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2012-10-06 04:56:28 PM  
Went to a Ravens@Redskins night game several years ago and the luxury box level was almost completely empty - a yellow stripe around the middle of the stadium. All these federal government snobs buy the boxes and then don't use them. Plus, walking in from the parking lot you could never tell what team plays there - just FedEX and other corporate advertising everywhere. The stadium is so crappily constructed, if the Redskins ever actually got a crammed rocking crowd, it might crumble apart. And Dan Snyder made the parking situation a complete nightmare with one way in and out. On top of that, the team name is utterly racist and will definitely be changed at some point in the future and the team colors are the exact same colors as McDonald's. Oh yeah, the team sucks and has the worst owner in the league and he's young and not going anywhere in your lifetime. Other than that, there's lots of upside to being a Skins fan.
 
2012-10-06 06:25:55 PM  

Triumph: All these federal government snobs buy the boxes and then don't use them.


Um, you're clearly an idiot. Nobody in the government makes real money, at least not for this area. If you work for the federal government, you're not buying a luxury box. Sorry, ain't happening. Link Link

Triumph: Oh yeah, the team sucks and has the worst owner in the league and he's young and not going anywhere in your lifetime. Other than that, there's lots of upside to being a Skins fan.


We got RGIII, and a real GM. The Cowboys have Tony Romo and Jerry Jones as a GM. You smell like a Cowboys fan, Or even worse, a Ravens fan.
 
2012-10-06 07:00:51 PM  
Wilbon was not surprised.
 
2012-10-06 07:06:23 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Um, you're clearly an idiot. Nobody in the government makes real money, at least not for this area. If you work for the federal government, you're not buying a luxury box. Sorry, ain't happening. Link Link


Redskins luxury boxes are almost all companies that cater to the federal government. Federal defense contractors who give away tickets to pentagon people, etc.
 
2012-10-06 07:13:39 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: We got RGIII, and a real GM.


The Cranky Redskins Fan's Guide to Dan Snyder

/That's your local media's take chief.
 
2012-10-06 07:18:51 PM  

Triumph: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Um, you're clearly an idiot. Nobody in the government makes real money, at least not for this area. If you work for the federal government, you're not buying a luxury box. Sorry, ain't happening. Link Link

Redskins luxury boxes are almost all companies that cater to the federal government. Federal defense contractors who give away tickets to pentagon people, etc.


So, lobbyists then.
 
2012-10-06 07:37:18 PM  

RedPhoenix122: So, lobbyists then.


Yeah - and other assorted parasites who care nothing about the team. You don't notice them as much at Caps or Nats games, which are both teams that clearly work hard to connect to fans, but that ring of yellow at Skins games tells a sorry story. I see it on TV all the time, even in "big" games.
 
2012-10-06 07:46:58 PM  

Triumph: Went to a Ravens@Redskins night game several years ago


Eh, two Maryland teams. Wilbon was talking about DC fans. ;)
 
2012-10-06 07:54:57 PM  
fark off subby.
 
2012-10-06 07:57:27 PM  
michael wilbon is a douche. he may be right in this case, but he's still a douche
 
2012-10-06 08:02:23 PM  
A lot of drama there, especially considering it's male sportswriters we're talking about.
 
2012-10-06 08:10:05 PM  

Triumph: On top of that, the team name is utterly racist and will definitely be changed at some point in the future and the team colors are the exact same colors as McDonald's.


Triumph: /That's your local media's take chief.

 

Hmm...
 
2012-10-06 08:10:07 PM  
Deadspin has this hateful boner for Wilbon. Very weird.

I kinda like Wilbon's schtick, but don't really care.
 
2012-10-06 08:31:28 PM  

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Deadspin has this hateful boner for Wilbon. Very weird.


They have a hateful boner for basically everything at ESPN. It's how the site made it's bones.
 
2012-10-06 08:37:47 PM  

The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Deadspin has this hateful boner for Wilbon. Very weird.

I kinda like Wilbon's schtick, but don't really care.


He's better than cowherd and ole lazy eye
 
2012-10-06 08:41:08 PM  

Triumph: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: We got RGIII, and a real GM.

The Cranky Redskins Fan's Guide to Dan Snyder

/That's your local media's take chief.


What part of "we got a real GM" don't you understand? Since Bruce Allen took over, little Danny's personnel butfarkery hasn't taken place. You're stuck in the Vinny Ceratto era, bro. That McNabb "deal" your link talks about ignores the fact that it was voidable, for reasonable money, after 1 year if the team didn't want McNabb back. Um, he sucked, and it didn't kill us to get rid of him. I'm sorry we gave up that 1 second round pick, but that's life. I"m sure you'll throw out the RGIII trade as evidence that nothing has changed, but guess what: that worked, and it was worth it.

