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2012-10-07 11:30:11 AM
I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.
 
2012-10-07 11:36:45 AM
Uh... no, it...

/oh, FFS...
 
2012-10-07 11:37:29 AM
I don't believe this. At all.
 
2012-10-07 11:41:13 AM

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.


Oh, that's nothing compared to the patients with gambling addictions. It was at that point I realized something doesn't have to have a neurochemical or physiological basis to be an addiction.
 
2012-10-07 11:44:16 AM

CreamFilling: It was at that point I realized something doesn't have to have a neurochemical or physiological basis to be an addiction.


We're ALL addicts, and we're ALL addicted to the same thing:

www.thefix.com
 
2012-10-07 11:51:40 AM
I was being sarcastic.
 
2012-10-07 11:54:38 AM
Huh? How do you quit smoking pot? Here's a hint: PUT DOWN THE FRIGGING BONG.

You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

/Friggin newbs.
 
2012-10-07 12:12:09 PM
Quitting smoking tobacco is easy. I used to do it every Monday for nearly 20 years.
 
2012-10-07 12:15:28 PM

PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.


You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.
 
2012-10-07 12:16:06 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Quitting smoking tobacco is easy. I used to do it every Monday for nearly 20 years.


I quit smoking Halloween 2009. Other than a 3 month case of bronchitis about 3 weeks after quitting, no problem. I quit smoking pot on a regular basis about 10 years earlier, no problem. Also no bronchitis.

I still drink at least weekly, but that's still socially acceptable, yes?
 
2012-10-07 12:18:37 PM

GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.


I have been addicted to tobacco, opiates, and alcohol at various points in my life. From those experiences, I can assure you that pot is no more addictive than good ice cream.
 
2012-10-07 12:19:11 PM
I used to smoke cigarettes; quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
I used to smoke a lot of marijuana (2-3 oz/week) then I took a job where random drug tests were a possibility; I stopped smoking with no side effects.
 
2012-10-07 12:21:35 PM

logistic: I was being sarcastic.


Never admit to a troll as beautiful as that.
 
2012-10-07 12:22:50 PM

SundaesChild: Marcus Aurelius: Quitting smoking tobacco is easy. I used to do it every Monday for nearly 20 years.

I quit smoking Halloween 2009. Other than a 3 month case of bronchitis about 3 weeks after quitting, no problem. I quit smoking pot on a regular basis about 10 years earlier, no problem. Also no bronchitis.

I still drink at least weekly, but that's still socially acceptable, yes?


I'm pretty sure that not smoking doesn't cause bronchitis :)

I was a two to three pack a day smoker. Quitting cigarettes is one of the hardest things I've ever done.
 
2012-10-07 12:22:53 PM
I quit smoking both pot and cigarettes cold turkey

/no deaths and only a few minor injuries were reported
 
2012-10-07 12:25:51 PM

Marcus Aurelius: I'm pretty sure that not smoking doesn't cause bronchitis :)


I'll concur with the SundaesChild. Both times I quit for significant periods I wound up with pneumonia or bronchitis. You get over it and can breathe easier afterwards, but for some people (I'm assuming 1+ pack-per-day smokers) this is an issue. You also begin to taste food again as the cilia in your throat regenerates, and you get a nice deep voice.

Maybe that was just puberty?
 
2012-10-07 12:26:19 PM
I do know people who have had difficulty stopping smoking pot, but that wasn't because of any physical withdrawal symptoms.
 
2012-10-07 12:26:25 PM

Krymson Tyde: I used to smoke cigarettes; quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
I used to smoke a lot of marijuana (2-3 oz/week) then I took a job where random drug tests were a possibility; I stopped smoking with no side effects.


Cheap ditch weed 2-3 oz a week or over sharing? I have met a few people that smoke a lot of weed and if that was decent quality you would have interesting body chemistry or you never left the sofa except for snacks
 
2012-10-07 12:26:40 PM
I doubt it is much more addictive than chapstick, and it is probably easier to quit than SNRI's or benzos.
 
