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(AP)   "Seal Team Six: The Raid on Osama bin Laden" film will be conveniently released two days before the election to remind voters who brought the terrorist to justice   (hosted.ap.org ) divider line
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2012-10-05 09:20:37 PM  
8 votes:

Say hello to Citizens United, you whiny frogballs.

2012-10-05 10:03:59 PM  
5 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


Besides, y'know, ordering the raid in the first place (as opposed to a drone strike, which would have, among other things, destroyed the treasure-trove of intel they grabbed), ordering they bring an extra helicopter (which ended up saving the mission), and just generally being COMMANDER-IN-FARKING-CHIEF.

If Jimmy Carter was responsible for the farked up hostage rescue, and if Osama himself was responsible for 9/11, Barack Obama was responsible for taking out Osama bin Laden. And before you spout the tired old "Any President would have done the same" horseshiat, keep in mind that his opponents explicitly said they would NOT DO WHAT HE DID.

Republicans are weak on defense..
2012-10-05 10:31:12 PM  
3 votes:
It's funny that the GOP gets upset when the Dems use the same tactics against them.

My local ABC station is owned by Sinclair Broadcasting which is a big cheerleader for the GOP. In 2004, they forced all the stations they own including my local ABC to preempt primetime programming to air a documentary that basically called John Kerry a traitor.

Karma is a biatch huh Republicans?
2012-10-05 10:22:29 PM  
3 votes:

fickenchucker: gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?

FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.

/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


If we were serious about being fiscally responsible, the military budget and corporate subsidies would be first in line for cuts, and taxes would be back to Clinton levels, if not higher. Then, MAYBE, after we do that (as well as raise the minimum wage to create demand, (because supply-side economics is laughably idiotic), cut loopholes and tax breaks for corporations (ESPECIALLY ones that send jobs overseas), and just basically throw out every single Republican 'idea' they've shat out since Ronnie), we can look at PBS.
2012-10-05 10:00:31 PM  
3 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.

...and you're point here is...?

seriously. even if this is 'propaganda', so what? it's entirely legal.

You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.


I don't think Obama funded this film. And it really doesn't matter what you or I think about it...because the law says that political parties (and corporations) can spend unlimited amounts of cash to 'spread propaganda' about their candidates. thems the rules my friend, and the conservative wing of the US Supreme court said it's legal.

you could write to Justice Scalia about it. i'm sure he'll get right on that for you.
2012-10-05 09:57:36 PM  
3 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.


Where does it say that Obama was a part of this movie? He didn't direct it, he didn't write it, he didn't cast it, he didn't edit it, he didn't produce it, he's not in charge of special effects, he didn't run the craft services truck, HE ISN'T PART OF THE PRODUCTION.

BTW, he also doesn't make programming choices at National Geographic Channel. You know WHY they're airing it right before the election? So that people will WATCH it. It's a financial decision made by the network to take advantage of the most opportune time to air the show.
2012-10-05 09:32:16 PM  
3 votes:

Non-evil Monkey: I think it's less people honestly think Romney deserves more credit and more the fact that a disturbingly high number of Republicans cannot bring themselves to give Obama credit for anything positive.


That's what's so farked up. After 9/11, Bush had a 90% approval rating. If he got Bin Laden, his birthday would have been a national holiday. But instead he said, "fark Bin Laden, I don't give a shiat". So Obama decided Bin Laden was a priority after all and after a year of intelligence gathering he took a chance and made the call. And Republicans are all like, "fark all that". They won't give him an inch.
2012-10-05 09:24:41 PM  
3 votes:

Chariset: fusillade762: Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?

The FARK?!

15% of Ohio survey takers are either really ignorant or world-class trolls.


I think it's less people honestly think Romney deserves more credit and more the fact that a disturbingly high number of Republicans cannot bring themselves to give Obama credit for anything positive.

While I'd have to see exactly how the question was worded to be sure, I shudder to think what sort of mental gymnastics are needed for someone to think an ex-governor who currently has no formal political authority whatsoever could possibly be more responsible for taking down Bin Laden then the sitting president of the united States.

