10-07 07:53:04 PM
Based on my college experience, being broke is a great way to break your pot habit.
 
2012-10-07 07:54:00 PM

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.


logistic: I was being sarcastic.



Now this is true trolling, even after you fess up you still got multiple bites, I salute you.
 
2012-10-07 07:54:07 PM
I have quit smoking both pot and cigarettes and I can tell you that the pot was a cakewalk compared to quitting the Camels.

Oh man it is SO much harder to quit cigarettes than weed. The weed was just a bummer for a couple days. The cigs made me want to tear my hair out.

YMMV.
 
2012-10-07 07:58:38 PM

Espertron: fragMasterFlash: [img6.imageshack.us image 269x275]

Dorm room?


Nah, thats an MRI scan of my liver.
 
2012-10-07 07:59:51 PM

SoxSweepAgain: I have quit smoking both pot and cigarettes and I can tell you that the pot was a cakewalk compared to quitting the Camels.

Oh man it is SO much harder to quit cigarettes than weed. The weed was just a bummer for a couple days. The cigs made me want to tear my hair out.

YMMV.


For me it was the the reverse. Cigs were never a problem.
 
2012-10-07 08:04:20 PM
This just in: Feeling good is addictive, feeling shiatty sucks. News at 11. Psychological addictiveness is such bullshiat, biased commentators use it to equate pot with heroin.

When will we get studies on the relative addictiveness of sugar and pot? Sugar is actually physically addictive too, where pot is only psychologically.
 
2012-10-07 08:06:29 PM

notatrollorami: I never really got the lazy thing. I routinely do laundry, cook, clean etc. while baked. Never "work work" as that entails a higher level of mental acuity, but any repetitive task is much more enjoyable that way.


Yeah, I normally hate cleaning the house, but it's almost fun with some good tunes and a buzz.
 
2012-10-07 08:13:06 PM

goatan: Like most things don't do it every day and it won't become a habit even two days in a row should be rare. Caffeine for me has been the most addictive thing ever tobacco is easy to quite in comparison. weed just took a few days to get out of the habit once I decided I didn't want to do it every day now i just smoke some every now and then. It's so much better as its much more effective.


If caffeine is a problem, it's probably best if you just never try cocaine or speed. It'd be awesome... probably a little too awesome.

I'm at that unfortunate point in life where I have the money to feed any addictions I end up with, for a short time at least (very short if it becomes a call girls and coke bender), so I have to watch myself a lot more than when I was poor and adventurous....
 
2012-10-07 08:13:11 PM
"Just a small fraction of marijuana users ever try any drug beyond alcohol and cigarettes."

But we know it's the gateway to everything harder and that all heroin and cocaine addicts started smoking weed.
 
2012-10-07 08:19:32 PM

dpzum1: AND, Alcohol is the only drug which can KILL DURING DETOX.

My family has 4 nurses and a Doctor, I KNOW WHAT THE F I'M TALKING ABOUT.


This is potentially dangerously incorrect information.
Please do not repeat it any more.

The list is quite long, including common antidepressants, at commonly prescribed dosages.
 
2012-10-07 08:22:30 PM
As addictive as nicotine and alcohol? Then we should make it as illegal as nicotine and alcohol.
 
2012-10-07 08:28:06 PM

Shmeat: ...smoking pot turkey?

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2012-10-07 08:29:02 PM

cepson: As addictive as nicotine and alcohol? Then we should make it as illegal as nicotine and alcohol.


THIS
 
2012-10-07 08:31:38 PM

meow said the dog: Normally this is the time upon which I would make the joke about being able to do the quitting any time which is desired by me but something I have smoked recently has made me the paranoid person and so I am scared someone is reading the thread and trying to do the using of this against me. Cheetos, anyone?


Are you implicitly offering or implicitly asking for Cheetos here? Your ambiguity is causing me to descend into a 'what if' 'but then' spiral and the end result will be bad credit decisions and obesity. If you want Cheetos, just ask. If you're offering Cheetos, don't play games. This inconsideration to my well being and balance is an affront to decency itself. For every word I typed I thought and felt forty five.
 
2012-10-07 08:36:57 PM
Addictive == Awesome
 
2012-10-07 08:43:49 PM
I quit cold turkey, every night.

Then I eat more cold turkey in the morning.
 
2012-10-07 08:43:54 PM
So, Fark qualifies as addictive.

Step away from the computer for your own good.
 
2012-10-07 08:56:05 PM
What simpletons do these people think they are kidding in the least bit imaginable? Pot is NOT physically addictive. At. All. It can be psychologically addictive, but that's the extent of it. You are not going to go into marijuanna withdrawels so if a person does show physical withdrawel symptons it is not the weed it is something entirely different. The best way to stop smoking weed is to stop smoking weed and get over it. Best part of it is that you can revisit it much later and it'll work a lot better for you as your tolerance decreases. An article comparing weed "addiction" to nicotine and alcohol is misleading to the point of being evil and insidiou, and anyone that tries to say otherwise are equally evil and insidicous. Should be ashamed of yourselves for misleading the simple-minded and uneducated.
 
2012-10-07 08:59:13 PM

BlueDog: I quit cold turkey, every night.

Then I eat more cold turkey in the morning.


You mean WILD turkey, dontcha?
 
2012-10-07 08:59:42 PM

Marcus Aurelius: SundaesChild: Marcus Aurelius: Quitting smoking tobacco is easy. I used to do it every Monday for nearly 20 years.

I quit smoking Halloween 2009. Other than a 3 month case of bronchitis about 3 weeks after quitting, no problem. I quit smoking pot on a regular basis about 10 years earlier, no problem. Also no bronchitis.

I still drink at least weekly, but that's still socially acceptable, yes?

I'm pretty sure that not smoking doesn't cause bronchitis :)

I was a two to three pack a day smoker. Quitting cigarettes is one of the hardest things I've ever done.


Not smoking does cause your lungs to produce a lot more mucus, etc, because it's ridding itself of the poisins and toxins. It won't cause bronchitis, but regenerating lung tissue is susceptible to such things. It's a causation.
 
2012-10-07 09:02:17 PM
I strongly disagree subster. I had no problem putting down my glass pipe for a job drug screen for months.
 
2012-10-07 09:16:17 PM
I've never met a single person who had ever used cannabis that had a difficult time not using it if they didn't want to be using it.
 
2012-10-07 09:35:30 PM
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2012-10-07 09:37:25 PM
It's hard to give up smoking and drinking largely (but not entirely) because you have to find a new set of friends that don't smoke and/or drink all the time. The same could go for pot
 
2012-10-07 09:42:44 PM
Any thread that has a quote from meow said the dog with multiple votes for smartest and funniest has to be full of stoners...
 
2012-10-07 10:04:19 PM

indylaw: It's hard to give up smoking and drinking largely (but not entirely) because you have to find a new set of friends that don't smoke and/or drink all the time. The same could go for pot


Well, there's this.

In fact, it's true of any habit you want to break. Want to start exercising more and eat better? You have to have a set of friends who like to eat healthy and don't spend all their time playing video games. Trying to quit gambling? No more hanging out with your buddies at the sports bar. Even something like spending more time with your family means you don't get to go out after work with the guys or gals from the office. Any lifestyle change is just that--a lifestyle change, and it's not easy.
 
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