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2012-10-07 05:15:36 PM
Huh UH! Tobacco, is like really bad and every time you light a cigarette, it's just like putting infants on spikes! And, and booze is like, the old boy network drug of choice and it's like, a million times worse than weed, cause like, weed's like, cool and enlightening and the man is just trying to uh, uh, wait a minute... I was going somewhere with this...
 
2012-10-07 05:15:38 PM

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: Truncks1: It is really easy to quit smoking weed. Its not anything close to nicotine. And I was just as unproductive before and after. Its all insane bullshiat.

I remember quitting and thinking "oh I'm going to be so much more productive now and be able to remember things better" and then finding I'm just lazy and still can't remember shiat.


I think people start to think that they were a different person before they started or something, hearing all this crap about what it does to you and start to think "omg, i was totally productive before and i could remember clearly everything that ever happened!" and then they quit for some reason or another and realize that they were never superman, they used to forget stuff before they even started too, and continue procrastinating by doing some else instead of smoking. People need to stop blaming all their problems on weed when its really themselves.
 
2012-10-07 05:15:59 PM
Pot was easy, just walked away from it. Cigarettes however, much harder.
Quit them on Jan 1, 2000 after decades of trying.
Pot is the most over hyped danger on the planet.
 
2012-10-07 05:17:04 PM
Weed keeps the urge to kill from rising.
 
2012-10-07 05:17:23 PM
The mods either screwed up the timing on this going green, or they gave everyone a couple minutes to light up ;-)

That said...



namegoeshere: Pot isn't addictive. Being high and therefore not sober, is. It's similar to gambling addiction, shopping addiction, gaming addiction, sex addiction, eating disorder addiction, basically any behavior that you use to avoid feeling and can't stop.

So in that sense, pot addiction can be very hard to quit. Not that if you were locked in a room with no weed you'd be at physical risk of severe withdrawl symptoms. Just that after not feeling real sober emotions for so long, being forced to finally feel them would suck mightily. And since pot is cheap, easy to get, and the most socially acceptable of the illegal drugs, why bother?

If you're the type who smokes almost daily but then easily stops for periods of sobriety, you're probably not using pot in the same way as the guy who uses it to avoid painful emotions. Congrats, you are a recreational user and not addicted. Toke on, man, toke on.

If otoh you can't stop smoking pot, try a good shrink.



QFT
 
2012-10-07 05:21:55 PM

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.


I know, I once knew a girl who had a sister who had a cousin who had a another cousin who was lazy who had a friend who never cleaned his house and went to church where his brother knew the same guy who's cousin had a father that was a mechanic heard a story about a customer who's brother had a niece who knew a college friend who vomitted his intestine out from with drawal. True story, for real.
 
2012-10-07 05:24:16 PM
Usually its a factor of if I need to save up for parts for the car. On an old BMW, that can mean weeks or months at a time.
 
2012-10-07 05:24:57 PM
enough about me

The only part she got right...
 
2012-10-07 05:25:58 PM
That's like comparing apples to enlightenment.
 
2012-10-07 05:26:01 PM

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients


You may want to literally get a job somewhere else. Literally.
 
2012-10-07 05:26:09 PM
/Never quit!
//All day, E'ry day!
///Still rollin' to this day
//Hold on, brb, someone knocking at t
 
2012-10-07 05:27:23 PM

gilgigamesh: GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.

I smoke pot on a near daily basis, and I have for decades. However, whenever I travel (and I travel a lot), I don't bring weed with me. So I will go from daily intake to anywhere from a few days to several weeks weed-free; cold turkey.

When I do, other than missing it a bit (especially if I'm on vacation), I don't have any symptoms of what could reasonably be termed withdrawal. Not the least bit of anxiety or distress. I just stop and go on with life, and when I return I am no worse for wear.

If that is addiction, addicts are pussies.


this.
 
2012-10-07 05:27:34 PM

GungFu: I've been addicted for over two decades now; smoking cold turkeys has been the hardest to break habit I've ever had.

Smoking cold chicken and quitting it was easy. I think the difference is the meat and skin. Cold chicken just doesn't have the same addictive fowlinoids that turkeys have.

It's a costly habit but for the most part supply is plentiful, except when it's Thanks Giving time or Christmas. That's when the prices go through the roof and sometimes I have to smoke cold turkey sandwich meat that's processed. It's just not the same buzz,


Have you ever tried pork shoulder? Man, that's some good shiat right there.
 
