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(Salon)   Apparently, it's hard to quit smoking pot cold turkey because it's just as addictive as nicotine and alcohol   (salon.com) divider line 247
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2012-10-07 04:31:29 PM
I call bullshiat on this one. I have known scores of alcoholics, and maybe more than a hundred nicotine addicts in my life, and only one maryjane addict. I also know there are clinical studies showing this not to be the case, but I'm too lazy to look this up.
 
2012-10-07 04:32:39 PM
QUitting tobacco was hard. Quitting pot was as easy as waking up the next morning.
 
2012-10-07 04:33:06 PM

Krymson Tyde: I used to smoke cigarettes; quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
I used to smoke a lot of marijuana (2-3 oz/week) then I took a job where random drug tests were a possibility; I stopped smoking with no side effects.


Holy crap, and I thought I was hardcore.
 
2012-10-07 04:33:12 PM
PainInTheASP: I have been addicted to tobacco, opiates, and alcohol at various points in my life. From those experiences, I can assure you that pot is no more addictive than good ice cream.

Same here.

It it's psychologically addictive for sure, but physically, I say no. I've quit several times in my life for various reasons and I had no problem at all, even when I was a chronic smoker.
 
2012-10-07 04:34:43 PM

b0rscht: Assholemitter is trying to be cute; the article states the opposite. The advice given is good advice and the article is insightful about cannabis addiction. I've always felt that one of the most insidious things about pot is that you can do it all of the time and it won't send you to the gutter; it's relative harmlessness is what makes it especially sneaky, because if you overdo it, there are downsides that are rather slippery and difficult to pin down.

I lurves me weed, and the best way I've found to deal with this is to not seek it out. If it finds me, great; but gone are the days where I always had to have it and smoked it daily. If it ever becomes legal, I will have to drum up some willpower to avoid doing it all of the time... but that's a problem I'd love to have.


I can see that being a problem. I am fortunately a naturally regimented person so it's not hard for me to stick to limited times and situations. But I have known people who were "addicted" in the sense that they did it so much it was defining and/or ruining them.
 
2012-10-07 04:36:24 PM

iaazathot: Is it that time of the year for false information about marijuana again?


No, because the article explicitly said that weed was less addicting than all those things you mentioned. It looks like it's that time of year to get outraged about stuff no one said again.
 
2012-10-07 04:36:57 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

/been there
//done that
 
2012-10-07 04:38:38 PM

Weaver95: That said, for some people, marijuana is a wickedly difficult master. Ironically, its (relatively) low cost and the lack of obvious severe negative consequences from frequent use make spotting problems and changing behavior more difficult:

this statement makes little sense.


I thought it makes a lot of sense, especially if you read what follows:

FTA: "If a drug is just making you a bit less productive, a bit less present for your loved ones and a bit less happy, you are likely less motivated to kick the habit as you would be if you were losing jobs, homes and relationships as a result of getting high. What makes marijuana less harmful can also make it harder to kick, basically. Because like, Why bother, right?"

Speaking as a daily toker, I thought this was a pretty good article.
 
2012-10-07 04:39:55 PM
I'm addicted to sex, was hooked first time I tried it.
But not having hit bottom yet (no pun intended) I'm not ready to give it up

/ They pry my penis out of my.........
 
2012-10-07 04:40:57 PM
The Fark headline is misleading. Even the author says:

Partly that's because weed genuinely is less addictive than alcohol, heroin, methamphetamine or cocaine.
 
2012-10-07 04:42:20 PM

omgwtfetc: Speaking as a daily toker, I thought this was a pretty good article.


Checks profile. Oh, Canadian, colour me shocked ;P

/Passes the bong
//SK
 
2012-10-07 04:43:12 PM
THAT'S A FARKING LIE!
 
2012-10-07 04:43:14 PM

iaazathot: All my adult friends have successfully stopped smoking weed.


How many of them were addicted to it? I know people who gave up alcohol. Those who were addicted found it rather harder to do so than those who weren't.

But then cigarettes can't possibly be harmful, can they, as we all know someone who smoked 40 a day and live to 93.
 
2012-10-07 04:44:18 PM
Quitting LSD, on the other hand, is easy.
 
2012-10-07 04:45:55 PM
BS 
 
2012-10-07 04:46:08 PM

muddythinker: I call bullshiat on this one. I have known scores of alcoholics, and maybe more than a hundred nicotine addicts in my life, and only one maryjane addict. I also know there are clinical studies showing this not to be the case, but I'm too lazy to look this up.


What are you doubting? That there are many marijuana addicts (which is not a claim made by the article) or that people who are addicted can find it hard to kick?
 
2012-10-07 04:46:45 PM

give me doughnuts: QUitting tobacco was hard. Quitting pot was as easy as waking up the next morning.


