heavymetal: You would think we would want to encopurage students in the U.S. to get a good education and go to college. It benefits our entire nation. So why do companies feel it is OK to fleece the Amercian student ot of every penny possible making it harder to get an education?
Mike_LowELL: Courts want to stop people from buying used goods: "RARGH HOW WILL I CONTINUE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT LOW MANUFACTURING GROWTH IF I DON'T BUY EVERYTHING VIA RESALE"Courts want to stop Taxbongo from using the American people: "NO PLEASE GO RIGHT AHEAD RAISE MY TAXES I DON'T NEED THIS MONEY"Never stop on shaming yourselves, stupid libs. Let's just hope they apply this retroactively so we can jail all the poor people.
ZAZ: Here is the question the court has agreed to answer:How do Section 602(a)(1) of the Copyright Act, which prohibits the importation of a work without the authority of the copyright's owner, and Section 109(a) of the Copyright Act, which allows the owner of a copy "lawfully made under this title" to sell or otherwise dispose of the copy without the copyright owner's permission, apply to a copy that was made and legally acquired abroad and then imported into the United States?So stop worrying about your made-in-China lead lollipops. This only affects items acquired overseas.
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: You are magic, my friend. Check my profile. You're on the hall of fame.
Silly Jesus: Who resells stuff? I've never resold anything. If I don't need it anymore I throw it away or give it away./poor people problems
bojon: From the amicus briefs, MPAA and RIAA along with some publishers are the ones who stand to be impacted because they sell product cheaper in other countries.
Grand_Moff_Joseph: dahmers love zombie: This would be unbelievable if upheld. Can you imagine a Honda dealership? "Yeah, we'll give you $2,000 trade-in value for your 2010 Accord.". "WTF?" "OK, don't take our offer -- you're not allowed to sell it at all now".Actually, that may depend on where the car was built. Honda may be a Japanese company, but the car was manufactured here. So, if it's manufactured here, I can sell it again, right?Of course, Honda will then claim that it was somehow NOT made here, but in Japan. Taken to its logical extreme, Honda would be operating here, but claiming that they are not for business purposes. And at that point, one has to ask whether they should be taxed as a domestic firm or not.
AssAsInAssassin: Wow, that's Farked up. At first, I could barely believe an appellate court would side with a foreign interest over an American citizen, in defiance of the well-established case law regarding Fair Use. By what US law does a foreign corporation get its own special anti-constitutional privileges?Then I remembered the last 20 years or so, and went "Ohhhh... Right."/Should have been a follow-up tag. Saw the original story back when.
Grand_Moff_Joseph: Considering that 9/10 items on store shelves in America (including virtually 100% of electronic/technology related products) are made outside the USA, customers here would be unable to resell nearly everything they ever buy.
Deman: When they outlaw selling used belongings, only outlaws will sell used belongings.There will just be a much greater percentage of outlaws, that's all.
cman: There aint no way in hell SCOTUS would overturn the 1908 precedent. That would cause extreme chaos within our country and its economic system. SCOTUS wouldn't dare to do something that drastic
joonyer: In other news, people do what they want.F*ck your corporate plutocracy.And f*ck you too, martid4.
cman: DamnYankees: The case stems from Supap Kirtsaeng's college experience. A native of Thailand, Kirtsaeng came to the U.S. in 1997 to study at Cornell University. When he discovered that his textbooks, produced by Wiley, were substantially cheaper to buy in Thailand than they were in Ithaca, N.Y., he rallied his Thai relatives to buy the books and ship them to him in the U.S.He then sold them on eBay, making upwards of $1.2 million, according to court documents.It's called arbitrage. Good for this kid for figuring it out. The idea that doing this would become illegal, assuming we have a freed trade agreement with the other country, it utterly biatchcakes.If it were a case about pharmaceuticals and chemicals there would be a valid point as those should be held at a higher standard. But books?
Dimensio: My Honda Civic Si was manufactured in Canada, though it was sold to me in the United States which likely would make the "first sale" doctrine applicable to it.
Generation_D: I'll take this as you don't see Scalia, Roberts, Thomas and Alito quite the same way I do. If it screwed everyone over but made corporations more money, Scalia and Thomas will vote for it and twist logic to defend it. Alito and Roberts aren't quite that bad, but both also never found a corporate right that should be denied if an individual's right was being screwed. To sum up: though this is a bizarre thing, I would not at all be surprise if our dear right wing judge contingent said all in on limiting sales to rightsholders alone, and the hell with whomever else. Its kind of what they do. Corporate rights are to be defended, people rights are to be cut into any time its possible.
ZAZ: If the article is accurate, the court could duck the issue by looking to the place of first sale rather than the place of manufacture. Buy textbooks in Thailand, you're a smuggler. Go to Best Buy in New York and buy a camera made in China, you own it.
BMFPitt: In August 2011, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit upheld a lower court's ruling that anything that was manufactured overseas is not subject to the first-sale principle. Only American-made products or "copies manufactured domestically" were.What was their reasoning for pulling that out of their ass?
basemetal: [www.fwdailynews.com image 286x400]Can't resell stuff? Don't like that idea a bit, not one bit.
Lanctwa: The odd thing is that the US government is supporting the publisher, and wants the court of appeals decision to be affirmed.
Gepetto: All Congress needs to do is amend the Copyright Act with two lines of text.
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