2012-10-07 05:28:47 PM
EDIT: I was too hasty in dismissing this young fool, for I found a pointless link in the text in which Wikipedia informed me of this:

The humbler consists of a testicle cuff device that clamps around the base of the scrotum, mounted in the centre of a bar that passes behind the thighs at the base of the buttocks. This forces the wearer to keep his legs folded forward, as any attempt to straighten the legs even slightly pulls directly on the scrotum, causing from considerable discomfort to extreme pain.[citation needed]
 
2012-10-07 05:31:04 PM
Trollmitter is trolly.
 
2012-10-07 05:31:48 PM

iaazathot: Is it that time of the year for false information about marijuana again?


Yes. The equinox means that the plants switched to budding out. In a few weeks there's going to be a record crop of forest kind on the market.

My experience was the better the pot the worse the headache. No better deterrent than a headache.
 
2012-10-07 05:34:56 PM
I've been a daily toker for 20 years. Few tips to avoid being a burnout:

1) Only wake-n-bake on Sundays.
2) Once a year take a few weeks off to remind yourself you're a lazy-ass with or without weed.
3) Don't take it on vacation (unless you're camping).
4) If you smoke in moderation, you'll double your enjoyment of it.
5) If you want to quit, don't turn it into a huge f*cking deal, just put the bong down.
 
2012-10-07 05:36:50 PM

Rich Cream: basemetal: Just a small fraction of marijuana users ever try any drug beyond alcohol and cigarettes.

Meh, don't believe that at all. Maybe they don't all go on to become heroin addicts, but I do believe many of them will take one of their friend's xanax, vicodin or adderall here or there.


But are you saying the pot makes them do that or is it a personality type that does drugs and pot just happens to be the safest and easiest to try first?


I'm saying that people that like to get a buzz are going to try other buzzes.
 
2012-10-07 05:37:14 PM
bullshiat. (dnrtfa)
 
2012-10-07 05:39:06 PM
WRONG.
Marijuana is NOT PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE. NEVER BEEN A CASE OF OVERDOSE LEADING TO DEATH.
Nicotine, however is 50 times more addictive than heroine.
I quit weed about two years ago. COLD TURKEYI have yet been able to quit cigarettes.
Who ever says any different should provide SCIENTIFIC proof, or STFU.

I'm not advocating doing any drugs, in fact I gave up all but cigarettes, but I do believe in getting the CORRECT INFORMATION, and not misleading the public with the premise that "It's for your own good".
I'm SICK AND F*$@ING TIRED OF PEOPLE LYING TO ME AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT SUBJECTS SUCH AS THIS. I DO NOT NEED YOU HOLDING MY HAND, DIRECTING MY EVERY MOVE, TREATING ME AS A CHILD.

Give me facts, I'll decide for myself.
 
2012-10-07 05:39:16 PM

basemetal: Rich Cream: basemetal: Just a small fraction of marijuana users ever try any drug beyond alcohol and cigarettes.

Meh, don't believe that at all. Maybe they don't all go on to become heroin addicts, but I do believe many of them will take one of their friend's xanax, vicodin or adderall here or there.


But are you saying the pot makes them do that or is it a personality type that does drugs and pot just happens to be the safest and easiest to try first?

I'm saying that people that like to get a buzz are going to try other buzzes.


Oh, and more importantly, that makes this writer full of shiat for the initial statement I quoted.
 
2012-10-07 05:42:28 PM
AND, Alcohol is the only drug which can KILL DURING DETOX.

My family has 4 nurses and a Doctor, I KNOW WHAT THE F I'M TALKING ABOUT.
 
2012-10-07 05:43:14 PM

dpzum1: WRONG.
Marijuana is NOT PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE. NEVER BEEN A CASE OF OVERDOSE LEADING TO DEATH.


Physically addictive substances always lead to fatal overdose? Or could those be, you know, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS?

CAPS MAKES IT TRUE.
 
2012-10-07 05:43:53 PM

Acharne: logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.

No you didn't. Stop helping the lying people lie.


So many bites on this one. It's funny too. 10/10
 
2012-10-07 05:44:19 PM
I had been smoking marijuana on a regular basis since I was 17. I'm 22 now. I started smoking a gram of mids and towards the end I'd go through an ounce of loud every two weeks. Recently I decided it was time I did more with my life than work in a grocery store getting paid minimum wage and spending all my money on weed. I quit cold turkey on the 24th of September. I've had no desire to use since, although I do miss the act of "smoking". I've had no ill effects from any sort of withdraw. I'm now in the recruitment process with the USAF. I'm taking the ASVAB on the 15th and once I can pass a urinalysis I'm off to MEPS.


Note* I'd smoke a bowl before going on a run shortly before I quit. I've kept up with my running as I smoked the last of my bud. The running probably helped curb my desire to smoke. I seem to recall reading a study on how that helps.

/anyone who went to rehab for weed was either given a choice between jail time or rehab, or is just a complete and total pussy.
 
