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(CNN)   Thirty+ car pileup on I-75 near Sarasota. Looks like the old folks did their Sunday driving a couple days early   (cnn.com) divider line 67
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2012-10-05 08:11:01 PM
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Contributing factor.
 
2012-10-05 08:15:10 PM
It's Floriduh. Traffic probably slowed down to 90mph for the storm and some old shiat pulled into the left lane doing 45.
 
2012-10-05 08:18:15 PM
I stop feeling bad for the folks about 4 cars in.
 
2012-10-05 08:21:02 PM
Self driving cars, no doubt.
I saw one today, He was coming at me @ 50 with his head down. Looked up from his texting to look at me going the other way.
Then back down.
I'm sure it was a self driving car.
 
2012-10-05 08:27:42 PM
Ugh. I wasn't anywhere near 75 and it still took me an hour to get home. Traffic was crazy all the way to 301.
 
2012-10-05 08:28:14 PM
No reports if all the vehicles involved had the blinkers on and early bird dinner coupons on the dashboard.
 
2012-10-05 08:32:47 PM

Nick Nostril: It's Floriduh. Traffic probably slowed down to 90mph for the storm and some old shiat pulled into the left lane doing 45.


I'm willing to bet the first car that got hit was the one who slowed down to 45 mph and put his hazards on because rain.

/a-holes do that all the time on the interstate when it rains around here.
//Florida I95
 
2012-10-05 08:36:48 PM
Shut up dumbasses! That section of I-95 is busy and thunderstorms in this area can come up suddenly and reduce visibility to the hood of your car. Old people have nothing to do with it.
 
2012-10-05 08:37:04 PM
A 30 vehicle pileup implies that at least 28 people were driving too closely to each other...
 
2012-10-05 08:38:09 PM
im going to bet it was actually a canadian tourist; they always go super slow in the fast lanes. also, sarasota is in the heart of the snowbird belt and it's too early in the year for them so if not canadian tourist, then definitely a tourist was near the root of the matter...
 
2012-10-05 08:41:21 PM
Having much experience driving all over the country, I can say this doesn't surprise me in the least.

Florida drivers are in the top 5 of worst by state. They have even less courtesy for faster traffic than the rest of the already pathetically selfish country, they drive slower than the speed limit, and on top of it, they feel entitled when doing so.

If you're curious, my top 5 worst states for driving would go;

1. Tennessee - because Truckers and the way Nashville has the most poorly designed freeway system in existence
2. Florida - see above
3. Missouri - Midwest drivers just go super slow
4. Georga - Roads are way too small, don't follow any logical path, and every road is Peachtree street
5. New Jersey - The drivers are just dicks, but at least they don't go slow and occasionally get over
 
2012-10-05 08:41:39 PM

FloridaAsshat: Shut up dumbasses! That section of I-95 is busy and thunderstorms in this area can come up suddenly and reduce visibility to the hood of your car. Old people have nothing to do with it.


Driving with 0 visibility, however...
 
2012-10-05 08:42:17 PM
Apparently they were all texting.
 
2012-10-05 08:44:13 PM

justtray: 1. Tennessee - because Truckers and the way Nashville has the most poorly designed freeway system in existence


Atlanta has Nashville beat every time.

I'd say ATL has the worst road system in the nation.

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2012-10-05 08:45:14 PM

justtray: Having much experience driving all over the country, I can say this doesn't surprise me in the least.

Florida drivers are in the top 5 of worst by state. They have even less courtesy for faster traffic than the rest of the already pathetically selfish country, they drive slower than the speed limit, and on top of it, they feel entitled when doing so.

If you're curious, my top 5 worst states for driving would go;

1. Tennessee - because Truckers and the way Nashville has the most poorly designed freeway system in existence
2. Florida - see above
3. Missouri - Midwest drivers just go super slow
4. Georga - Roads are way too small, don't follow any logical path, and every road is Peachtree street
5. New Jersey - The drivers are just dicks, but at least they don't go slow and occasionally get over


Canada is to the north, mexico to the south.
 
2012-10-05 08:48:13 PM
justtray: ... they drive slower than the speed limit, and on top of it, they feel entitled when doing so.


