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(AP)   "Seal Team Six: The Raid on Osama bin Laden" film will be conveniently released two days before the election to remind voters who brought the terrorist to justice   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 209
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2012-10-05 08:15:07 PM  
And I'll pretend that it's not a calculated move and watch the hell out of it.
 
2012-10-05 08:24:18 PM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-10-05 08:26:13 PM  
Damn liberal Fox News owner.
 
2012-10-05 08:26:18 PM  
I watched the October 3 presidential debate pretty carefully. I'm pretty sure Mr. Romney claimed that he was responsible for the decision to undertake the raid.

I mean, it's not as if Mr. Romney is a well-documented liar. And, it's not as if Mr. Obama failed to contradict a single claim by a "not" (snicker, snicker) well-documented liar that seemed facially absurd. So, I have to assume that bin Laden's death is due to the efforts of a self-described unemployed guy who's admitted on a secret recording that he hates half the country.
 
2012-10-05 08:32:05 PM  
Yeah, if Bin Laden was killed under Dubya's watch there would be seven movies out by now starring Clint Eastwood, the dad from Poltergeist and Angelina Jolie's father.
 
2012-10-05 08:36:35 PM  

Mugato: Yeah, if Bin Laden was killed under Dubya's watch there would be seven movies out by now starring Clint Eastwood, the dad from Poltergeist and Angelina Jolie's father.


And they would be aired in primetime every night the week before the election and as a marathon the previous Monday.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-05 08:40:41 PM  
Good!
 
2012-10-05 08:42:03 PM  
The big question is, how many undecided voters watch the National Geographic channel?
 
2012-10-05 08:43:18 PM  
"We are opportunistic from a programming perspective"

That's refreshingly blunt.


eraser8: I watched the October 3 presidential debate pretty carefully. I'm pretty sure Mr. Romney claimed that he was responsible for the decision to undertake the raid.


Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?
 
2012-10-05 08:44:51 PM  

fusillade762: Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?


The FARK?!

15% of Ohio survey takers are either really ignorant or world-class trolls.
 
2012-10-05 08:57:04 PM  
But the movie about Obama 2016 and a destroyed America wasn't trying to influence an election, right?
 
2012-10-05 09:02:01 PM  

fusillade762: "We are opportunistic from a programming perspective"

That's refreshingly blunt.


eraser8: I watched the October 3 presidential debate pretty carefully. I'm pretty sure Mr. Romney claimed that he was responsible for the decision to undertake the raid.

Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?


www.thehoneyb.com
 
2012-10-05 09:16:53 PM  

Chariset: fusillade762: Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?

The FARK?!

15% of Ohio survey takers are either really ignorant or world-class trolls.


I would say the number is 62%.
 
2012-10-05 09:18:18 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: The big question is, how many undecided voters watch the National Geographic channel?


Somewhere around 0, +/-0.
 
2012-10-05 09:18:46 PM  

Mugato: Yeah, if Bin Laden was killed under Dubya's watch there would be seven movies out by now starring Clint Eastwood, the dad from Poltergeist and Angelina Jolie's father.


IOW, Both sides are bad, vote democrat.
 
2012-10-05 09:20:20 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Mugato: Yeah, if Bin Laden was killed under Dubya's watch there would be seven movies out by now starring Clint Eastwood, the dad from Poltergeist and Angelina Jolie's father.

IOW, Both sides are bad, vote democrat.


By the way, you are right. Maybe exaggerating with "seven" , but bush would've had a movie too.
 
2012-10-05 09:20:37 PM  
Say hello to Citizens United, you whiny frogballs.
 
2012-10-05 09:22:42 PM  
I ultimately don't have a problem with this. As long as it doesn't go political what's to be outraged over?
 
2012-10-05 09:24:00 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Debeo Summa Credo: Mugato: Yeah, if Bin Laden was killed under Dubya's watch there would be seven movies out by now starring Clint Eastwood, the dad from Poltergeist and Angelina Jolie's father.

IOW, Both sides are bad, vote democrat.

By the way, you are right. Maybe exaggerating with "seven" , but bush would've had a movie too.


So you're actually saying both sides are bad and vote Republican?
 
2012-10-05 09:24:41 PM  

Chariset: fusillade762: Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?

The FARK?!

15% of Ohio survey takers are either really ignorant or world-class trolls.


I think it's less people honestly think Romney deserves more credit and more the fact that a disturbingly high number of Republicans cannot bring themselves to give Obama credit for anything positive.

While I'd have to see exactly how the question was worded to be sure, I shudder to think what sort of mental gymnastics are needed for someone to think an ex-governor who currently has no formal political authority whatsoever could possibly be more responsible for taking down Bin Laden then the sitting president of the united States.

Even if all Obama did was sit back and let other people do their jobs, he'd still be more responsible for Osama's death simply because he had a much greater ability to fark up the operation then Romney ever did.
 
2012-10-05 09:25:45 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Debeo Summa Credo: Mugato: Yeah, if Bin Laden was killed under Dubya's watch there would be seven movies out by now starring Clint Eastwood, the dad from Poltergeist and Angelina Jolie's father.

IOW, Both sides are bad, vote democrat.

By the way, you are right. Maybe exaggerating with "seven" , but bush would've had a movie too.


www.maggiesnotebook.com

press.take88.com


...and he didn't do dick. So yeah, I think seven movies is about right.
 
2012-10-05 09:28:15 PM  
I wonder if the movie will show Obama drooling on his pillow as he slept on it while the Seals were waiting to go in.
 
2012-10-05 09:28:43 PM  
I'm going to enjoy the Captain American dialogue:

"Now that we've captured him, team leader, should we take him home to stand trial?"

"No, you'll learn these devil arabs have slippery tongues, son. Soon as he opens his mouth he'll start confusing real Americans in the heartland. Best dump out at sea as his heathen religion requires."
 
2012-10-05 09:30:56 PM  
There is another movie coming out that's about how Romney single-handedly kept France safe from the Viet Cong.
 
2012-10-05 09:32:16 PM  

Non-evil Monkey: I think it's less people honestly think Romney deserves more credit and more the fact that a disturbingly high number of Republicans cannot bring themselves to give Obama credit for anything positive.


That's what's so farked up. After 9/11, Bush had a 90% approval rating. If he got Bin Laden, his birthday would have been a national holiday. But instead he said, "fark Bin Laden, I don't give a shiat". So Obama decided Bin Laden was a priority after all and after a year of intelligence gathering he took a chance and made the call. And Republicans are all like, "fark all that". They won't give him an inch.
 
2012-10-05 09:32:50 PM  
OK with this, I am.

/Done in one.
 
2012-10-05 09:33:32 PM  
Okay, so Obama gave the order and took all of the geopolitical risk. So what else did he do?

Did he get a good shot of his best drive off the tee?
 
2012-10-05 09:35:47 PM  
community.us.playstation.com
 
2012-10-05 09:40:29 PM  

born_yesterday: Okay, so Obama gave the order and took all of the geopolitical risk. So what else did he do?

Did he get a good shot of his best drive off the tee?


I know that projection is standard operating procedure for republicans but it's not the best idea to go the "Presidential vacation" route.
 
2012-10-05 09:40:33 PM  

Whiskey Pete: There is another movie coming out that's about how Romney single-handedly kept France safe from the Viet Cong.


While GWBush kept the Alabama skies safe from the Viet Cong.
 
2012-10-05 09:40:50 PM  
National? That socialism.
Geographic? That sounds like science.
So Socialist Science is pro-Obama? Well, duh.
 
2012-10-05 09:42:47 PM  

GAT_00: But the movie about Obama 2016 and a destroyed America wasn't trying to influence an election, right?


I saw a commercial for Atlas Shrugged Part II yesterday and the actual tagline was "WILL IT AFFECT THE ELECTION?"
 