2012-10-07 12:27:09 PM

NewportBarGuy: Marcus Aurelius: I'm pretty sure that not smoking doesn't cause bronchitis :)

I'll concur with the SundaesChild. Both times I quit for significant periods I wound up with pneumonia or bronchitis. You get over it and can breathe easier afterwards, but for some people (I'm assuming 1+ pack-per-day smokers) this is an issue. You also begin to taste food again as the cilia in your throat regenerates, and you get a nice deep voice.

Maybe that was just puberty?


I used pot to quit smoking cigarettes. Maybe that's why I didn't get the same lung issues.
 
2012-10-07 12:29:38 PM

Marcus Aurelius: I used pot to quit smoking cigarettes. Maybe that's why I didn't get the same lung issues.


My friends that have done that report the same success. They went from one to the other, then just cut way back and eventually stopped. Some still smoke for recreation, but the others haven't smoked anything in a few years.

That evil weed. Horrible stuff. If you're on the executive board of Phillip Morris USA (not international).
 
2012-10-07 12:45:49 PM
Another article brought to you by the tobacco industry.
 
2012-10-07 01:23:48 PM

eurotrader: Krymson Tyde: I used to smoke cigarettes; quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
I used to smoke a lot of marijuana (2-3 oz/week) then I took a job where random drug tests were a possibility; I stopped smoking with no side effects.

Cheap ditch weed 2-3 oz a week or over sharing? I have met a few people that smoke a lot of weed and if that was decent quality you would have interesting body chemistry or you never left the sofa except for snacks


In fairness it was a team effort with a friend, but I held a full time job at the time. Smoking was evenings and weekends. All evening and all weekend.
If I was at home I was vegetating.
 
2012-10-07 01:29:38 PM
As someone who has quit all three, no, no it's not.
 
2012-10-07 01:44:11 PM
apparently, if you are using Firefox, you have to turn off Adblock to read the full article.
 
2012-10-07 01:59:57 PM
Assholemitter is trying to be cute; the article states the opposite. The advice given is good advice and the article is insightful about cannabis addiction. I've always felt that one of the most insidious things about pot is that you can do it all of the time and it won't send you to the gutter; it's relative harmlessness is what makes it especially sneaky, because if you overdo it, there are downsides that are rather slippery and difficult to pin down.

I lurves me weed, and the best way I've found to deal with this is to not seek it out. If it finds me, great; but gone are the days where I always had to have it and smoked it daily. If it ever becomes legal, I will have to drum up some willpower to avoid doing it all of the time... but that's a problem I'd love to have.
 
2012-10-07 02:01:45 PM

GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.


I smoke pot on a near daily basis, and I have for decades. However, whenever I travel (and I travel a lot), I don't bring weed with me. So I will go from daily intake to anywhere from a few days to several weeks weed-free; cold turkey.

When I do, other than missing it a bit (especially if I'm on vacation), I don't have any symptoms of what could reasonably be termed withdrawal. Not the least bit of anxiety or distress. I just stop and go on with life, and when I return I am no worse for wear.

If that is addiction, addicts are pussies.
 
2012-10-07 02:30:56 PM
I've tried weed, alcohol, gambling, sex, tobacco, shopping, video games, and opiates. I'm addicted to being addicted to things.
 
2012-10-07 02:44:55 PM
That said, for some people, marijuana is a wickedly difficult master. Ironically, its (relatively) low cost and the lack of obvious severe negative consequences from frequent use make spotting problems and changing behavior more difficult:

this statement makes little sense.
 
2012-10-07 02:50:21 PM

gilgigamesh: GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.

I smoke pot on a near daily basis, and I have for decades. However, whenever I travel (and I travel a lot), I don't bring weed with me. So I will go from daily intake to anywhere from a few days to several weeks weed-free; cold turkey.

When I do, other than missing it a bit (especially if I'm on vacation), I don't have any symptoms of what could reasonably be termed withdrawal. Not the least bit of anxiety or distress. I just stop and go on with life, and when I return I am no worse for wear.

If that is addiction, addicts are pussies.


After a few days of smoking my tolerance goes down pretty quickly. So I get a lot higher off less weed. Nice bonus is I spend a lot less on it. If I smoke everyday like I did when I was younger I get to a point where I'm not getting much out of it.
 