So you were addicted to tobacco but not to pot,
 
2012-10-07 04:47:24 PM
Ibogaine is the answer. After trying everything under the sun, Myself, my wife, my mom, and my brother all quit nicotine through an ibogaine treatment. That was years ago and none of us have smoked since.
 
2012-10-07 04:47:55 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-07 04:48:01 PM
I've been addicted for over two decades now; smoking cold turkeys has been the hardest to break habit I've ever had.

Smoking cold chicken and quitting it was easy. I think the difference is the meat and skin. Cold chicken just doesn't have the same addictive fowlinoids that turkeys have.

It's a costly habit but for the most part supply is plentiful, except when it's Thanks Giving time or Christmas. That's when the prices go through the roof and sometimes I have to smoke cold turkey sandwich meat that's processed. It's just not the same buzz,
 
2012-10-07 04:48:06 PM

mudpants: BS


THIS.

This whole article was nothing more than an opinion piece, and a shoddily supported one at that (as far as real data is concerned).
 
2012-10-07 04:49:04 PM

orbister: give me doughnuts: QUitting tobacco was hard. Quitting pot was as easy as waking up the next morning.

So you were addicted to tobacco but not to pot,


That's because pot isn't really addictive.
 
2012-10-07 04:49:08 PM
quitting VIAGRA was HARD. like ROCK HARD
 
2012-10-07 04:49:27 PM

basemetal: Just a small fraction of marijuana users ever try any drug beyond alcohol and cigarettes.

Meh, don't believe that at all. Maybe they don't all go on to become heroin addicts, but I do believe many of them will take one of their friend's xanax, vicodin or adderall here or there.



But are you saying the pot makes them do that or is it a personality type that does drugs and pot just happens to be the safest and easiest to try first?
 
2012-10-07 04:49:42 PM

muddythinker: The Fark headline is misleading.


Inconceivable!
 
2012-10-07 04:50:59 PM
I have friends and family who are/were heavy pot smokers. Most would smoke in order to chill out and relax when they were stressed. They were perpetually self-medicated in order to cope with life.

The problem is that they tend to become highly agitated and moody when they are stressed and they can't smoke. They've lost the ability to cope with stress without being medicated. So while pot may not be physically addictive, it sure as hell seems to be mentally addictive.

That is a hard habit to break. It doesn't help that people don't want to be around your grumpy ass when you're trying to kick the habit, so you don't have a lot of support from others.
 
2012-10-07 04:51:05 PM
So obvious when this hit the main page.
 
2012-10-07 04:51:10 PM
"The actual and potential harm of use of the drug is not great enough to justify intrusion by the criminal law into private behavior, a step which our society takes only 'with the greatest reluctance."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Commission_on_Marihuana_and_Dru g _Abuse
 
2012-10-07 04:51:14 PM
I call BS. I quit in 1989 cold turkey after 14 years of DAILY heavy pot smoking and I never looked back. Wish I had never started.
 
2012-10-07 04:51:35 PM

Acharne: omgwtfetc: Speaking as a daily toker, I thought this was a pretty good article.

Checks profile. Oh, Canadian, colour me shocked ;P

/Passes the bong
//SK


I used to live in Saskatoon. You kind of need it just to get through the winter. I'm moving to Vansterdam in January. That should be fun.
 
2012-10-07 04:51:45 PM
FTA: Maia Szalavitz is the author of the forthcoming book "Tough Love America: How the 'Troubled Teen' Industry Cons Parents and Hurts Kids"

To the Ironymobile!
 
2012-10-07 04:52:11 PM

oliass: Ibogaine is the answer. After trying everything under the sun, Myself, my wife, my mom, and my brother all quit nicotine through an ibogaine treatment. That was years ago and none of us have smoked since.


Did you put it in both cups of wine?
 
2012-10-07 04:53:36 PM

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.

 

It's...it's beautiful...

/wish I had your snark skillz
 
2012-10-07 04:54:56 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I've tried weed, alcohol, gambling, sex, tobacco, shopping, video games, and opiates. I'm addicted to being addicted to things.


I'm addicted to moderation. I set out to get blind drunk and have a beer and suddenly I feel my resolve weakening. I'll try and stick with it and have another beer, but by the end of that one I start thinking about how I'm going to feel the next morning and I can't go on. Next thing I know I'm cold sober... again.
 
2012-10-07 04:56:11 PM

muddythinker: The Fark headline is misleading. Even the author says:


I've noticed there's been quite a bit of this lately on fark. And then no one ever reads the article before getting indignant. I don't think it really matters what the article says any more. I think the trick to a fark greenlight these days is simply fabricate a provocative headline completely out of thin air that you know will get farkers to start getting spittle flecks on their monitors, and link it to a randomly chosen article about petunia gardening or grandma's lemon meringue recipe.
 
