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(The Citizen)   Lunch lady in hot water for cooking food that's 'too good' for the students   (thelocal.se) divider line 28
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2012-10-07 01:21:19 PM
5 votes:
Dash: You always say 'Do your best', but you don't really mean it. Why can't I do the best that I can do?
Helen: Right now, honey, the world just wants us to fit in, and to fit in, we gotta be like everyone else.
Dash: But Dad always said our powers were nothing to be ashamed of, our powers made us special.
Helen: Everyone's special, Dash.
Dash: [muttering] Which is another way of saying no one is.
2012-10-07 01:22:32 PM
4 votes:
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
2012-10-07 01:35:08 PM
3 votes:
"A menu has been developed... It is about making a collective effort on quality, to improve school meals overall and to try and ensure everyone does the same," Katarina Lindberg, head of the unit responsible for the school diet scheme, told the local Falukuriren newspaper.

The bureaucrats demand that everyone respect their authoritah. They'll tell you it's about the healthy diet "directive", but if you've ever read a government directive it should be obvious that it's possible to violate the letter of the law while respecting its spirit. This woman's lunches might be every bit as healthy (or more) than what the government demands. But if the directive says she should buy bread from a particular store and she bakes the same product herself, well then she's out of compliance, and we can't have non compliance. For the children's health.
2012-10-07 01:28:17 PM
3 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: (TFA doesn't say exactly how she is out of compliance),


I'm wondering about this part too, since it says the changes to the lunches are to reduce the variety of fruits & vegetables and to go from handmade bread to store-bought bread.

I am wondering if the nutritional guidelines are essentially a quiet subsidy to a local food supplier and she was providing lunches without paying off a contractor.
2012-10-07 01:21:18 PM
3 votes:
What is this, Harrison Bergeron?
2012-10-07 12:13:06 PM
3 votes:

EnviroDude: Because raising the stands of the other schools is not an option.

Gotta love our progressive government schools


psst....this in sweden
2012-10-07 04:46:24 PM
2 votes:
I'm a liberal, the libbiest lib that ever libbed. I'm progressive. A liberal, a left-winger. Democrat. While I wouldn't call myself a socialist, I'm sure by the standards of some people here I'd count since I'm a little to the left of President Obama.

That being said, this isn't a liberal/conservative thing. This isn't "liberal thinking" or "socialist ideology". This is bureaucracy, plain and simple. Bureaucratic behavior knows no partisan lines.

A bureaucrat somewhere in Sweden had an inflexible, rigid dietary system. A local lunch lady decided to improve upon it, apparently doing so substantially while remaining under budget. She ran afoul of the bureaucrats in the process, although the parents and students loved it.

Don't call that liberal. Don't call that conservative.

It's bureaucracy, plain and simple. They've got it, we've got it too.

Imagine the uproar if a cafeteria worker at a school in the US started managing to whip up gourmet eats (or at least way better than the Sysco's finest HFCS & sodium barrage typical of school lunches) and serve them, especially if she was making things herself and not buying from the vendors they had contracts with? You think vendors wouldn't throw a fit at the money they are losing? You think some "zero tolerance" bureaucrat wouldn't get pissy that the school food wasn't anything like the other schools in the area and wasn't in accordance with some obscure bureaucratic guideline?

Don't drag partisan politics into something that is just plain human stupidity.

You think that the school board wouldn't be in a
2012-10-07 01:17:30 PM
2 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: Moreover, the food on offer at the school doesn't comply with the directives of a local healthy diet scheme which was initiated in 2011

But it's mostly about being unfair to students at other schools. Uh huh.


She's offering 15 different vegetables & they're saying that's not healthy? Seriously, WTF?
2012-10-07 12:32:37 PM
2 votes:
And here I thought the Handicapper General was satire.
2012-10-08 01:23:20 AM
1 votes:

Fissile: For those of you going off on the usual derp about socialism, consider the following:

Until recently the kiddies in UK public schools had socialism as concerns school lunches, then the schools were taken over by Bain Capital types who decided to go all Ayn Rand on their entitled, little, parasite, public school asses by privatizing school lunch programs. This is what a "free market" school lunch looked like when the English versions of the Koch brothers decided to give the kiddies a lesson in capitalism.

[ballibeg.smugmug.com image 600x450] 

Well a little UK school girl started a blog called Never Seconds describing her school lunches. The blog went viral, and after threatening the little girl and her parents, the brave free market heroes of the UK school system relented and actually made improvements. 

Compare and contrast this with the "Surrender Monkeys" who always had socialism when it comes to feeding school kids.

France's Gourmet School Lunches

Suck it, Randoids.


Imagine the response in the USA if this were on the lunch menu:

Cantaloupe
Fish filet with sautéed organic vegetables and organic potatoes
Dairy: Organic camembert
Dessert: Organic compote (fruit sauce)

The kids would throw half the food away and go crying to the papers that the administration was not feeding them enough.
2012-10-07 07:16:21 PM
1 votes:
The funny thing (well, not as funny as it is tragic) is that all of you are crying about how unfair it is that she has to stop because it's "unfair to the other schools," yet when your "President" Obummer wants to do the same thing with wealth, all of a sudden he walks on water.
2012-10-07 04:32:05 PM
1 votes:
For those of you going off on the usual derp about socialism, consider the following:

Until recently the kiddies in UK public schools had socialism as concerns school lunches, then the schools were taken over by Bain Capital types who decided to go all Ayn Rand on their entitled, little, parasite, public school asses by privatizing school lunch programs. This is what a "free market" school lunch looked like when the English versions of the Koch brothers decided to give the kiddies a lesson in capitalism.

ballibeg.smugmug.com 

Well a little UK school girl started a blog called Never Seconds describing her school lunches. The blog went viral, and after threatening the little girl and her parents, the brave free market heroes of the UK school system relented and actually made improvements. 

