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(Daily Mail)   This article from the Daily Fail says Mitt Romney has taken the lead in national polling, according to the "respected Rasmussen Reports"   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 474
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2012-10-07 06:39:31 AM  
I bet Rasmussen's mom respects them.
 
2012-10-07 06:41:55 AM  
I only trust polls that were taken at the White House breakfast nook.
 
2012-10-07 07:00:24 AM  
Journalism 101: if the reporter uses the word "respected" without the prefix "once-" they need to go find themselves a job in public relations instead.
 
2012-10-07 10:26:13 AM  
 
2012-10-07 10:56:09 AM  
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2012-10-07 11:11:46 AM  

aimtastic: Daily Mail Island


Excellent.
 
2012-10-07 11:37:20 AM  
They should ask Al Gore how much it means to have the popular vote lead.
 
2012-10-07 11:51:59 AM  
The media gets to pretend this is a close race, and the republicans get a brief moment of hope. It's nice for them, I guess.
 
2012-10-07 11:52:04 AM  
Dear Fark mods and members: stop submitting, approving and clicking Daily Mail links...

/Thanks
 
2012-10-07 11:52:06 AM  
So basically the poll from a couple days ago that told liberals what they wanted was fine but this poll is bad because it says the opposite.

By the way that would be Rasmussen which can say truthfully that they had the most accurate 2008 presidential poll.
 
2012-10-07 11:52:51 AM  

Girl From The North Country: They should ask Al Gore how much it means to have the popular vote lead.


Romney now up in most swing states but Ohio. Only down one there.
 
2012-10-07 11:53:50 AM  

randomjsa: So basically the poll from a couple days ago that told liberals what they wanted was fine but this poll is bad because it says the opposite.

By the way that would be Rasmussen which can say truthfully that they had the most accurate 2008 presidential poll.


Also most accurate for 2010 elections.
 
2012-10-07 11:53:52 AM  

Wolfy: Dear Fark mods and members: stop submitting, approving and clicking Daily Mail links...

/Thanks


Eh, pretty girls for the Entertainment tab are alright. As long as they stay away from politics.
 
2012-10-07 11:54:27 AM  
Which proves that with enough effort, you can manipulate any poll until you achieve the desired results
 
2012-10-07 11:55:32 AM  
you mean the same Rasmussen Reports that was one of the most accurate for the 2008 election?
Or from the 2004 election? " In 2004, Slate said they "publicly doubted and privately derided Rasmussen" polls because of the methodology. However, after the election, they concluded that Rasmussen's polls were the most accurate."

That one, or another one?
 
2012-10-07 11:55:37 AM  

MyRandomName: Romney now up in most swing states but Ohio. Only down one there.



Based on which polls?
 
2012-10-07 11:57:02 AM  

Wolfy: Dear Fark mods and members: stop submitting, approving and clicking Daily Mail links...

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are you Drew, are you in charge of the content here? why don't you contact them directly vs. posting in the forum?
 
2012-10-07 11:57:43 AM  
To all the poll quoters: Mitt is at 35% on Intrade. Please go buy up a bunch of shares and get Obama down to 55% so I can make a bunch more money by Nov 7th. Thanks.
 
2012-10-07 11:58:40 AM  

MyRandomName: Also most accurate for 2010 elections.



LOL.

Nate Silver in 2010: On Tuesday, polls conducted by the firm Rasmussen Reports - which released more than 100 surveys in the final three weeks of the campaign, including some commissioned under a subsidiary on behalf of Fox News - badly missed the margin in many states, and also exhibited a considerable bias toward Republican candidates. ...Rasmussen's polls were quite biased, overestimating the standing of the Republican candidate by almost 4 points on average

Hmmm, and 4 points is exactly the jump that they just gave Rmoney. What a farking coincidence.
 
2012-10-07 11:59:02 AM  

MyRandomName: Girl From The North Country: They should ask Al Gore how much it means to have the popular vote lead.

Romney now up in most swing states but Ohio. Only down one there.


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2012-10-07 11:59:11 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: MyRandomName: Romney now up in most swing states but Ohio. Only down one there.


Based on which polls?


the left leaning "we ask America" polls.
 
2012-10-07 11:59:29 AM  
Many supporters of President Obama's re-election bid may be underestimating the damage caused by his performance in the debate last week, combined with the gains made by Mr. Romney due to his own performance.
 
2012-10-07 12:00:19 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: MyRandomName: Girl From The North Country: They should ask Al Gore how much it means to have the popular vote lead.

