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(Politic365)   Suburban restaurant chains, seeing dinner traffic erode due to recession and widespread foodie mockery, make renewed effort to lure lunch business from beaten-down office workers: "Things like going out to lunch are seen as less risky than before"   (politic365.com) divider line 198
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2012-10-06 09:45:49 PM
Hmmm. I get 20 days vacation, 20 days sick time, 12 days holiday, 2 personal, 8 hours of 'it was snowing really hard this morning.' All paid.


Thank you union!

/runs
 
2012-10-06 09:46:30 PM

Slu: TheGreatGazoo: Slu: xl5150: Slu:
My company requires every employee to take at least two consecutive weeks off every year. We have to certify with HR that we have done it and you need Sr. Executive approval to get the requirement waved. It is nice to know you have the block. Went to Spain last year.

Financial company?

I get 26 days of PTO a year in the US.

Yup - Bank. I get 28 days and I have been here less than 3 years.


20 Vacation, 13 holiday, 2 personal per year. Max of 40 days in the bank for vacation. I already get the week between Christmas and New Years off, and usually take an additional week after that. After that, it's mostly random days through the year to go on short trips or just do stuff around the house or just do nothing.

I'm trying to remember if I can think of a time in the last 3 years where I told someone on my staff they couldn't take a day off and I can't. We're a somewhat small team and I just ask that they check the calendar to make sure that at least one person (even me) is in, otherwise give me as much advance notice as the time you're taking off. Want to take a week off? Let me know a week ahead of time.

/works for a major University that rhymes with Schmarvard
//plus a max of 130 days sick time
 
2012-10-06 09:47:02 PM

not5am: HotIgneous Intruder: I had a Gannett job where we just wore catheters at our desks.

wow, that's a nice perk. we were just given britas.


Saves time on water breaks too, eh?
 
2012-10-06 09:47:54 PM

wildlifer: I earn 16 hours of annual leave per month and 8 hours sick per month. Plus the usual state and federal holidays. Even get a day for my bday.
I have 420 hours of annual and over 600 hours sick banked.
I use my comp time for vacations in stead of leave. Wish I could sell it back.
/govt employee


Use them all up when you're ready to retire and get full pay for a chunk of time after you've said adios to working.
 
2012-10-06 09:48:37 PM
If a company could come to the conclusion they should ditch me after missing me for 2 weeks, I'd leave on my own. Wtf kind of reasoning is that?

"I think I'm kinda useless, so I wanna make sure I keep getting paid for it."
 
2012-10-06 09:50:51 PM
Cheer up, America. When you're unemployed, every day is a vacation!
 
2012-10-06 09:51:55 PM
The restaurants simply need more flair
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-06 09:54:07 PM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

dustman81: People in the US are afraid of taking time off because they're afraid of being put on the cut list if the office is still functioning with them not there.

This. You take one or two days at a time, near a weekend if you work a Monday through Friday job, so you get a whole four days off in a row. (Insert hallelujah chorus here) No one will do your work while you are gone, so your job is secure if you can catch up the day you come back. Also, since the employer doesn't need a reason to fire or demote you (it's called "at-will" employment) most people don't take the chance at taking their entire vacation at once.


That's pretty much the way it has been for most places I've worked. Anyone who actually took two weeks off (consecutively) was put on both lists:

1. The company can function without you for two weeks.
2. You are making so much you can afford to travel.

You may get made redundant for #1, or you simply stop getting raises for #2.

Better to use the vacation days one by one for things like getting errands done or going to the doctor.

Personally, I usually just end up with unused vacation time at the end of the year, because, quite honestly, I don't know what kind of travel I could even afford if I DID take 2 weeks off consecutively.
 
2012-10-06 09:54:21 PM

Jocundry: Hmmm. I get 20 days vacation, 20 days sick time, 12 days holiday, 2 personal, 8 hours of 'it was snowing really hard this morning.' All paid.


