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(The New York Times)   This just in: students prefer pizza, cookies, fries, to carrots, fruit, beans, in their school lunches. For more on this late-breaking story, here's crack reporter Ric Romero   (nytimes.com) divider line 72
    More: Obvious, school lunches, calorie restriction, baby carrots, fruits, middle schools, high schools, elementary schools  
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2012-10-06 09:00:19 AM
*gasp*

Surely not! Why, next you'll be telling me they prefer playing video games and making out to going to class! Whatever is our great nation coming to?
 
2012-10-06 09:08:21 AM
I like to carrots as well.
 
Pud [TotalFark]
2012-10-06 12:02:02 PM
I was with you up until that whole carrots and fruit nonsense.

/That's just crazy talk there ...
 
2012-10-06 12:17:54 PM
Newsflash: trying to drastically alter an ingrained brainwashing effect of providing the junkiest of junk foods to children for years doesn't actually work 100% from the very start, especially if those kids can still be tempted by that processed crap from outside sources (such as lazy/ignorant parents).
 
2012-10-06 01:18:18 PM
And of course Republicans will support students' "rights to choose" when it comes to food b/c they'll sell it as sticking it to big, bad government. Of course, in doing so, they'll ignore the fact that the truly conservative response would be that adults know better than kids what's good for them.
 
2012-10-06 01:21:56 PM

whistleridge: *gasp*

Surely not! Why, next you'll be telling me they prefer playing video games and making out to going to class! Whatever is our great nation coming to?


The clear answer is to cancel classes and set up a series of hidden alcoves with xboxes in them.
 
2012-10-06 01:23:47 PM

whistleridge: *gasp*

Surely not! Why, next you'll be telling me they prefer playing video games and making out to going to class! Whatever is our great nation coming to?


They'd hate playing video games if you made them as part of school.

/except Oregon Trail
//but the joy could be sucked out of that too
 
2012-10-06 01:23:52 PM
Adolescents prefer foods with simpler but pronounced tastes because nuanced gustatory and olfactory perception have not developed in them. Find foods which are salty, sweet, bitter, sour, or savory and healthy, and you will shift the behaviors of the students. However, this has to start early because the assumptions influence perception of taste, and when students see healthy foods after years of junk, well the healthy foods are dismissed as disgusting or flavorless.
 
2012-10-06 01:24:13 PM
Am I the only one who wants to slap the shiat out this younger generation and tell them to stop their biatchin'?
 
2012-10-06 01:27:58 PM
Is Rick Romero related to Ric Romero?
 
2012-10-06 01:30:39 PM
coolchaser-static.coolchaser.com

/oblig


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/also oblig
 
2012-10-06 01:31:28 PM
To the kids complaining about higher prices and smaller portions, better get used to it. Restaurants and grocery stores have been doing it for years And as to the taste, it was institutional, prison grade crap pizza and nachos before, so at least carrots can be dunked in ranch dressing to hide some of the blandness. My kids' school always has at least one 'parent eat with your kid' day, and it only took one time for me to remember how awful school lunches were. My kids are always welcome to eat at school, or brown bag it. When it's growth spurt time, they usually do both.
 
2012-10-06 01:31:42 PM

Vangor: Adolescents prefer foods with simpler but pronounced tastes because nuanced gustatory and olfactory perception have not developed in them. Find foods which are salty, sweet, bitter, sour, or savory and healthy, and you will shift the behaviors of the students. However, this has to start early because the assumptions influence perception of taste, and when students see healthy foods after years of junk, well the healthy foods are dismissed as disgusting or flavorless.


My girlfriend being Indian, she cooks a lot of vegetarian food that is quite healthy and tasty. As opposed to a lot of American vegetarian cuisine, which appears to be boiled veggies on a plate, or ersatz versions of meat foods (eggplant lasagna, tofu burgers) that appear ashamed to be made of plant material.

It doesn't help that all the ads for fast food seem fun, while ads for healthy eating make it clearly for squares. Especially when they try to make it "rad."
 