Bullshiat. Traffic routinely flows along that particular section of I-95 at at least 70/75 mph, which is over the speed limit. And yes, we are entitled to do it because suck it, that's why.
 
2012-10-05 08:49:57 PM

BronyMedic: justtray: 1. Tennessee - because Truckers and the way Nashville has the most poorly designed freeway system in existence

Atlanta has Nashville beat every time.

I'd say ATL has the worst road system in the nation.

[www.virtualinsanity.com image 495x640]


Worked at Emory for a while. Holy hell, driving from downtown to the campus could easily take over an hour, and it was only about 5 miles away. The side roads are so narrow that when a bus is next to you, you basically have to into oncoming traffic to get around. Not to mention the fact that there's no grid system so roads just change direction whenever the hell they feel like it.

But as for freeway systems, Nashville's freeway split system back to back to back every couple miles in downtown is worst planning possible. Whoever thought forcing large quantities of traffic to have to get from the far right to the far left and vice versa every couple miles should have been taken to the street and shot.
 
2012-10-05 08:52:11 PM
FTA: "Weather was a contributing factor."
I hate when they report that shiat. Weather wasn't the factor. Millikons of people drive every frickin day in all kinds of weather wkithout any damn problem.
The factor is dipshiats not paying attenion to what the fark they are doing. Unfortunetly they almost always collect somebody else upinto (^in2) their crap.
 
2012-10-05 08:53:50 PM

FloridaAsshat: justtray: ... they drive slower than the speed limit, and on top of it, they feel entitled when doing so.


Bullshiat. Traffic routinely flows along that particular section of I-95 at at least 70/75 mph, which is over the speed limit. And yes, we are entitled to do it because suck it, that's why.


I didn't think anything could match the roadrage I received driving through the country in Tennessee when two truckers would line up blocking the road going 55, but driving through Broward County managed to give me a whole new perspective. 95 wasn't so bad in my experience, but Route 1 was a farking trainwreck, every day.
 
2012-10-05 08:56:37 PM

vudukungfu: FloridaAsshat: Shut up dumbasses! That section of I-95 is busy and thunderstorms in this area can come up suddenly and reduce visibility to the hood of your car. Old people have nothing to do with it.

Driving with 0 visibility, however...


OK while that might seem reckless to an outsider... thunderstorms (especially in the summer, which it still is) can reduce visibility to 0 in less time than it takes to slow down and pull off the Interstate. Not that there aren't a lot of idiot drivers in Florida, but Florida isn't unique in that. We've got plenty of unique craziness to be proud of without having to rely on bad driving stories.
 
2012-10-05 08:57:23 PM

FloridaAsshat: justtray: ... they drive slower than the speed limit, and on top of it, they feel entitled when doing so.


Bullshiat. Traffic routinely flows along that particular section of I-95 at at least 70/75 mph, which is over the speed limit. And yes, we are entitled to do it because suck it, that's why.


I-95?

Traffic on 41 was still stacked up in Sarasota at 6PM
 
2012-10-05 08:58:15 PM

FloridaAsshat: justtray: ... they drive slower than the speed limit, and on top of it, they feel entitled when doing so.


Bullshiat. Traffic routinely flows along that particular section of I-95I-75 at at least 70/75 mph, which is over the speed limit. And yes, we are entitled to do it because suck it, that's why.


FTF me
 
2012-10-05 09:01:38 PM
My husband was coming home from Sarasota (heading North) and got a feeling that he should take US41 instead of the interstate. He probably would have been held up for hours... in a dump truck that's prone to overheating (he's a tree trimmer). I'm so glad he decided to take the "long" way home. I heard the Northbound lanes had several smaller pile-ups caused by rubberneckers.
 
2012-10-05 09:02:51 PM

BronyMedic: justtray: 1. Tennessee - because Truckers and the way Nashville has the most poorly designed freeway system in existence

Atlanta has Nashville beat every time.

I'd say ATL has the worst road system in the nation.


What does a triage tag have to do with driving?
 