Thank you union!

/runs


Oh, I have 20 days of sick time at a time. If I use any sick days, I get them back as long as I work 40 hours. So I could take 20 days sick time and work 40 hours and then get my 20 days back.
 
2012-10-06 09:54:21 PM

Silly Jesus: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

Greece can tell you something about long vacations.


Exactly. Because it's either all or nothing

/the mind of a conservative
 
2012-10-06 09:55:15 PM

xl5150: That will definitely stand out in management's mind the next time a round of layoffs come around.


that sounds lime the kind of company that won't stay in business to long or doesn't plan to grow at all. during a period of slow business and/or given enough time, management will be able to plan a temporary redistribution of the workload while the enployee is gone. just because it ends up working out temporarily doesn't mean that person isn't needed. it shows the rest of the employees can handle a temporary increase in workload. a permanent increase in workload might result increased errors in the long run.
 
2012-10-06 09:55:35 PM

xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.



Just stop posting. Every weekend you get caught up in more lies about your personal life. You don' even run daddies lemonade stand
 
2012-10-06 09:56:57 PM
I would give up all PTO if I could leave the office by 5pm and not work any weekends.
 
2012-10-06 09:57:29 PM
If you give me vacation days, I'm going to use them all in the year. The same with sick days. I haven't gotten axed because of it yet. If you don't want your employees to use them, don't give them out.
 
2012-10-06 09:57:44 PM

unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.


And the reasonable half of us are trying to stop the other half from destroying what's left of our unions. Of course, the people that will get farked the hardest right of the bat are the ones siding with the GOP and screeching about how unions are the devil.

We are a stupid bunch.

You start with 2 weeks/year where I work, and people think that's good. I think it goes to 3 weeks after maybe 7 years. I take it 2 days at a time to extend my weekends. And what's funny is management biatches about how often I take trips. However, if I ask for a full week off they biatch about how that's going to negatively impact my project timelines. Of course, we've got a division in Europe where people take entire months off at a time, and leave nothing but messages like "I'm on vacation. I'll be back __/__/____. Contact ________ if it can't wait." Things don't seem to fall apart over there.
 
2012-10-06 09:59:03 PM

Xanlexian: xl5150: Over_Zealously_Apathetic: Just shows me his boss is nonessential. Hopefully executive management realizes this and fires him.

Not quite. I would venture to guess that a boss is harder to replace than a worker-monkey.

Doesn't sound like the boss needs to be replaced at all. Sounds like a non-essential position.



Don't even bother. That troll has been caught in more lies than Romney. He's just a grunt who wishes he was the ceo and blindly worships authority
 
2012-10-06 09:59:36 PM

xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.


Yeah, like sysadmins. If the servers don't fail when they're gone for more than a few days then you really don't need 'em. The sysadmins that are always working around the clock to fix crashes, keep those since they work harder.
 
2012-10-06 10:01:32 PM
Jesus, there are still people afraid of losing their jobs or not getting a promotion because they go out to eat lunch? Cripes, where do you poor souls work and WHY do you still work under those conditions???
 
2012-10-06 10:02:16 PM

aerojockey: most Americans blow risk of retaliation in the workplace way out of proportion.


"Right to Work"/At-will employment means most people have zero job security.

Bad job market means that losing your job means it's next to impossible to get one to replace it.

Crap economy means most people don't have enough money on hand to support them without a job for any real length of time.

Of course people are going to be scared shiatless of retaliation for taking vacation time. The storm of lousy workers rights in the US, with a bad economy on top of that means the workers are exploited by the employers.

All the while we have politicians up there crooning on and on about how "Job Creators" are good virtuous people that power the economy. . .and all they give a fark about is how to make more money by probably firing people, outsourcing to India and China, and cutting wages and benefits.
 