Even if all Obama did was sit back and let other people do their jobs, he'd still be more responsible for Osama's death simply because he had a much greater ability to fark up the operation then Romney ever did.
2012-10-05 08:43:18 PM  
3 votes:
"We are opportunistic from a programming perspective"

That's refreshingly blunt.


eraser8: I watched the October 3 presidential debate pretty carefully. I'm pretty sure Mr. Romney claimed that he was responsible for the decision to undertake the raid.


Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?
2012-10-06 12:26:40 PM  
2 votes:
What Republicans believe:

Obama plans and is responsible for every detail of gun sting operations even ones using tactics started in the Bush administration.

BUT

Obama has no idea and no input for a military operation going inside another sovereign country to get Osama Bin Laden.

THIS IS WHAT REPUBLICANS BELIEVE!!!
2012-10-06 10:48:52 AM  
2 votes:

Aidan: fusillade762: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?

The question was "Who do you think deserves (*) more (*) credit for the killing of bin Laden; Obama or Romney?" The answers were only A) Obama B) Romney C) Unsure.

If you go "WTF, it was Seal Team Rainbow (or whatever)", then it was probably unsure. If you go "Well it wasn't farking Obama!", then you probably get recorded as Romney. It gets worse when you consider how the starred words are vague and misleading in the first place and could easily be over-emphasized.


As someone who worked as a pollster for a while... nope. Putting down an answer that the respondent didn't say was instant termination for falsifying data. The correct response to someone who said, "Well it wasn't farking Obama!" would be to say, "OK, but if you had to choose one of these options, would you say Obama, Romney, or you're not sure?"
2012-10-06 03:43:22 AM  
2 votes:
Why would republicans get upset? According to the Fark right wingers it went like this:

High Ranking Military officer: Mr. President we found all of the Bush evidence he got by torture and we know his location and we also have Bush's plan of getting Osama Bin Laden, it was behind the couch in the oval office all this time. All we need to do is you give us the OK!

Obama: NO! Do NOT go after Osama Bin Laden, that's an order!

High Ranking Military officer: Sorry Mr. president I can't do that. Come with us, we are going to go after Osama Bin Laden!

Obama: As president I command you NOT TO GO AFTER OSAMA BIN LADEN!

High Ranking Military officer: Sorry Mr. President but we must. Follow us to the situation room. We also kidnapped Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.

*pushes Obama in room forces him to sit down*

*operation continues*

High Ranking Military officer: Oh my God, there is Osama Bin Laden he is completely nude, with his hands up and, giving himself up, they gave us no Resistance at all. Let's take him into custody.

Obama: No shot him in COLD BLOOD!!!

High Ranking Military officer: What Mr. President he let us in with no gunfire, you didn't want to do this in the first place and now that he has given himself up with no resistance at all you want our guys to kill him in cold blood.

Obama: YES! That's what I want!! Shoot him in the head and then shoot others there to pretend they were in a gun fight.

High Ranking Military officer: But sir, that would be murdering someone in cold blood and lying to the American people.

Obama: Yes it would AND THAT'S AN ORDER. MHUAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

*fade to black*

Yeah according to the right wing Farkers that is how it went down.
2012-10-06 12:09:53 AM  
2 votes:

Brick-House: Mrtraveler01: I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him

Citation???


Donald Rumsfeld from starters

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through "normal interrogation approaches" and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a "myth."


McCain

Waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques were not a factor in tracking down Osama bin Laden, a leading Republican senator insisted Thursday.

Sen. John McCain, who spent 5½ years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, also rejected the argument that any form of torture is critical to U.S. success in the fight against terrorism.
Trump: 'Torture' led to catching bin Laden

In an impassioned speech on the Senate floor, the Arizona Republican said former Attorney General Michael Mukasey and others who supported those kind of measures were wrong to claim that waterboarding al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, provided information that led to bin Laden's compound in Pakistan.
 

And more!