Zon
2012-10-06 01:34:14 PM

Fano: Vangor: Adolescents prefer foods with simpler but pronounced tastes because nuanced gustatory and olfactory perception have not developed in them. Find foods which are salty, sweet, bitter, sour, or savory and healthy, and you will shift the behaviors of the students. However, this has to start early because the assumptions influence perception of taste, and when students see healthy foods after years of junk, well the healthy foods are dismissed as disgusting or flavorless.

My girlfriend being Indian, she cooks a lot of vegetarian food that is quite healthy and tasty. As opposed to a lot of American vegetarian cuisine, which appears to be boiled veggies on a plate, or ersatz versions of meat foods (eggplant lasagna, tofu burgers) that appear ashamed to be made of plant material.

It doesn't help that all the ads for fast food seem fun, while ads for healthy eating make it clearly for squares. Especially when they try to make it "rad."


No food is more radical than pizza. That's science.
 
2012-10-06 01:35:39 PM
Good on those kids for boycotting Federal regulation of what they can and cannot eat.

That parents don't want the responsibility, so they hand it off to the Government.

You bastards complain about Fascism while begging for it.
 
2012-10-06 01:35:49 PM
RiC you dummy!
 
2012-10-06 01:35:53 PM
Hey lil fatties! Bring caramel for your apples and ranch for your carrots. Work smarter, not harder lil fatties!
 
2012-10-06 01:35:56 PM
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2012-10-06 01:38:04 PM

PallMall: Good on those kids for boycotting Federal regulation of what they can and cannot eat.

That parents don't want the responsibility, so they hand it off to the Government.

You bastards complain about Fascism while begging for it.


No one is preventing them from bringing in bagged lunches. However, why should the government not have the final say in what they choose to serve to students at a government run institution?
 
2012-10-06 01:38:11 PM

Zon: Fano: Vangor: Adolescents prefer foods with simpler but pronounced tastes because nuanced gustatory and olfactory perception have not developed in them. Find foods which are salty, sweet, bitter, sour, or savory and healthy, and you will shift the behaviors of the students. However, this has to start early because the assumptions influence perception of taste, and when students see healthy foods after years of junk, well the healthy foods are dismissed as disgusting or flavorless.

My girlfriend being Indian, she cooks a lot of vegetarian food that is quite healthy and tasty. As opposed to a lot of American vegetarian cuisine, which appears to be boiled veggies on a plate, or ersatz versions of meat foods (eggplant lasagna, tofu burgers) that appear ashamed to be made of plant material.

It doesn't help that all the ads for fast food seem fun, while ads for healthy eating make it clearly for squares. Especially when they try to make it "rad."

No food is more radical than pizza. That's science.


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Japan's radioactive reptile warriors have seen to that
 
2012-10-06 01:40:16 PM
How about we just skip ahead and get it over with.

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2012-10-06 01:42:57 PM
FTA: "Courtney Rowe, a spokeswoman for the United States Department of Agriculture, which sets school food regulations, said that despite the complaints about lighter lunches, federal audits showed the average high school lunch before this year contained only 730 calories, less than the minimum number of calories they must now contain, 750."

So despite complaints about not enough calories, they've actually reduced calories even more this year.

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2012-10-06 01:44:23 PM

SN1987a goes boom: PallMall: Good on those kids for boycotting Federal regulation of what they can and cannot eat.

That parents don't want the responsibility, so they hand it off to the Government.

You bastards complain about Fascism while begging for it.

No one is preventing them from bringing in bagged lunches. However, why should the government not have the final say in what they choose to serve to students at a government run institution?


Because it wastes MILLIONS of $$$$$$ in taxpayer money.

0/10
 
2012-10-06 01:45:25 PM
Na na na nannies, you can lead a human to good food, but you can not make them eat it.
 
2012-10-06 01:45:32 PM
interview with the devil's minion

Click "here" in the "Click here to listen" to listen.
 
2012-10-06 01:46:00 PM
Why eat healthy food at school when they can go home and fill up on the shiat their parents buy them because they apparently care less about their children's well-being less than strangers do?
 