2012-10-05 09:43:34 PM  

fusillade762: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?


The question was "Who do you think deserves (*) more (*) credit for the killing of bin Laden; Obama or Romney?" The answers were only A) Obama B) Romney C) Unsure.

If you go "WTF, it was Seal Team Rainbow (or whatever)", then it was probably unsure. If you go "Well it wasn't farking Obama!", then you probably get recorded as Romney. It gets worse when you consider how the starred words are vague and misleading in the first place and could easily be over-emphasized.
 
2012-10-05 09:45:11 PM  
You can't educate willful ignorance.
 
2012-10-05 09:46:34 PM  
This is the definition of propaganda.
 
2012-10-05 09:47:37 PM  

Aidan: fusillade762: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?

The question was "Who do you think deserves (*) more (*) credit for the killing of bin Laden; Obama or Romney?" The answers were only A) Obama B) Romney C) Unsure.

If you go "WTF, it was Seal Team Rainbow (or whatever)", then it was probably unsure. If you go "Well it wasn't farking Obama!", then you probably get recorded as Romney. It gets worse when you consider how the starred words are vague and misleading in the first place and could easily be over-emphasized.


If I weren't already drinking, I would start based on those cited figures. OK, genius pollsters, your next homework assignment is called the "follow-up question", as it "how in the flying fark could your racist, shiat-filled, good for nothing but compost brain think Romney had anything to do with it?
 
2012-10-05 09:47:37 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.


...and you're point here is...?

seriously. even if this is 'propaganda', so what? it's entirely legal.
 
2012-10-05 09:47:55 PM  

you are a puppet: GAT_00: But the movie about Obama 2016 and a destroyed America wasn't trying to influence an election, right?

I saw a commercial for Atlas Shrugged Part II yesterday and the actual tagline was "WILL IT AFFECT THE ELECTION?"


I've seen it, too. It's astounding how inane and stilted Rands dialogue sounds coming out of a living human's mouth.
 
2012-10-05 09:48:39 PM  

fusillade762: Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?


Would they happen to be friends with these people?

The Undecided Voter
 
2012-10-05 09:50:01 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.


I'd lean more

you are a puppet: GAT_00: But the movie about Obama 2016 and a destroyed America wasn't trying to influence an election, right?

I saw a commercial for Atlas Shrugged Part II yesterday and the actual tagline was "WILL IT AFFECT THE ELECTION?"


It's like they aren't even trying anymore.
 
2012-10-05 09:51:06 PM  

jso2897: you are a puppet: GAT_00: But the movie about Obama 2016 and a destroyed America wasn't trying to influence an election, right?

I saw a commercial for Atlas Shrugged Part II yesterday and the actual tagline was "WILL IT AFFECT THE ELECTION?"

I've seen it, too. It's astounding how inane and stilted Rands dialogue sounds coming out of a living human's mouth.


We rarely get to see more stilted visions of the Republican hate for democracy, though, so I love seeing it.

"THE GOVERNMENT IS TAKING EVERYTHING AND TAXING US TO DEATH!"

OK, hyperbole aside, vote for candidates that you think best represent you interests with regard to taxes

"OMG, OBAMA SOCIALIST KENYAN TAXATION WARGARBLEEEE..."

OK, "thanks" for voting.
 
2012-10-05 09:51:09 PM  

Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.

...and you're point here is...?

seriously. even if this is 'propaganda', so what? it's entirely legal.


You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.
 
2012-10-05 09:53:36 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.


What do you think ANY and EVERY modern political campaign by both major parties in this country does? Use the media to influence elections. That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.
 
2012-10-05 09:54:55 PM  

GAT_00: But the movie about Obama 2016 and a destroyed America wasn't trying to influence an election, right?


Not only that, but it had more than 2 days to influence people. How many people out there watch anything within 2 days of it airing anymore, thanks to DVR? Hell, most people watch things a minimum of a week after it comes out, I bet...
 
2012-10-05 09:55:38 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.


No this is

www.allamericanblogger.com
 
2012-10-05 09:55:38 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.

...and you're point here is...?

seriously. even if this is 'propaganda', so what? it's entirely legal.

You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.


I wasn't aware the president funded this film. I thought Harvey Weinstein did.
 
2012-10-05 09:56:29 PM  

fusillade762: link: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.


How the fark does this happen? What the fark, America? He's not even an employee of our government. How the fark do 1/6 of us believe that he's more responsible for this than the farking COMMANDER IN CHIEF???? COMMANDER IN CHIEF..... AS IN THE TOP POSITION OF THE farkING UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES......

/fark I am do disgusted with this country I was born in
 
2012-10-05 09:57:36 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.


Where does it say that Obama was a part of this movie? He didn't direct it, he didn't write it, he didn't cast it, he didn't edit it, he didn't produce it, he's not in charge of special effects, he didn't run the craft services truck, HE ISN'T PART OF THE PRODUCTION.

BTW, he also doesn't make programming choices at National Geographic Channel. You know WHY they're airing it right before the election? So that people will WATCH it. It's a financial decision made by the network to take advantage of the most opportune time to air the show.
 
2012-10-05 09:57:49 PM  

Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.


This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.
 
2012-10-05 09:59:44 PM  

born_yesterday: Okay, so Obama gave the order and took all of the geopolitical risk. So what else did he do?

Did he get a good shot of his best drive off the tee?


Help plan the mission and added input that probably saved lives. Cite.
 
2012-10-05 09:59:46 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: The big question is, how many undecided voters watch the National Geographic channel?


There are also all the apathetic Dems who might be feeling disheartened by that point. This is just the thing to galvanize his base.
 
2012-10-05 10:00:31 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.

...and you're point here is...?

seriously. even if this is 'propaganda', so what? it's entirely legal.

You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.


I don't think Obama funded this film. And it really doesn't matter what you or I think about it...because the law says that political parties (and corporations) can spend unlimited amounts of cash to 'spread propaganda' about their candidates. thems the rules my friend, and the conservative wing of the US Supreme court said it's legal.

you could write to Justice Scalia about it. i'm sure he'll get right on that for you.
 
2012-10-05 10:01:37 PM  

Mikey1969: BTW, he also doesn't make programming choices at National Geographic Channel. You know WHY they're airing it right before the election? So that people will WATCH it. It's a financial decision made by the network to take advantage of the most opportune time to air the show.


You are right. There is no connection between this president and Hollywood. Nope, none at all.
 
2012-10-05 10:02:27 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-05 10:02:37 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


I made you some mac and cheese. Then we'll watch The adventures of Milo and Otis. If you cry, you aren't a Republican.
 
2012-10-05 10:02:57 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.

...and you're point here is...?

seriously. even if this is 'propaganda', so what? it's entirely legal.

You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.


But it's okay for the other guy?
 
2012-10-05 10:03:42 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Mikey1969: BTW, he also doesn't make programming choices at National Geographic Channel. You know WHY they're airing it right before the election? So that people will WATCH it. It's a financial decision made by the network to take advantage of the most opportune time to air the show.

You are right. There is no connection between this president and Hollywood. Nope, none at all.


upload.wikimedia.orgupload.wikimedia.orggraphics8.nytimes.com
 
2012-10-05 10:03:59 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


Besides, y'know, ordering the raid in the first place (as opposed to a drone strike, which would have, among other things, destroyed the treasure-trove of intel they grabbed), ordering they bring an extra helicopter (which ended up saving the mission), and just generally being COMMANDER-IN-FARKING-CHIEF.

If Jimmy Carter was responsible for the farked up hostage rescue, and if Osama himself was responsible for 9/11, Barack Obama was responsible for taking out Osama bin Laden. And before you spout the tired old "Any President would have done the same" horseshiat, keep in mind that his opponents explicitly said they would NOT DO WHAT HE DID.