A group of former US military interrogators are pushing back against the notion that Bush administration "enhanced interrogation techniques" - which many consider to be torture - led to the intelligence that helped US officials locate Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Some US military intelligence officials also lament that bin Laden was not taken alive - and privately wonder whether concerns about the political "headaches" involved in trying detainees may have led the Obama administration to favor killing rather than capturing the architect of 9/11.

The opportunity to glean valuable intelligence from the leader of a powerful terrorist organization was lost, says retired Army Col. Stuart Herrington, a military intelligence specialist who interrogated generals under the command of Saddam Hussein and evaluated US detention operations at Guantánamo.
2012-10-05 10:25:31 PM  
2 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.



Presidents make the big military decisions. Whether it's taking a chance on a military raid against a major target or pushing through the invasion and occupation of an entire nation.

Presidents make these calls, and they make them alone. Any attempt to distract from this fundamental and crucial fact is illogical. Did he lead the assault himself? No. Could the raid have taken place without his authorization? Not a chance.
2012-10-05 10:23:57 PM  
2 votes:
fickenchucker
FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.
/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


So the Iraqi war budget is off the books and that counts against Obama?

/Tired of Republicans counting one emotional cent against the entire dollar to make emotional facts against reality to justify their reality to those that only watch Fox News for facts.
2012-10-05 10:23:02 PM  
2 votes:

fickenchucker: /Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


We've only got 99.988% of the budget left to tackle!
2012-10-05 10:16:08 PM  
2 votes:

Enemabag Jones: sno man,
If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?

Obama is a democrat who happens to fail the 1/8 drop rule...anything positive he does is accidental was really done by Republicans

Anything negative is his problem.


FTFY.
2012-10-05 10:03:42 PM  
2 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: Mikey1969: BTW, he also doesn't make programming choices at National Geographic Channel. You know WHY they're airing it right before the election? So that people will WATCH it. It's a financial decision made by the network to take advantage of the most opportune time to air the show.

You are right. There is no connection between this president and Hollywood. Nope, none at all.


upload.wikimedia.orgupload.wikimedia.orggraphics8.nytimes.com
2012-10-05 10:02:27 PM  
2 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


upload.wikimedia.org
2012-10-05 09:59:44 PM  
2 votes:

born_yesterday: Okay, so Obama gave the order and took all of the geopolitical risk. So what else did he do?

Did he get a good shot of his best drive off the tee?


Help plan the mission and added input that probably saved lives. Cite.
2012-10-05 09:56:29 PM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: link: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.


How the fark does this happen? What the fark, America? He's not even an employee of our government. How the fark do 1/6 of us believe that he's more responsible for this than the farking COMMANDER IN CHIEF???? COMMANDER IN CHIEF..... AS IN THE TOP POSITION OF THE farkING UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES......

/fark I am do disgusted with this country I was born in
2012-10-05 09:55:38 PM  
2 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.


No this is

www.allamericanblogger.com
2012-10-05 09:53:36 PM  
2 votes:

Free_Chilly_Willy: You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.


What do you think ANY and EVERY modern political campaign by both major parties in this country does? Use the media to influence elections. That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.
2012-10-05 09:43:34 PM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?


The question was "Who do you think deserves (*) more (*) credit for the killing of bin Laden; Obama or Romney?" The answers were only A) Obama B) Romney C) Unsure.

If you go "WTF, it was Seal Team Rainbow (or whatever)", then it was probably unsure. If you go "Well it wasn't farking Obama!", then you probably get recorded as Romney. It gets worse when you consider how the starred words are vague and misleading in the first place and could easily be over-emphasized.
2012-10-05 09:40:29 PM  
2 votes:

born_yesterday: Okay, so Obama gave the order and took all of the geopolitical risk. So what else did he do?

Did he get a good shot of his best drive off the tee?


I know that projection is standard operating procedure for republicans but it's not the best idea to go the "Presidential vacation" route.
2012-10-06 03:33:39 PM  
1 vote:

Aidan: HeartBurnKid: As someone who worked as a pollster for a while... nope. Putting down an answer that the respondent didn't say was instant termination for falsifying data. The correct response to someone who said, "Well it wasn't farking Obama!" would be to say, "OK, but if you had to choose one of these options, would you say Obama, Romney, or you're not sure?"

