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2012-10-06 03:41:58 PM  
Well, that blows...
 
2012-10-06 05:07:08 PM  
it's not a free fall and he's not "fearless."
 
2012-10-06 06:15:36 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-06 06:55:39 PM  
balloon needs under 2mph of wind to take off ?
That thing is fragile...
 
2012-10-06 06:58:25 PM  

SpikeStrip: it's not a free fall and he's not "fearless."


How's that? I don't follow.
 
2012-10-06 06:58:32 PM  
Oh what, you wanted to LAND too?

Some people.
 
2012-10-06 06:59:44 PM  
The man dubbed "Fearless Felix" is attempting to become the first skydiver to break the sound barrier. If he doesn't, a gruesome demise could be live-streamed on the Internet for the world to see.

So, if he doesn't fall fast enough, he's going to die?

I don't get it.
 
2012-10-06 07:02:22 PM  

Mokmo: balloon needs under 2mph of wind to take off ?


Yeah, in the autumn, too.
 
2012-10-06 07:02:58 PM  
Still trying to decide if I want to go with the David Bowie or the Tom Petty reference.
 
2012-10-06 07:04:38 PM  
"Ignore this. That african animal in a suit needs to be dragged out by it's neck from the white house and burned under a tree for trying to impersonate a christian human and turning us into homosexual muslims. May God guide your inspiration to a true christian man to make His Word into Law as it should have always been."

As usual, the Yahoo comments are full of gold. If by gold you mean golden shower, and by golden shower you mean urine, and by urine you mean human waste, and by human waste you mean... well, this.
 
2012-10-06 07:05:37 PM  

Scruffinator: The man dubbed "Fearless Felix" is attempting to become the first skydiver to break the sound barrier. If he doesn't, a gruesome demise could be live-streamed on the Internet for the world to see.

So, if he doesn't fall fast enough, he's going to die?

I don't get it.


Maybe the author thinks that if you don't break the sound barrier, the sound barrier breaks you?
 
2012-10-06 07:08:09 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-06 07:09:07 PM  

Kuroshin: Scruffinator: The man dubbed "Fearless Felix" is attempting to become the first skydiver to break the sound barrier. If he doesn't, a gruesome demise could be live-streamed on the Internet for the world to see.

So, if he doesn't fall fast enough, he's going to die?

I don't get it.

Maybe the author thinks that if you don't break the sound barrier, the sound barrier breaks you?


I guess the "sound barrier" is an actual barrier, like a wall, which he's going to hit at 775 mph, leaving only a cranberry-colored smear hanging in the sky.
 
2012-10-06 07:09:23 PM  

chopit: "Ignore this. That african animal in a suit needs to be dragged out by it's neck from the white house and burned under a tree for trying to impersonate a christian human and turning us into homosexual muslims. May God guide your inspiration to a true christian man to make His Word into Law as it should have always been."

As usual, the Yahoo comments are full of gold. If by gold you mean golden shower, and by golden shower you mean urine, and by urine you mean human waste, and by human waste you mean... well, this.


I fail to see how anyone who could write something like that doesn't just really secretly hate their own very existence.
 
2012-10-06 07:09:46 PM  

DigitalCoffee: Still trying to decide if I want to go with the David Bowie or the Tom Petty reference.


Maybe Van Halen?
 
2012-10-06 07:13:23 PM  
Canceled due to winds, or due to "the winds"?
 
2012-10-06 07:15:55 PM  

austin_millbarge: chopit: "Ignore this. That african animal in a suit needs to be dragged out by it's neck from the white house and burned under a tree for trying to impersonate a christian human and turning us into homosexual muslims. May God guide your inspiration to a true christian man to make His Word into Law as it should have always been."

As usual, the Yahoo comments are full of gold. If by gold you mean golden shower, and by golden shower you mean urine, and by urine you mean human waste, and by human waste you mean... well, this.

I fail to see how anyone who could write something like that doesn't just really secretly hate their own very existence.


yahoo comment sections is where AOL, and youtube commenters go to die.
 