Republicans are weak on defense..
 
2012-10-05 10:04:05 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?
 
2012-10-05 10:05:52 PM  
It makes me sad that this is used to sway "undecided" voters.

Democrats are learning from Republicans regarding 'what works' in winning elections.

/Obama still had the balls to say lets get this farker and fark Pakistan...vs Bush.
 
2012-10-05 10:07:06 PM  

turbidum: galvanize his base


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-05 10:08:15 PM  

Enemabag Jones: It makes me sad that this is used to sway "undecided" voters.


this isn't going to sway anyone. not that many people will watch and of those it will be very few who are a: undecideced and b: in a swing state
 
2012-10-05 10:09:03 PM  
sno man,
If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?

Obama is a democrat who happens to fail the 1/8 drop rule...anything positive he does is accidental.

Anything negative is his problem.
 
2012-10-05 10:09:18 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Enemabag Jones: It makes me sad that this is used to sway "undecided" voters.

this isn't going to sway anyone. not that many people will watch and of those it will be very few who are a: undecided and b: in a swing state


stfy. I need to go to bed. too many beers watching the Braves go down in flames
 
2012-10-05 10:09:28 PM  
Well this movie is more respectable that when Bush jr. raised his gay terror scale into the 'imminent attack, so vote for Dubya' position.
 
2012-10-05 10:13:00 PM  
Is this where I remind libs that while it was important OBL was properly-slaughtered, it was because of policies libs insisted upon that delayed it? "We can't go to war without a giant coalition!!11!!!" and ""We need to play nice with Pakistan!!11!!1!!".

Turns out Pakistan lied and covered enough to wait out Bush, the military, and the CIA until it was painfully obvious what was going on. Yay BO for getting OBL, I guess. But don't read too much into it. Or if you do, read that W was the moderate we said he was and should have pushed harder to do what was right much more quickly.

Or an even further point we should have learned from Viet Nam--When you release the dogs of war, let the military go apeshiat to get the job done without restrictions.
 
2012-10-05 10:13:04 PM  
Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?
 
2012-10-05 10:14:31 PM  
s9.postimage.org
 
2012-10-05 10:15:10 PM  

gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?


There's a new Ayn Rand movie coming in a couple of weeks. That's pretty much the same thing.
 
2012-10-05 10:16:08 PM  

Enemabag Jones: sno man,
If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?

Obama is a democrat who happens to fail the 1/8 drop rule...anything positive he does is accidental was really done by Republicans

Anything negative is his problem.


FTFY.
 
2012-10-05 10:17:10 PM  
It's gonna be in 3 parts too!
img5.imageshack.us
 
2012-10-05 10:17:24 PM  

gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?




FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.

/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.
 
2012-10-05 10:17:37 PM  
It's about GD Time!

When does the movie about 911 come out?
 
2012-10-05 10:20:35 PM  

fickenchucker: gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?



FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.

/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


You'd probably be good with all the library funding going away too, right?
 
2012-10-05 10:22:29 PM  

fickenchucker: gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?



FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.

/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


If we were serious about being fiscally responsible, the military budget and corporate subsidies would be first in line for cuts, and taxes would be back to Clinton levels, if not higher. Then, MAYBE, after we do that (as well as raise the minimum wage to create demand, (because supply-side economics is laughably idiotic), cut loopholes and tax breaks for corporations (ESPECIALLY ones that send jobs overseas), and just basically throw out every single Republican 'idea' they've shat out since Ronnie), we can look at PBS.
 
2012-10-05 10:23:02 PM  

fickenchucker: /Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


We've only got 99.988% of the budget left to tackle!
 
2012-10-05 10:23:57 PM  
fickenchucker
FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.
/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


So the Iraqi war budget is off the books and that counts against Obama?

/Tired of Republicans counting one emotional cent against the entire dollar to make emotional facts against reality to justify their reality to those that only watch Fox News for facts.
 
2012-10-05 10:24:12 PM  

fickenchucker: /Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


Only in the Republicans eyes is tackling 0.012% of the budget "fiscally responsible".
 
2012-10-05 10:25:17 PM  

Mrtraveler01: fickenchucker: /Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.

Only in the Republicans eyes is tackling 0.012% of the budget while ignoring much larger, much more wasteful chunks, "fiscally responsible".


FTFY.
 
2012-10-05 10:25:31 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.



Presidents make the big military decisions. Whether it's taking a chance on a military raid against a major target or pushing through the invasion and occupation of an entire nation.

Presidents make these calls, and they make them alone. Any attempt to distract from this fundamental and crucial fact is illogical. Did he lead the assault himself? No. Could the raid have taken place without his authorization? Not a chance.
 
2012-10-05 10:26:40 PM  

LordJiro: Mrtraveler01: fickenchucker: /Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.

Only in the Republicans eyes is tackling 0.012% of the budget while ignoring keeping much larger, much more wasteful chunks off limits to cuts, "fiscally responsible".

FTFY.


FTFY
 
2012-10-05 10:26:41 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Mikey1969: BTW, he also doesn't make programming choices at National Geographic Channel. You know WHY they're airing it right before the election? So that people will WATCH it. It's a financial decision made by the network to take advantage of the most opportune time to air the show.

You are right. There is no connection between this president and Hollywood. Nope, none at all.


It IS weird that this President has met celebrities, unlike any other politician EVER.
 
2012-10-05 10:27:01 PM  
So this is what conservatism has come to in the US: Whining about the release dates of movies and the fact that unemployment figures have improved.

Thanks for helping. What would we do without you?
 
2012-10-05 10:30:37 PM  

Non-evil Monkey: Chariset: fusillade762: Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?

The FARK?!

15% of Ohio survey takers are either really ignorant or world-class trolls.

I think it's less people honestly think Romney deserves more credit and more the fact that a disturbingly high number of Republicans cannot bring themselves to give Obama credit for anything positive.

While I'd have to see exactly how the question was worded to be sure, I shudder to think what sort of mental gymnastics are needed for someone to think an ex-governor who currently has no formal political authority whatsoever could possibly be more responsible for taking down Bin Laden then the sitting president of the united States.

Even if all Obama did was sit back and let other people do their jobs, he'd still be more responsible for Osama's death simply because he had a much greater ability to fark up the operation then Romney ever did.


Maybe they just assume that once Romney's in the White House he'll commandeer Obama's time machine and go back and pull the trigger himself?
 
2012-10-05 10:30:40 PM  

fickenchucker: gothelder: Can anybody make a movie in time for a coincidental release date that has a team of businessmen slaughtering sesame st characters wholesale?



FARK Sesame Street and PBS. In this day and age we don't need to support entertainment with tax dollars. The supports were created before the internet and cable TV. Technology moved forward, as should those who think we have a bottomless checkbook.

/Yes, I know it's a drop in the bucket, but those drops add up if we were serious about being fiscally responsible.


How about we keep PBS and cancel a fighter and a few tanks? Deal?
 
2012-10-05 10:31:12 PM  
It's funny that the GOP gets upset when the Dems use the same tactics against them.

My local ABC station is owned by Sinclair Broadcasting which is a big cheerleader for the GOP. In 2004, they forced all the stations they own including my local ABC to preempt primetime programming to air a documentary that basically called John Kerry a traitor.

Karma is a biatch huh Republicans?
 
2012-10-05 10:33:30 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: So this is what conservatism has come to in the US: Whining about the release dates of movies and the fact that unemployment figures have improved.

Thanks for helping. What would we do without you?


Don't forget smirking when an American ambassador and several other people die.
 
2012-10-05 10:34:36 PM  
Two days huh?

Just in time to miss out on 99% of the early/absentee voters.
 
