purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: Truncks1: It is really easy to quit smoking weed. Its not anything close to nicotine. And I was just as unproductive before and after. Its all insane bullshiat.I remember quitting and thinking "oh I'm going to be so much more productive now and be able to remember things better" and then finding I'm just lazy and still can't remember shiat.
namegoeshere: Pot isn't addictive. Being high and therefore not sober, is. It's similar to gambling addiction, shopping addiction, gaming addiction, sex addiction, eating disorder addiction, basically any behavior that you use to avoid feeling and can't stop.So in that sense, pot addiction can be very hard to quit. Not that if you were locked in a room with no weed you'd be at physical risk of severe withdrawl symptoms. Just that after not feeling real sober emotions for so long, being forced to finally feel them would suck mightily. And since pot is cheap, easy to get, and the most socially acceptable of the illegal drugs, why bother?If you're the type who smokes almost daily but then easily stops for periods of sobriety, you're probably not using pot in the same way as the guy who uses it to avoid painful emotions. Congrats, you are a recreational user and not addicted. Toke on, man, toke on.If otoh you can't stop smoking pot, try a good shrink.
logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.Such a shame.
logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients
gilgigamesh: GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.I smoke pot on a near daily basis, and I have for decades. However, whenever I travel (and I travel a lot), I don't bring weed with me. So I will go from daily intake to anywhere from a few days to several weeks weed-free; cold turkey.When I do, other than missing it a bit (especially if I'm on vacation), I don't have any symptoms of what could reasonably be termed withdrawal. Not the least bit of anxiety or distress. I just stop and go on with life, and when I return I am no worse for wear.If that is addiction, addicts are pussies.
GungFu: I've been addicted for over two decades now; smoking cold turkeys has been the hardest to break habit I've ever had.Smoking cold chicken and quitting it was easy. I think the difference is the meat and skin. Cold chicken just doesn't have the same addictive fowlinoids that turkeys have.It's a costly habit but for the most part supply is plentiful, except when it's Thanks Giving time or Christmas. That's when the prices go through the roof and sometimes I have to smoke cold turkey sandwich meat that's processed. It's just not the same buzz,
iaazathot: Is it that time of the year for false information about marijuana again?
Rich Cream: basemetal: Just a small fraction of marijuana users ever try any drug beyond alcohol and cigarettes.Meh, don't believe that at all. Maybe they don't all go on to become heroin addicts, but I do believe many of them will take one of their friend's xanax, vicodin or adderall here or there.But are you saying the pot makes them do that or is it a personality type that does drugs and pot just happens to be the safest and easiest to try first?
basemetal: Rich Cream: basemetal: Just a small fraction of marijuana users ever try any drug beyond alcohol and cigarettes.Meh, don't believe that at all. Maybe they don't all go on to become heroin addicts, but I do believe many of them will take one of their friend's xanax, vicodin or adderall here or there.But are you saying the pot makes them do that or is it a personality type that does drugs and pot just happens to be the safest and easiest to try first?I'm saying that people that like to get a buzz are going to try other buzzes.
dpzum1: WRONG.Marijuana is NOT PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE. NEVER BEEN A CASE OF OVERDOSE LEADING TO DEATH.
Acharne: logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.Such a shame.No you didn't. Stop helping the lying people lie.
T.rex: All you people doubting it being addicting, just let me just say fark you...Got news for you... Different strokes for different folks.... I have zero problem not smoking cigarrettes or having a sip of alcohol, but it's rare for me to have gone more than a week without weed in the past 20 years.... The longest i've ever gone was probably a month, as i was gearing up for a drug test.My point? Its just as insulting for you to say its not addicting, as for me to say alcohol and cigs are not addicting....
Weaver95: That said, for some people, marijuana is a wickedly difficult master. Ironically, its (relatively) low cost and the lack of obvious severe negative consequences from frequent use make spotting problems and changing behavior more difficult:this statement makes little sense.