2012-10-06 07:18:12 PM  
I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.
 
2012-10-06 07:18:53 PM  

austin_millbarge: chopit: "Ignore this. That african animal in a suit needs to be dragged out by it's neck from the white house and burned under a tree for trying to impersonate a christian human and turning us into homosexual muslims. May God guide your inspiration to a true christian man to make His Word into Law as it should have always been."

As usual, the Yahoo comments are full of gold. If by gold you mean golden shower, and by golden shower you mean urine, and by urine you mean human waste, and by human waste you mean... well, this.

I fail to see how anyone who could write something like that doesn't just really secretly hate their own very existence.


If you check his posts, (on Yahoo comments, click his name) you might "armchair psychologist" that he was raped by a man when he was a child. Therefore in his particular case - LOL.
 
2012-10-06 07:23:34 PM  
Darwin is getting imipatient with these fools.
 
2012-10-06 07:23:51 PM  

iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.


So if you vigorously thrusted as your wife fell out the window...
 
2012-10-06 07:24:14 PM  

iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.


Go up high enough up and there are less air molecules than there are at sea level to plow through so you can go faster.
 
2012-10-06 07:32:08 PM  

iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.


Uhh, you forgot the little 2 over "sec" which makes the 9.8 a rate of acceleration, not a velocity.
 
2012-10-06 07:35:07 PM  

iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.


Which is why when you fall out of an airplane you hit as soft as when you fall out of a tree, right? You call at 9.8m per second per second. So 1st second you fall 9.8m/s, next second you fall at 19.6 m/s and so on.
 
2012-10-06 07:35:38 PM  

iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.


You forgot another second. It's 9.8 m/sec^2 and that's the rate of acceleration . After one second, you're falling at 9.8 m/sec, after two seconds, it's 19.6 m/sec, and so on. The big difference at high altitude is that the air resistance is much lower, so terminal velocity is much higher.

/I don't wish this guy any ill will, but I still want Joe Kittinger to keep his 50-year old record.
 
2012-10-06 07:35:55 PM  

MindStalker: iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.

Which is why when you fall out of an airplane you hit as soft as when you fall out of a tree, right? You call at 9.8m per second per second. So 1st second you fall 9.8m/s, next second you fall at 19.6 m/s and so on.


Though there is a terminal velocity based upon the air thickness as a wind slows you down, but that's another issue.
 
2012-10-06 07:36:49 PM  

iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.


You are confusing velocity with acceleration. Acceleration due to gravity is approximately 9.8 m/s^2 at sea level. Terminal velocity is more complicated and has to do with the competing forces of gravity and drag due to wind resistance:
Wikipedia Skydiving Example
 
2012-10-06 07:37:14 PM  
Ah, a physics lesson Trifecta, I gotta learn to type faster.
 
2012-10-06 07:44:50 PM  

Scruffinator: The man dubbed "Fearless Felix" is attempting to become the first skydiver to break the sound barrier. If he doesn't, a gruesome demise could be live-streamed on the Internet for the world to see.

So, if he doesn't fall fast enough, he's going to die?

I don't get it.


In order to break the sound barrier he needs to hold a head-down position. Going belly-to-earth will be too slow as the air resistance will be higher. Maintaining head-down is about as hard as it gets even under typical atmosphereic conditions. Up there he's got very little air to play with. If he screws up and starts going head-over-heels he'll probably pass out from the G forces. Same thing will be problem if he tosses it and ends up doing a horizontal belly spin.

Or the author is just a moron. *shrug*

The current world record holder (Kittenger) used a drogue chute to keep him a bit more stable to prevent these problems. It also kept him from breaking the sound barrier.

Gyrfalcon: I guess the "sound barrier" is an actual barrier, like a wall, which he's going to hit at 775 mph, leaving only a cranberry-colored smear hanging in the sky.


Been a while since I did the math but the sound barrier is closer to 690 mph at that elevation. It changes based on air density. I can with reasonable certainty that it's in the 600's somewhere.
 