That's evidence that adults, specifically GM Bruce Allen, are in charge and making the decisions. Which exactly what the "article" claims to see no evidence of. Look: Danny being Danny sucks. But it looks to everybody with a head on their shoulders that those days are over, and we're done making cap-killing deals. Soooo.... what was your point again? Oh yeah. You don't have one.


//And you're not my bro.
 
2012-10-06 08:42:08 PM  
Of all the cities with teams in all 4 major sports leagues, I gotta say he is right with Miami coming in a close second, but beautiful weather and topless beaches are a legit excuse. Go to a game and sweat balls and fork out $19.95/ beer or look at titties? Hmmmmm......
 
2012-10-06 08:45:16 PM  
Great trolling, Farker Named For A Hand Puppet. Your football team still reeks of Modell.
 
2012-10-06 08:58:30 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Um, you're clearly an idiot. Nobody in the government makes real money, at least not for this area. If you work for the federal government, you're not buying a luxury box. Sorry, ain't happening. Link Link


Lobbyists, corporations and politicians.
 
2012-10-06 09:05:47 PM  

machoprogrammer: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Um, you're clearly an idiot. Nobody in the government makes real money, at least not for this area. If you work for the federal government, you're not buying a luxury box. Sorry, ain't happening. Link Link

Lobbyists, corporations and politicians.


Ahhh yes, my people. Salt of the earth.
 
2012-10-06 09:06:11 PM  
DC is easily the most transient city in the country - full of journeyman lawyers getting their start. OF COURSE that makes it a lousy sports town. Wilbon had nothing to apologize for except expressing an honest evaluation to some homers who can't handle it.
 
2012-10-06 09:17:44 PM  

steamingpile: The Gordie Howe Hat Trick: Deadspin has this hateful boner for Wilbon. Very weird.

I kinda like Wilbon's schtick, but don't really care.

He's better than cowherd and ole lazy eye


There's some damning with faint praise if I have ever seen it...
 
2012-10-06 09:46:32 PM  

Tanqueray: DC is easily the most transient city in the country - full of journeyman lawyers getting their start. OF COURSE that makes it a lousy sports town. Wilbon had nothing to apologize for except expressing an honest evaluation to some homers who can't handle it.


Wilbon was the same idiot who wrote a column basically saying that Sean Taylor deserved to be murdered. Then when all the facts came in and he could've stepped up and written a column about how all of us sometimes prematurely judge certain situations, he instead doubled down on his initial stupidity and said Sean Taylor still deserved what happened to him.
 
2012-10-06 09:52:04 PM  

Tanqueray: DC is easily the most transient city in the country - full of journeyman lawyers getting their start. OF COURSE that makes it a lousy sports town. Wilbon had nothing to apologize for except expressing an honest evaluation to some homers who can't handle it.


Anybody who remembers John Madden calling playoff games in January at RFK stadium saying "Wow, this stadium is ROCKING," and meaning that the stadium was literally shaking up and down because of the intensity of the fans, knows that you're full of shiat. That is all. DC has been laid low by shiatty teams. We're back. Wilbon can EABOD and die.
 
2012-10-06 09:58:28 PM  
Wilbom is a straightup farkwad
 
2012-10-06 10:03:29 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: DC has been laid low by shiatty teams. We're back


2-2 is back? You're tied with Dallas. And losing tomorrow.

/But at least the Nats are for real
 
2012-10-06 10:14:34 PM  

Tanqueray: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: DC has been laid low by shiatty teams. We're back

2-2 is back? You're tied with Dallas. And losing tomorrow.

/But at least the Nats are for real


When you have a quarterback, you have a chance. We have a quarterback.
 
2012-10-06 10:15:28 PM  

Tanqueray: /But at least the Nats are for real


And the Nats look like they're going to be good for another decade, too. Not to mention the Caps.
 
2012-10-06 10:32:02 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: When you have a quarterback, you have a chance. We have a quarterback.


Ah yes - the Cam Newton strategy. Works every time.
 
2012-10-06 10:45:30 PM  

Tanqueray: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: When you have a quarterback, you have a chance. We have a quarterback.

Ah yes - the Cam Newton strategy. Works every time.


We'll compare 'em at the end of the year. Not a big enough sample size to make any real declarations yet. Or better yet, after year 3.
 
2012-10-06 11:08:08 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Tanqueray: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: When you have a quarterback, you have a chance. We have a quarterback.

Ah yes - the Cam Newton strategy. Works every time.

We'll compare 'em at the end of the year. Not a big enough sample size to make any real declarations yet. Or better yet, after year 3.


Cam is a diva. RG3 isn't. Advantage: Washington.
 
2012-10-06 11:15:35 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Tanqueray: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: When you have a quarterback, you have a chance. We have a quarterback.