I'm very glad to hear that. You understand why I find this poll suspicious though, yeah?


I definitely understand. I'd like to think that nobody could be that stupid and/or partisan, myself.
2012-10-06 03:32:01 PM  
1 vote:

hbk72777: Seal Team 6 killed Bin Laden. Obama didn't do shiat


By that logic, Bin Laden didn't do anything wrong and Seal Team 6 killed an innocent man.
2012-10-06 02:26:25 PM  
1 vote:

o5iiawah: So its Donald Rumsfeld's word vs Leon Pannetta - and you trust Rumsfeld. Let me laugh harder.


Actually, Panetta agrees with Rumsfeld, according to the WaPo link posted earlier:

Nearly 10 years of intensive intelligence work led the CIA to conclude that Bin Ladin was likely hiding at the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. there was no one "essential and indispensible" key piece of information that led us to this conclusion. Rather, the intelligence picture was developed via painstaking collection and analysis. Multiple streams of intelligence - including from detainees, but also from multiple other sources - led CIA analysts to conclude that Bin Ladin was at this compound. Some of the detainees who provided useful information about the facilitator/courier's role had been subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques. Whether those techniques were the "only timely and effective way" to obtain such information is a matter of debate and cannot be established definitively. What is definitive is that that information was only a part of multiple streams of intelligence that led us to Bin Ladin.

Let me further point out that we first learned about the facilitator/courier's nom de guerre from a detainee not in CIA custody in 2002. It is also important to note that some detainees who were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques attempted to provide false or misleading information about the facilitator/courier. These attempts to falsify the facilitator/courier's role were alerting.

In the end, no detainee in CIA custody revealed the facilitator/courier's full true name or specific whereabouts. This information was discovered through other intelligence means.


Care to continue to be wrong or are you done now?
2012-10-06 02:01:32 PM  
1 vote:

o5iiawah: cameroncrazy1984: o5iiawah: he intel presence in the area along with AIT conducted during the Bush administration produced the name of the package boy

No it didn't.

Enhanced interrogation techniques" were used to extract information that led to the mission's success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged. Source

Do you get off on being intentionally wrong?


Do YOU get off on being intentionally wrong?


Donald Rumsfeld from starters

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through "normal interrogation approaches" and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a "myth."

McCain

Waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques were not a factor in tracking down Osama bin Laden, a leading Republican senator insisted Thursday.

Sen. John McCain, who spent 5½ years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, also rejected the argument that any form of torture is critical to U.S. success in the fight against terrorism.
Trump: 'Torture' led to catching bin Laden

In an impassioned speech on the Senate floor, the Arizona Republican said former Attorney General Michael Mukasey and others who supported those kind of measures were wrong to claim that waterboarding al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, provided information that led to bin Laden's compound in Pakistan.

And more!

A group of former US military interrogators are pushing back against the notion that Bush administration "enhanced interrogation techniques" - which many consider to be torture - led to the intelligence that helped US officials locate Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Some US military intelligence officials also lament that bin Laden was not taken alive - and privately wonder whether concerns about the political "headaches" involved in trying detainees may have led the Obama administration to favor killing rather than capturing the architect of 9/11.

The opportunity to glean valuable intelligence from the leader of a powerful terrorist organization was lost, says retired Army Col. Stuart Herrington, a military intelligence specialist who interrogated generals under the command of Saddam Hussein and evaluated US detention operations at Guantánamo.
2012-10-06 01:15:44 PM  
1 vote:

hbk72777: Seal Team 6 killed Bin Laden. Obama didn't do shiat


A bunch of Saudis did 9/11, bin Laden didn't do shiat.

Iranians stopped a hostage rescue, Carter didn't do shiat.
2012-10-06 01:08:42 PM  
1 vote:

hbk72777: Seal Team 6 killed Bin Laden. Obama didn't do shiat


This is what happens when you have a pussy like Bush and Romeny in charge:

WASHINGTON, July 7 - A secret military operation in early 2005 to capture senior members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan's tribal areas was aborted at the last minute after top Bush administration officials decided it was too risky and could jeopardize relations with Pakistan, according to intelligence and military officials.