2012-10-06 07:44:50 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Kuroshin: Scruffinator: The man dubbed "Fearless Felix" is attempting to become the first skydiver to break the sound barrier. If he doesn't, a gruesome demise could be live-streamed on the Internet for the world to see.

So, if he doesn't fall fast enough, he's going to die?

I don't get it.

Maybe the author thinks that if you don't break the sound barrier, the sound barrier breaks you?

I guess the "sound barrier" is an actual barrier, like a wall, which he's going to hit at 775 mph, leaving only a cranberry-colored smear hanging in the sky.


Should'a used noclip.
 
2012-10-06 07:46:35 PM  

Gough: /I don't wish this guy any ill will, but I still want Joe Kittinger to keep his 50-year old record.


Kittinger is on the team making this jump possible. Other people have talked about it, but Felix was the only one Kittinger thought was worth helping out.
 
2012-10-06 07:48:55 PM  

chopit: "Ignore this. That african animal in a suit needs to be dragged out by it's neck from the white house and burned under a tree for trying to impersonate a christian human and turning us into homosexual muslims. May God guide your inspiration to a true christian man to make His Word into Law as it should have always been."

As usual, the Yahoo comments are full of gold. If by gold you mean golden shower, and by golden shower you mean urine, and by urine you mean human waste, and by human waste you mean... well, this.


The Yahoo Finance section gets even better...
 
2012-10-06 08:14:26 PM  

jbuist: Scruffinator: The man dubbed "Fearless Felix" is attempting to become the first skydiver to break the sound barrier. If he doesn't, a gruesome demise could be live-streamed on the Internet for the world to see.

So, if he doesn't fall fast enough, he's going to die?

I don't get it.

In order to break the sound barrier he needs to hold a head-down position. Going belly-to-earth will be too slow as the air resistance will be higher. Maintaining head-down is about as hard as it gets even under typical atmosphereic conditions. Up there he's got very little air to play with. If he screws up and starts going head-over-heels he'll probably pass out from the G forces. Same thing will be problem if he tosses it and ends up doing a horizontal belly spin.

Or the author is just a moron. *shrug*

The current world record holder (Kittenger) used a drogue chute to keep him a bit more stable to prevent these problems. It also kept him from breaking the sound barrier.

Gyrfalcon: I guess the "sound barrier" is an actual barrier, like a wall, which he's going to hit at 775 mph, leaving only a cranberry-colored smear hanging in the sky.

Been a while since I did the math but the sound barrier is closer to 690 mph at that elevation. It changes based on air density. I can with reasonable certainty that it's in the 600's somewhere.


He has to fall fast enough to BREAK it. If he only falls fast enough to HIT it, then we get that lovely deep-red smudge on the sky.
 
2012-10-06 08:34:31 PM  

eloveulongtime: iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.

You are confusing velocity with acceleration. Acceleration due to gravity is approximately 9.8 m/s^2 at sea level. Terminal velocity is more complicated and has to do with the competing forces of gravity and drag due to wind resistance:
Wikipedia Skydiving Example


Thanks. Its been a couple decades since I've dealt with that aspect of physics. Obviously I got my acceleration mixed up with velocity. Thanks for the non snarky explination. Now fark off ;)
 
2012-10-06 08:36:07 PM  

Gough: iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.

You forgot another second. It's 9.8 m/sec^2 and that's the rate of acceleration . After one second, you're falling at 9.8 m/sec, after two seconds, it's 19.6 m/sec, and so on. The big difference at high altitude is that the air resistance is much lower, so terminal velocity is much higher.

/I don't wish this guy any ill will, but I still want Joe Kittinger to keep his 50-year old record.


You just want to see him go splat. Thanks too for splaining it to me.
 
2012-10-06 08:38:12 PM  

Gyrfalcon: jbuist: Scruffinator: The man dubbed "Fearless Felix" is attempting to become the first skydiver to break the sound barrier. If he doesn't, a gruesome demise could be live-streamed on the Internet for the world to see.