2012-10-06 01:46:08 PM
When I was in elementary school, I had kids begging to trade lunches so they could get half of a pita breadfilled with lettuce, tomato, black forest ham, shredded cheddar, and Catalina dressing.

Just make the food tasty.
 
2012-10-06 01:46:56 PM
That's why you don't ask your kids what they prefer and tell them what they're eating because you're the farking parent.
 
2012-10-06 01:47:35 PM
A friend of mine was the youngest kitchen manager at our local school district after the district signed a contract with a private company to take over food services. They immediately reworked the menu to include fresh fruits and vegetables, seasonally chosen and locally sourced. I remember her telling me about the kids freaking out at first (hers was an elementary school - she was barely out of high school herself at that time) but they started looking forward to certain days based on how incredibly awesome some of the fresh fruit they were getting was that day. The little kids at least seem to adjust better than the teenagers in TFA, who are the kid version of old, cranky and set in their ways.

She told me this great story about one really little kid who wouldn't respond when she was asking him "do you want a kiwi?". She tried again and still, no answer. So finally she just put it on his tray, just in case, and the kid promptly burst into tears. She quickly grabbed it up and told him "it's ok, you don't have to have one" and the really little kid behind him got super excited. She said little kid #2 immediately started hopping around all ADHD like and yelling "can I have his? Please? I love those! I ate so many one time that I had to stay in the bathroom all day!" Which of course made everyone working that lunch line bust up laughing.

All this was almost 20 years ago, btw. It's amazing to me it took the feds this long to catch up with what some of our school districts in California have been doing for years now.
 
2012-10-06 01:47:51 PM

wyltoknow: Newsflash: trying to drastically alter an ingrained brainwashing effect of providing the junkiest of junk foods to children for years doesn't actually work 100% from the very start, especially if those kids can still be tempted by that processed crap from outside sources (such as lazy/ignorant parents).


And it's high time the governemt stepped in and stopped those parents from thinking they have a say in raising their kids, right? Government knows best, stop trying to raise your kids and ask the President('s wife) what's best instead.
 
2012-10-06 01:49:50 PM

PallMall: FTA: "Courtney Rowe, a spokeswoman for the United States Department of Agriculture, which sets school food regulations, said that despite the complaints about lighter lunches, federal audits showed the average high school lunch before this year contained only 730 calories, less than the minimum number of calories they must now contain, 750."

So despite complaints about not enough calories, they've actually reduced calories even more this year.

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That's WAAAAY too few calories for growing boys and girls. Who came up with that number? Children don't need fewer calories, they need *more* calories -- the good kind, not the empty kind -- and then they need *more* activity. They don't need the auschwitz diet. They need physical activity and energy. That kind of diet will just teach kids to eat unhealthy.
 
2012-10-06 01:50:24 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: wyltoknow: Newsflash: trying to drastically alter an ingrained brainwashing effect of providing the junkiest of junk foods to children for years doesn't actually work 100% from the very start, especially if those kids can still be tempted by that processed crap from outside sources (such as lazy/ignorant parents).

And it's high time the governemt stepped in and stopped those parents from thinking they have a say in raising their kids, right? Government knows best, stop trying to raise your kids and ask the President('s wife) what's best instead.


If your children are not receiving proper nutrition at home, you've failed as a parent and it should be tantamount to child abuse.

Next question.
 
2012-10-06 01:51:10 PM

PallMall: So despite complaints about not enough calories, they've actually reduced calories even more this year.


Uh...no. Previous years had lunches with an average of 730 calories, and new regulations require 750 minimum calories which would be an average, minimum increase of 20.

Fano: As opposed to a lot of American vegetarian cuisine, which appears to be boiled veggies on a plate, or ersatz versions of meat foods (eggplant lasagna, tofu burgers) that appear ashamed to be made of plant material.