2012-10-06 10:02:37 PM

FormlessOne: I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but there are companies here in the United States that do, in fact, limit bathroom breaks to 1 per day - 15 minutes total - and that any other breaks you may need are deducted from your paid time. I know, I worked one of those jobs, years ago. You had to punch out & in any time you stepped away from your station, for any r ...


that sounds like a labor law violation. you're supposed to get paid 30 minute break for lunch for 8 hours of work. there's alot of sweat shopish operations that operate like this, betting the people they hire won't know labor laws.
 
2012-10-06 10:03:03 PM
www.luminomagazine.com

"Yeaaah... two weeks might be a bit much."
 
2012-10-06 10:03:35 PM

not5am: xl5150: That will definitely stand out in management's mind the next time a round of layoffs come around.

that sounds lime the kind of company that won't stay in business to long or doesn't plan to grow at all. during a period of slow business and/or given enough time, management will be able to plan a temporary redistribution of the workload while the enployee is gone. just because it ends up working out temporarily doesn't mean that person isn't needed. it shows the rest of the employees can handle a temporary increase in workload. a permanent increase in workload might result increased errors in the long run.


Reminds me of when the MN state gov shut down for a day. Then we had to listen to people scream about how it isn't needed.... See, look.... They shut down and it wasn't even a big deal.

In other news I didn't eat breakfast this morning, and I feel fine. I guess food is a waste of money.
 
2012-10-06 10:04:57 PM

xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.


Not sure if trolling... or a shiathead.
 
2012-10-06 10:05:02 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

It's not just sad. It's sick and pretty farking stupid.


It's stories & threads like this that make so glad I'm unemployably nuts. It'd tough being broke all the time but at least the only person driving me crazy is me.

I read an article about how you can tune down and eventually eliminate hearing voices by negotiating with them. they just tell me "Shut up fool!" about 37,000 times. It's too bad I can't go on strike.

Then I get an earworm like the "wet" sax solo from "Money." For a week. That listening to it only reinforces.

But at least I don't have to wear a catheter at my desk. Yet.


/Simple: the voices dictate what I post here.
 
2012-10-06 10:05:43 PM

czei:
Yeah, like sysadmins. If the servers don't fail when they're gone for more than a few days then you really don't need 'em. The sysadmins that are always working around the clock to fix crashes, keep those since they work harder.


This is what professional managers actually believe.
 
2012-10-06 10:06:37 PM

not5am: FormlessOne: I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but there are companies here in the United States that do, in fact, limit bathroom breaks to 1 per day - 15 minutes total - and that any other breaks you may need are deducted from your paid time. I know, I worked one of those jobs, years ago. You had to punch out & in any time you stepped away from your station, for any r ...

that sounds like a labor law violation. you're supposed to get paid 30 minute break for lunch for 8 hours of work. there's alot of sweat shopish operations that operate like this, betting the people they hire won't know labor laws.


I'd have to check to be sure, but I'm pretty sure it is illegal to prevent employee access to the restroom. That is, you cannot tell people they can only have x amount of time to use the bathroom. Or can only use it at certain times
 
2012-10-06 10:07:35 PM

spentmiles: If you are doing what you love, then you don't need time off. I work with the mentally handicap at a state run facility here in Nevada. Today I gave a forty three year old man enough electric shock therapy to eject three fillings from his mouth. I don't need a vacation.


oh my god that horrible! what kind of sadistic creep are you? i should call the internet police on you right now, so some of those fat guys in pseudo-military uniforms come over there are shoot paintballs at each other until someone gets hospitalized.
 
2012-10-06 10:08:22 PM
seadoo2006:

Jesus, there are still people afraid of losing their jobs or not getting a promotion because they go out to eat lunch? Cripes, where do you poor souls work

Sounds like regular jobs to me. Pick a place at random.


and WHY do you still work under those conditions???

Homeless shelters have bedbugs and poor people smell.
 