2012-10-05 10:37:57 PM  
I always understood 'brought to justice' as implying capture and trial. Foreign policy debate should be interesting. I assume that Romney will just rest on the GOP's undeserved laurels for being tough and strong on Defense while parroting the trope that Democrats are soft, doveish, bleeding-hearts. OBL sure but will Obama emphasize himself as the 'drone-strike killah,' raining death from above on terrorists far and wide?
 
2012-10-05 10:40:42 PM  

StopLurkListen: Say hello to Citizens United, you whiny frogballs.


WInner.
 
2012-10-05 10:50:26 PM  
Well, it wasn't going to be Bush, he was too busy keeping bin Laden around as the bogeyman to scare more Americans into giving up their rights while giving him and his cronies more money.
 
2012-10-05 10:54:23 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


Oh, I guess I read the title of the film as "Seal Team Six" and not "How Obama got His Groove Back" which is apparently how you read it. My bad, dude. You're right, the film is totally ignoring the role of the military personnel who were involved.
 
2012-10-05 10:56:41 PM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.



So I invented a machine that allows me view The Mirror Universe, but unfortunately it only lets me look at fark.com (from my travels there I have determined that Drew Curtis has a goatee). Incidentally, this post was posted in Mirror Universe Fark.com (tagline: It's not Fark, it's news!):


Free_Billys_Willy:
This chancellor had everything to do with the raid on McLaden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention away from the fact that the raid failed and many good walruses from the actual team that participated died, or keeps trying to bury the story so the Merkins can't use this to help them in their election campaign is close to sickening.



Incidentally the President is called "Chancellor", it was the Arabs who invented the prefix "Mc" and not the Scots, the Navy Seals are called Walruses, and the Republicans are called Merkins in that universe (Oddly enough the Democrats are called Whigs). You need to know those details, otherwise that rambling wouldn't even come close to making sense.
 
2012-10-05 11:30:06 PM  

sno man: Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.

If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?


That's a totally different scenario, see, his side is good and our side is bad. No matter what happens. No matter what occurs, no matter what he does; the black man is bad. He's either a do-nothing, worthless suit or he's an evil mastermind that is manipulating EVERYTHING like jobs numbers and gas prices and every single thing congress does. You gotta remember, Republicans good, Democrats bad.
 
2012-10-05 11:44:20 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: sno man: Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.

If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?

That's a totally different scenario, see, his side is good and our side is bad. No matter what happens. No matter what occurs, no matter what he does; the black man is bad. He's either a do-nothing, worthless suit or he's an evil mastermind that is manipulating EVERYTHING like jobs numbers and gas prices and every single thing congress does. You gotta remember, Republicans good, Democrats bad.


I was mostly asking rhetorically, but hopeful a neuron or two might fire off in Willy's head for the first time.
 
2012-10-05 11:45:25 PM  
...this is of course the natural outcome of the Citizens United Not Timid decision. I hope both sides abuse the f*ck out of it to the point that people get fed up enough that we can pass some restrictions on corporate 'speech' that will pass constitutional muster with the current court.

Not holding my breath.
 
2012-10-05 11:51:42 PM  

sno man: Uchiha_Cycliste: sno man: Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.

If it had gone south, would he still have had nothing to do with it?

That's a totally different scenario, see, his side is good and our side is bad. No matter what happens. No matter what occurs, no matter what he does; the black man is bad. He's either a do-nothing, worthless suit or he's an evil mastermind that is manipulating EVERYTHING like jobs numbers and gas prices and every single thing congress does. You gotta remember, Republicans good, Democrats bad.

I was mostly asking rhetorically, but hopeful a neuron or two might fire off in Willy's head for the first time.


LOL...
 
2012-10-05 11:57:01 PM  
Assassination of subdued civilians: It's OK if we really feel like he's a bad guy.
 
2012-10-05 11:58:58 PM  
Well, this ought to piss off the Libtards...

1.bp.blogspot.com

Thank You W
 
2012-10-06 12:00:43 AM  

Brick-House: Well, this ought to piss off the Libtards...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 764x554]

Thank You W


What did W do again to help catch Bin Laden? I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him either.
 
2012-10-06 12:01:34 AM  
I think seal tacos are promising,
 
2012-10-06 12:01:37 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Brick-House: Well, this ought to piss off the Libtards...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 764x554]

Thank You W

What did W do again to help catch Bin Laden? I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him either.


And the first deluded libtard checks in.

Next!!!
 
2012-10-06 12:02:19 AM  

Brick-House: And the first deluded libtard checks in.


So you got nothing to prove the contrary then?

Next!
 
2012-10-06 12:03:30 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Brick-House: Well, this ought to piss off the Libtards...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 764x554]

Thank You W

What did W do again to help catch Bin Laden? I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him either.


What did W do to help? (period)
 
2012-10-06 12:04:04 AM  

Mrtraveler01: I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him


Citation???
 
2012-10-06 12:09:53 AM  

Brick-House: Mrtraveler01: I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him

Citation???


Donald Rumsfeld from starters

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through "normal interrogation approaches" and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a "myth."


McCain

Waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques were not a factor in tracking down Osama bin Laden, a leading Republican senator insisted Thursday.

Sen. John McCain, who spent 5½ years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, also rejected the argument that any form of torture is critical to U.S. success in the fight against terrorism.
Trump: 'Torture' led to catching bin Laden

In an impassioned speech on the Senate floor, the Arizona Republican said former Attorney General Michael Mukasey and others who supported those kind of measures were wrong to claim that waterboarding al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, provided information that led to bin Laden's compound in Pakistan.
 

And more!

A group of former US military interrogators are pushing back against the notion that Bush administration "enhanced interrogation techniques" - which many consider to be torture - led to the intelligence that helped US officials locate Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Some US military intelligence officials also lament that bin Laden was not taken alive - and privately wonder whether concerns about the political "headaches" involved in trying detainees may have led the Obama administration to favor killing rather than capturing the architect of 9/11.

The opportunity to glean valuable intelligence from the leader of a powerful terrorist organization was lost, says retired Army Col. Stuart Herrington, a military intelligence specialist who interrogated generals under the command of Saddam Hussein and evaluated US detention operations at Guantánamo.
 
2012-10-06 12:18:55 AM  
 
2012-10-06 12:26:29 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Brick-House: Mrtraveler01: I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him

Citation???

Donald Rumsfeld from starters

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through "normal interrogation approaches" and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a "myth."

McCain

Waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques were not a factor in tracking down Osama bin Laden, a leading Republican senator insisted Thursday.

Sen. John McCain, who spent 5½ years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, also rejected the argument that any form of torture is critical to U.S. success in the fight against terrorism.
Trump: 'Torture' led to catching bin Laden

In an impassioned speech on the Senate floor, the Arizona Republican said former Attorney General Michael Mukasey and others who supported those kind of measures were wrong to claim that waterboarding al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, provided information that led to bin Laden's compound in Pakistan.  

And more!

A group of former US military interrogators are pushing back against the notion that Bush administration "enhanced interrogation techniques" - which many consider to be torture - led to the intelligence that helped US officials locate Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Some US military intelligence officials also lament that bin Laden was not taken alive - and privately wonder whether concerns about the political "headaches" involved in trying detainees may have led the Obama administration to favor killing rather than capturing the architect of 9/11.

The opportunity to glean valuable intelligence from the leader of a powerful terrorist organization was lost, says retired Army Col. Stuart Herrington, a military intelligence specialist who interrogated generals under the command of Saddam Hussein and evaluated US detention opera ...


Now I have nothing against waterboarding this ass holes and I am aware there are a ton of articles out there that state waterboarding played no role. I wasn't there, so I'll just leave it at that.

However, the intel infrastructure that Bush constructed after 9/11 was what led us t OBL. Under Clinton there were several barriers where various intel agencies were not permitted to share data. The FBI and CIA had hard walls put up between them. Part of this was the reason the 9/11 attack was successful. Bush tore down all those walls and brought about a climate where these agencies were working together.

