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(Politic365)   Suburban restaurant chains, seeing dinner traffic erode due to recession and widespread foodie mockery, make renewed effort to lure lunch business from beaten-down office workers: "Things like going out to lunch are seen as less risky than before"   (politic365.com) divider line 198
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2012-10-06 05:34:10 PM
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2012-10-06 05:41:13 PM
FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.
 
2012-10-06 05:44:43 PM

unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.


People in the US are afraid of taking time off because they're afraid of being put on the cut list if the office is still functioning with them not there.
 
2012-10-06 08:03:48 PM

unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.


it's way past sad
 
2012-10-06 08:48:18 PM

unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.


dustman81: People in the US are afraid of taking time off because they're afraid of being put on the cut list if the office is still functioning with them not there.


This. You take one or two days at a time, near a weekend if you work a Monday through Friday job, so you get a whole four days off in a row. (Insert hallelujah chorus here) No one will do your work while you are gone, so your job is secure if you can catch up the day you come back. Also, since the employer doesn't need a reason to fire or demote you (it's called "at-will" employment) most people don't take the chance at taking their entire vacation at once.
 
2012-10-06 08:57:05 PM
Over in 1.

Plus, it's not "Foodie" to mock Applebees. Applebees was crap before hipster foodies became cool.
 
2012-10-06 08:59:43 PM

unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.


This is a blatant troll, why feed it?
 
2012-10-06 09:01:17 PM

unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.


Greece can tell you something about long vacations.
 
2012-10-06 09:05:10 PM

unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.


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2012-10-06 09:12:50 PM
unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.


If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.
 
2012-10-06 09:15:58 PM
Really loving my 30 days/year right now. Though I do currently have about 45 in the bank. the free healthcare is pretty cool too.

One day when I'm 40, I'll retire and have to deal with the civilian world and its "benefits." That said, my fiancé is a teacher and gets TONS of time off, but doesn't make a whole lot. Between the two of us, we do OK.
 
2012-10-06 09:17:20 PM
If you are doing what you love, then you don't need time off. I work with the mentally handicap at a state run facility here in Nevada. Today I gave a forty three year old man enough electric shock therapy to eject three fillings from his mouth. I don't need a vacation.
 
2012-10-06 09:20:47 PM

xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.


I'm with ya on this one. And lets not forget bathroom breaks too. If you can't count on your employee to use the bathroom before they leave the house I doubt they have the discipline to to their job properly. In fact, I'm all for reducing or eliminating bathrooms in the workplace in favor of adding in another cubicle or two and increasing production.
 
Slu
2012-10-06 09:21:07 PM

xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.


My company requires every employee to take at least two consecutive weeks off every year. We have to certify with HR that we have done it and you need Sr. Executive approval to get the requirement waved. It is nice to know you have the block. Went to Spain last year.
 
2012-10-06 09:23:06 PM
What.
People still eat out?
 
2012-10-06 09:23:43 PM

unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.


No, it's not considered a luxury. It's considered career suicide.
 
2012-10-06 09:24:26 PM

xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.


10/10 with several bites coming..
 
2012-10-06 09:24:28 PM
Did he just say that the movie Waiting had something to do with the recession? I'm not looking it up but that movie had to come out at least a decade ago.

/great movie though
 
2012-10-06 09:24:40 PM
Le Bomb Suprize: I'm with ya on this one. And lets not forget bathroom breaks too. If you can't count on your employee to use the bathroom before they leave the house I doubt they have the discipline to to their job properly. In fact, I'm all for reducing or eliminating bathrooms in the workplace in favor of adding in another cubicle or two and increasing production.

Now you're being ridiculous. It's hardly reasonable to compare a luxury such as a vacation to a biological function.
 
2012-10-06 09:24:55 PM

xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.


So, let me get this straight, you would hire someone else. "There are a lot of peple out there looking for jobs" But that position you are looking to fill is nonessential, "If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential"

Sure you said that the employee is nonessential, but wouldn't you notice it before that individual took a two week vacation?
 
2012-10-06 09:24:57 PM

Le Bomb Suprize: I'm with ya on this one. And lets not forget bathroom breaks too. If you can't count on your employee to use the bathroom before they leave the house I doubt they have the discipline to to their job properly. In fact, I'm all for reducing or eliminating bathrooms in the workplace in favor of adding in another cubicle or two and increasing production.


I had a Gannett job where we just wore catheters at our desks.
 
2012-10-06 09:25:30 PM
If I'm so valuable that you can't live a week without me, then you should pay me way more.

/I love how the most "important" people spend six weeks in Florida every year and things go on without a hitch.
 
2012-10-06 09:25:57 PM

Slu: xl5150: Slu:
My company requires every employee to take at least two consecutive weeks off every year. We have to certify with HR that we have done it and you need Sr. Executive approval to get the requirement waved. It is nice to know you have the block. Went to Spain last year.


Financial company?

I get 26 days of PTO a year in the US.
 
2012-10-06 09:26:07 PM

xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.


Does nobody working for you take vacations out of state, much less out of the country? Sounds like a great place to work.