2012-10-06 10:09:06 PM

Jocundry: not5am: FormlessOne: I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but there are companies here in the United States that do, in fact, limit bathroom breaks to 1 per day - 15 minutes total - and that any other breaks you may need are deducted from your paid time. I know, I worked one of those jobs, years ago. You had to punch out & in any time you stepped away from your station, for any r ...

that sounds like a labor law violation. you're supposed to get paid 30 minute break for lunch for 8 hours of work. there's alot of sweat shopish operations that operate like this, betting the people they hire won't know labor laws.

I'd have to check to be sure, but I'm pretty sure it is illegal to prevent employee access to the restroom. That is, you cannot tell people they can only have x amount of time to use the bathroom. Or can only use it at certain times


Or *they* can only use it at certain times.

Stupid wine.

Sorry for the long requote. Nook don't allow copy-and-paste.
 
2012-10-06 10:11:22 PM

Enigmamf: Saves time on water breaks too, eh?


saves money on bottled water, lower utility bill, and environmentally friendly!
 
2012-10-06 10:12:31 PM

Enigmamf: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

No, it's not considered a luxury. It's considered career suicide.


Some companies, like the one I work for, don't allow employees consecutive weeks off. We can accrue two week vacations, but we can't take more than 7-10 days at a time off.
 
2012-10-06 10:15:04 PM

The One True TheDavid: seadoo2006:

Jesus, there are still people afraid of losing their jobs or not getting a promotion because they go out to eat lunch? Cripes, where do you poor souls work

Sounds like regular jobs to me. Pick a place at random.


and WHY do you still work under those conditions???

Homeless shelters have bedbugs and poor people smell.


Hmm ... sounds like people just suck. Here in Cleveland you can't go anywhere without seeing about 873878164981476 "Hiring" signs ... why work a job you hate? Seriously ...

/Whole office is flying to Cancun the second week in November for the company trip ... WHOLE OFFICE, as in ALL 24 of us ... we're shutting down for a week like we do every year we turn a profit and enjoying an all-inclusive resort (we're also a 100% profit-sharing corporation).
//3 weeks vacation every year (not including the company trip), 1 week sick time.
///Went out west last year for 2 weeks and my co-workers absorbed my work for that time, just like we all do when someone leaves for vacation
////I sorta feel sorry for people who work jobs where they fear for their employment ...
 
2012-10-06 10:16:14 PM

xl5150: If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs.


I'm guessing nobody works for you for very long?
 
2012-10-06 10:17:02 PM

xl5150: moefuggenbrew: Got denied two days off by my boss, who just got back from 2 months in Sweden.

Then work hard, apply yourself, and become a boss. Your boss went to Sweden because he's the boss, not the worker. Once you've accomplished enough to be in charge you can reward yourself with time off if you deem that you have deserved it. Until then, it's your boss's call.


That's bullshiat. There's people who are wired to be managers and there's people who are wired to be code monkeys. I'm the kinda guy you put in a room with a list of problems to be solved and you shove food under the door once or twice a day and eventually out pops a solution. I don't manage people, I don't do employee reviews, I don't sign time cards, I don't log shiat in 15 minute intervals in time management system, I solve problems.
 
2012-10-06 10:17:30 PM

Silverstaff: aerojockey: most Americans blow risk of retaliation in the workplace way out of proportion.

"Right to Work"/At-will employment means most people have zero job security


Zero legal job security. In reality, your bosses (usually) aren't looking to fire people on the turn of a dime, even if they have a legal right to. In fact it's far more common for management to tolerate bad hiring decisions for awhile because of the cost of hiring and training replacements.

You, and most Americans, are overestimating your chances of losing your jobs, you are seriously overestimating the effect of things like taking a vacation will have on losing your jobs, and the amount you make yourselves miserable trying to hang onto that job is way out of proportion to your actual chances of losing it.
 