The target was a meeting of Qaeda leaders that intelligence officials thought included Ayman al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden's top deputy and the man believed to run the terrorist group's operations.

But the mission was called off after Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, rejected an 11th-hour appeal by Porter J. Goss, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, officials said. Members of a Navy Seals unit in parachute gear had already boarded C-130 cargo planes in Afghanistan when the mission was canceled, said a former senior intelligence official involved in the planning.


Bush was such a pussy that he didn't even make the call that would have given us a chance to get al-Zawahri, he eft it to Rumsfeld. And that pussy refused to let the SEALs go into Pakistan to get not only al-Zawahri but a number of other high level leaders. Without that call, SEALs stay on the ground.

Obama made the call that he would put the SEALs into Pakistan to get Osama. Bush, Rumsfeld, McCain, Romney, none of them would have made that call. If you are just trolling, thanks, I never get tied of reminding people about that failed raid. If you actually believe that shiat, I hope I made your day a little worse, reminding you of the Pussy that used to be in charge, and the pussy, Romney, that will be in charge if we let it.
2012-10-06 12:59:19 PM  
1 vote:

beta_plus: Will the movie show us torturing people in Gitmo to find out where Osama is hiding and deciding to not tell a sovereign nation that never attacked us that we are about to invade them?

/because torture is OK when it makes Dems look good


Troll account; please pick a narrative and stick with it. Either the information was gotten by torture by the Bush administration and is good or it didn't come from torture.
2012-10-06 12:50:23 PM  
1 vote:

HotIgneous Intruder: Yeah.
Navy Seals with Army aviation and Naval logistical support killed Osama.
That has nothing to do with the election.


Almost like it was some sort of Joint Special Operations action, possibly headed by a man named Admiral McRaven, who might have told Wolf Blitzer something like:

MCRAVEN: I mean, and this is not a small point. The fact of the matter is it was the president of the United States that ordered the raid.?
2012-10-06 12:41:58 PM  
1 vote:
beta_plus

Even you've got to know, surely, that none of what you've just posted is true. So if nobody here's dumb enough to believe it, why bother posting it?
2012-10-06 12:35:35 PM  
1 vote:

HotIgneous Intruder: Yeah.
Navy Seals with Army aviation and Naval logistical support killed Osama.
That has nothing to do with the election.


And an okee dokee from the guy whose balls would have been served up by the right, if it had gone south.

And if it had, this would be a VERY different election. So yea nothing to do with the election.
2012-10-06 12:26:40 PM  
1 vote:
Time to get my legitimate Republican rape on.

This isn't propaganda, this actually happened. Osama bin Laden was killed on Obama's order. Those are indispuable facts that will exist until the end of time. No matter how many times Hannity or Bill O lie to you otherwise, it will never, ever change.

Lots of Republicans have been supporting the PBS cut. First, it's not entertainment, it's educational. In today's day and age of Here comes Honey boo boo, we need educational, non rating based television more than ever. Additionally, probably everyone in here grew up on seasame street, and should therefore appreciate the benefit it provides children. You don't get quite the same experience from Power Rangers, Yigioh, and Pokemon. And finally, the $450m budget, as mentioned is nothing to the national budget. The following video, from 2009 shows exactly what portion we're talking about cutting here. In the example he uses 100m from the previous election, so 450m is about 1 penny on the table stacked with pennies 5 high. If any candidate is going ot be serious about cutting the budget, they MUST go after Medicare, Social Security, and Defense. As you can see from the line in the video, everything to the left is entirely untouchable. Everything to the right of the other line is money we don't have, aka the deficit. The video illustrates the impossibility of balancing the budget off cuts alone, even if we could go after the major programs. The only real solution is revenue increases, aka taxes increasing, something Romney explicitly said he will not consider during Wednesday's debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt8hTayupE
2012-10-06 09:18:45 AM  
1 vote:

Tyrone Slothrop: dickfreckle: I still don't understand why some of you can't be pleased with the elimination of the very man who turned us into a nation of bed-wetters. I remember 2001-2003. Even the "liberal media" was beating the war drums. Now that the man is dead, it actually pains you to admit it was at the hand (more to the point - political liability) of a Democrat.

