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(AP)   "Seal Team Six: The Raid on Osama bin Laden" film will be conveniently released two days before the election to remind voters who brought the terrorist to justice   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 209
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2012-10-05 09:59:46 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: The big question is, how many undecided voters watch the National Geographic channel?


There are also all the apathetic Dems who might be feeling disheartened by that point. This is just the thing to galvanize his base.
 
2012-10-05 10:00:31 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.

...and you're point here is...?

seriously. even if this is 'propaganda', so what? it's entirely legal.

You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.


I don't think Obama funded this film. And it really doesn't matter what you or I think about it...because the law says that political parties (and corporations) can spend unlimited amounts of cash to 'spread propaganda' about their candidates. thems the rules my friend, and the conservative wing of the US Supreme court said it's legal.

you could write to Justice Scalia about it. i'm sure he'll get right on that for you.
 
2012-10-05 10:01:37 PM  

Mikey1969: BTW, he also doesn't make programming choices at National Geographic Channel. You know WHY they're airing it right before the election? So that people will WATCH it. It's a financial decision made by the network to take advantage of the most opportune time to air the show.


You are right. There is no connection between this president and Hollywood. Nope, none at all.
 
2012-10-05 10:02:27 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-05 10:02:37 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


I made you some mac and cheese. Then we'll watch The adventures of Milo and Otis. If you cry, you aren't a Republican.
 
2012-10-05 10:02:57 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.

...and you're point here is...?

seriously. even if this is 'propaganda', so what? it's entirely legal.

You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.


But it's okay for the other guy?
 
2012-10-05 10:03:42 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Mikey1969: BTW, he also doesn't make programming choices at National Geographic Channel. You know WHY they're airing it right before the election? So that people will WATCH it. It's a financial decision made by the network to take advantage of the most opportune time to air the show.

You are right. There is no connection between this president and Hollywood. Nope, none at all.


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2012-10-05 10:03:59 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


Besides, y'know, ordering the raid in the first place (as opposed to a drone strike, which would have, among other things, destroyed the treasure-trove of intel they grabbed), ordering they bring an extra helicopter (which ended up saving the mission), and just generally being COMMANDER-IN-FARKING-CHIEF.

If Jimmy Carter was responsible for the farked up hostage rescue, and if Osama himself was responsible for 9/11, Barack Obama was responsible for taking out Osama bin Laden. And before you spout the tired old "Any President would have done the same" horseshiat, keep in mind that his opponents explicitly said they would NOT DO WHAT HE DID.

Republicans are weak on defense..
 
2012-10-05 10:04:05 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?
 
2012-10-05 10:05:52 PM  
It makes me sad that this is used to sway "undecided" voters.

Democrats are learning from Republicans regarding 'what works' in winning elections.

/Obama still had the balls to say lets get this farker and fark Pakistan...vs Bush.
 
2012-10-05 10:07:06 PM  

turbidum: galvanize his base


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2012-10-05 10:08:15 PM  

Enemabag Jones: It makes me sad that this is used to sway "undecided" voters.


this isn't going to sway anyone. not that many people will watch and of those it will be very few who are a: undecideced and b: in a swing state
 
2012-10-05 10:09:03 PM  
sno man,
If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?

Obama is a democrat who happens to fail the 1/8 drop rule...anything positive he does is accidental.

Anything negative is his problem.
 
2012-10-05 10:09:18 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Enemabag Jones: It makes me sad that this is used to sway "undecided" voters.

this isn't going to sway anyone. not that many people will watch and of those it will be very few who are a: undecided and b: in a swing state


stfy. I need to go to bed. too many beers watching the Braves go down in flames
 
2012-10-05 10:09:28 PM  
Well this movie is more respectable that when Bush jr. raised his gay terror scale into the 'imminent attack, so vote for Dubya' position.
 
2012-10-05 10:13:00 PM  
Is this where I remind libs that while it was important OBL was properly-slaughtered, it was because of policies libs insisted upon that delayed it? "We can't go to war without a giant coalition!!11!!!" and ""We need to play nice with Pakistan!!11!!1!!".

Turns out Pakistan lied and covered enough to wait out Bush, the military, and the CIA until it was painfully obvious what was going on. Yay BO for getting OBL, I guess. But don't read too much into it. Or if you do, read that W was the moderate we said he was and should have pushed harder to do what was right much more quickly.

Or an even further point we should have learned from Viet Nam--When you release the dogs of war, let the military go apeshiat to get the job done without restrictions.
 
2012-10-05 10:13:04 PM  
Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?
 
2012-10-05 10:14:31 PM  
s9.postimage.org
 
2012-10-05 10:15:10 PM  

gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?