Romney now up in most swing states but Ohio. Only down one there.

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How recently were the state polls conducted?
 
2012-10-07 12:00:31 PM  

aimtastic: Daily Mail Island


Amazing
 
2012-10-07 12:01:37 PM  
Assmunchin' Reports is the Fox News of polling agencies. You could get a survey that states 95% of blacks want the 13th Amendment overturned if you pay Assmunchin' their fee.
 
2012-10-07 12:01:53 PM  

Dimensio: How recently were the state polls conducted?



Someone is pulling state polling out of their asses. He's up just barely in Florida and Virginia. Everywhere else is still in Obama's corner until reliable polls show otherwise.
 
2012-10-07 12:02:09 PM  
I know this thread is completely toxic, because 5 out of 18 posts are highlighted in Troll Gray.
 
2012-10-07 12:02:31 PM  
That reminds me that I have money in my checking account now to spend on Obama merchandise.
 
2012-10-07 12:02:49 PM  
And Nate Silver correctly predicted 49 out or 50 state results in the 2008 election, only missing Indiana by giving it to McCain, and, obviously, correctly predicted the Obama win in the electoral college, which is the only win that matters..

Yet, somehow, the cons have been calling him a fraud since Obama has been his predicted winner all this election cycle.

Funny how that works.
 
2012-10-07 12:02:59 PM  

Dimensio: Many supporters of President Obama's re-election bid may be underestimating the damage caused by his performance in the debate last week, combined with the gains made by Mr. Romney due to his own performance.


That "47%" video is still out there. Romney's debate performance hasn't erased that from the Internet.
 
2012-10-07 12:03:21 PM  

Dimensio: Don't Troll Me Bro!: MyRandomName: Girl From The North Country: They should ask Al Gore how much it means to have the popular vote lead.

Romney now up in most swing states but Ohio. Only down one there.

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How recently were the state polls conducted?


That's the current now-cast, updated last night. It's a conglomerate of state polls ranging up to 7 days, depending on the agency conducting them.
 
2012-10-07 12:03:36 PM  

Dimensio: Many supporters of President Obama's re-election bid may be underestimating the damage caused by his performance in the debate last week, combined with the gains made by Mr. Romney due to his own performance.


I'm mystified that anyone thinks Romney's performance was acceptable, let alone good.
 
2012-10-07 12:03:41 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: shower_in_my_socks: MyRandomName: Romney now up in most swing states but Ohio. Only down one there.


Based on which polls?

the left leaning "we ask America" polls.


Wiki:
"The Illinois Manufacturers' Association owns the for-profit subsidiary Xpress Professional Services, which conducts opinion polls through its polling organization, We Ask America.[25][26] The firm conducts automated polls and has been described as conservative leaning[27] and has received criticism for its methodology.[28][29]"
 
2012-10-07 12:04:21 PM  

BMulligan: I know this thread is completely toxic, because 5 out of 18 posts are highlighted in Troll Gray.


Lulz
 
2012-10-07 12:05:45 PM  

RyogaM: And Nate Silver correctly predicted 49 out or 50 state results in the 2008 election, only missing Indiana by giving it to McCain, and, obviously, correctly predicted the Obama win in the electoral college, which is the only win that matters..

Yet, somehow, the cons have been calling him a fraud since Obama has been his predicted winner all this election cycle.

Funny how that works.


At the time I went to bed the night of the 2010 elections he had also correctly predicted over 390 out of 398 HoR races that had been called.
 
2012-10-07 12:05:46 PM  
Things we can tell from this article:

--Rasmussen has a few more weeks before they start showing accurate results so they're not drummed out as being complete shills for the Republicans.

--Whatever debate victory (that was declared seconds after the debate ended) is now gone for Romney, lasting under twelve hours.

--The lowering of the unemployment rates pretty much destroyed the faux Republican confidence outright, resulting in bullshiat articles that bring up the debate 'victory' (again, that was immediately decided by the same Media that holds down Republicans) as the Republicans scramble madly for any foothold for their lies about the economy doing poorly.

In short, when we start seeing articles like this, the Republicans are trying to spin their way out of something. And that something is that their spin is badly out of date. Apparently their purity tests removed everybody with an ounce of ability and competence from their party.
 
2012-10-07 12:06:01 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Based on which polls?


I'm going to guess these ones.

/NSFBrainCells.
 
2012-10-07 12:06:03 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: MyRandomName: Also most accurate for 2010 elections.


LOL.

