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2012-10-06 06:18:48 PM
It is like these experts took tens of thousands of years of evolution and threw it out the window.

Lets start from the top.
Height: Height may increase slightly, it may not, however you deal with a wide variety of other changes that go into adapting to an increased height, things such as a cardiovascular system, and a skeletal, and muscular systems, that based on people that are 7'+, those systems will not be capable of handling. To have a 6'7" average would indicate that is the norm. Those systems are not going to evolve in 30 generations (3 generations a century. Even if you go with 40 generations so 4 generations a century. Those changes simple do not happen that fast, plus the changes would never take affect in the majority of the population).

Intestines: That would assume that having longer intestines is some how negatively impacting mating in some way. Medical and technological advances say that our capabilities to mitigate negative effects of fat and sugar exist that they will not prevent these people from reproducing. And once again those changes simply do not occur over 30-40 generations. Even if they did they would be in a very small minority of the population.

Testicles: Size does not relate to fertility. Although if woman selectively decide they are no longer going to have sex with big balled men, then yeah testicle sizes could shrink, and be a trait passed on to the majority of the population in a short amount of time say 30-40 generations. So woman do you want big or small balled men?

Arms and fingers: I don't think this one even really services a reply. Maybe a warning: IPHONES WILL NOT I REPEAT WILL NOT TURN YOU INTO AN AYE AYE. Christ these people are retarded. Again time on this one, can't be passed on that quick, and even if it does minority of the population.

Brain size: Bigger is not always better, just like smaller is not always worse. Even better when the article brings in someone explaining just that, but hey lets run with a preconceived notion that small brain = stupid. That being said, yeah we likely will drop in intelligence as a result of relying on computers and not using our brains as much. Also once again same issue with the first several this is not a trait that would impact reproduction, so minority of people will have it if it does exist.

Large eyes: Again this is possible purely from a reproductive stand point, if men or women decide eye size is really important and decide that no one with small eyes is reproducing than sure this could happen. Will it? Probably not.

You know what the last four are not even worth a reply. All in all this is an excellent article that represents why science is important so you don't have retarded articles like this come out.
 
2012-10-06 06:23:25 PM
know what? in 3000 we STILL won't have those cool cars they said we'd have in the 50's and 60's. dammit.
 
2012-10-06 07:55:04 PM
Someone explain to this guy how natural selection dictates evolutionary traits, and since no one is prevented from reproducing without those traits, it'll never happen
 
2012-10-06 07:56:42 PM
The only things that are likely close to correct are less body hair, darker skin, and perhaps some kind of anti-obesity adaptation. Less body hair is happening already for whatever reason. Darker skin won't be from evolution, but rather simply population mixing. It is possible, but difficult to determine, that selective pressure from deaths due to obesity could result in some adaptation there.

One thing slowing selection against cancer and obesity is that these generally only cause death late in life, after the reproductive phase of our lifespan.

I'm more worried that civilization won't last another thousand years. At some point, we're going to run out of fossil fuels. With a good replacement looking unlikely, that would probably result in starvation of billions from the inability to use machines to run our massive farms.

I don't think humans will go extinct, though. I think even with every nuclear weapon detonated, there would still be enough people to survive as cavemen again.
 
2012-10-06 08:28:57 PM

tota1pkg: Someone explain to this guy how natural selection dictates evolutionary traits, and since no one is prevented from reproducing without those traits, it'll never happen


Sounds like you are struggling with the definition of "natural selection" and "evolution"

Can you define natural selection to take into account the fact that many people live a bit differently now than they did for thousands of years, and understand that therefore, the evolutionary pressures have also changed?

Evolution is still occurring. The species is still changing slowly over time.
 
2012-10-06 08:35:21 PM
leading anatomical experts

... meaning the pot-head cartoonist who wrote the article.
 
2012-10-06 08:48:30 PM
Good thing I wasn't expecting science from that article.
 
2012-10-06 08:59:05 PM

Myria: I'm more worried that civilization won't last another thousand years. At some point, we're going to run out of fossil fuels. With a good replacement looking unlikely, that would probably result in starvation of billions from the inability to use machines to run our massive farms.


lol wut?
i46.tinypic.com

Even if we stopped inventing better methods of producing energy right this second, we're absolutely fine.  Solar is the simplest solution, and it's not an unreasonable investment.
 
2012-10-06 09:10:08 PM
Kill us with fire!
 
2012-10-06 10:26:01 PM
Funny logo placement. I thought that's where the sun *didn't* shine.
 
2012-10-06 10:31:50 PM

Chicken Soda: Kill us with fire!


Can't believe this didn't come up earlier. +1, I lol'd.
 
2012-10-06 10:56:02 PM

strutin: NoWhiskeyWeGoNow: [www.dvdjournal.com image 350x252] 

More obscure?

sixth finger?


David McCallum in Outer Limits 196?. One of the best episodes.
 
2012-10-06 10:57:34 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Myria: I'm more worried that civilization won't last another thousand years. At some point, we're going to run out of fossil fuels. With a good replacement looking unlikely, that would probably result in starvation of billions from the inability to use machines to run our massive farms.

lol wut?
[i46.tinypic.com image 850x600]

Even if we stopped inventing better methods of producing energy right this second, we're absolutely fine.  Solar is the simplest solution, and it's not an unreasonable investment.


simplistic picture is simplistic.