2012-10-05 09:03:26 PM

justtray: BronyMedic: justtray: 1. Tennessee - because Truckers and the way Nashville has the most poorly designed freeway system in existence

Atlanta has Nashville beat every time.

I'd say ATL has the worst road system in the nation.

[www.virtualinsanity.com image 495x640]

Worked at Emory for a while. Holy hell, driving from downtown to the campus could easily take over an hour, and it was only about 5 miles away. The side roads are so narrow that when a bus is next to you, you basically have to into oncoming traffic to get around. Not to mention the fact that there's no grid system so roads just change direction whenever the hell they feel like it.

But as for freeway systems, Nashville's freeway split system back to back to back every couple miles in downtown is worst planning possible. Whoever thought forcing large quantities of traffic to have to get from the far right to the far left and vice versa every couple miles should have been taken to the street and shot.


Agreed, Atlanta has some of the worst road design possible (speaking as a civil/transpo engineer). Routing the perimeter onto a major interstate (400) through 1 lane on a sharp turn and a forced merge? Into the fast lane? Somebody was drunk when they thought that one up...
But at least when flash storms come up most of our drivers know to gradually slow down as a group to a reasonable speed. I can't say the same for FL. There seem to be 2 speeds in Florida. 90+ and (dead) stopped
 
2012-10-05 09:06:12 PM

FloridaAsshat: We've got plenty of unique craziness to be proud of without having to rely on bad driving stories.


Hell, you've even got your own FARK tag,
 
2012-10-05 09:14:07 PM
FTFA:
Twenty-two people, three of them in critical condition, were taken to area hospitals, he said. None of the injuries was considered life-threatening, he said.

How does that work? I thought the definition of critical condition was that it was life-threatening?
 
2012-10-05 09:18:52 PM

BronyMedic: justtray: 1. Tennessee - because Truckers and the way Nashville has the most poorly designed freeway system in existence

Atlanta has Nashville beat every time.

I'd say ATL has the worst road system in the nation.

[www.virtualinsanity.com image 495x640]


Having spent 8 hours driving on I-75 today, several of them in ATL traffic jams, I'm getting a kick out of this thread...

/FL crash certainly weather related, hell it's only been raining for 5 days straight down there 
//ATL needs some sort of super bypass highway outside 285. Or flying cars.
 
2012-10-05 09:26:18 PM
I know they say to stay in your car but if I'm ever in an accident on a major highway and I'm able then I'm getting the fark out of dodge. As far away from the road as I can possibly get. Shiat like this proves that people are just going to plow right into you if you're anywhere near it and I'm sure as shiat not ending up in some crappy Final Destination sequel.
 
2012-10-05 09:32:13 PM
I hate driving on I-75. Worse than I-4 even...

It's only 2 lanes for most of it and people are either going drastically under the speed limit, or they are flying and weaving in and out of traffic. Throw those sporadic thunderstorms in and you've got disaster.


Having lived in Florida for over 5 years now, I can definitely say... the old and slow drivers of Florida are mostly a myth.
 
2012-10-05 09:36:03 PM

arghyematey: I hate driving on I-75. Worse than I-4 even...

It's only 2 lanes for most of it and people are either going drastically under the speed limit, or they are flying and weaving in and out of traffic. Throw those sporadic thunderstorms in and you've got disaster.


Having lived in Florida for over 5 years now, I can definitely say... the old and slow drivers of Florida are mostly a myth.


They do exist, they just stay off the interstates. 

The interstates themselves are basically extensions of Daytona Motor Speedway.
 
2012-10-05 09:42:58 PM
3 were in critical condition, yet there were no life threatening injuries? How does that work?
 
2012-10-05 10:01:03 PM

Mrtraveler01: arghyematey: I hate driving on I-75. Worse than I-4 even...

It's only 2 lanes for most of it and people are either going drastically under the speed limit, or they are flying and weaving in and out of traffic. Throw those sporadic thunderstorms in and you've got disaster.


Having lived in Florida for over 5 years now, I can definitely say... the old and slow drivers of Florida are mostly a myth.

They do exist, they just stay off the interstates. 

The interstates themselves are basically extensions of Daytona Motor Speedway.