2012-10-07 02:56:38 PM
I remember being addicted.

It was as though all the lights were on, but nobody was home. I felt as though someone else was controlling my mind; it didn't belong to me any more. The sweating and shaking were nearly constant reminders. I was unable to eat or sleep and breathing was difficult due to a tightness in my throat. I was deeply into it. I kept telling myself that I had built up an immunity, and I really wanted to believe that, but it would be more accurate to say that I constantly wanted more. I could see all of the classic signs, but it was as though I had lost the ability to read. I started having heart palpitations, and I seemed to be moving at a different speed from everyone else. I couldn't be saved, and I longed for oblivion. As long as there was any left, I would be happy to take it. Like I said, I wanted to believe that I was immune to the stuff, oh yeah, but in the end I finally had to face it. Also, for some reason, there were a bunch of women wearing too much makeup and playing guitars.
 
2012-10-07 03:00:26 PM
Just a small fraction of marijuana users ever try any drug beyond alcohol and cigarettes.

Meh, don't believe that at all. Maybe they don't all go on to become heroin addicts, but I do believe many of them will take one of their friend's xanax, vicodin or adderall here or there.
 
2012-10-07 03:18:17 PM
thecriticalcritics.com

bob saget would like a word with the author

/boo this woman
 
2012-10-07 03:19:14 PM
Normally this is the time upon which I would make the joke about being able to do the quitting any time which is desired by me but something I have smoked recently has made me the paranoid person and so I am scared someone is reading the thread and trying to do the using of this against me. Cheetos, anyone?
 
2012-10-07 03:37:09 PM

Krymson Tyde: I used to smoke cigarettes; quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
I used to smoke a lot of marijuana (2-3 oz/week) then I took a job where random drug tests were a possibility; I stopped smoking with no side effects.


That must have been truly lousy weed. I'm an almost daily smoker, and a quarter lasts me months. But with BC Bud- just a dab'l do ya.

FloydA: I remember being addicted.

It was as though all the lights were on, but nobody was home. I felt as though someone else was controlling my mind; it didn't belong to me any more. The sweating and shaking were nearly constant reminders. I was unable to eat or sleep and breathing was difficult due to a tightness in my throat. I was deeply into it. I kept telling myself that I had built up an immunity, and I really wanted to believe that, but it would be more accurate to say that I constantly wanted more. I could see all of the classic signs, but it was as though I had lost the ability to read. I started having heart palpitations, and I seemed to be moving at a different speed from everyone else. I couldn't be saved, and I longed for oblivion. As long as there was any left, I would be happy to take it. Like I said, I wanted to believe that I was immune to the stuff, oh yeah, but in the end I finally had to face it. Also, for some reason, there were a bunch of women wearing too much makeup and playing guitars.


Nicely played, Floyd.

www.google.ca
 
2012-10-07 03:50:12 PM
I used to smoke cigarettes daily. It was more from habit than nicotine addiction. Now, I smoke one or two nights a week when I'm hanging out with friends who smoke. I can have a pack in arm's reach and plain sight, and I don't really feel the need to smoke.

Any way, nicotine is an awesome drug, but the effects of smoking/dipping to consume it are terrible.
 
2012-10-07 04:20:58 PM

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.


They see me trollin'...they hatin'...
 
2012-10-07 04:21:06 PM

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.


Are you making this up?
 
2012-10-07 04:21:59 PM
Currently celebrating Canucks-giving, so I'm more worried about quitting cold turkey in a week's time.
 
2012-10-07 04:22:40 PM

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.


No you didn't. Stop helping the lying people lie.
 
2012-10-07 04:23:48 PM

Marcus Aurelius: GAT_00: PainInTheASP: You'll feel a little anxious when you're down to just stems and seeds and there's nothing to do on that rainy Saturday afternoon, but fight the urge to make that phone call. Pick up a book instead. Lather, rinse and repeat for about 48 hours and guess what? You're past the worst part.

You do realize that's addiction, right? And that isn't even addressing the psychological, but not physical, addition of needing it to calm down and relax.