I used to think I hated spinach. I had fresh baby spinach, blanched spinach, or lightly sauteed at the end of cooking asparagus in the pan, and now I toss spinach into my salads, on hamburgers and chicken sandwiches, etc.. Boiling vegetables in general should be a crime unless for the purposes of a stew or soup.
 
2012-10-06 01:53:53 PM
Please note that the kids biatching are those who for 10, 11, 12 years have grown to expect nothing but crap for school lunch. They're acclimated to crap. The young'uns enjoy healthy school lunches because we've taught them to expect healthy school lunches.
 
2012-10-06 01:54:14 PM

PallMall: FTA: "Courtney Rowe, a spokeswoman for the United States Department of Agriculture, which sets school food regulations, said that despite the complaints about lighter lunches, federal audits showed the average high school lunch before this year contained only 730 calories, less than the minimum number of calories they must now contain, 750."

So despite complaints about not enough calories, they've actually reduced calories even more this year.


If they used to contain 730 calories but are now required to have a minimum of 750 calories, they've gained 20, not lost any.
 
2012-10-06 01:54:29 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: wyltoknow: Newsflash: trying to drastically alter an ingrained brainwashing effect of providing the junkiest of junk foods to children for years doesn't actually work 100% from the very start, especially if those kids can still be tempted by that processed crap from outside sources (such as lazy/ignorant parents).

And it's high time the governemt stepped in and stopped those parents from thinking they have a say in raising their kids, right? Government knows best, stop trying to raise your kids and ask the President('s wife) what's best instead.


If people really love their kids, they feed them delicious poison instead of decent food because all that matters is being happy and enjoying yourself.
 
2012-10-06 01:54:40 PM

Fano: Vangor: Adolescents prefer foods with simpler but pronounced tastes because nuanced gustatory and olfactory perception have not developed in them. Find foods which are salty, sweet, bitter, sour, or savory and healthy, and you will shift the behaviors of the students. However, this has to start early because the assumptions influence perception of taste, and when students see healthy foods after years of junk, well the healthy foods are dismissed as disgusting or flavorless.

My girlfriend being Indian, she cooks a lot of vegetarian food that is quite healthy and tasty. As opposed to a lot of American vegetarian cuisine, which appears to be boiled veggies on a plate, or ersatz versions of meat foods (eggplant lasagna, tofu burgers) that appear ashamed to be made of plant material.

It doesn't help that all the ads for fast food seem fun, while ads for healthy eating make it clearly for squares. Especially when they try to make it "rad."


THIS. I remember the school lunch would have corn or green beans and it was pretty damn unappealing. The idea of cooking it INTO something was foreign to them. Well, IIRC they'd mix the green beans and mashed potatoes into a casserole. That was the most complex venture they'd dared.

Keep in mind their budget pretty much precludes everything but ingredients costing under $0.50/lb, salt, and pepper. Note the response: "Everybody in the school's like, 'Have you seen the lunch prices? It's ridiculous!'" because it went from $2.50 to $2.60. So that gives you an idea of the budget here.
 
2012-10-06 01:56:13 PM

FunkOut: When I was in elementary school, I had kids begging to trade lunches so they could get half of a pita breadfilled with lettuce, tomato, black forest ham, shredded cheddar, and Catalina dressing.

Just make the food tasty.


Damn, that sounds tasty.
 
2012-10-06 01:58:22 PM
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2012-10-06 01:59:51 PM

SN1987a goes boom: Am I the only one who wants to slap the shiat out this younger generation and tell them to stop their biatchin'?


No, but their farking parents need an asswhuppin, too
 
2012-10-06 02:01:34 PM

PallMall: SN1987a goes boom: PallMall: Good on those kids for boycotting Federal regulation of what they can and cannot eat.

That parents don't want the responsibility, so they hand it off to the Government.

You bastards complain about Fascism while begging for it.

No one is preventing them from bringing in bagged lunches. However, why should the government not have the final say in what they choose to serve to students at a government run institution?

Because it wastes MILLIONS of $$$$$$ in taxpayer money.

0/10


You are clearly not an intelligent man. Thank you for letting everyone here know. I've made a note.
 