2012-10-06 10:18:40 PM

gadian: If you give me vacation days, I'm going to use them all in the year. The same with sick days. I haven't gotten axed because of it yet. If you don't want your employees to use them, don't give them out.


alot of companies require employees to take all their vacation days. merrill lynch requires x days taken by each quarter or the employee is forced to take the unused days.

again, if vacation time is how management determines who to layoff, that company is being run horribly.
 
2012-10-06 10:18:53 PM
So there are people who still don't get the 5150 reference, huh?
 
2012-10-06 10:19:52 PM

aerojockey:

You, and most Americans, are overestimating your chances of losing your jobs, you are seriously overestimating the effect of things like taking a vacation will have on losing your jobs, and the amount you make yourselves miserable trying to hang onto that job is way out of proportion to your actual chances of losing it.


I think it's more that most Americans convince themselves that they are so essential and matter so much that they possibly couldn't take that much time off, lest the whole operation fall apart.
 
2012-10-06 10:20:13 PM

xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.


You must work for a company that has a wonderful management team. Places like yours work tend to have very unhappy workers and high turnover rates. The worker isnt the problem, it's the the "leaders" from the lowest in the chain of command all the way to the top.
 
2012-10-06 10:24:34 PM

My Bologna Has A Maiden Name: Cheer up, America. When you're unemployed, every day is a vacation!


reminds me of a doug stanhope joke/rant about how gov't/people should be working towards zero employment, creating a society in the long term where no one needs to work.
 
2012-10-06 10:24:50 PM

not5am: FormlessOne: I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but there are companies here in the United States that do, in fact, limit bathroom breaks to 1 per day - 15 minutes total - and that any other breaks you may need are deducted from your paid time. I know, I worked one of those jobs, years ago. You had to punch out & in any time you stepped away from your station, for any r ...

that sounds like a labor law violation. you're supposed to get paid 30 minute break for lunch for 8 hours of work. there's alot of sweat shopish operations that operate like this, betting the people they hire won't know labor laws.


My company (again, retail) gets around that little requirement by allowing "anytime" 15 minute breaks - you can take them when you want, but it's your responsibility to monitor yourself. I'll admit, I've been short handed on busy sales days (because we cut hours because sales suck for a quarter, and I'm salaried, so my overtime is free) and simply didn't take breaks because there wasn't time. I do also note that non-smokers seem much less likely to take the breaks than smokers (If I work for 4 hours on a slow day, I don't need a fricking break). I just go out and socialize WITH the smokers.
 
2012-10-06 10:24:59 PM

dustman81: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

People in the US are afraid of taking time off because they're afraid of being put on the cut list if the office is still functioning with them not there.


I had 3 weeks/year at my last job. Most I ever took at once was two weeks. And I warned my boss that about a week of that trip was going to be in an area with no cell coverage or even a land line. (Gotta love a cabin in the woods.) When I got back, my boss jokingly said, "No more two week vacations!" He immediately followed that with, "I'm kidding. I don't want you to think I was being serious. You can always take as much vacation time as you have accrued." I got a few "thank God you're back" comments from other department managers so I actually felt very comfortable going on vacation. :)

Seriously, tho, they were a great company. When I had a family emergency, the response was, "Go. Take all the time you need. If you need anything, let us know. We'll take sick time first, then vacation. When that's gone, we'll figure something out."
 
2012-10-06 10:25:25 PM

steveo1983: xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.

You must work for a company that has a wonderful management team. Places like yours work tend to have very unhappy workers and high turnover rates. The worker isnt the problem, it's the the "leaders" from the lowest in the chain of command all the way to the top.


This is a wonderful post on many levels.
 
2012-10-06 10:26:35 PM

not5am: My Bologna Has A Maiden Name: Cheer up, America. When you're unemployed, every day is a vacation!

reminds me of a doug stanhope joke/rant about how gov't/people should be working towards zero employment, creating a society in the long term where no one needs to work.


sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-10-06 10:26:58 PM

seadoo2006: The One True TheDavid: seadoo2006:

Jesus, there are still people afraid of losing their jobs or not getting a promotion because they go out to eat lunch? Cripes, where do you poor souls work

Sounds like regular jobs to me. Pick a place at random.


and WHY do you still work under those conditions???