I have been addicted to tobacco, opiates, and alcohol at various points in my life. From those experiences, I can assure you that pot is no more addictive than good ice cream.


I'm with you on all of the above to some extent. Ice cream is a good comparison but I would go with chocolate. Probably a similar number of "addicts".
 
2012-10-07 04:26:54 PM

logistic: I agree. As a nurse, I saw so many patients shaking and vomiting during marijuana detox. Alcohol detox literally killed patients, but not nearly as many as marijuana detox. Once I saw a marijuana addict vomit his own large intestine out from withdrawal.

Such a shame.



Heh what a load of bovine fecal excrement. You have a headache some insomnia. You might be a little irritable at most.
 
2012-10-07 04:27:46 PM
FTA: "Usual disclaimer: I am not a doctor... "

That's as far as I made it.

/doubt I missed anything important
 
GBB
2012-10-07 04:27:48 PM

FloydA: I remember being addicted.

It was as though all the lights were on, but nobody was home. I felt as though someone else was controlling my mind; it didn't belong to me any more. The sweating and shaking were nearly constant reminders. I was unable to eat or sleep and breathing was difficult due to a tightness in my throat. I was deeply into it. I kept telling myself that I had built up an immunity, and I really wanted to believe that, but it would be more accurate to say that I constantly wanted more. I could see all of the classic signs, but it was as though I had lost the ability to read. I started having heart palpitations, and I seemed to be moving at a different speed from everyone else. I couldn't be saved, and I longed for oblivion. As long as there was any left, I would be happy to take it. Like I said, I wanted to believe that I was immune to the stuff, oh yeah, but in the end I finally had to face it. Also, for some reason, there were a bunch of women wearing too much makeup and playing guitars.


But, you didn't grind your teeth. Interesting.
 
2012-10-07 04:28:14 PM
Oh for farks sake...

All my adult friends have successfully stopped smoking weed. Not all of them have been successful with cigs. Most have been successful at giving up alcohol if necessary.

My wife works with special populations that are very likely to be using drugs and alcohol heavily. Pot, not a problem to kick, alchohol is very difficult, meth is practically impossible according to her data (which she does keep). Heroine is almost as tough as meth, and cocaine is harder than alcohol but less difficult than meth and heroine.

Is it that time of the year for false information about marijuana again?
 
2012-10-07 04:29:02 PM
Having just smoked a big fattie, that cold turkey is sounding pretty damned good right about now...
 
2012-10-07 04:29:13 PM
What is this? Salon taking a day off and posting squishy stories from the slush pile? Nevermind.
 
2012-10-07 04:30:28 PM
"continue reading".....no thank you.
 
2012-10-07 04:30:46 PM

Krymson Tyde: eurotrader: Krymson Tyde: I used to smoke cigarettes; quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
I used to smoke a lot of marijuana (2-3 oz/week) then I took a job where random drug tests were a possibility; I stopped smoking with no side effects.

Cheap ditch weed 2-3 oz a week or over sharing? I have met a few people that smoke a lot of weed and if that was decent quality you would have interesting body chemistry or you never left the sofa except for snacks

In fairness it was a team effort with a friend, but I held a full time job at the time. Smoking was evenings and weekends. All evening and all weekend.
If I was at home I was vegetating.


I never really got the lazy thing. I routinely do laundry, cook, clean etc. while baked. Never "work work" as that entails a higher level of mental acuity, but any repetitive task is much more enjoyable that way.

///No power tools though.
 
2012-10-07 04:31:21 PM

iaazathot: Oh for farks sake...

All my adult friends have successfully stopped smoking weed. Not all of them have been successful with cigs. Most have been successful at giving up alcohol if necessary.

My wife works with special populations that are very likely to be using drugs and alcohol heavily. Pot, not a problem to kick, alchohol is very difficult, meth is practically impossible according to her data (which she does keep). Heroine is almost as tough as meth, and cocaine is harder than alcohol but less difficult than meth and heroine.

Is it that time of the year for false information about marijuana again?


By "heroine", do you mean Wonder Woman or Invisible Woman?
 
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