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(WTKR)   America's flagship ocean liner, the SS United States, sits rusting away at a pier in Philly. Now a group is trying to raise millions to restore her to her former glory   (wtkr.com) divider line 17
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10869 clicks; posted to Main » on 06 Oct 2012 at 3:13 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-10-06 03:29:29 PM  
3 votes:
Yes because pumping millions of dollars into an old ship that we have no use for is a much better investment then say spending that money on education, roads, space, paying down the debt, etc. Sell it for scrap and be done with it.
2012-10-07 12:45:46 AM  
1 votes:
I am not sure how big of a military ship can fit up the St Lawrence through the locks but I think it would be cool to get an old destroyer or cruiser and sail it around the great lakes and do shows for the 4th and fire blanks in the guns. I have no idea if it would be self supporting or not.
2012-10-06 06:57:58 PM  
1 votes:
If it's done with private money given voluntarily, I don't care.
2012-10-06 06:33:32 PM  
1 votes:
I have to agree that I'm not sure it's worthy of salvation. It's got some historical significance, but, well, Philly also has the USS Olympia, which was Admiral Dewey's flagship during the Battle of Manila Bay in the Spanish-American War. It's a gorgeous ship:

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And she's been in the water without any hull upkeep for far, far too long. The museum foundation which serves as her legal steward can't afford the upkeep,and they're shopping her around to see if anyone wants to take her and preserve her as a museum, or maybe to sink her as a reef or just to scrap her.

Given the choice between saving one of those ships, I'd really pick the Olympia.
2012-10-06 06:18:54 PM  
1 votes:
Maybe as a civilization we will move forward when we stop wasting billions of dollars preserving useless crap and spend that money where its needed.
2012-10-06 04:43:36 PM  
1 votes:
I'm as much of an ocean liner nut as the next guy, but from those pictures that ship is positively gutted. It's going to take millions upon millions to make that ship livable, even if it just sits at a dock for the rest of time.
2012-10-06 04:32:02 PM  
1 votes:

DSF6969: FTFA: It is the last of the American ocean liners.

Not true. Norwegian Cruise Line's Pride of America is a US-flagged cruise ship that sails the Hawaiian Islands and has an entirely US and unionized crew. 

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Not quite the same thing. An ocean liner is a form of public transportation, serving fixed routes on a regular schedule for transportation purposes, just like the vehicles of an air or bus line. A cruise ship is not dissimilar, but is designed with the intent of the time on the boat itself being much or all of the pleasure. It's the difference between Greyhound and a tour bus, or Southwest and a sightseeing charter.
2012-10-06 04:24:57 PM  
1 votes:

Intoxoman: I sailed on it back in the 60's when I was 4. Still remember some of it. But that ship is like a junky old house people like to label historic. Its time to scrap it. Why waste multi-millions on it.


Me too, same age, and I agree that some things aren't worth spending enormous resources to keep around.
2012-10-06 03:49:16 PM  
1 votes:

AlwaysRightBoy: Every time I pass her watching her waist away is just sad.


ha-ha-guy: I've seen it in person and it is said to see it rusting there.


I morn for the litter racy of my fellow Farkers.
2012-10-06 03:48:30 PM  
1 votes:
I'm sorry. Historic as the ship is there's a reason it has been sitting around for years falling apart.

That would be because it outlived its usefulness.

If you're going to spend 10s of millions of dollars on something I'm sure the infrastructure of your city could use it more.
2012-10-06 03:43:13 PM  
1 votes:
It's in better shape than the country it represents.
2012-10-06 03:33:18 PM  
1 votes:
Meanwhile the NS Savannah sits rotting away while the government decides what to do with it...
2012-10-06 03:27:50 PM  
1 votes:
Since they already gutted it and sold off the valuable stuff... scrap it. It's not worth putting money into.

Imagine the upgrades required by the Coast Guard to be seaworthy!
2012-10-06 03:24:26 PM  
1 votes:

SockMonkeyHolocaust: They did a big push last year and raised a couple million dollars to be able to keep it in dock for a couple months. It's kind of sad since the Olympia sits up the river in need of tens of millions of dollars in repairs. People are trying to save another dumb cruiseship that should be a tramp steamer in the Phillipines while one of the five ships that define the evolution of American maritime power rusts away neglected.


Not saying the Olympia shouldn't be saved, but the S.S. United States was also a military vessel, its top speed was classified for years, pictures and models below the waterline and screws were also classified, it was built to be the worlds largest, fastest troop transport ship. The US government subsidised a large portion of the build budget. The engines are military spec. This is not a slow prodding cruise ship/tramp steamer.
2012-10-06 03:22:52 PM  
1 votes:
Ask yourself- when the Gamelon comet bombs fall what ship can be retrofitted for a cruise to Iscandar to save the human race? Are we going to let the Japanese surge ahead in space battleship retrofitting techology, too?
2012-10-06 12:35:51 PM  
1 votes:

BunkyBrewman: This vessel still holds the west bound speed record for the fastest Atlantic crossing by a steamship.

/your gee whiz trivia for today


So what? The Flying Cloud was the world's fastest clipper ship. Being the best at a dead technology is not worth much.
2012-10-06 12:10:00 PM  
1 votes:
This vessel still holds the west bound speed record for the fastest Atlantic crossing by a steamship.

/your gee whiz trivia for today
 
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