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2012-10-08 07:32:21 PM
There's another easter egg in the same extras on the Blu-Ray that ties in with Alien.

**Possible spoiler I guess...sort of**

In another one of those text things, Weyland says he is financing Shaw's mission partially because Weyland scanners detected life...but not on the planet where the movie takes place (LV-223). The signal was coming from LV-426, which is where they land in Alien(s). The mission will humor Shaw's wishes to explore LV-223, but they will then continue on to LV-426, and Meredith and David are the only others who are made aware of this.

In relation to what the majority of this discussion is about, I think the decisions made by the characters make sense when you think about it. The geologist and biologist are idiots because Weyland picked some random people, because the scientific aspect of the mission was less important to him. And a lot of the rash/stupid decisions made by Shaw and Holloway I think fit in to the hubris that humans exhibit when they are driven to exploration and discovery.
 
2012-10-08 07:44:03 PM

TyrantII: Luckily there's still science fictions fans overseas, and overseas is increasingly Hollywood's focus. Fox is got to be happy that they spend a good $30 million less than Trek 2009, and brought in quite a few more bengis'. Hell, and Trek was PG13!


Trek cost 140 (so ten more) and grossed 56 more, so it's kind of a wash. Honestly I'm shocked that Trek only made that much. I guess since it made so much more domestically (258 vs. 126) it was considered a bigger hit?
 
2012-10-08 08:05:26 PM

mjbok: TyrantII: Luckily there's still science fictions fans overseas, and overseas is increasingly Hollywood's focus. Fox is got to be happy that they spend a good $30 million less than Trek 2009, and brought in quite a few more bengis'. Hell, and Trek was PG13!

Trek cost 140 (so ten more) and grossed 56 more, so it's kind of a wash. Honestly I'm shocked that Trek only made that much. I guess since it made so much more domestically (258 vs. 126) it was considered a bigger hit?


Yes because studios get a much bigger cut of the domestic box office. That's why there wasn't a Troy 2 or King Arthur 2.
 
2012-10-08 08:42:06 PM

Mr. Chainsaw: and Holloway


Holloway's depression over not finding life makes no sense whatsoever.
 
2012-10-08 09:26:40 PM

RoyBatty: Mr. Chainsaw: and Holloway

Holloway's depression over not finding life makes no sense whatsoever.


He wasn't disappointed that they didn't find life, it's that they actually did find the engineers but couldn't ask them the big questions. And really, if you came THAT close, wouldn't you be pretty bummed out too? In the deleted scenes, there's a lot more of this, and he throws a big drunken hissy fit about it, which is too much. I'm glad they cut it.
 
2012-10-08 09:38:33 PM

carnifex2005: Yes because studios get a much bigger cut of the domestic box office. That's why there wasn't a Troy 2 or King Arthur 2.


To be fair King Arthur did make about 40% of its budget back domestically (made 3x domestic internationally), but if you had asked me which was closer to the worldwide gross of Troy, 200 million or 700 million I would have bet LOTS of money that is was closer to 200. I was shocked it clocked in just under 500. That's a lot of doubloons, especially considering on 120 of that was local.
 
2012-10-08 10:08:43 PM

RoyBatty: It did suck just as they said -- and having never seen Monster, is there any ever movie that made me hate a Charlize Theron character? Wow. But I pretty much hated everyone in that movie.


Aeon Flux! 
 
2012-10-08 10:09:36 PM

Mr. Chainsaw: And really, if you came THAT close, wouldn't you be pretty bummed out too?


Why would he think there was life on that planet?

It's been what 2,000, 10,000, 30,000 years since the Engineers contacted earth. There are no radio signals or light signals from that star system or near it. There's no other sign of life in the Universe (that the audience knows about). Why would he expect the Engineers to still be alive?

And yet, when he gets there, he literally discovers buried treasure wealth beyond his imagination. Above ground roads and runways, buried structures, complex tech, shiat loads of stuff to study, and holy smokes, the skeletons and heads of the Engineers and some very intriguing holograms.

And he found it in the first six hours. No telling what might happen in the next few days or weeks -- more stuff to find, maybe a hint as to where the Engineers are now or what happened to them.

I honestly have no idea why someone would be disappointed with that to the extent that was portrayed in the movie.
 
2012-10-08 10:10:28 PM

Whorbal: RoyBatty: It did suck just as they said -- and having never seen Monster, is there any ever movie that made me hate a Charlize Theron character? Wow. But I pretty much hated everyone in that movie.

Aeon Flux!


Okay, thanks, I'll put that on my Netflix for when I really hate myself.
 
2012-10-09 03:29:34 AM
I always thought the Space Jockey/Engineer seat was a turret/gun, and since the xenomorphs are extreme-enviro-adapted, that the eggs made excellent projectiles launched to the surface of a planet at cities/whatever.

In that shiat-fest that was Prometheus, the goo-containers look like projectiles to be fired from that turret/gun.

/Nuke it from orbit?
 
2012-10-09 10:34:11 AM
Just picked up the 3D BD CE at Bestbuy for $20. Can't wait to dive back into it tonight. 7 hours of extras including the 3 hour doc is going to be fun.

Movie gets a lot of hate, but it's a worthy addition to my science fiction collection.

Guess too many people got hung up on wanting the classic ALIEN formula yet again. It was done to death, and AVP was a failure of comedic proportions. This would have been too if it just retold the same story yet again, without trying to shake things up.
 
2012-10-09 10:36:08 AM

One Bad Apple: I am mostly just interested in the deleted scene of the dialogue exchange between David and the Engineer before it goes all BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD and tries to kill everyone.


Great scene, saw it last night.

It should have been included in the theater version. It explains A LOT about the Engineer's rage.
 
2012-10-09 11:51:17 AM

TyrantII: Guess too many people got hung up on wanting the classic ALIEN formula yet again.


I don't really see anyone making that complaint. People are complaining because the movie sucks, the characters are dumb, etc.
 
2012-10-09 12:59:57 PM

Samwise Gamgee: TyrantII: Guess too many people got hung up on wanting the classic ALIEN formula yet again.

I don't really see anyone making that complaint. People are complaining because the movie sucks, the characters are dumb, etc.


subjectively, sure. You can rip into both of the "golden movies" the same way, and get the same results.

It's like the idiots ripping apart Trek 2009, and in the same breath saying Generations or Insurrection wasn't that bad.

Prometheus wasn't vertigo, but the kvetching over this movie is appalling. But that's the internet for you in 2010, where a 400 million dollar R science fiction movie is horrible and a failure.

/Hispterglasses
 
2012-10-09 01:07:53 PM

TyrantII: Prometheus wasn't vertigo, but the kvetching over this movie is appalling. But that's the internet for you in 2010, where a 400 million dollar R science fiction movie is horrible and a failure.


Argumentum ad McDonalds, form of Prometheus.
 
2012-10-09 01:47:19 PM
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7367818/79900997#c79900997" target="_blank">RoyBatty</a>:</b> <i>TyrantII: Prometheus wasn't vertigo, but the kvetching over this movie is appalling. But that's the internet for you in 2010, where a 400 million dollar R science fiction movie is horrible and a failure.

Argumentum ad McDonalds, form of Prometheus.</i>

touche

But Fox couldn't sell happy meals to the tweens here. Makes you wonder what it would have done if they got a PG-13 rating...
 
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