2012-10-07 04:57:31 PM
smoking pot cold turkey
www.forkdelivery.ca

/wait
//let me read that again
 
2012-10-07 04:57:39 PM

give me doughnuts: That's because pot isn't really addictive.


Eh, compared to most other drugs it isn't (e.g., physical addiction to alcohol). But you can still become dependent on it as a mood elevator. So it's not the actual pot that people are hooked on, but the good times. Sure, you can quit any time you want without physical withdrawal, but you're still going to stand their twiddling your thumbs because you're sober and bored. I had a roommate that would fly into a rage when his dealer wouldn't show, not because his cells were screaming for THC but because he genuinely couldn't relax without it.

/occasional smoker
//daily drinker
///thinking about inverting the two
 
2012-10-07 04:58:15 PM

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: i.imgur.com


Yeah, I'm going to call serious BS on that FB thread.

I know a couple of people who reduce marijuana in Everclear to create a syrup they put into capsules for their cancer treatment, but the stuff looks like pond scum. Just the appearance of the syrup is a good detraction from trying to inject it. It is also very costly and time consuming to make, which is another detraction. I don't see kids getting their hands on it.
 
2012-10-07 04:59:32 PM
FTA: Ironically, its (relatively) low cost and the lack of obvious severe negative consequences from frequent use make spotting problems and changing behavior more difficult: If a drug is just making you a bit less productive, a bit less present for your loved ones and a bit less happy, you are likely less motivated to kick the habit as you would be if you were losing jobs, homes and relationships as a result of getting high. What makes marijuana less harmful can also make it harder to kick, basically. Because like, Why bother, right?

So much this. When people say tobacco is as addictive as heroin, because smokers have a similar recidivism rate, I say something like the above.
 
2012-10-07 05:01:59 PM
Pot isn't addictive. Being high and therefore not sober, is. It's similar to gambling addiction, shopping addiction, gaming addiction, sex addiction, eating disorder addiction, basically any behavior that you use to avoid feeling and can't stop.

So in that sense, pot addiction can be very hard to quit. Not that if you were locked in a room with no weed you'd be at physical risk of severe withdrawl symptoms. Just that after not feeling real sober emotions for so long, being forced to finally feel them would suck mightily. And since pot is cheap, easy to get, and the most socially acceptable of the illegal drugs, why bother?

If you're the type who smokes almost daily but then easily stops for periods of sobriety, you're probably not using pot in the same way as the guy who uses it to avoid painful emotions. Congrats, you are a recreational user and not addicted. Toke on, man, toke on.

If otoh you can't stop smoking pot, try a good shrink.
 
2012-10-07 05:03:12 PM

TexasScout: I call BS. I quit in 1989 cold turkey after 14 years of DAILY heavy pot smoking and I never looked back. Wish I had never started.


My grandfather gave up smoking after 30 years of cigarettes and he never used back. So obviously that means that nicotine isn't addictive.
 
2012-10-07 05:03:57 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: smoking pot cold turkey

//let me read that again


Hint: it's not a recipe.
 
2012-10-07 05:04:08 PM
I quit cold turkey.

hot turkey is another story.
 
2012-10-07 05:04:15 PM
It is really easy to quit smoking weed. Its not anything close to nicotine. And I was just as unproductive before and after. Its all insane bullshiat.
 
2012-10-07 05:05:31 PM
Simple solution: give all your weed to me. I'll properly dispose of it.
 
2012-10-07 05:07:31 PM
besides it is hard to quit when you are too farkin lazy,paranoid and enjoying your moobs too much.
 
2012-10-07 05:07:45 PM

Truncks1: It is really easy to quit smoking weed. Its not anything close to nicotine. And I was just as unproductive before and after. Its all insane bullshiat.


I remember quitting and thinking "oh I'm going to be so much more productive now and be able to remember things better" and then finding I'm just lazy and still can't remember shiat.
 
2012-10-07 05:09:52 PM
All you people doubting it being addicting, just let me just say fark you...

Got news for you... Different strokes for different folks.... I have zero problem not smoking cigarrettes or having a sip of alcohol, but it's rare for me to have gone more than a week without weed in the past 20 years.... The longest i've ever gone was probably a month, as i was gearing up for a drug test.

My point? Its just as insulting for you to say its not addicting, as for me to say alcohol and cigs are not addicting....
 
2012-10-07 05:13:20 PM

JonnyG: Having just smoked a big fattie, that cold turkey is sounding pretty damned good right about now...


HA! Done.
 
2012-10-07 05:13:22 PM
Like most things don't do it every day and it won't become a habit even two days in a row should be rare. Caffeine for me has been the most addictive thing ever tobacco is easy to quite in comparison. weed just took a few days to get out of the habit once I decided I didn't want to do it every day now i just smoke some every now and then. It's so much better as its much more effective.
 
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