So, if he doesn't fall fast enough, he's going to die?

I don't get it.

In order to break the sound barrier he needs to hold a head-down position. Going belly-to-earth will be too slow as the air resistance will be higher. Maintaining head-down is about as hard as it gets even under typical atmosphereic conditions. Up there he's got very little air to play with. If he screws up and starts going head-over-heels he'll probably pass out from the G forces. Same thing will be problem if he tosses it and ends up doing a horizontal belly spin.

Or the author is just a moron. *shrug*

The current world record holder (Kittenger) used a drogue chute to keep him a bit more stable to prevent these problems. It also kept him from breaking the sound barrier.

Gyrfalcon: I guess the "sound barrier" is an actual barrier, like a wall, which he's going to hit at 775 mph, leaving only a cranberry-colored smear hanging in the sky.

Been a while since I did the math but the sound barrier is closer to 690 mph at that elevation. It changes based on air density. I can with reasonable certainty that it's in the 600's somewhere.

He has to fall fast enough to BREAK it. If he only falls fast enough to HIT it, then we get that lovely deep-red smudge on the sky.


www.thestate.ae
 
2012-10-06 08:58:59 PM  

Mokmo: balloon needs under 2mph of wind to take off ?
That thing is fragile...


From one of the balloon launches from years ago, I remember the authors describing the envelope of the balloon as being about the same thickness as a dry-cleaning bag. That is fragile.

/That's why I don't buy clothes that have to be dry cleaned.
 
2012-10-06 09:21:11 PM  
COLUMBIA CREW SURVIVAL INVESTIGATION REPORT 3-89
3.4.3 Identified events with lethal potential
3. The third event with lethal potential was separation from the crew module and the seats
with associated forces, material interactions, and thermal consequences. This event is the least understood due to limitations in current knowledge of mechanisms at this Mach number and altitude.
 
2012-10-06 09:58:32 PM  

Ecobuckeye: SpikeStrip: it's not a free fall and he's not "fearless."

How's that? I don't follow.


He's right, you know. If Baumgartner truly was fearless, he'd do it without a parachute.
 
2012-10-06 10:54:52 PM  
Considering the first metal birds blew up trying to beat the sound barrier, I am not holding high hopes for a skydiver, even with protective gear. Even if he breaks it, he still has to slow down below it - I doubt he's going to carry a supersonic chute. Best case scenario would be coming back deaf, really.
 
2012-10-06 11:07:40 PM  

Gough: iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.

You forgot another second. It's 9.8 m/sec^2 and that's the rate of acceleration . After one second, you're falling at 9.8 m/sec, after two seconds, it's 19.6 m/sec, and so on. The big difference at high altitude is that the air resistance is much lower, so terminal velocity is much higher.

/I don't wish this guy any ill will, but I still want Joe Kittinger to keep his 50-year old record.


mike.quinnspot.com 

I love it when I get to post this.
 
2012-10-06 11:11:48 PM  
FTA: ...extreme athlete Felix Baumgartner...

Falling qualifies one to be called an athlete?
 
2012-10-07 12:34:13 AM  

DrPainMD: FTA: ...extreme athlete Felix Baumgartner...

Falling qualifies one to be called an athlete?


Next you're gonna tell me people who go fast and turn left aren't athletes. Let's see you do it.
 
2012-10-07 01:13:43 AM  

Kuroshin: Gyrfalcon: jbuist: Scruffinator: The man dubbed "Fearless Felix" is attempting to become the first skydiver to break the sound barrier. If he doesn't, a gruesome demise could be live-streamed on the Internet for the world to see.

So, if he doesn't fall fast enough, he's going to die?

I don't get it.

In order to break the sound barrier he needs to hold a head-down position. Going belly-to-earth will be too slow as the air resistance will be higher. Maintaining head-down is about as hard as it gets even under typical atmosphereic conditions. Up there he's got very little air to play with. If he screws up and starts going head-over-heels he'll probably pass out from the G forces. Same thing will be problem if he tosses it and ends up doing a horizontal belly spin.