/gonnw be gone at least a week or two to take my fiancé to Greece for our honeymoon!
 
2012-10-06 09:26:09 PM
My company has a chef on staff to provide breakfast and lunch ... it's pretty nice.

Also down the street from a very good bbq rest..
 
2012-10-06 09:27:02 PM

unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.


It's not just sad. It's sick and pretty farking stupid.
 
2012-10-06 09:27:44 PM
I don't know anybody afraid of taking alunch or vacation. I just got back from 2 weeks off.
 
2012-10-06 09:28:35 PM

MemeSlave: Over in 1.

Plus, it's not "Foodie" to mock Applebees. Applebees was crap before hipster foodies became cool.


That's a load of crap.
You obviously haven't had their fried chicken salad.
 
Slu
2012-10-06 09:30:56 PM

TheGreatGazoo: Slu: xl5150: Slu:
My company requires every employee to take at least two consecutive weeks off every year. We have to certify with HR that we have done it and you need Sr. Executive approval to get the requirement waved. It is nice to know you have the block. Went to Spain last year.

Financial company?

I get 26 days of PTO a year in the US.


Yup - Bank. I get 28 days and I have been here less than 3 years.
 
2012-10-06 09:31:10 PM
I get 19 days a year. So far in 2012 I have taken 0. Not proud of that fact.
 
2012-10-06 09:31:48 PM

Izunbacol: Really loving my 30 days/year right now. Though I do currently have about 45 in the bank. the free healthcare is pretty cool too.

One day when I'm 40, I'll retire and have to deal with the civilian world and its "benefits." That said, my fiancé is a teacher and gets TONS of time off, but doesn't make a whole lot. Between the two of us, we do OK.


You're familiar with the term, "jinx," right?
 
2012-10-06 09:31:51 PM
I go out for lunch mainly just to leave the office. We have a great Chinese buffet nearby with a huge sushi bar and a tepanyaki grill. It's literally the best Chinese buffet I've ever been to, and they have $6 lunches.

The only chain nearby is Applebees and they're consistently awful.
 
2012-10-06 09:32:31 PM
low.dose: So, let me get this straight, you would hire someone else. "There are a lot of peple out there looking for jobs" But that position you are looking to fill is nonessential, "If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential"

Those are the two possible outcomes that could come to management's attention if someone took a vacation. One of them would be bound to be true.

low.dose: Sure you said that the employee is nonessential, but wouldn't you notice it before that individual took a two week vacation?

In an ideal situation, yes. However, sometimes things like that don't get noticed right away, and taking two weeks off would just bring attention to the fact that you're not needed there. That's why I can't fathom why someone would want to do it. "Hey boss, you don't need me around here and things will go just fine while I'm gone, so I'm gonna take off for two weeks." That will definitely stand out in management's mind the next time a round of layoffs come around.
 
2012-10-06 09:34:13 PM
Got denied two days off by my boss, who just got back from 2 months in Sweden.
 
2012-10-06 09:34:55 PM
The only problem I ever see is places without lunch menus. Your average person doesn't want to spend $20 bucks on lunch.
 
2012-10-06 09:35:40 PM

Enigmamf: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

No, it's not considered a luxury. It's considered career suicide.


You see, the rumors about overworked American workers are, indeed, true - when you can hire 3 developers in Bangalore for the price of a single developer in the United States, you have to figure out how to get your money's worth here

Le Bomb Suprize: xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.

I'm with ya on this one. And lets not forget bathroom breaks too. If you can't count on your employee to use the bathroom before they leave the house I doubt they have the discipline to to their job properly. In fact, I'm all for reducing or eliminating bathrooms in the workplace in favor of adding in another cubicle or two and increasing production.


I know you're trying to be sarcastic, but there are companies here in the United States that do, in fact, limit bathroom breaks to 1 per day - 15 minutes total - and that any other breaks you may need are deducted from your paid time. I know, I worked one of those jobs, years ago. You had to punch out & in any time you stepped away from your station, for any reason.

See, here in the United States, your employer doesn't give a rat's ass about you - just what you can do for them. The lower you are in the market food chain, the less they have to care - if they could get away with pulling a Foxconn here, you'd see half the companies in America line up to take the early adopter seminar.
 
2012-10-06 09:36:08 PM
moefuggenbrew: Got denied two days off by my boss, who just got back from 2 months in Sweden.

Then work hard, apply yourself, and become a boss. Your boss went to Sweden because he's the boss, not the worker. Once you've accomplished enough to be in charge you can reward yourself with time off if you deem that you have deserved it. Until then, it's your boss's call.
 
2012-10-06 09:36:22 PM

dustman81: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

People in the US are afraid of taking time off because they're afraid of being put on the cut list if the office is still functioning with them not there.


Yep. I'm not afraid of it myself because A. almost no one can do my job as well as I can, and B. even if they could, most Americans blow risk of retaliation in the workplace way out of proportion. So I happily take weeks off whenever I want, and if I'm out of paid time I'll just take unpaid time.