Now I have my issues with Bush, but he deserves some credit here.

And just a note on waterboarding. Here's a question for you libtards. Since taking office, our Peace Prize Winjing Prez has had a Kill List and had used Drone Attacks to off many of these idiots rather than try to capture some and try to get intel from them to get at others.

So if you were a Terrorist, what would you rather have happen to you, caught by some Special Forces Guys, or become a grease stain on the side of some dusty hill when a hell fire missile comes from out of the blue?
 
2012-10-06 12:33:44 AM  

Mrtraveler01: And this article is about Bush cutting funding to efforts to track down Bin Laden


FTFA...

$202,000 Homeland Security grant for 80 "downtown surveillance cameras" in Dillingham, Alaska, population 2,400.

So, how did these cameras in Alaska help find OBL? Was he there on a ski trip? The article is full of examples like that. So I ask, did you even READ the article? Or even better, can you even read?
 
2012-10-06 12:35:08 AM  

Brick-House: Mrtraveler01: Brick-House: Mrtraveler01: I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him

Citation???

Donald Rumsfeld from starters

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through "normal interrogation approaches" and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a "myth."

McCain

Waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques were not a factor in tracking down Osama bin Laden, a leading Republican senator insisted Thursday.

Sen. John McCain, who spent 5½ years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, also rejected the argument that any form of torture is critical to U.S. success in the fight against terrorism.
Trump: 'Torture' led to catching bin Laden

In an impassioned speech on the Senate floor, the Arizona Republican said former Attorney General Michael Mukasey and others who supported those kind of measures were wrong to claim that waterboarding al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, provided information that led to bin Laden's compound in Pakistan.  

And more!

A group of former US military interrogators are pushing back against the notion that Bush administration "enhanced interrogation techniques" - which many consider to be torture - led to the intelligence that helped US officials locate Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Some US military intelligence officials also lament that bin Laden was not taken alive - and privately wonder whether concerns about the political "headaches" involved in trying detainees may have led the Obama administration to favor killing rather than capturing the architect of 9/11.

The opportunity to glean valuable intelligence from the leader of a powerful terrorist organization was lost, says retired Army Col. Stuart Herrington, a military intelligence specialist who interrogated generals under the command of Saddam Hussein and evaluated US d ...


So if Bush gets credit for the tangential things he did to help capture Osama, even though he closed the office aimed to track him down, why are the tangential as well as direct things Obama did to make the raid possible not deserve any credit?
 
2012-10-06 12:43:24 AM  

Brick-House: Mrtraveler01: And this article is about Bush cutting funding to efforts to track down Bin Laden

FTFA...

$202,000 Homeland Security grant for 80 "downtown surveillance cameras" in Dillingham, Alaska, population 2,400.

So, how did these cameras in Alaska help find OBL? Was he there on a ski trip? The article is full of examples like that. So I ask, did you even READ the article? Or even better, can you even read?


FTLA: "Bush could do that and still slash overall funding by ending the unconscionable squandering of Homeland Security funds on projects that make the homeland no more secure."

Can you read?
 
2012-10-06 12:44:30 AM  

Krymson Tyde: How about we keep PBS and cancel a fighter and a few tanks? Deal?


Can we cut both?

Is there some reason a mid-sized market in the US needs 6 PBS channels? (I'm counting digital subchannels).

Is there some reason PBS needs to behave like the History Channel? (oooh, crop circles are made by alien intelligence trying to send us a message).

Is there some reason they need to repeatedly run concerts by a Pink Floyd cover band that just happens to be playing in town soon?
 
2012-10-06 12:48:20 AM  

Summoner101: Obama did to make the raid possible not deserve any credit?


I have never said Obama didn't deserve credit, it is the one thing he has done I actually agree with. So Good Job Obama!!! Happy?

Now it still time to vote this fool out.
 
2012-10-06 12:48:29 AM  

Happy Hours: Krymson Tyde: How about we keep PBS and cancel a fighter and a few tanks? Deal?

Can we cut both?

Is there some reason a mid-sized market in the US needs 6 PBS channels? (I'm counting digital subchannels).

Is there some reason PBS needs to behave like the History Channel? (oooh, crop circles are made by alien intelligence trying to send us a message).

Is there some reason they need to repeatedly run concerts by a Pink Floyd cover band that just happens to be playing in town soon?


I guess you could cut PBS, but don't act like it's going to do jackshiat in terms of paying off our debt, especially if you keep things like the Defense Budget off limits to cuts.
 
2012-10-06 12:54:17 AM  

Happy Hours: Krymson Tyde: How about we keep PBS and cancel a fighter and a few tanks? Deal?

Can we cut both?

Is there some reason a mid-sized market in the US needs 6 PBS channels? (I'm counting digital subchannels).

Is there some reason PBS needs to behave like the History Channel? (oooh, crop circles are made by alien intelligence trying to send us a message).

Is there some reason they need to repeatedly run concerts by a Pink Floyd cover band that just happens to be playing in town soon?


So an across the board cut of equal percentages in all programs would be cool with you?
How about raising taxes on people that Romney says are middle income ($200-250k) and above?
 
2012-10-06 01:00:26 AM  

Mrtraveler01: I guess you could cut PBS, but don't act like it's going to do jackshiat in terms of paying off our debt, especially if you keep things like the Defense Budget off limits to cuts.


Fighters and tanks aren't part of the defense budget?

I'd be cool with cutting both PBS and the defense budget as well as a lot of other things

Krymson Tyde: So an across the board cut of equal percentages in all programs would be cool with you?


That's a bit simplistic and presumes that the proportion of funding that everything receives today is ideal.

How about raising taxes on people that Romney says are middle income ($200-250k) and above?


Sounds good to me.
 
2012-10-06 01:05:11 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Happy Hours: Krymson Tyde: How about we keep PBS and cancel a fighter and a few tanks? Deal?

Can we cut both?

Is there some reason a mid-sized market in the US needs 6 PBS channels? (I'm counting digital subchannels).

Is there some reason PBS needs to behave like the History Channel? (oooh, crop circles are made by alien intelligence trying to send us a message).

Is there some reason they need to repeatedly run concerts by a Pink Floyd cover band that just happens to be playing in town soon?

I guess you could cut PBS, but don't act like it's going to do jackshiat in terms of paying off our debt, especially if you keep things like the Defense Budget off limits to cuts.


I have no idea what you're talking about. The whole point is to get rid of that friggen' PBS Newshour with their "facts" and their "investigation" and their "reporting". They have a way of making anyone detached from reality look detached from reality.
 
2012-10-06 01:09:18 AM  

Notabunny: Mrtraveler01: Happy Hours: Krymson Tyde: How about we keep PBS and cancel a fighter and a few tanks? Deal?

Can we cut both?

Is there some reason a mid-sized market in the US needs 6 PBS channels? (I'm counting digital subchannels).

Is there some reason PBS needs to behave like the History Channel? (oooh, crop circles are made by alien intelligence trying to send us a message).

Is there some reason they need to repeatedly run concerts by a Pink Floyd cover band that just happens to be playing in town soon?

I guess you could cut PBS, but don't act like it's going to do jackshiat in terms of paying off our debt, especially if you keep things like the Defense Budget off limits to cuts.

I have no idea what you're talking about. The whole point is to get rid of that friggen' PBS Newshour with their "facts" and their "investigation" and their "reporting". They have a way of making anyone detached from reality look detached from reality.


I also get the BBC World News through NPR and PBS and we all know how much Conservatives like the BBC.
 
2012-10-06 01:11:05 AM  
and yet the stopped the Hillary movie, go figure.

oh wait, supporting liberals is okay, being against liberals is not okay.
 