You cheap patriots. Fark you.

As far as I can tell, Republicans would be totally happy if America was destroyed as long as it made Democrats look bad. They see the country as just another sporting event.


Please also refer to: American economy, debt ceiling, and fiscal cliff.

/Hey, Congress only does it to maintain their amazing approval rating
2012-10-06 08:01:08 AM  
1 vote:
What really happens when Cons get terrorists in their sights? Nothing.

WASHINGTON, July 7 - A secret military operation in early 2005 to capture senior members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan's tribal areas was aborted at the last minute after top Bush administration officials decided it was too risky and could jeopardize relations with Pakistan, according to intelligence and military officials.

The target was a meeting of Qaeda leaders that intelligence officials thought included Ayman al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden's top deputy and the man believed to run the terrorist group's operations.

But the mission was called off after Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, rejected an 11th-hour appeal by Porter J. Goss, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, officials said. Members of a Navy Seals unit in parachute gear had already boarded C-130 cargo planes in Afghanistan when the mission was canceled, said a former senior intelligence official involved in the planning.


In reality, if Bush, McCain or Romney were in charge, there would have been no bin Laden raid because it was to "dangerous" and would upset our "allies" in Pakistan. Bush admitted it, McCain admitted it, and Romney did not think it was worth "moving heaven and hell to get just one guy."
2012-10-06 06:16:36 AM  
1 vote:

Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.


So? There's a lot of it about, and we get a wide-release movie that qualifies every few months even if you don't loosen your standards to just include movies with a ridiculously strong "moral".

There was that one a few months back that was literally a Marine recruiting video, Honor of something or other.

Some people will try to convert you to their cause by making it look more badass than, perhaps, it actually is. Some of these people will not agree with you politically. Man up and deal.

//The Commander in chief of the US military, who is literally like two links up the chain of command from the special Navy task forces, didn't have anything to do with the actions of the unit that's a step away from reporting to him directly. Yeah, you roll with that. You also going to say that Seal Team Six had nothing to do with it because it was the bullet that resulted in his death, not one of them directly... except the bullet didn't have anything to do with it, he was killed by momentum transfer resulting in a concussive blast... which had nothing to do with it because he was killed by rupturing tissue, which had nothing to do with it because what actually killed him was the cessation of brain function...
2012-10-06 01:14:18 AM  
1 vote:

tenpoundsofcheese: and yet the stopped the Hillary movie, go figure.

oh wait, supporting liberals is okay, being against liberals is not okay.


Oh shut up, the GOP got away with airing a documentary calling on local TV stations John Kerry a traitor. You'll get over it.

Link
2012-10-06 12:18:55 AM  
1 vote:
2012-10-06 12:00:43 AM  
1 vote:

Brick-House: Well, this ought to piss off the Libtards...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 764x554]

Thank You W


What did W do again to help catch Bin Laden? I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him either.
2012-10-05 11:58:58 PM  
1 vote:
Well, this ought to piss off the Libtards...

1.bp.blogspot.com

Thank You W
2012-10-05 10:54:23 PM  
1 vote:

Free_Chilly_Willy: This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


Oh, I guess I read the title of the film as "Seal Team Six" and not "How Obama got His Groove Back" which is apparently how you read it. My bad, dude. You're right, the film is totally ignoring the role of the military personnel who were involved.
2012-10-05 10:33:30 PM  
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The Dog Ate My Homework: So this is what conservatism has come to in the US: Whining about the release dates of movies and the fact that unemployment figures have improved.

Thanks for helping. What would we do without you?


Don't forget smirking when an American ambassador and several other people die.
2012-10-05 10:27:01 PM  
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So this is what conservatism has come to in the US: Whining about the release dates of movies and the fact that unemployment figures have improved.

Thanks for helping. What would we do without you?
2012-10-05 10:26:40 PM  
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LordJiro: Mrtraveler01: fickenchucker: /Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.