2012-10-07 05:44:29 PM
As someone currently going through cold turkey alcohol withdrawal, I'm getting a kick...
 
2012-10-07 05:44:57 PM

T.rex: All you people doubting it being addicting, just let me just say fark you...

Got news for you... Different strokes for different folks.... I have zero problem not smoking cigarrettes or having a sip of alcohol, but it's rare for me to have gone more than a week without weed in the past 20 years.... The longest i've ever gone was probably a month, as i was gearing up for a drug test.

My point? Its just as insulting for you to say its not addicting, as for me to say alcohol and cigs are not addicting....


If you can go a month, you aren't addicted. You just like it.
 
2012-10-07 05:45:13 PM

Weaver95: That said, for some people, marijuana is a wickedly difficult master. Ironically, its (relatively) low cost and the lack of obvious severe negative consequences from frequent use make spotting problems and changing behavior more difficult:

this statement makes little sense.


Why not?

Quitting something is easier if staying on it has worse consequences.
 
2012-10-07 05:45:51 PM
9/10, submitter. Would have been a perfect score, but pot advocates are easy to troll.
 
2012-10-07 05:46:45 PM
pot is fun
 
2012-10-07 05:46:56 PM

FloydA: I remember being addicted.

It was as though all the lights were on, but nobody was home. I felt as though someone else was controlling my mind; it didn't belong to me any more. The sweating and shaking were nearly constant reminders. I was unable to eat or sleep and breathing was difficult due to a tightness in my throat. I was deeply into it. I kept telling myself that I had built up an immunity, and I really wanted to believe that, but it would be more accurate to say that I constantly wanted more. I could see all of the classic signs, but it was as though I had lost the ability to read. I started having heart palpitations, and I seemed to be moving at a different speed from everyone else. I couldn't be saved, and I longed for oblivion. As long as there was any left, I would be happy to take it. Like I said, I wanted to believe that I was immune to the stuff, oh yeah, but in the end I finally had to face it. Also, for some reason, there were a bunch of women wearing too much makeup and playing guitars.


I love you!
 
2012-10-07 05:50:00 PM

dpzum1: AND, Alcohol is the only drug which can KILL DURING DETOX.

My family has 4 nurses and a Doctor, I KNOW WHAT THE F I'M TALKING ABOUT.


Valium dear friend. Long term benzo addiction can lead to fatal seizures during withdrawal.
 
2012-10-07 05:51:14 PM

notatrollorami: Krymson Tyde: eurotrader: Krymson Tyde: I used to smoke cigarettes; quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
I used to smoke a lot of marijuana (2-3 oz/week) then I took a job where random drug tests were a possibility; I stopped smoking with no side effects.

Cheap ditch weed 2-3 oz a week or over sharing? I have met a few people that smoke a lot of weed and if that was decent quality you would have interesting body chemistry or you never left the sofa except for snacks

In fairness it was a team effort with a friend, but I held a full time job at the time. Smoking was evenings and weekends. All evening and all weekend.
If I was at home I was vegetating.

I never really got the lazy thing. I routinely do laundry, cook, clean etc. while baked. Never "work work" as that entails a higher level of mental acuity, but any repetitive task is much more enjoyable that way.

///No power tools though.


No cooking for me. I'll get distracted by the robo-porn on "How It's Made" and forget the oven is on.
 
2012-10-07 05:52:00 PM
...smoking pot turkey?

www.421flavors.com
 
2012-10-07 05:52:21 PM

Marcus Aurelius: GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.

I have been addicted to tobacco, opiates, and alcohol at various points in my life. From those experiences, I can assure you that pot is no more addictive than good ice cream.


Same here, I'd have to say that alcohol was a biatch but tobacco is by far the hardest to put down.
 
2012-10-07 05:52:40 PM

dpzum1: WRONG.
Marijuana is NOT PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE. NEVER BEEN A CASE OF OVERDOSE LEADING TO DEATH.
Nicotine, however is 50 times more addictive than heroine.
I quit weed about two years ago. COLD TURKEYI have yet been able to quit cigarettes.
Who ever says any different should provide SCIENTIFIC proof, or STFU.

I'm not advocating doing any drugs, in fact I gave up all but cigarettes, but I do believe in getting the CORRECT INFORMATION, and not misleading the public with the premise that "It's for your own good".
I'm SICK AND F*$@ING TIRED OF PEOPLE LYING TO ME AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT SUBJECTS SUCH AS THIS. I DO NOT NEED YOU HOLDING MY HAND, DIRECTING MY EVERY MOVE, TREATING ME AS A CHILD.

Give me facts, I'll decide for myself.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-07 05:54:31 PM
So are they going to start pulling people over and use alcohol and tobacco sniffing dogs to find out if you have any alcohol or tobacco in the car and if you have too much will they start taking away all your possessions and money and throw you in jail?
 