It "assumes" all transportation can be converted to electric. Without extended range and quick recharge, this will never happen. A tractor-trailer going 600 miles per day would have to haul nothing but batteries. As a commuter vehicle, sure. a 50 mile range electric eco-box works okay for a lot of people... until you have an emergency and have to travel unexpectedly after you've already burned your 50 miles.

also, take into account the mining necessary for battery production.

give me a electric car with a 350 mile range (at 75 mph) and a universal battery pack that can be swapped out at any service station in 3 minutes, and I'll consider ditching internal combustion in favor of electric.
 
2012-10-06 11:14:47 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: It "assumes" all transportation can be converted to electric.


actually, yes, that's the fourth bullet point on the bottom, it's been accounted for by the U.S. Dept of energy.

The_Original_Roxtar: also, take into account the mining necessary for battery production.


There's more than enough resources in the U.S. alone. The minerals simply weren't cost effective to mine until just recently.

The_Original_Roxtar: give me a electric car with a 350 mile range (at 75 mph) and a universal battery pack that can be swapped out at any service station in 3 minutes, and I'll consider ditching internal combustion in favor of electric.


Technologies already exist that could carry the power and be recharged in a shockingly short period of time, however our patent system is being used to suppress this technology.
 
2012-10-06 11:15:54 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Myria: I'm more worried that civilization won't last another thousand years. At some point, we're going to run out of fossil fuels. With a good replacement looking unlikely, that would probably result in starvation of billions from the inability to use machines to run our massive farms.

lol wut?
[i46.tinypic.com image 850x600]

Even if we stopped inventing better methods of producing energy right this second, we're absolutely fine.  Solar is the simplest solution, and it's not an unreasonable investment.


Other than the technology not existing to make this happen, the politics involved with putting a solar power plan in Northern Africa that will power all of Europe is absurd, or having the majority of United States power production in single spot is equally crazy. Disasters, accidents, and terrorists happen. Trying to build a redundant grid with such centralized production would be more expensive than could be funded, and it could never be protected. A storm in middle America could blackout the entire east cost.
 
2012-10-06 11:23:30 PM

king_nacho: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Myria: I'm more worried that civilization won't last another thousand years. At some point, we're going to run out of fossil fuels. With a good replacement looking unlikely, that would probably result in starvation of billions from the inability to use machines to run our massive farms.

lol wut?
[i46.tinypic.com image 850x600]

Even if we stopped inventing better methods of producing energy right this second, we're absolutely fine.  Solar is the simplest solution, and it's not an unreasonable investment.

Other than the technology not existing to make this happen, the politics involved with putting a solar power plan in Northern Africa that will power all of Europe is absurd, or having the majority of United States power production in single spot is equally crazy. Disasters, accidents, and terrorists happen. Trying to build a redundant grid with such centralized production would be more expensive than could be funded, and it could never be protected. A storm in middle America could blackout the entire east cost.


*Sigh*, that's just a generalization. It doesn't have to be a single solar panel the size of Rhode Island in the middle of North Africa. It's just a graphic to give the general placement and land area to achieve the desired effect. It can be far more decentralized and more fault tolerant.
 
2012-10-06 11:24:17 PM

king_nacho: Other than the technology not existing to make this happen,


Oh, and that's an absolute lie...
 
2012-10-07 12:19:18 AM
Karl Pilkington wrote this article.

Link
 
2012-10-07 01:47:26 AM
why does this crap even exist -_-

it's a shame it's so taboo to dig up ruins, I'd love to see how different we looked 1000 years ago.
 
2012-10-07 03:21:05 AM

enderthexenocide: i'm actually curious about how our bodies would evolve once we leave earth and start living in space in zero gravity.


i see what you did there
 
2012-10-07 07:37:18 AM
It was nice of them to PS out the Obamaphone from it's hand.
 
2012-10-07 11:56:08 AM
www.dvdjournal.com

More obscure?


Outer Limits? No way obscure. Actor David McCallum - also played Illya Kuryakin in The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

Get off my lawn.

/no, seriously
 
2012-10-07 04:11:11 PM
idk but I have the weirdest boner right now..
 
2012-10-07 10:26:42 PM
The evolutionary "choices" made will be determined by genetic traits which are survivable until the point people have children. Modern science and medicine being what it is, just about everything is survivable until that point. Whether or not the individuals can have reproductive sex is pretty much the key question here, but also the frequency in which they reproduce and spread the particular genes they carry.

The movie 'Idiocracy" suggests that less intelligent, less successful, and/or less morally upright folks, can have an awful lot of offspring in comparison to people who realistically evaluate the financial implications of having children, and/or work to create a suitable nest egg, etc.. If this is true, just look to Walmart customers to see the direction of future human development.

Since most guys in high school will sleep with "anyone they can convince into bed" and most girls have their first encounters at a young age, coupled with what I suppose will eventually be a lack of legal abortions, I guess that the genetic traits that support being gullible, whorish, alcoholic, and easy will become the genetic traits that will see a lot of action in terms of natural selection.
 
2012-10-07 10:29:00 PM
Ducky. David McCallum is Ducky.
 
2012-10-07 11:46:17 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: The_Original_Roxtar: It "assumes" all transportation can be converted to electric.

actually, yes, that's the fourth bullet point on the bottom, it's been accounted for by the U.S. Dept of energy.


there is currently no feasible electric replacement for the jet airplane. so their "projections" and "accounting for" the difference is bullshiat.
"how much electricity does it take to get me from DC to London in 7 hours?"
the answer: infinite... because the technology does not currently exist. no matter how much solar electricity you throw at the "get TOR from DC to London in 7 hours" problem, you will fall short unless you build a lot more infrastructure. Vactrain could fit the bill (maglev trains in a vacuum tunnel), but the infrastructure isn't there, so all cost equivalences are a guess.
 
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