Homeless shelters have bedbugs and poor people smell.

Hmm ... sounds like people just suck. Here in Cleveland you can't go anywhere without seeing about 873878164981476 "Hiring" signs ... why work a job you hate? Seriously ...

/Whole office is flying to Cancun the second week in November for the company trip ... WHOLE OFFICE, as in ALL 24 of us ... we're shutting down for a week like we do every year we turn a profit and enjoying an all-inclusive resort (we're also a 100% profit-sharing corporation).
//3 weeks vacation every year (not including the company trip), 1 week sick time.
///Went out west last year for 2 weeks and my co-workers absorbed my work for that time, just like we all do when someone leaves for vacation
////I sorta feel sorry for people who work jobs where they fear for their employment ...


Unless I'm getting paid there's no way I'm spending an extra minute with the farkfaces at work.
 
2012-10-06 10:26:58 PM

xl5150: low.dose: So, let me get this straight, you would hire someone else. "There are a lot of peple out there looking for jobs" But that position you are looking to fill is nonessential, "If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential"

Those are the two possible outcomes that could come to management's attention if someone took a vacation. One of them would be bound to be true.

low.dose: Sure you said that the employee is nonessential, but wouldn't you notice it before that individual took a two week vacation?

In an ideal situation, yes. However, sometimes things like that don't get noticed right away, and taking two weeks off would just bring attention to the fact that you're not needed there. That's why I can't fathom why someone would want to do it. "Hey boss, you don't need me around here and things will go just fine while I'm gone, so I'm gonna take off for two weeks." That will definitely stand out in management's mind the next time a round of layoffs come around.


If you have a good team of workers, a two week vacation should be easy to cover. That doesn't necessarily mean they are nonessential. It means your team can step up their game to temporarily cover them. How does your company hanle LOA's? Do they get fired or laid off after a heart attack or a necessary surgery?
 
2012-10-06 10:30:26 PM
The most I've ever had for paid time off was a week- but you had to work to accumulate it. Therefore, your first year working, you had literally no paid time off. I've worked in IT for ten years now. I've never had a job where I could take more than a day off at once without fearing retaliation, or actually receiving retaliation. This thread is so farking depressing and reminds me how my parents are constantly telling me "just get a good job, just become a manager".
I don't have a choice about picking a 'good' one, any job will do.
t.qkme.me
Every time I freaking call...

One day, I want a job where I can take a whole week off at once. I can't even imagine how cool that would be.
 
2012-10-06 10:31:48 PM

steveo1983: If you have a good team of workers, a two week vacation should be easy to cover. That doesn't necessarily mean they are nonessential. It means your team can step up their game to temporarily cover them. How does your company hanle LOA's? Do they get fired or laid off after a heart attack or a necessary surgery?


I'd bet they wouldn't be able to afford the heart attack care or surgery.
 
2012-10-06 10:32:24 PM

steveo1983: If you have a good team of workers, a two week vacation should be easy to cover. That doesn't necessarily mean they are nonessential. It means your team can step up their game to temporarily cover them. How does your company hanle LOA's? Do they get fired or laid off after a heart attack or a necessary surgery?



He doesn't have a company. he has an office next to his daddy and pretends to run the place. He's already been caught making up lies and blatant trolling when his claim of "self made millionaire" "my grades were so good all the top colleges begged me to go for free" and then another topic "daddy paid for my private schooling." You can see why they don't mix. And instead of running away he keeps coming back to dig a bigger hole. He desperately wants to pretend he's a Carnegie.
 
2012-10-06 10:32:46 PM

fredbox: So there are people who still don't get the 5150 reference, huh?


He's crazy!
 
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