2012-10-06 01:13:56 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: and yet the stopped the Hillary movie, go figure.

oh wait, supporting liberals is okay, being against liberals is not okay.


You're on your way. The first step is admitting it. Lean on me, I'll help you along your journey.
 
2012-10-06 01:14:18 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: and yet the stopped the Hillary movie, go figure.

oh wait, supporting liberals is okay, being against liberals is not okay.


Oh shut up, the GOP got away with airing a documentary calling on local TV stations John Kerry a traitor. You'll get over it.

Link
 
2012-10-06 01:30:43 AM  

AdolfOliverPanties: The big question is, how many undecided voters watch the National Geographic channel?


t2.gstatic.com
 
2012-10-06 01:50:13 AM  

Mugato: Yeah, if Bin Laden was killed under Dubya's watch there would be seven movies out by now starring Clint Eastwood, the dad from Poltergeist and Angelina Jolie's father.


If it were Unforgifiven , even I might vote for Romney. Except he has no balls. No character. Say what you will about Eastwood (and I say plenty); the guy is off his nut these days, Nevertheless, Unforgiven is the best farking movie of recent times, and certainly the best Western ever made.

/still hate the GOP

www.scenictrace.com
 
2012-10-06 02:06:00 AM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


you have a very tenuous grasp on reality. you might want to find out just exactly what is happening here before commenting again.
 
2012-10-06 03:11:10 AM  

fusillade762: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?


are you farking kidding me?
and these people are allowed to vote?
operate vehicles???
 
2012-10-06 03:13:47 AM  
So the film will show the Bush administration for the entire duration of the film and Obama will show up in the last fifteen minutes to take all the credit?

No?
 
2012-10-06 03:20:04 AM  

randomjsa: So the film will show the Bush administration for the entire duration of the film and Obama will show up in the last fifteen minutes to take all the credit?

No?


This must be that Republican historical revision I've heard so much about.
 
2012-10-06 03:25:44 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: and yet the stopped the Hillary movie, go figure.

oh wait, supporting liberals is okay, being against liberals is not okay.


The Citizens United ruling is biatch, huh?
 
2012-10-06 03:43:22 AM  
Why would republicans get upset? According to the Fark right wingers it went like this:

High Ranking Military officer: Mr. President we found all of the Bush evidence he got by torture and we know his location and we also have Bush's plan of getting Osama Bin Laden, it was behind the couch in the oval office all this time. All we need to do is you give us the OK!

Obama: NO! Do NOT go after Osama Bin Laden, that's an order!

High Ranking Military officer: Sorry Mr. president I can't do that. Come with us, we are going to go after Osama Bin Laden!

Obama: As president I command you NOT TO GO AFTER OSAMA BIN LADEN!

High Ranking Military officer: Sorry Mr. President but we must. Follow us to the situation room. We also kidnapped Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.

*pushes Obama in room forces him to sit down*

*operation continues*

High Ranking Military officer: Oh my God, there is Osama Bin Laden he is completely nude, with his hands up and, giving himself up, they gave us no Resistance at all. Let's take him into custody.

Obama: No shot him in COLD BLOOD!!!

High Ranking Military officer: What Mr. President he let us in with no gunfire, you didn't want to do this in the first place and now that he has given himself up with no resistance at all you want our guys to kill him in cold blood.

Obama: YES! That's what I want!! Shoot him in the head and then shoot others there to pretend they were in a gun fight.

High Ranking Military officer: But sir, that would be murdering someone in cold blood and lying to the American people.

Obama: Yes it would AND THAT'S AN ORDER. MHUAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

*fade to black*

Yeah according to the right wing Farkers that is how it went down.
 
2012-10-06 03:48:58 AM  

randomjsa: So the film will show the Bush administration for the entire duration of the film and Obama will show up in the last fifteen minutes to take all the credit?

No?


What did I tell you about getting help?
 
2012-10-06 05:45:26 AM  

Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: Weaver95: Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.

...and you're point here is...?

seriously. even if this is 'propaganda', so what? it's entirely legal.

You see nothing wrong with a President using the media to influence a election? That is just....sad.

I don't think Obama funded this film. And it really doesn't matter what you or I think about it...because the law says that political parties (and corporations) can spend unlimited amounts of cash to 'spread propaganda' about their candidates. thems the rules my friend, and the conservative wing of the US Supreme court said it's legal.

you could write to Justice Scalia about it. i'm sure he'll get right on that for you.


EXACTLY.

Back before the "Citizens United" ruling and the bold-faced lying by Mitt Romney during the debate I would have had problem with it. Not any more. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Time to take the gloves off and fight back a little dirty too.
 
2012-10-06 05:48:37 AM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.


Oh you mean other than the fact that he allowed it to happen right? And that if he had said no it wouldn't have happened. That too, right?

I continue to be amazed that there really exist people as stupid as the likes of you. It's hilarious , sad and maddening all at the same time.
 
2012-10-06 06:09:31 AM  
Sealteam Six!
What's That?
Sealteam Six!
What's the address?
Sealteam Six!
Where is it?
In Miami Beach!
Who Lives there?
Sealteam Six!
Young Bachelors?
Sealteam Six!
 
2012-10-06 06:11:33 AM  

Noam Chimpsky: I wonder if the movie will show Obama drooling on his pillow as he slept on it while the Seals were waiting to go in.


i1125.photobucket.com
The "BOOM! Head shotter in chief" wants a word.
 
2012-10-06 06:12:30 AM  

eraser8: I watched the October 3 presidential debate pretty carefully. I'm pretty sure Mr. Romney claimed that he was responsible for the decision to undertake the raid.

I mean, it's not as if Mr. Romney is a well-documented liar. And, it's not as if Mr. Obama failed to contradict a single claim by a "not" (snicker, snicker) well-documented liar that seemed facially absurd. So, I have to assume that bin Laden's death is due to the efforts of a self-described unemployed guy who's admitted on a secret recording that he hates half the country.


Wow, you sure went a long way there to gargle Obama's private parts.
 
2012-10-06 06:16:36 AM  

Free_Chilly_Willy: This is the definition of propaganda.


So? There's a lot of it about, and we get a wide-release movie that qualifies every few months even if you don't loosen your standards to just include movies with a ridiculously strong "moral".

There was that one a few months back that was literally a Marine recruiting video, Honor of something or other.

Some people will try to convert you to their cause by making it look more badass than, perhaps, it actually is. Some of these people will not agree with you politically. Man up and deal.

//The Commander in chief of the US military, who is literally like two links up the chain of command from the special Navy task forces, didn't have anything to do with the actions of the unit that's a step away from reporting to him directly. Yeah, you roll with that. You also going to say that Seal Team Six had nothing to do with it because it was the bullet that resulted in his death, not one of them directly... except the bullet didn't have anything to do with it, he was killed by momentum transfer resulting in a concussive blast... which had nothing to do with it because he was killed by rupturing tissue, which had nothing to do with it because what actually killed him was the cessation of brain function...
 
2012-10-06 06:29:17 AM  
I still don't understand why some of you can't be pleased with the elimination of the very man who turned us into a nation of bed-wetters. I remember 2001-2003. Even the "liberal media" was beating the war drums. Now that the man is dead, it actually pains you to admit it was at the hand (more to the point - political liability) of a Democrat.

You cheap patriots. Fark you.
 
2012-10-06 06:34:21 AM  
Don't get much use outta this anymore...

i75.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-06 06:51:43 AM  

fickenchucker: Is this where I remind libs that while it was important OBL was properly-slaughtered, it was because of policies libs insisted upon that delayed it? "We can't go to war without a giant coalition!!11!!!" and ""We need to play nice with Pakistan!!11!!1!!".