I believe B is a trait Americans pick up in our school system (which tries to crush out all questioning of authority), which is why it might not be seen in other countries as much. I usually roll my eyes when people generalize about "Americans" but our schools really are more soul-crushing than in other countries, especially in the early grades.
 
2012-10-06 09:37:16 PM

MugzyBrown: I don't know anybody afraid of taking alunch or vacation. I just got back from 2 weeks off.


This. Boss comp'd me two weeks PTO when my first born arrived, then gave me another week in July for putting in some long hours over the spring. Finally burned some actual PTO when I another week in September, and I plan on doing so again in December. Boss encourages all of this for all of us because he realizes stressed out unhappy people are unproductive people.

Nothing burns down while I'm gone because I'm relatively competent, and work with a staff of relatively competent people. If I didn't have my shiat together to the point where I COULD take off without worry, then I'm not doing my job.

/Yes, I work in IT
//Last job was the same way. Averaged 6 weeks off a year, most of it off the books.
///Comp time FTW
 
2012-10-06 09:39:49 PM

xl5150: moefuggenbrew: Got denied two days off by my boss, who just got back from 2 months in Sweden.

Then work hard, apply yourself, and become a boss. Your boss went to Sweden because he's the boss, not the worker. Once you've accomplished enough to be in charge you can reward yourself with time off if you deem that you have deserved it. Until then, it's your boss's call.


Just shows me his boss is nonessential. Hopefully executive management realizes this and fires him.
 
2012-10-06 09:40:05 PM

Slu: xl5150: unyon: FTFA: Nobody expects two week vacations anymore

Really? Is this now considered a luxury in the US? If so, that's pretty sad.

If someone was working for me and took two weeks off all at once, I would be sure to get rid of them at the next round of layoffs. If they're going to disappear for two weeks and leave the rest of us hanging, then that shows they're not devoted to the team and they can't be counted on. There are a lot of people out there looking for jobs and if someone isn't serious about their job it isn't hard to find someone who would take it seriously. If they take off for two weeks and things go smoothly while they're gone, then it's an indication that they're not that essential and there is no reason for them to be on the payroll since we can function just fine without them.

My company requires every employee to take at least two consecutive weeks off every year. We have to certify with HR that we have done it and you need Sr. Executive approval to get the requirement waved. It is nice to know you have the block. Went to Spain last year.


That is an audit requirement in financial companies. Especially if you handle funds directly.
 
2012-10-06 09:40:55 PM

xl5150: moefuggenbrew: Got denied two days off by my boss, who just got back from 2 months in Sweden.

Then work hard, apply yourself, and become a boss. Your boss went to Sweden because he's the boss, not the worker. Once you've accomplished enough to be in charge you can reward yourself with time off if you deem that you have deserved it. Until then, it's your boss's call.


I vote shoot the farker.
 
2012-10-06 09:41:07 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: I had a Gannett job where we just wore catheters at our desks.


wow, that's a nice perk. we were just given britas.
 
2012-10-06 09:41:44 PM
I earn 16 hours of annual leave per month and 8 hours sick per month. Plus the usual state and federal holidays. Even get a day for my bday.
I have 420 hours of annual and over 600 hours sick banked.
I use my comp time for vacations in stead of leave. Wish I could sell it back.
/govt employee
 
2012-10-06 09:41:49 PM
Over_Zealously_Apathetic: Just shows me his boss is nonessential. Hopefully executive management realizes this and fires him.

Not quite. I would venture to guess that a boss is harder to replace than a worker-monkey.
 
2012-10-06 09:43:33 PM
I work for the federal govt and get 20 days of annual leave per year plus paid holidays and sick time. After 15 years it goes up to 26 days. My coworkers routinely go on 3 week vacations. Plus we have use or lose, so many folks (esp those who have been around a long time) take off a couple of weeks around the holidays.
 
2012-10-06 09:43:35 PM
I've gotten my notice for vacation days (retail, so take this with a grain of salt). 12 for 2013 all paid, but all must be taken before November 1 (not an unreasonable requirement considering Christmas crap). I'm allowed to bank no more than 5 days per year, up to a maximum of 35. The tools at home office get twice as much, because when selling stuff, the people at a desk thinking up arbitrary numbers are orders of magnitude more important than people who actually sell stuff.

/Angry rant off
//Still looking for better work
 
2012-10-06 09:44:06 PM

xl5150: Over_Zealously_Apathetic: Just shows me his boss is nonessential. Hopefully executive management realizes this and fires him.

Not quite. I would venture to guess that a boss is harder to replace than a worker-monkey.


Doesn't sound like the boss needs to be replaced at all. Sounds like a non-essential position.
 
2012-10-06 09:44:32 PM

xl5150: Over_Zealously_Apathetic: Just shows me his boss is nonessential. Hopefully executive management realizes this and fires him.

Not quite. I would venture to guess that a boss is harder to replace than a worker-monkey.


Yeah, middle management is so hard to come by.
 
2012-10-06 09:44:43 PM
Man, I did not read this thread before I posted. I can't think of the last time I took a vacation. At least 8 years ago. I just don't have the money. I save up but end up using it to help someone.
 
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