2012-10-07 05:56:21 PM
It may not be addictive physically, but I've known plenty of people who would rather smoke pot than get a job, do something active with their friends, or, you know, do anything at all.

One of my friends who's a big pothead hitched a ride with me on a six hour car ride back to where we grew up. I don't care if you smoke pot, but I have a job that requires security clearance, so I said that under no circumstances was he to bring pot in my car; I couldn't afford to get in that kind of trouble if we got pulled over for unrelated reasons. He couldn't stand to not smoke pot for six hours. He smoked up before he got in the car, and then brought pot against my wishes into my car and smoked up in a gas station's bathroom. I was furious. (This guy also got fired from several jobs because he'd smoke up before work and then doing a crappy job.)

So yeah, not addictive in the physical sense, but people can be psychologically addicted to anything.
 
2012-10-07 05:57:38 PM
Quitting cigarettes was the hardest thing I did in my life.

Quitting pot... meh.
 
2012-10-07 05:57:48 PM

NewportBarGuy: logistic: I was being sarcastic.

Never admit to a troll as beautiful as that.


Agreed. Best troll in friggin' years. A+
 
2012-10-07 05:59:05 PM

Lord Dimwit: It may not be addictive physically, but I've known plenty of people who would rather smoke pot than get a job, do something active with their friends, or, you know, do anything at all.

One of my friends who's a big pothead hitched a ride with me on a six hour car ride back to where we grew up. I don't care if you smoke pot, but I have a job that requires security clearance, so I said that under no circumstances was he to bring pot in my car; I couldn't afford to get in that kind of trouble if we got pulled over for unrelated reasons. He couldn't stand to not smoke pot for six hours. He smoked up before he got in the car, and then brought pot against my wishes into my car and smoked up in a gas station's bathroom. I was furious. (This guy also got fired from several jobs because he'd smoke up before work and then doing a crappy job.)

So yeah, not addictive in the physical sense, but people can be psychologically addicted to anything.


Well maybe that guy just sucks because I smoke before work all the time and I do a pretty damn good job at most every job I've ever had.

I almost dare you to find a carpenter that doesn't smoke weed.
 
2012-10-07 05:59:14 PM
I'm surprised this hasn't turned into some pot-snob thread like beer, spirits, cooking, photography, cars, computers, etc... ad nauseum... on FARK.

FARKER #1: I prefer Northern Lights. It has a nice, nutty flavor and gives me the perfect mellow.

FARKER #2: Northern Lights is teh ghey! Maui Wowie is the real dank stuff.

FARKER #1: You are being a troll.

FARKER #2: Anyone who says they like Northern Lights deserves to be trolled.

(eventually, FARKER #3 enters will describe to tedious detail how they homegrow and if you don't, you're supporting crime, smoking inferior weed, and are a general douchebag waste of flesh to society)
 
2012-10-07 06:03:28 PM

dpzum1: AND, Alcohol is the only drug which can KILL DURING DETOX.

My family has 4 nurses and a Doctor, I KNOW WHAT THE F I'M TALKING ABOUT.


And......you would be wrong.
 
2012-10-07 06:03:47 PM
Complete bullshiat. I'll miss it, but there's no physical withdrawals at all - any argument to the contrary is absolute horse shiat.
 
2012-10-07 06:05:58 PM

basemetal: And......you would be wrong.


Always trust the one member of the family who didn't have the skill or persistence become a professional.
 
2012-10-07 06:06:22 PM

Espertron: I'm surprised this hasn't turned into some pot-snob thread


The night is young.
 
2012-10-07 06:08:41 PM

bump: Complete bullshiat. I'll miss it, but there's no physical withdrawals at all - any argument to the contrary is absolute horse shiat.


no physical withdrawals? but what about the Newport smoking that ALWAYS goes along side it
 
2012-10-07 06:16:21 PM

logistic: I was being sarcastic.


We kind of figured when we got to the large intestine part.
 
2012-10-07 06:17:00 PM

give me doughnuts: oliass: Ibogaine is the answer. After trying everything under the sun, Myself, my wife, my mom, and my brother all quit nicotine through an ibogaine treatment. That was years ago and none of us have smoked since.

Did you put it in both cups of wine?


wuh??
 
2012-10-07 06:18:58 PM
A frat in Tennessee has a simple way to quit, based on a tried and true method for alcohol -- the marijuana enema/suppository.

Below, a medical technician lubricates a large suppository to be inserted into the patient, while a news team waits outside the office. As soon as placement is made, the video crew records and puts up on YouTube.

That's cold, turkey!


i92.photobucket.com
 
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