Ah yes - the Cam Newton strategy. Works every time.

We'll compare 'em at the end of the year. Not a big enough sample size to make any real declarations yet. Or better yet, after year 3.

Cam is a diva. RG3 isn't. Advantage: Washington.


RG3's played 4 games. Advantage: Come on. We'll know more later.

/I like RG3 a ton, but come on.
 
2012-10-06 11:18:47 PM  
Wilbon's original comments are reasonable and seem decent for someone that has lived in the town for 3 decades. Steinberg attacks him because, as Post sports columnist, it is his mission to defend DC. Meanwhile, Weinstein got all butthurt and felt the need to go personal in his DC defense.

Then, after Wilbon pretty clearly nails both of them with a reasoned response, Steinberg decides to go personal again and bash Wilbon's personal and professional life.

However, for whatever reason, Wilbon is the one admonished for going personal first?
 
2012-10-06 11:19:29 PM  
(Houston == Washington) > Cleveland
 
2012-10-06 11:24:42 PM  
Weird. A lotta Fark names I'm not familiar with posting in here. Not like anyone's familiar with me, since I rarely post. Just not the usual suspects in the sports tab.
 
2012-10-07 12:02:04 AM  
Worst sports towns (according to me):
Miami
Florida in general
San Diego
Atlanta
New Jersey (wherever Continental was)
Phoenix
Houston
DC
 
2012-10-07 12:31:28 AM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: We'll compare 'em at the end of the year. Not a big enough sample size to make any real declarations yet. Or better yet, after year 3.


Agreed. You know what's the funniest part of this whole thing? Being accused of being a town where people don't lose their minds over sports and have bigger things to think about actually ought to be a compliment. Unfortunately, when you replace watching the Redskins Report with watching the McLaughlin Group, you're not getting any smarter.
 
2012-10-07 01:34:16 AM  
The blogger are dicbags. I like Wilbon a lot but would be willing to call him out if he was being an ass. This whole thing is annoying to me for some reason.
 
mjg
2012-10-07 02:01:00 AM  
Damn. No F1 thread?
 
2012-10-07 02:14:48 AM  

TheJoe03: Worst sports towns (according to me):
Miami
Florida in general
San Diego
Atlanta
New Jersey (wherever Continental was)
Phoenix
Houston
DC


DC is a lot worse than all except Miami, then San diego and a long gap till Atlanta. And if its football Atlanta always sells more than the dolphins/sucaneers since Miami has lost their allure.
 
2012-10-07 08:53:32 AM  

bulldg4life: Wilbon's original comments are reasonable and seem decent for someone that has lived in the town for 3 decades. Steinberg attacks him because, as Post sports columnist, it is his mission to defend DC. Meanwhile, Weinstein got all butthurt and felt the need to go personal in his DC defense.

Then, after Wilbon pretty clearly nails both of them with a reasoned response, Steinberg decides to go personal again and bash Wilbon's personal and professional life.

However, for whatever reason, Wilbon is the one admonished for going personal first?



Funny, Wilbon realized that HE was in the wrong for escalating the attacks and making it personal. He himself acknowledged as much in his apology. Yet somehow you see it differently. Amazing. You should probably reach out to Wilbon and share your knowledge of the situation with him.
 
2012-10-07 09:07:55 AM  
Wilbon is right. DC is a terrible sports town full of transients and front runners. Of course when the Redskins were good 20 years ago, DC sports fans damnable near lost their minds. It will be the same if the 'Skins ever overcome the Snyder issue and get good again. At least RGIII has made them entertaining to watch for the first time since Gibbs left the first time round.

The Caps do a good job with promotion, rocking the red, Ovechkin and winning games (except playoff games).

The Nationals look like a legit division contender for a few years with their rotation.

The Wizards, well even Pittsburgh has the Pirates...
 
2012-10-07 09:29:34 AM  
I love PTI. It's the best thing since G\Fos Sports canceled Sportwriters ON TV
 
2012-10-07 10:34:54 AM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Triumph: All these federal government snobs buy the boxes and then don't use them.

Um, you're clearly an idiot. Nobody in the government makes real money, at least not for this area. If you work for the federal government, you're not buying a luxury box. Sorry, ain't happening. Link Link

Triumph: Oh yeah, the team sucks and has the worst owner in the league and he's young and not going anywhere in your lifetime. Other than that, there's lots of upside to being a Skins fan.

We got RGIII, and a real GM. The Cowboys have Tony Romo and Jerry Jones as a GM. You smell like a Cowboys fan, Or even worse, a Ravens fan.


Government contractors are the $600 hammer of today.
 
2012-10-07 11:12:08 AM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: We got RGIII, and a real GM. The Cowboys have Tony Romo and Jerry Jones as a GM.