Turns out Pakistan lied and covered enough to wait out Bush, the military, and the CIA until it was painfully obvious what was going on. Yay BO for getting OBL, I guess. But don't read too much into it. Or if you do, read that W was the moderate we said he was and should have pushed harder to do what was right much more quickly.

Or an even further point we should have learned from Viet Nam--When you release the dogs of war, let the military go apeshiat to get the job done without restrictions.


Especially when you invade the wrong country
 
2012-10-06 07:01:36 AM  

Mugato: Non-evil Monkey: I think it's less people honestly think Romney deserves more credit and more the fact that a disturbingly high number of Republicans cannot bring themselves to give Obama credit for anything positive.

That's what's so farked up. After 9/11, Bush had a 90% approval rating. If he got Bin Laden, his birthday would have been a national holiday. But instead he said, "fark Bin Laden, I don't give a shiat". So Obama decided Bin Laden was a priority after all and after a year of intelligence gathering he took a chance and made the call. And Republicans are all like, "fark all that". They won't give him an inch.


Heh.

It's nice to see partisan hacks revising history already.
 
2012-10-06 07:02:34 AM  

fickenchucker: Is this where I remind libs that while it was important OBL was properly-slaughtered, it was because of policies libs insisted upon that delayed it? "We can't go to war without a giant coalition!!11!!!" and ""We need to play nice with Pakistan!!11!!1!!".

Turns out Pakistan lied and covered enough to wait out Bush, the military, and the CIA until it was painfully obvious what was going on. Yay BO for getting OBL, I guess. But don't read too much into it. Or if you do, read that W was the moderate we said he was and should have pushed harder to do what was right much more quickly.

Or an even further point we should have learned from Viet Nam--When you release the dogs of war, let the military go apeshiat to get the job done without restrictions.


Tora Bora is in Afghanistan.

Oh right, facts don't matter, party over country.
 
2012-10-06 07:14:08 AM  

Brick-House: Mrtraveler01: Brick-House: Well, this ought to piss off the Libtards...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 764x554]

Thank You W

What did W do again to help catch Bin Laden? I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him either.

And the first deluded libtard checks in.

Next!!!


So, you got schooled on citations and you backtrack and say you give Obama credit for the raid, but you still say "vote this fool out".

You need to just go away. And stay off the internets, as your hero W would say.
 
2012-10-06 07:25:11 AM  

Non-evil Monkey: Chariset: fusillade762: Some people already believed that.

According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?

The FARK?!

15% of Ohio survey takers are either really ignorant or world-class trolls.

I think it's less people honestly think Romney deserves more credit and more the fact that a disturbingly high number of Republicans cannot bring themselves to give Obama credit for anything positive.

While I'd have to see exactly how the question was worded to be sure, I shudder to think what sort of mental gymnastics are needed for someone to think an ex-governor who currently has no formal political authority whatsoever could possibly be more responsible for taking down Bin Laden then the sitting president of the united States.

Even if all Obama did was sit back and let other people do their jobs, he'd still be more responsible for Osama's death simply because he had a much greater ability to fark up the operation then Romney ever did.


Normally I don't want to hear any of these idiots trying to back their derp, but I actually want to hear this. I want to hear them back their belief that Romney was responsible for OBL's death.

randomjsa: So the film will show the Bush administration for the entire duration of the film and Obama will show up in the last fifteen minutes to take all the credit?

No?


Yep. It will show the Bush saying "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." and then "I am truly not that concerned about him." and then pulling resources out of Afghanistan and invading Iraq.
 
2012-10-06 07:42:05 AM  
Let me get this straight...you can release an anti-Obama movie nationwide and that's okay...but, talk about the death of public enemy number one and suddenly...

...Politics!!!!!
 
2012-10-06 07:49:30 AM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7366669/79838245#c79838245" target="_blank">Free_Chilly_Willy</a>:</b> <i>Kome: That's not propaganda... that's campaigning.

This president had very little to do with the raid on Bin Laden. The fact that he even chooses to divert attention from the actual team that participated, or wants to use this to help in his futile election campaign is close to sickening.</i>

You can keep telling yourself that but it will never become true.
 
2012-10-06 08:01:08 AM  
What really happens when Cons get terrorists in their sights? Nothing.

WASHINGTON, July 7 - A secret military operation in early 2005 to capture senior members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan's tribal areas was aborted at the last minute after top Bush administration officials decided it was too risky and could jeopardize relations with Pakistan, according to intelligence and military officials.

The target was a meeting of Qaeda leaders that intelligence officials thought included Ayman al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden's top deputy and the man believed to run the terrorist group's operations.

But the mission was called off after Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, rejected an 11th-hour appeal by Porter J. Goss, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, officials said. Members of a Navy Seals unit in parachute gear had already boarded C-130 cargo planes in Afghanistan when the mission was canceled, said a former senior intelligence official involved in the planning.


In reality, if Bush, McCain or Romney were in charge, there would have been no bin Laden raid because it was to "dangerous" and would upset our "allies" in Pakistan. Bush admitted it, McCain admitted it, and Romney did not think it was worth "moving heaven and hell to get just one guy."
 
2012-10-06 09:01:28 AM  

dickfreckle: I still don't understand why some of you can't be pleased with the elimination of the very man who turned us into a nation of bed-wetters. I remember 2001-2003. Even the "liberal media" was beating the war drums. Now that the man is dead, it actually pains you to admit it was at the hand (more to the point - political liability) of a Democrat.

You cheap patriots. Fark you.


As far as I can tell, Republicans would be totally happy if America was destroyed as long as it made Democrats look bad. They see the country as just another sporting event.
 
2012-10-06 09:18:45 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: dickfreckle: I still don't understand why some of you can't be pleased with the elimination of the very man who turned us into a nation of bed-wetters. I remember 2001-2003. Even the "liberal media" was beating the war drums. Now that the man is dead, it actually pains you to admit it was at the hand (more to the point - political liability) of a Democrat.

You cheap patriots. Fark you.

As far as I can tell, Republicans would be totally happy if America was destroyed as long as it made Democrats look bad. They see the country as just another sporting event.


Please also refer to: American economy, debt ceiling, and fiscal cliff.

/Hey, Congress only does it to maintain their amazing approval rating
 
2012-10-06 09:39:06 AM  

shotglasss: eraser8: I watched the October 3 presidential debate pretty carefully. I'm pretty sure Mr. Romney claimed that he was responsible for the decision to undertake the raid.

I mean, it's not as if Mr. Romney is a well-documented liar. And, it's not as if Mr. Obama failed to contradict a single claim by a "not" (snicker, snicker) well-documented liar that seemed facially absurd. So, I have to assume that bin Laden's death is due to the efforts of a self-described unemployed guy who's admitted on a secret recording that he hates half the country.

Wow, you sure went a long way there to gargle Obama's private parts.


What's with your dick obsession?
 
2012-10-06 09:44:24 AM  

RyogaM: and Romney did not think it was worth "moving heaven and hell to get just one guy."


And yet he hired the same advisors as George W"hy not throw a dart at a map and invade that country because 9/11!" Bush.
 
2012-10-06 10:13:56 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: fusillade762: link: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

How the fark does this happen? What the fark, America? He's not even an employee of our government. How the fark do 1/6 of us believe that he's more responsible for this than the farking COMMANDER IN CHIEF???? COMMANDER IN CHIEF..... AS IN THE TOP POSITION OF THE farkING UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES......

/fark I am do disgusted with this country I was born in


Dude. Ohioan here. Let me just remind you that Romney has had skin in the game for some time now. We here knew a foreign type president (Nosama HUSSEIN) would be unwilling to take matters into his muzlimy hands, and we believe our Top men (generals and such) actually received orders from who we knew would be our eventual wage increasing leader. Why are you not getting this? A vote for BALACK HUSSEIN OBLACKIE is a vote for the burning of our collective saviours constitution, so help me Ted Nugent. Amen
 
2012-10-06 10:24:52 AM  
Obama did What George W refused to do... take down OBL.