This. I go 80 on 75, and I'm always getting passed. Not that I care, I'd probably be going faster too if it wasn't for all the speed traps.
 
2012-10-05 10:02:22 PM

libranoelrose: 3 were in critical condition, yet there were no life threatening injuries? How does that work?


It's Florida. They started out in critical condition.
 
2012-10-05 10:06:54 PM

FloridaAsshat: vudukungfu: FloridaAsshat: Shut up dumbasses! That section of I-95 is busy and thunderstorms in this area can come up suddenly and reduce visibility to the hood of your car. Old people have nothing to do with it.

Driving with 0 visibility, however...

OK while that might seem reckless to an outsider... thunderstorms (especially in the summer, which it still is) can reduce visibility to 0 in less time than it takes to slow down and pull off the Interstate. Not that there aren't a lot of idiot drivers in Florida, but Florida isn't unique in that. We've got plenty of unique craziness to be proud of without having to rely on bad driving stories.


This. The thunderstorms down here are the equivalent of a snowstorm whiteout on the interstate. Hell, sometimes you can't see the hazard lights on the car in front of you even at ten feet away. And the storms are packed into a very tight area. You can be traveling down the interstate at 70+ one minute and find yourself with zero vis in an instant. I can easily see this happening and frankly, am surprised it doesn't happen more often.

StrikitRich: FloridaAsshat: justtray: ... they drive slower than the speed limit, and on top of it, they feel entitled when doing so.


Bullshiat. Traffic routinely flows along that particular section of I-95 at at least 70/75 mph, which is over the speed limit. And yes, we are entitled to do it because suck it, that's why.

I-95?

Traffic on 41 was still stacked up in Sarasota at 6PM


I don't miss that commute in the least. I used to drive from NW Bradenton to right before Stickney Pt Rd on 41 five days a week. I swear it's one of Dante's circles of Hell.
 
2012-10-05 10:07:12 PM
Why traffic is horrible this time of year in Arizona:

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2012-10-05 10:08:28 PM

L.D. Ablo: Why traffic is horrible this time of year in Arizona:

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Wow, did Gov. Brewer get some work done?
She's looking good these days.
 
2012-10-05 10:10:19 PM

beerrun: FloridaAsshat: vudukungfu: FloridaAsshat: Shut up dumbasses! That section of I-95 is busy and thunderstorms in this area can come up suddenly and reduce visibility to the hood of your car. Old people have nothing to do with it.

Driving with 0 visibility, however...

OK while that might seem reckless to an outsider... thunderstorms (especially in the summer, which it still is) can reduce visibility to 0 in less time than it takes to slow down and pull off the Interstate. Not that there aren't a lot of idiot drivers in Florida, but Florida isn't unique in that. We've got plenty of unique craziness to be proud of without having to rely on bad driving stories.

This. The thunderstorms down here are the equivalent of a snowstorm whiteout on the interstate. Hell, sometimes you can't see the hazard lights on the car in front of you even at ten feet away. And the storms are packed into a very tight area. You can be traveling down the interstate at 70+ one minute and find yourself with zero vis in an instant. I can easily see this happening and frankly, am surprised it doesn't happen more often.

StrikitRich: FloridaAsshat: justtray: ... they drive slower than the speed limit, and on top of it, they feel entitled when doing so.


Bullshiat. Traffic routinely flows along that particular section of I-95 at at least 70/75 mph, which is over the speed limit. And yes, we are entitled to do it because suck it, that's why.

I-95?

Traffic on 41 was still stacked up in Sarasota at 6PM

I don't miss that commute in the least. I used to drive from NW Bradenton to right before Stickney Pt Rd on 41 five days a week. I swear it's one of Dante's circles of Hell.


Yeah, fark that! I did the same thing for a year, except I drove from NW Bradenton to Bee Ridge. When my work moved to Bee Ridge and 75 I moved near the interstate, and my precious 45 minute commute (if I was lucky) became 10 minutes.
 
2012-10-05 10:16:00 PM

justtray: FloridaAsshat: justtray: ... they drive slower than the speed limit, and on top of it, they feel entitled when doing so.