I will give you the advantage of GM but Romo's biggest problem is the fact his surrounding team sucks, when Dez Bryant is your star receiver you have serious issues since hes been horrible for years now.

LucklessWonder: The Nationals look like a legit division contender for a few years with their rotation.


I still dont get this, you have a few pitchers on their team that are having career years but are usually average or worse, its not like they got suddenly better in one year, most will revert back to their suckiness in a year or so, maybe sooner since inexperience and pressure gets to guys in the playoffs.
 
2012-10-07 11:32:30 AM  

steamingpile: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: We got RGIII, and a real GM. The Cowboys have Tony Romo and Jerry Jones as a GM.

I will give you the advantage of GM but Romo's biggest problem is the fact his surrounding team sucks, when Dez Bryant is your star receiver you have serious issues since hes been horrible for years now.

LucklessWonder: The Nationals look like a legit division contender for a few years with their rotation.

I still dont get this, you have a few pitchers on their team that are having career years but are usually average or worse, its not like they got suddenly better in one year, most will revert back to their suckiness in a year or so, maybe sooner since inexperience and pressure gets to guys in the playoffs.


Er, who would that be?

Zimmermann, Gio, and Strasberg are all legit top end pitchers. Edwin Jackson overachieved some, sure. Clippard's been lights out in the pen for a while now and Storen looks like he will be for a long time.

Then their lineup is for the most part very young. I'll totally agree that Adam Laroche probably doesn't repeat this season.

But for the most part, the rest of the NL East should be worried. Which kinda sucks.
 
2012-10-07 11:43:45 AM  

Dafatone: Er, who would that be?


I am referring mainly to their bullpen, which is really important today.

But I never give young pitchers the guarantee they will do it every year, there have been numerous guys who have come out and done well for a year or two then fizzled out, even recently guys have fell off the edge of the world after pitching lights out.
 
2012-10-07 11:49:28 AM  

Dafatone: steamingpile: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: We got RGIII, and a real GM. The Cowboys have Tony Romo and Jerry Jones as a GM.

I will give you the advantage of GM but Romo's biggest problem is the fact his surrounding team sucks, when Dez Bryant is your star receiver you have serious issues since hes been horrible for years now.

LucklessWonder: The Nationals look like a legit division contender for a few years with their rotation.

I still dont get this, you have a few pitchers on their team that are having career years but are usually average or worse, its not like they got suddenly better in one year, most will revert back to their suckiness in a year or so, maybe sooner since inexperience and pressure gets to guys in the playoffs.

Er, who would that be?

Zimmermann, Gio, and Strasberg are all legit top end pitchers. Edwin Jackson overachieved some, sure. Clippard's been lights out in the pen for a while now and Storen looks like he will be for a long time.

Then their lineup is for the most part very young. I'll totally agree that Adam Laroche probably doesn't repeat this season.

But for the most part, the rest of the NL East should be worried. Which kinda sucks.


This. E-Jax only had 10 wins, so he's actually had better years. Detweiler, their #5, overperformed, but he's a lefty that throws 95 with movement and was taken 7th overall a few years ago. Big things have been expected of him for a while now, since he has top of the rotation stuff. And they have lots more big arms down in their farm system. The rest of the league would do well to pay attention (this goes more to the fans; the league knows damn well how good the Nats look for the foreseeable future.)
 
2012-10-07 12:16:20 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: This. E-Jax only had 10 wins, so he's actually had better years. Detweiler, their #5, overperformed, but he's a lefty that throws 95 with movement and was taken 7th overall a few years ago. Big things have been expected of him for a while now, since he has top of the rotation stuff. And they have lots more big arms down in their farm system. The rest of the league would do well to pay attention (this goes more to the fans; the league knows damn well how good the Nats look for the foreseeable future.)


The point is that a few arent very far removed from 4 era seasons or get hot/cold years. Sometimes teams/players have good years but then cant repeat, it happens all the time if you follow the game for a long time, if they do it again next year then we can start being afraid, until then just enjoy this one year.

The bigger question is how much is the cap on salaries? They are owned by a corporation who are notorious for chopping salaries of teams, the braves come to mind when time warner bout turner, now with liberty media being the same way we dont know what will happen and I think a couple of pitchers are up for arbitration along with Gio's salary starting to vest up to the 12-15 million range.
 
2012-10-07 12:56:44 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Not to mention the Caps.


Are you freaking high? The Human Ego known as Ovechkin will throw some sort of hissy fit and want out (hopefully to the KHL). They can't keep a decent head coach behind the bench, and the ones with somewhat succeed would rather go back and to the OHL. And I haven't even started talking about their crappy D men or their goalie graveyard.

The Caps will be fighting for the #1 draft pick within the next five years, guaranteed. 

/I miss the NHL
 
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