2012-10-06 02:04:44 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: wyltoknow: Newsflash: trying to drastically alter an ingrained brainwashing effect of providing the junkiest of junk foods to children for years doesn't actually work 100% from the very start, especially if those kids can still be tempted by that processed crap from outside sources (such as lazy/ignorant parents).

And it's high time the governemt stepped in and stopped those parents from thinking they have a say in raising their kids, right? Government knows best, stop trying to raise your kids and ask the President('s wife) what's best instead.


Yeah! Get the government out of government provided lunches! Who do they think they are? The government?
 
2012-10-06 02:05:01 PM

PallMall: SN1987a goes boom: PallMall: Good on those kids for boycotting Federal regulation of what they can and cannot eat.

That parents don't want the responsibility, so they hand it off to the Government.

You bastards complain about Fascism while begging for it.

No one is preventing them from bringing in bagged lunches. However, why should the government not have the final say in what they choose to serve to students at a government run institution?

Because it wastes MILLIONS of $$$$$$ in taxpayer money.

0/10


I think you deserve this:

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2012-10-06 02:06:41 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: That's WAAAAY too few calories for growing boys and girls. Who came up with that number? Children don't need fewer calories, they need *more* calories -- the good kind, not the empty kind -- and then they need *more* activity. They don't need the auschwitz diet. They need physical activity and energy. That kind of diet will just teach kids to eat unhealthy.


I agree. What will they blame when their school work suffers?


Vangor: Uh...no. Previous years had lunches with an average of 730 calories, and new regulations require 750 minimum calories which would be an average, minimum increase of 20.


dopekitty74: If they used to contain 730 calories but are now required to have a minimum of 750 calories, they've gained 20, not lost any.


That's because they quit punishing the kids for eating the lunch trays. (I heard there are like 20 calories in those alone).
 
2012-10-06 02:09:49 PM

HotLonelyTeenageGirl: You are clearly not an intelligent man. Thank you for letting everyone here know. I've made a note.


Well, you are clearly a child molester and child rapist. That's the only reason anyone would justify this sort of behavior.

HE'S A MOLESTER... HE'S A CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILD MOLESTER!!!

SN1987a goes boom: I think you deserve this:

4.bp.blogspot.com

FTFM
 
2012-10-06 02:10:29 PM
My children like cigarettes so I give them cigarettes. Suck it, Nanny State.
 
2012-10-06 02:11:36 PM

PallMall: That's because they quit punishing the kids for eating the lunch trays. (I heard there are like 20 calories in those alone).


Got it, you're an idiot.

ExperianScaresCthulhu: That's WAAAAY too few calories for growing boys and girls.


Not for a lunch as a minimum. Now, the concern should be some students only eat when in school, but this is a minimum and can and should be increased, alongside breakfast.
 
2012-10-06 02:13:51 PM

Vangor: Got it, you're an idiot.


You sound fat.
 
2012-10-06 02:30:29 PM

Vangor: Find foods which are salty, sweet, bitter, sour, or savory and healthy, and you will shift the behaviors of the students.


Sounds like they need more Asian food.
 
2012-10-06 02:31:57 PM
Another problem with the new rules is that there is no consideration or exemptions made for students who actually need the extra calories - like my oldest in 10th grade. He is 6'2", 160 lbs and is on the track team who practices 6-7 days a week* averaging 5-10 miles each**. He's easily burning 3000+ calories a day and there's only so much food I can shove in him at breakfast and dinner. Before the new rules, if you were not a fatty, you could get a 2nd lunch. Now they won't even do that. Until we figured out the new rules and had him start bringing a second lunch to help maintain, he'd lost about 5-6 lbs.

What I really hate is that for the kids that need it, changing the food for one meal a day will do absolutely nothing to help them.They'll still eat crap for breakfast and more crap for dinner and since they'll go home hungry, it'll be even bigger plates of crap at home. Way to make the problem worse... idiots.

* practices every Saturday, most Sundays
** 40-90 minute run per practice + core workouts
 
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