Bullshiat. Traffic routinely flows along that particular section of I-95 at at least 70/75 mph, which is over the speed limit. And yes, we are entitled to do it because suck it, that's why.

I didn't think anything could match the roadrage I received driving through the country in Tennessee when two truckers would line up blocking the road going 55, but driving through Broward County managed to give me a whole new perspective. 95 wasn't so bad in my experience, but Route 1 was a farking trainwreck, every day.


Which "Route 1," US1 or A1A?

Actually, never mind. They both suck. And you sound like you haven't been down here lately, else you'd be complaining about the construction that's going on as they add (toll) express lanes to 95 and 595.

/should be finished at some point year after next....
 
2012-10-05 10:16:10 PM
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Damn old people and their old cars!
 
2012-10-05 10:21:01 PM

arghyematey: I hate driving on I-75. Worse than I-4 even...

It's only 2 lanes for most of it and people are either going drastically under the speed limit, or they are flying and weaving in and out of traffic. Throw those sporadic thunderstorms in and you've got disaster.


Having lived in Florida for over 5 years now, I can definitely say... the old and slow drivers of Florida are mostly a myth.


They're widening I-75 at least as far north as Tampa, it might even go further (I haven't driven north of Tampa on 75 in years, not sure if it's already wider up there).

We get plenty of slow old drivers in SW FL, the areas with lower concentrations of midwestern retirees might not see it as much. As soon as I see a Buick, Town Car, Grand Marquis, or light colored Camry on the road ahead of me I immediately start planning on how I'm going to get around the inevitable traffic obstacle.
 
2012-10-05 10:26:47 PM

justtray: 1. Tennessee - because Truckers and the way Nashville has the most poorly designed freeway system in existence


I'm terribly sorry, but I am going to have to disagree with you.

I've been everywhere (man) and I really think that the Raleigh/Durham area has the worst signage, yield areas, layouts, and general build* that I have seen.

I-65 corridor is definitely a close 2nd. Although I think Louisville is just as bad.

*Off cambered ramps, ramps with VERY poor lighting and crap drainage systems, left hand exits and mixers, and ramps where the curve suddenly gets sharper for no apparent reason.
 
2012-10-05 10:38:19 PM

FloridaAsshat: Shut up dumbasses! That section of I-95 is busy and thunderstorms in this area can come up suddenly and reduce visibility to the hood of your car. Old people have nothing to do with it.


HAHAHAHAHA.. No

"The accident, which occurred about 3:30 p.m., involved at least 46 vehicles in the southbound lanes of I-75 on the Manatee/Sarasota county line, said Lt. Chris Miller with the Florida Highway Patrol. Twenty-two people, three of them in critical condition, were taken to area hospitals, he said."

If you are so detached from your environment that a storm can sneak up on you DURING THE DAYLIGHT you should NEVER EVER EVER be in charge of ANYTHING more complicated that tying your shoes.

You want me to believe that within the space of 10 seconds (Well within the average amount of time it takes to slow a car from 80mph to 30, and turn on your flashers) it went from unlimited viability to less than 5 feet with NO warning. None? No dark clouds in the sky, no thunder or lightning...no rain shaft visible ahead of you in the distance? Weather doesn't work that way. This is inattentive driving and/or driving too fast for conditions.

Before you tell me that I don't understand... I've been stormchaser, NWS Spotter, spent time in Florida, and I have seen tropical rain in Bali that makes what you get in Florida look like a lawn sprinkler.

There is no excuse for this. There is an explanation. Not paying attention to your surroundings.

If this had been at NIGHT ... I would agree that it can indeed sneak up on you, but not at 3pm.
 
2012-10-05 10:45:10 PM
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GET OFF THE STREETS!!!! OLD PEOPLE ARE DRIVING!!!!!
 
2012-10-05 10:50:17 PM
Who put a farmers market in the middle of the highway?
 
2012-10-05 10:53:33 PM

Shadow Blasko: FloridaAsshat: Shut up dumbasses! That section of I-95 is busy and thunderstorms in this area can come up suddenly and reduce visibility to the hood of your car. Old people have nothing to do with it.