FloydA: I remember being addicted.It was as though all the lights were on, but nobody was home. I felt as though someone else was controlling my mind; it didn't belong to me any more. The sweating and shaking were nearly constant reminders. I was unable to eat or sleep and breathing was difficult due to a tightness in my throat. I was deeply into it. I kept telling myself that I had built up an immunity, and I really wanted to believe that, but it would be more accurate to say that I constantly wanted more. I could see all of the classic signs, but it was as though I had lost the ability to read. I started having heart palpitations, and I seemed to be moving at a different speed from everyone else. I couldn't be saved, and I longed for oblivion. As long as there was any left, I would be happy to take it. Like I said, I wanted to believe that I was immune to the stuff, oh yeah, but in the end I finally had to face it. Also, for some reason, there were a bunch of women wearing too much makeup and playing guitars.
dpzum1: AND, Alcohol is the only drug which can KILL DURING DETOX.My family has 4 nurses and a Doctor, I KNOW WHAT THE F I'M TALKING ABOUT.
notatrollorami: Krymson Tyde: eurotrader: Krymson Tyde: I used to smoke cigarettes; quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done.I used to smoke a lot of marijuana (2-3 oz/week) then I took a job where random drug tests were a possibility; I stopped smoking with no side effects.Cheap ditch weed 2-3 oz a week or over sharing? I have met a few people that smoke a lot of weed and if that was decent quality you would have interesting body chemistry or you never left the sofa except for snacksIn fairness it was a team effort with a friend, but I held a full time job at the time. Smoking was evenings and weekends. All evening and all weekend.If I was at home I was vegetating.I never really got the lazy thing. I routinely do laundry, cook, clean etc. while baked. Never "work work" as that entails a higher level of mental acuity, but any repetitive task is much more enjoyable that way.///No power tools though.
Marcus Aurelius: GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.I have been addicted to tobacco, opiates, and alcohol at various points in my life. From those experiences, I can assure you that pot is no more addictive than good ice cream.
dpzum1: WRONG.Marijuana is NOT PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE. NEVER BEEN A CASE OF OVERDOSE LEADING TO DEATH.Nicotine, however is 50 times more addictive than heroine.I quit weed about two years ago. COLD TURKEYI have yet been able to quit cigarettes.Who ever says any different should provide SCIENTIFIC proof, or STFU.I'm not advocating doing any drugs, in fact I gave up all but cigarettes, but I do believe in getting the CORRECT INFORMATION, and not misleading the public with the premise that "It's for your own good".I'm SICK AND F*$@ING TIRED OF PEOPLE LYING TO ME AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT SUBJECTS SUCH AS THIS. I DO NOT NEED YOU HOLDING MY HAND, DIRECTING MY EVERY MOVE, TREATING ME AS A CHILD.Give me facts, I'll decide for myself.
NewportBarGuy: logistic: I was being sarcastic.Never admit to a troll as beautiful as that.
Lord Dimwit: It may not be addictive physically, but I've known plenty of people who would rather smoke pot than get a job, do something active with their friends, or, you know, do anything at all.One of my friends who's a big pothead hitched a ride with me on a six hour car ride back to where we grew up. I don't care if you smoke pot, but I have a job that requires security clearance, so I said that under no circumstances was he to bring pot in my car; I couldn't afford to get in that kind of trouble if we got pulled over for unrelated reasons. He couldn't stand to not smoke pot for six hours. He smoked up before he got in the car, and then brought pot against my wishes into my car and smoked up in a gas station's bathroom. I was furious. (This guy also got fired from several jobs because he'd smoke up before work and then doing a crappy job.)So yeah, not addictive in the physical sense, but people can be psychologically addicted to anything.
basemetal: And......you would be wrong.
Espertron: I'm surprised this hasn't turned into some pot-snob thread
bump: Complete bullshiat. I'll miss it, but there's no physical withdrawals at all - any argument to the contrary is absolute horse shiat.
logistic: I was being sarcastic.
give me doughnuts: oliass: Ibogaine is the answer. After trying everything under the sun, Myself, my wife, my mom, and my brother all quit nicotine through an ibogaine treatment. That was years ago and none of us have smoked since.Did you put it in both cups of wine?
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