There's a new Ayn Rand movie coming in a couple of weeks. That's pretty much the same thing.
 
2012-10-05 10:16:08 PM  

Enemabag Jones: sno man,
If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?

Obama is a democrat who happens to fail the 1/8 drop rule...anything positive he does is accidental was really done by Republicans

Anything negative is his problem.


FTFY.
 
2012-10-05 10:17:10 PM  
It's gonna be in 3 parts too!
img5.imageshack.us
 
2012-10-05 10:17:24 PM  

gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?




FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.

/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.
 
2012-10-05 10:17:37 PM  
It's about GD Time!

When does the movie about 911 come out?
 
2012-10-05 10:20:35 PM  

fickenchucker: gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?



FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.

/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


You'd probably be good with all the library funding going away too, right?
 
2012-10-05 10:22:29 PM  

fickenchucker: gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?



FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.

/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


If we were serious about being fiscally responsible, the military budget and corporate subsidies would be first in line for cuts, and taxes would be back to Clinton levels, if not higher. Then, MAYBE, after we do that (as well as raise the minimum wage to create demand, (because supply-side economics is laughably idiotic), cut loopholes and tax breaks for corporations (ESPECIALLY ones that send jobs overseas), and just basically throw out every single Republican 'idea' they've shat out since Ronnie), we can look at PBS.
 
2012-10-05 10:23:02 PM  

fickenchucker: /Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


We've only got 99.988% of the budget left to tackle!
 
2012-10-05 10:23:57 PM  
fickenchucker
FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.
/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


So the Iraqi war budget is off the books and that counts against Obama?

/Tired of Republicans counting one emotional cent against the entire dollar to make emotional facts against reality to justify their reality to those that only watch Fox News for facts.
 
2012-10-05 10:24:12 PM  

fickenchucker: /Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


Only in the Republicans eyes is tackling 0.012% of the budget "fiscally responsible".
 
2012-10-05 10:25:17 PM  

Mrtraveler01: fickenchucker: /Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.

Only in the Republicans eyes is tackling 0.012% of the budget while ignoring much larger, much more wasteful chunks, "fiscally responsible".


FTFY.
 
2012-10-05 10:25:31 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.



Presidents make the big military decisions. Whether it's taking a chance on a military raid against a major target or pushing through the invasion and occupation of an entire nation.

Presidents make these calls, and they make them alone. Any attempt to distract from this fundamental and crucial fact is illogical. Did he lead the assault himself? No. Could the raid have taken place without his authorization? Not a chance.
 
2012-10-05 10:26:40 PM  

LordJiro: Mrtraveler01: fickenchucker: /Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.

Only in the Republicans eyes is tackling 0.012% of the budget while ignoring keeping much larger, much more wasteful chunks off limits to cuts, "fiscally responsible".

FTFY.


FTFY
 
2012-10-05 10:26:41 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Mikey1969: BTW, he also doesn't make programming choices at National Geographic Channel. You know WHY they're airing it right before the election? So that people will WATCH it. It's a financial decision made by the network to take advantage of the most opportune time to air the show.

You are right. There is no connection between this president and Hollywood. Nope, none at all.


It IS weird that this President has met celebrities, unlike any other politician EVER.
 
2012-10-05 10:27:01 PM  
So this is what conservatism has come to in the US: Whining about the release dates of movies and the fact that unemployment figures have improved.

Thanks for helping. What would we do without you?
 
2012-10-05 10:30:37 PM  

Non-evil Monkey: Chariset: fusillade762: Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?

The FARK?!

15% of Ohio survey takers are either really ignorant or world-class trolls.

I think it's less people honestly think Romney deserves more credit and more the fact that a disturbingly high number of Republicans cannot bring themselves to give Obama credit for anything positive.

While I'd have to see exactly how the question was worded to be sure, I shudder to think what sort of mental gymnastics are needed for someone to think an ex-governor who currently has no formal political authority whatsoever could possibly be more responsible for taking down Bin Laden then the sitting president of the united States.

Even if all Obama did was sit back and let other people do their jobs, he'd still be more responsible for Osama's death simply because he had a much greater ability to fark up the operation then Romney ever did.


Maybe they just assume that once Romney's in the White House he'll commandeer Obama's time machine and go back and pull the trigger himself?
 
2012-10-05 10:30:40 PM  

fickenchucker: gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?



FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.

/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


How about we keep PBS and cancel a fighter and a few tanks? Deal?
 
2012-10-05 10:31:12 PM  
It's funny that the GOP gets upset when the Dems use the same tactics against them.