HAHAHAHAHA.. No

"The accident, which occurred about 3:30 p.m., involved at least 46 vehicles in the southbound lanes of I-75 on the Manatee/Sarasota county line, said Lt. Chris Miller with the Florida Highway Patrol. Twenty-two people, three of them in critical condition, were taken to area hospitals, he said."

If you are so detached from your environment that a storm can sneak up on you DURING THE DAYLIGHT you should NEVER EVER EVER be in charge of ANYTHING more complicated that tying your shoes.

You want me to believe that within the space of 10 seconds (Well within the average amount of time it takes to slow a car from 80mph to 30, and turn on your flashers) it went from unlimited viability to less than 5 feet with NO warning. None? No dark clouds in the sky, no thunder or lightning...no rain shaft visible ahead of you in the distance? Weather doesn't work that way. This is inattentive driving and/or driving too fast for conditions.

Before you tell me that I don't understand... I've been stormchaser, NWS Spotter, spent time in Florida, and I have seen tropical rain in Bali that makes what you get in Florida look like a lawn sprinkler.

There is no excuse for this. There is an explanation. Not paying attention to your surroundings.

If this had been at NIGHT ... I would agree that it can indeed sneak up on you, but not at 3pm.


The weather was fine when the accident occurred.
 
2012-10-05 11:03:56 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Shadow Blasko: FloridaAsshat: Shut up dumbasses! That section of I-95 is busy and thunderstorms in this area can come up suddenly and reduce visibility to the hood of your car. Old people have nothing to do with it.

HAHAHAHAHA.. No

"The accident, which occurred about 3:30 p.m., involved at least 46 vehicles in the southbound lanes of I-75 on the Manatee/Sarasota county line, said Lt. Chris Miller with the Florida Highway Patrol. Twenty-two people, three of them in critical condition, were taken to area hospitals, he said."

If you are so detached from your environment that a storm can sneak up on you DURING THE DAYLIGHT you should NEVER EVER EVER be in charge of ANYTHING more complicated that tying your shoes.

You want me to believe that within the space of 10 seconds (Well within the average amount of time it takes to slow a car from 80mph to 30, and turn on your flashers) it went from unlimited viability to less than 5 feet with NO warning. None? No dark clouds in the sky, no thunder or lightning...no rain shaft visible ahead of you in the distance? Weather doesn't work that way. This is inattentive driving and/or driving too fast for conditions.

Before you tell me that I don't understand... I've been stormchaser, NWS Spotter, spent time in Florida, and I have seen tropical rain in Bali that makes what you get in Florida look like a lawn sprinkler.

There is no excuse for this. There is an explanation. Not paying attention to your surroundings.

If this had been at NIGHT ... I would agree that it can indeed sneak up on you, but not at 3pm.

The weather was fine when the accident occurred.


Local TV seems to be implying that it was stormy when the accident occured.
 
2012-10-05 11:12:47 PM

kpaxoid: libranoelrose: 3 were in critical condition, yet there were no life threatening injuries? How does that work?
It's Florida. They started out in critical condition.


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2012-10-05 11:21:10 PM

BronyMedic: justtray: 1. Tennessee - because Truckers and the way Nashville has the most poorly designed freeway system in existence

Atlanta has Nashville beat every time.

I'd say ATL has the worst road system in the nation.

[www.virtualinsanity.com image 495x640]


I must be the only person in the world that likes driving in ATL.

Pay attention (at least 5 cars up) and go fast. I like those rules.

Chicago seems to be me to be the worst very high traffic city to drive in.

I also like the fast that it becomes "canadian style" law enforcement. "We don't really care how fast you are going, as long as you are maintaining the flow of traffic, not tailgating or constantly switching lanes"

At least, until someone messes it up, and then its stop and go for an hour or two.
 
2012-10-05 11:24:55 PM
They were in a hurry to get to the IHOP or Denny's special. Really, what kind of universal crapshoot ends with 50 cars playing demolition derby? EVERYONE was too close for sure, or there was some poor soul who hit the brakes in time but some dumbass hit and pushed them into another car. Wouldn't want to be the highway patrol and insurance companies to sort out the initiator. But the ground zero person knows.
 
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