Or the author is just a moron. *shrug*

The current world record holder (Kittenger) used a drogue chute to keep him a bit more stable to prevent these problems. It also kept him from breaking the sound barrier.

Gyrfalcon: I guess the "sound barrier" is an actual barrier, like a wall, which he's going to hit at 775 mph, leaving only a cranberry-colored smear hanging in the sky.

Been a while since I did the math but the sound barrier is closer to 690 mph at that elevation. It changes based on air density. I can with reasonable certainty that it's in the 600's somewhere.

He has to fall fast enough to BREAK it. If he only falls fast enough to HIT it, then we get that lovely deep-red smudge on the sky.

[www.thestate.ae image 480x360]


Wow, my first applause! I'm so proud!
 
2012-10-07 01:54:37 AM  

NoWhiskeyWeGoNow: Gough: iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.

You forgot another second. It's 9.8 m/sec^2 and that's the rate of acceleration . After one second, you're falling at 9.8 m/sec, after two seconds, it's 19.6 m/sec, and so on. The big difference at high altitude is that the air resistance is much lower, so terminal velocity is much higher.

/I don't wish this guy any ill will, but I still want Joe Kittinger to keep his 50-year old record.

[mike.quinnspot.com image 600x757] 

I love it when I get to post this.


My god, I love that picture. Even adding in my feeble attempt at understanding what that feeling was like, the man was on the edge of space, beyond any possible chance of saying "actually, I'd rather not"...and just took that step. That one step. At once being separated from your last bastion of modern technology (the gondola of the balloon) and going for broke. I'm sure he had confidence in the science behind all the apparati he was wearing, but as far as a true "leap of faith" this is nigh unsurpassed.

I feel I need to post this Boards of Canada video, as it was my first introduction to Kittenger and his leap:
Video
 
2012-10-07 02:39:02 AM  
Yes, I know it's a RedBull ad, but this is still some mind-blowing stuff.

I'm a bit excited, mostly because we really don't know what's going to happen.
 
2012-10-07 02:52:29 AM  

croesius: NoWhiskeyWeGoNow: Gough: iron_city_ap: I thought it was impossible for humans to exceed 9.8m/sec without some form of thrust. Your wife falls as fast from a 50 story building as she do from a 100 story one. It just takes longer.

You forgot another second. It's 9.8 m/sec^2 and that's the rate of acceleration . After one second, you're falling at 9.8 m/sec, after two seconds, it's 19.6 m/sec, and so on. The big difference at high altitude is that the air resistance is much lower, so terminal velocity is much higher.

/I don't wish this guy any ill will, but I still want Joe Kittinger to keep his 50-year old record.

[mike.quinnspot.com image 600x757] 

I love it when I get to post this.

My god, I love that picture. Even adding in my feeble attempt at understanding what that feeling was like, the man was on the edge of space, beyond any possible chance of saying "actually, I'd rather not"...and just took that step. That one step. At once being separated from your last bastion of modern technology (the gondola of the balloon) and going for broke. I'm sure he had confidence in the science behind all the apparati he was wearing, but as far as a true "leap of faith" this is nigh unsurpassed.

I feel I need to post this Boards of Canada video, as it was my first introduction to Kittenger and his leap:
Video


It was a cool video, but I so feel like I just got Rick Rolled..;-)
 
2012-10-07 04:39:52 AM  
I just want to see Crazy Felix walk unaided to the recovery vehicle with his chute under his arm.
 
2012-10-07 08:10:44 AM  

croesius: beyond any possible chance of saying "actually, I'd rather not"...


You know, that aspect of it hadn't occurred to me.
 
2012-10-07 07:22:18 PM  

MooseUpNorth: croesius: beyond any possible chance of saying "actually, I'd rather not"...

You know, that aspect of it hadn't occurred to me.


It always chokes me up. I've had that picture of Kittinger as my phone background for years, and my desktop image (until the wife decided our wedding picture superseded it) as well. Truly moving.
 
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