Only in the Republicans eyes is tackling 0.012% of the budget while ignoring keeping much larger, much more wasteful chunks off limits to cuts, "fiscally responsible".

FTFY.


FTFY
2012-10-05 10:17:24 PM  
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gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?


FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.

/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.
2012-10-05 10:15:10 PM  
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gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?


There's a new Ayn Rand movie coming in a couple of weeks. That's pretty much the same thing.
2012-10-05 10:07:06 PM  
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turbidum: galvanize his base


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2012-10-05 10:04:05 PM  
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Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?
2012-10-05 09:55:38 PM  
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Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.

...and you're point here is...?

seriously. even if this is 'propaganda', so what? it's entirely legal.

You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.


I wasn't aware the president funded this film. I thought Harvey Weinstein did.
2012-10-05 09:47:37 PM  
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Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.


...and you're point here is...?

seriously. even if this is 'propaganda', so what? it's entirely legal.
2012-10-05 09:47:37 PM  
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Aidan: fusillade762: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?

The question was "Who do you think deserves (*) more (*) credit for the killing of bin Laden; Obama or Romney?" The answers were only A) Obama B) Romney C) Unsure.

If you go "WTF, it was Seal Team Rainbow (or whatever)", then it was probably unsure. If you go "Well it wasn't farking Obama!", then you probably get recorded as Romney. It gets worse when you consider how the starred words are vague and misleading in the first place and could easily be over-emphasized.


If I weren't already drinking, I would start based on those cited figures. OK, genius pollsters, your next homework assignment is called the "follow-up question", as it "how in the flying fark could your racist, shiat-filled, good for nothing but compost brain think Romney had anything to do with it?
2012-10-05 09:46:34 PM  
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This is the definition of propaganda.
2012-10-05 09:40:50 PM  
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National? That socialism.
Geographic? That sounds like science.
So Socialist Science is pro-Obama? Well, duh.
2012-10-05 09:30:56 PM  
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There is another movie coming out that's about how Romney single-handedly kept France safe from the Viet Cong.
2012-10-05 09:28:43 PM  
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I'm going to enjoy the Captain American dialogue:

"Now that we've captured him, team leader, should we take him home to stand trial?"

"No, you'll learn these devil arabs have slippery tongues, son. Soon as he opens his mouth he'll start confusing real Americans in the heartland. Best dump out at sea as his heathen religion requires."
2012-10-05 09:25:45 PM  
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Debeo Summa Credo: Debeo Summa Credo: Mugato: Yeah, if Bin Laden was killed under Dubya's watch there would be seven movies out by now starring Clint Eastwood, the dad from Poltergeist and Angelina Jolie's father.

IOW, Both sides are bad, vote democrat.

By the way, you are right. Maybe exaggerating with "seven" , but bush would've had a movie too.


www.maggiesnotebook.com

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...and he didn't do dick. So yeah, I think seven movies is about right.
2012-10-05 09:16:53 PM  
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Chariset: fusillade762: Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?

The FARK?!

15% of Ohio survey takers are either really ignorant or world-class trolls.


I would say the number is 62%.
2012-10-05 08:57:04 PM  
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But the movie about Obama 2016 and a destroyed America wasn't trying to influence an election, right?
2012-10-05 08:42:03 PM  
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The big question is, how many undecided voters watch the National Geographic channel?
2012-10-05 08:32:05 PM  
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Yeah, if Bin Laden was killed under Dubya's watch there would be seven movies out by now starring Clint Eastwood, the dad from Poltergeist and Angelina Jolie's father.
2012-10-05 08:26:18 PM  
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I watched the October 3 presidential debate pretty carefully. I'm pretty sure Mr. Romney claimed that he was responsible for the decision to undertake the raid.

I mean, it's not as if Mr. Romney is a well-documented liar. And, it's not as if Mr. Obama failed to contradict a single claim by a "not" (snicker, snicker) well-documented liar that seemed facially absurd. So, I have to assume that bin Laden's death is due to the efforts of a self-described unemployed guy who's admitted on a secret recording that he hates half the country.
2012-10-05 08:24:18 PM  
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