Compare and contrast this with the "Surrender Monkeys" who always had socialism when it comes to feeding school kids.

France's Gourmet School Lunches

Suck it, Randoids.
2012-10-07 03:39:49 PM
1 votes:

stiletto_the_wise: Taxpayers purchase civilized society from the public.


In that case, why does civilized society cost so much more for some people then others?

One group pays a ton for civilization and receives the same poor results as the people pay very little. It's reasonable at some point to question the value they get for their money. It's also reasonable to question the disparity in amounts paid for civilized society.

If I pay $100 for a cheeseburger and get the same burger that you do for only $1, I'm going to have a real problem with that, esp. if the burger is crap. If I demand that you give me a better burger or refund some of my money so I can go somewhere else, that's not a handout nor is it unreasonable.
2012-10-07 02:35:28 PM
1 votes:
Is this an appropriate place to point out that European libs think that our good old American libs are right wing kooks?

Meh; it's not like it matters. If they want their kids to eat the exact same lunch, wear the exact same shirts and goose step in time; good for them. I wish them well.

I like consistency as much as the next person; but, seriously? She was cooking food that was too good and got into trouble?

I applaud the idea of a level field for all; but, isn't this taking it a bit too far?

/ just saying
2012-10-07 02:15:43 PM
1 votes:

D2theMcV: Marcus Aurelius: And here I thought the Handicapper General was satire.

Came to make a Harrison Bergeron statement. Glad to see my work here has already been done.


Blah, blah, blah. Two extremes, neither good. Still, I'd rather see enforced equality than what we have in the USA today: systematic inequality. Live in a good school district? Your kid is on track for Harvard. Live in a bad one? Probably jail. Same kid, different neighborhood. Because rich white people draw school district boundaries to make sure those poor or non-white people are carved out of their schools. It's almost as bad as gerrymandering.
2012-10-07 02:03:58 PM
1 votes:
She should be put in charge of all the school cafeterias. But instead they hobble her.



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OK, I'm here. Now what?
2012-10-07 01:58:35 PM
1 votes:

EnviroDude: Mugato: EnviroDude: Mugato: EnviroDude: Because raising the stands of the other schools is not an option.

Gotta love our progressive government schools

psst....this in sweden

Goes back to retread the article. Will now revise my statement as follows:

/gotta love progressive government schools.

You don't have to revise anything. It's not like anyone thought you had any credibility to begin with.

As there are towns in the USA named "Sweden", it is entirely likely that this could have happened in the USA.

And having a socialist government lower standards is par for the course.

/wouldn't be shocked to see this happen here in the US. but after Michele got through with the lunch programs here, knows that there aren't any schools with a good lunch. LOL


I take it must believe in evolution, because your DERP sure does. Rarely have I seen somebody shift their argument to fit their original nonsense post. Man up, admit you were wrong in your original post. Don't hide behind, "wouldn't be shocked to see this happen here in the US. but after Michele got through with the lunch programs here, knows that there aren't any schools with a good lunch". Seems to me both women are for healthy choices for lunch in schools. Honestly, do you have a problem with healthy food being served at school?
2012-10-07 01:52:50 PM
1 votes:
I'd say let her be, damn it.
2012-10-07 01:42:43 PM
1 votes:
images.buddytv.com
2012-10-07 01:37:44 PM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: And here I thought the Handicapper General was satire.


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"You still walk 0.123 mph faster than average. Let's add another 100lbs to your legs."
2012-10-07 01:37:43 PM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: And here I thought the Handicapper General was satire.


Came to make a Harrison Bergeron statement. Glad to see my work here has already been done.
2012-10-07 01:37:11 PM
1 votes:
And those students who participate in sports who are stronger than other kids will wear weights on their ankles, wrists, and around their necks to make the sports "most fair"
2012-10-07 01:14:59 PM
1 votes:
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2012-10-07 12:54:05 PM
1 votes:

cman: Personal attacks is unbecoming of you


I'm sorry, I don't think anyone would disagree with me.
2012-10-07 12:34:53 PM
1 votes:

EnviroDude: Mugato: EnviroDude: Because raising the stands of the other schools is not an option.

Gotta love our progressive government schools

psst....this in sweden

Goes back to retread the article. Will now revise my statement as follows:

/gotta love progressive government schools.


You don't have to revise anything. It's not like anyone thought you had any credibility to begin with.
2012-10-07 12:33:10 PM
1 votes:
ITS NOT FAIR
2012-10-07 12:26:10 PM
1 votes:

Mugato: EnviroDude: Because raising the stands of the other schools is not an option.

Gotta love our progressive government schools

psst....this in sweden


Goes back to retread the article. Will now revise my statement as follows:

/gotta love progressive government schools.
2012-10-07 11:51:12 AM
1 votes:
Because raising the stands of the other schools is not an option.

Gotta love our progressive government schools
 
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