Nate Silver in 2010: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Hmmm, and 4 points is exactly the jump that they just gave Rmoney. What a farking coincidence.
vs. all the polls that oversample democrats?


hmmmm, one pollster criticizing another pollster. Go figure...
 
2012-10-07 12:06:04 PM  
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2012-10-07 12:06:32 PM  
Republicans and their forecasts are always so unbiased.

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2012-10-07 12:06:47 PM  
Romney has found the sweet spot. An inverse correlation between truth and popularity is what makes conservatives candidates succeed. The more you lie and the bigger they are, the more popular you get with conservatives. Why? Because they don't live in the same reality as everyone else.

Their glass are so rose-covered trying to return 'Merica to "her former glory days" that they will deny all facts that don't fit their reality. It's making for good entertainment watching desperate cons scrambling for crumbs. Keep clawin', plebs.
 
2012-10-07 12:07:13 PM  
I love watching the cons get all excited. It'll only make election day that much bigger of a blow for them.
 
2012-10-07 12:08:01 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: hmmmm, one pollster criticizing another pollster. Go figure...


Silver isn't a 'pollster'. But you know this.
 
2012-10-07 12:08:16 PM  
What the hell is this crap about Rasmussen being accurate in 2008? Their polls were highly skewed towards McCain until right before the election. Anyone can predict the likely outcome the night before the election, but we aren't there yet and Rasmussen is still saying something completely different than all the other polling agencies. If Rasmussen comes out with a poll on November 4th or 5th saying Romney is ahead, then I'll worry, until then I really don't care what Rasmussen polls report.
 
2012-10-07 12:08:22 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: RyogaM: And Nate Silver correctly predicted 49 out or 50 state results in the 2008 election, only missing Indiana by giving it to McCain, and, obviously, correctly predicted the Obama win in the electoral college, which is the only win that matters..

Yet, somehow, the cons have been calling him a fraud since Obama has been his predicted winner all this election cycle.

Funny how that works.

At the time I went to bed the night of the 2010 elections he had also correctly predicted over 390 out of 398 HoR races that had been called.


Tonight, however, is not the "night of the 2012 elections". Mr. Silver has predicted a significant "bump" for Mr. Romney, though how significant that "bump" will be will not be evident until later this week.
 
2012-10-07 12:08:31 PM  

Alphax: Dimensio: Many supporters of President Obama's re-election bid may be underestimating the damage caused by his performance in the debate last week, combined with the gains made by Mr. Romney due to his own performance.

I'm mystified that anyone thinks Romney's performance was acceptable, let alone good.


They were going to declare victory in the first debate literally no matter what.
 
2012-10-07 12:08:56 PM  
Daily Mail has more hope for Romney becoming President than Romney's political strategist Ed Gillespie.

On This Week with George Stephanopoulos this morning in the middle of rambling on his talking points Gillespie started getting Freudian.

Gillespie stopped saying what they would do when Romney wins the election he started sayin IF they win the election. 

Nate Silvers latest poll numbers do show an incredible hit for the a President.
Obama will still win the Presidency. I am more concerned with the momentum.
The Congress will stay Republican. I was looking for the Presidents popularity to help keep the Senate. This is an incredible election.
 
2012-10-07 12:09:53 PM  
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RIP Blair Rasmussen
 
2012-10-07 12:10:35 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Dimensio: Many supporters of President Obama's re-election bid may be underestimating the damage caused by his performance in the debate last week, combined with the gains made by Mr. Romney due to his own performance.

That "47%" video is still out there. Romney's debate performance hasn't erased that from the Internet.


I've been wondering about that. I remember before the debate when the Obama campaign put out that devastating ad that was essentially just playing the video back. Are they still airing it in swing states (I'm not in a swing state)?

It seems odd that Americans, who were apparently SO outraged at the 47% video that they practically gave the election to Obama in the polls, now appear to be handing their support back to Romney because he out-bullied in a debate.
 
2012-10-07 12:11:10 PM  

Dimensio: Many supporters of President Obama's re-election bid may be underestimating the damage caused by his performance in the debate last week, combined with the gains made by Mr. Romney due to his own performance.


Absolutely. But, Nate Silver continues to give Obama a 80% chance of winning in his forecast and a 90% chance of winning in his Nowcast. The Democrats optimism is still based in reality, whatever the results of the debate.

Yet, Cons wish us to believe we should be in some sort of panic, that the sky is falling, based on one poll, of popular vote, from a polling firm with questionable prior results. And their overwhelmingly irrational response to the new unemployment numbers is just icing on the cake. The Republican optimism at this point is unbelievably irrational.
 
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