My local ABC station is owned by Sinclair Broadcasting which is a big cheerleader for the GOP. In 2004, they forced all the stations they own including my local ABC to preempt primetime programming to air a documentary that basically called John Kerry a traitor.

Karma is a biatch huh Republicans?
 
2012-10-05 10:33:30 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: So this is what conservatism has come to in the US: Whining about the release dates of movies and the fact that unemployment figures have improved.

Thanks for helping. What would we do without you?


Don't forget smirking when an American ambassador and several other people die.
 
2012-10-05 10:34:36 PM  
Two days huh?

Just in time to miss out on 99% of the early/absentee voters.
 
2012-10-05 10:37:57 PM  
I always understood 'brought to justice' as implying capture and trial. Foreign policy debate should be interesting. I assume that Romney will just rest on the GOP's undeserved laurels for being tough and strong on Defense while parroting the trope that Democrats are soft, doveish, bleeding-hearts. OBL sure but will Obama emphasize himself as the 'drone-strike killah,' raining death from above on terrorists far and wide?
 
2012-10-05 10:40:42 PM  

StopLurkListen: Say hello to Citizens United, you whiny frogballs.


WInner.
 
2012-10-05 10:50:26 PM  
Well, it wasn't going to be Bush, he was too busy keeping bin Laden around as the bogeyman to scare more Americans into giving up their rights while giving him and his cronies more money.
 
2012-10-05 10:54:23 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


Oh, I guess I read the title of the film as "Seal Team Six" and not "How Obama got His Groove Back" which is apparently how you read it. My bad, dude. You're right, the film is totally ignoring the role of the military personnel who were involved.
 
2012-10-05 10:56:41 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.



So I invented a machine that allows me view The Mirror Universe, but unfortunately it only lets me look at fark.com (from my travels there I have determined that Drew Curtis has a goatee). Incidentally, this post was posted in Mirror Universe Fark.com (tagline: It's not Fark, it's news!):


Free_Billys_Willy:
This chancellor had everything to do with the raid on McLaden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention away from the fact that the raid failed and many good walruses from the actual team that participated died, or keeps trying to bury the story so the Merkins can't use this to help them in their election campaign is close to sickening.



Incidentally the President is called "Chancellor", it was the Arabs who invented the prefix "Mc" and not the Scots, the Navy Seals are called Walruses, and the Republicans are called Merkins in that universe (Oddly enough the Democrats are called Whigs). You need to know those details, otherwise that rambling wouldn't even come close to making sense.
 
2012-10-05 11:30:06 PM  

sno man: Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.

If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?


That's a totally different scenario, see, his side is good and our side is bad. No matter what happens. No matter what occurs, no matter what he does; the black man is bad. He's either a do-nothing, worthless suit or he's an evil mastermind that is manipulating EVERYTHING like jobs numbers and gas prices and every single thing congress does. You gotta remember, Republicans good, Democrats bad.
 
2012-10-05 11:44:20 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: sno man: Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.

If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?

That's a totally different scenario, see, his side is good and our side is bad. No matter what happens. No matter what occurs, no matter what he does; the black man is bad. He's either a do-nothing, worthless suit or he's an evil mastermind that is manipulating EVERYTHING like jobs numbers and gas prices and every single thing congress does. You gotta remember, Republicans good, Democrats bad.


I was mostly asking rhetorically, but hopeful a neuron or two might fire off in Willy's head for the first time.
 
2012-10-05 11:45:25 PM  
...this is of course the natural outcome of the Citizens United Not Timid decision. I hope both sides abuse the f*ck out of it to the point that people get fed up enough that we can pass some restrictions on corporate 'speech' that will pass constitutional muster with the current court.

Not holding my breath.
 
2012-10-05 11:51:42 PM  

sno man: Uchiha_Cycliste: sno man: Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.

If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?

That's a totally different scenario, see, his side is good and our side is bad. No matter what happens. No matter what occurs, no matter what he does; the black man is bad. He's either a do-nothing, worthless suit or he's an evil mastermind that is manipulating EVERYTHING like jobs numbers and gas prices and every single thing congress does. You gotta remember, Republicans good, Democrats bad.

I was mostly asking rhetorically, but hopeful a neuron or two might fire off in Willy's head for the first time.


LOL...
 
2012-10-05 11:57:01 PM  
Assassination of subdued civilians: It's OK if we really feel like he's a bad guy.
 
2012-10-05 11:58:58 PM  
Well, this ought to piss off the Libtards...

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Thank You W
 
2012-10-06 12:00:43 AM  

Brick-House: Well, this ought to piss off the Libtards...

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Thank You W


What did W do again to help catch Bin Laden? I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him either.
 
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