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(Major League Baseball)   The ALDS gets underway, Oakland at Detroit in Game 1. Can a reigning Cy Young winner and a Triple Crown slugger hold off the streaking A's? 6:07pm ET, TBS   (mlb.mlb.com) divider line 170
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2012-10-07 01:02:01 AM  

mootmah: And now we have the most exciting thing in baseball. As long as he's got his stuff.


So... that most exciting thing in baseball... you meant a game-tying grand slam in the bottom of the ninth? ;-)
 
2012-10-07 01:02:20 AM  
For a lefty it's gotta be hard to look over at first and see work in the bullpen
 
2012-10-07 01:02:59 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: mootmah: And now we have the most exciting thing in baseball. As long as he's got his stuff.

So... that most exciting thing in baseball... you meant a game-tying grand slam in the bottom of the ninth? ;-)


Watch him when he's on. He's unhittable.
 
2012-10-07 01:03:06 AM  
INFIELD FLY.. AGAIN!
 
2012-10-07 01:03:53 AM  
We've secretly replaced Aroldis Chapman with Henry Rodriguez. Let's see if anyone notices. . . .
 
2012-10-07 01:03:54 AM  
Do you walk posey?

Probably not.
 
2012-10-07 01:04:20 AM  
Hating life right now
 
2012-10-07 01:04:30 AM  
They aren't dead yet.
 
2012-10-07 01:04:30 AM  
Great 9th inning.
 
2012-10-07 01:04:33 AM  
Did all the pitchers get drunk or something after the 8th inning?
 
2012-10-07 01:04:38 AM  
Do you walk posey now that there's a base open?

Again, probably not.
 
2012-10-07 01:04:55 AM  
That's on Hannigan. Blew through his glove.
 
2012-10-07 01:05:42 AM  
There we go.
 
2012-10-07 01:05:51 AM  
That was more exciting than it needed to be. Reds win anyway.
 
2012-10-07 01:05:55 AM  

violentsalvation: They aren't dead yet.


Now they are.
 
2012-10-07 01:07:23 AM  
www.nationalmuseum.af.mil
 
2012-10-07 01:09:54 AM  
Well, that was a better ending than expected.
 
2012-10-07 07:09:43 AM  

Dafatone: ChrisDe: Scruffinator: ChrisDe: Hit & run, not really trying to steal the base.

I know, but with Young on 1st...

Yeah, it's a guarenteed out if the batter misses the pitch.

A little late here, but can anyone explain the point of the hit & run? Specifically, why the runner gets a worse jump an looks back?

Why not just have the runner go for a stolen base jump and if the hitter makes contact, hooray? Is the risk of lining into a double play or popping out without the runner having time to get back actually higher than the risk of the hitter not making contact?


If the manager is competent, he would only hit and run with a batter that is reasonably good at making contact, so the risk of a swing and miss should be kinda low and the batter SHOULD put the ball in play. The runner knows this, so he looks back mainly to see where the ball is.

If there is a pop fly to the right side, the SS could easily still cover the bag and act as if he is either getting a throw from the catcher or getting a throw from another infielder in an attempt to start a DP. Every so often over the course of the season, you do see a play where an alert defender bluffs a base runner into thinking that the ball is in one place while it is actually somewhere else. If the runner didn't look back on the hit and run, it would happen far more often.

As for the jump, I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure that the runner just wants to avoid a PO/CS. It's the batter's job to put the ball in play, so a straight CS is largely on him, not the runner. The point of running there isn't to take second, it's to avoid a double play, open up a hole, and get a running jump - so a great jump isn't particularly necessary.
 
2012-10-07 07:28:06 AM  
Sounds like I missed an exciting late game. Ah well, Reds winning is a good thing for my bracket. See ya guys at Noon!
 
2012-10-08 06:31:54 PM  

Rex_Banner: Dafatone: ChrisDe: Scruffinator: ChrisDe: Hit & run, not really trying to steal the base.

I know, but with Young on 1st...

Yeah, it's a guarenteed out if the batter misses the pitch.

A little late here, but can anyone explain the point of the hit & run? Specifically, why the runner gets a worse jump an looks back?

Why not just have the runner go for a stolen base jump and if the hitter makes contact, hooray? Is the risk of lining into a double play or popping out without the runner having time to get back actually higher than the risk of the hitter not making contact?

If the manager is competent, he would only hit and run with a batter that is reasonably good at making contact, so the risk of a swing and miss should be kinda low and the batter SHOULD put the ball in play. The runner knows this, so he looks back mainly to see where the ball is.

If there is a pop fly to the right side, the SS could easily still cover the bag and act as if he is either getting a throw from the catcher or getting a throw from another infielder in an attempt to start a DP. Every so often over the course of the season, you do see a play where an alert defender bluffs a base runner into thinking that the ball is in one place while it is actually somewhere else. If the runner didn't look back on the hit and run, it would happen far more often.

As for the jump, I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure that the runner just wants to avoid a PO/CS. It's the batter's job to put the ball in play, so a straight CS is largely on him, not the runner. The point of running there isn't to take second, it's to avoid a double play, open up a hole, and get a running jump - so a great jump isn't particularly necessary.


Sure, but (to continue this thread that no one's reading) there still IS a risk of a CS, even if it's the hitter's fault. I get the point of a hit and run when it works, avoiding the DP and opening up a hole for the hitter to hit through, but, it still doesn't seem to outweigh the risks compared to a run and hit (for lack of a better phrase).

Good explanation I heard is that on a hit and run, the guy isn't sliding into 2nd, so he can go 1st to 3rd easily. Makes some sense. Still, bah.
 
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