Now Bush Jr COULD have done so, countless times but OBL and the Republican fear-mongering was his meal ticket to re-election, so he just sat back and did nothing at all... except create a police state that even Hitler would have been jealous of
 
2012-10-06 10:29:03 AM  

Ooba Tooba: Don't Troll Me Bro!: fusillade762: link: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

How the fark does this happen? What the fark, America? He's not even an employee of our government. How the fark do 1/6 of us believe that he's more responsible for this than the farking COMMANDER IN CHIEF???? COMMANDER IN CHIEF..... AS IN THE TOP POSITION OF THE farkING UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES......

/fark I am do disgusted with this country I was born in

Dude. Ohioan here. Let me just remind you that Romney has had skin in the game for some time now. We here knew a foreign type president (Nosama HUSSEIN) would be unwilling to take matters into his muzlimy hands, and we believe our Top men (generals and such) actually received orders from who we knew would be our eventual wage increasing leader. Why are you not getting this? A vote for BALACK HUSSEIN OBLACKIE is a vote for the burning of our collective saviours constitution, so help me Ted Nugent. Amen


I'm wondering how many years it is before even this post falls under Poe's Law.

/What? The poll was real?
//Oh, Mother of Christ
 
2012-10-06 10:41:43 AM  

born_yesterday: Ooba Tooba: Don't Troll Me Bro!: fusillade762: link: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

How the fark does this happen? What the fark, America? He's not even an employee of our government. How the fark do 1/6 of us believe that he's more responsible for this than the farking COMMANDER IN CHIEF???? COMMANDER IN CHIEF..... AS IN THE TOP POSITION OF THE farkING UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES......

/fark I am do disgusted with this country I was born in

Dude. Ohioan here. Let me just remind you that Romney has had skin in the game for some time now. We here knew a foreign type president (Nosama HUSSEIN) would be unwilling to take matters into his muzlimy hands, and we believe our Top men (generals and such) actually received orders from who we knew would be our eventual wage increasing leader. Why are you not getting this? A vote for BALACK HUSSEIN OBLACKIE is a vote for the burning of our collective saviours constitution, so help me Ted Nugent. Amen

I'm wondering how many years it is before even this post falls under Poe's Law.

/What? The poll was real?
//Oh, Mother of Christ


The poll was real. I read it weeks ago. I chose to look away, and go about my day, humming and smiling as if it wasn't true. It's findings inspired a sense of disconnect akin to finding out a loved one was a victim of Jeffery Dahmer, or maybe slicing off your own penis accidentally while chopping onions. "How could this have happened?" Yeah. It was like that.
 
2012-10-06 10:48:23 AM  

Obama4Life: Obama did What George W refused to do... take down OBL.

Now Bush Jr COULD have done so, countless times but OBL and the Republican fear-mongering was his meal ticket to re-election, so he just sat back and did nothing at all... except create a police state that even Hitler would have been jealous of


That's stretching it. The Gestapo under Himmler, and Heydrich was second to none in terrorizing foreign, and domestic citizens. As much as i despise the bush regime, those guys had a lock on star run fear.
 
2012-10-06 10:48:52 AM  

Aidan: fusillade762: According to a PPP poll of likely Ohio voters, 15 percent of Republicans in Ohio think Romney is "more responsible" for bin Laden's death than Obama, while 47 percent of Republicans are "not sure" whether Obama or Romney deserves more of the credit.

It must be kinda nice living in your own little bubble of reality. Wonder what the weather's like?

The question was "Who do you think deserves (*) more (*) credit for the killing of bin Laden; Obama or Romney?" The answers were only A) Obama B) Romney C) Unsure.

If you go "WTF, it was Seal Team Rainbow (or whatever)", then it was probably unsure. If you go "Well it wasn't farking Obama!", then you probably get recorded as Romney. It gets worse when you consider how the starred words are vague and misleading in the first place and could easily be over-emphasized.


As someone who worked as a pollster for a while... nope. Putting down an answer that the respondent didn't say was instant termination for falsifying data. The correct response to someone who said, "Well it wasn't farking Obama!" would be to say, "OK, but if you had to choose one of these options, would you say Obama, Romney, or you're not sure?"
 
2012-10-06 10:50:09 AM  
State!
 
2012-10-06 10:58:34 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Mugato: Yeah, if Bin Laden was killed under Dubya's watch there would be seven movies out by now starring Clint Eastwood, the dad from Poltergeist and Angelina Jolie's father.

IOW, Both sides are bad, vote democrat.


Compared to their Republican Counterparts, the Democrat Candidates are saints.
 
2012-10-06 11:12:49 AM  
Sadly, Kathryn Bigelow's Zero Dark Thirty doesn't come out until December.
 
2012-10-06 11:24:12 AM  
It is not Zero Dark Thirty so it does not matter.
 
2012-10-06 11:37:38 AM  
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
OBAMA GOT OSAMA!
 
2012-10-06 11:38:09 AM  

JosephFinn: Sadly, Kathryn Bigelow's Zero Dark Thirty doesn't come out until December.


No, that is a good thing. :)
 
2012-10-06 12:22:45 PM  
Yeah.
Navy Seals with Army aviation and Naval logistical support killed Osama.
That has nothing to do with the election.
 
2012-10-06 12:26:40 PM  
Time to get my legitimate Republican rape on.

This isn't propaganda, this actually happened. Osama bin Laden was killed on Obama's order. Those are indispuable facts that will exist until the end of time. No matter how many times Hannity or Bill O lie to you otherwise, it will never, ever change.

Lots of Republicans have been supporting the PBS cut. First, it's not entertainment, it's educational. In today's day and age of Here comes Honey boo boo, we need educational, non rating based television more than ever. Additionally, probably everyone in here grew up on seasame street, and should therefore appreciate the benefit it provides children. You don't get quite the same experience from Power Rangers, Yigioh, and Pokemon. And finally, the $450m budget, as mentioned is nothing to the national budget. The following video, from 2009 shows exactly what portion we're talking about cutting here. In the example he uses 100m from the previous election, so 450m is about 1 penny on the table stacked with pennies 5 high. If any candidate is going ot be serious about cutting the budget, they MUST go after Medicare, Social Security, and Defense. As you can see from the line in the video, everything to the left is entirely untouchable. Everything to the right of the other line is money we don't have, aka the deficit. The video illustrates the impossibility of balancing the budget off cuts alone, even if we could go after the major programs. The only real solution is revenue increases, aka taxes increasing, something Romney explicitly said he will not consider during Wednesday's debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt8hTayupE
 
2012-10-06 12:26:40 PM  
What Republicans believe:

Obama plans and is responsible for every detail of gun sting operations even ones using tactics started in the Bush administration.

BUT

Obama has no idea and no input for a military operation going inside another sovereign country to get Osama Bin Laden.

THIS IS WHAT REPUBLICANS BELIEVE!!!
 
2012-10-06 12:35:35 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Yeah.
Navy Seals with Army aviation and Naval logistical support killed Osama.
That has nothing to do with the election.


And an okee dokee from the guy whose balls would have been served up by the right, if it had gone south.

And if it had, this would be a VERY different election. So yea nothing to do with the election.
 
2012-10-06 12:36:18 PM  
Will the movie show us torturing people in Gitmo to find out where Osama is hiding and deciding to not tell a sovereign nation that never attacked us that we are about to invade them?

/because torture is OK when it makes Dems look good
 
2012-10-06 12:41:58 PM  
beta_plus

Even you've got to know, surely, that none of what you've just posted is true. So if nobody here's dumb enough to believe it, why bother posting it?
 
2012-10-06 12:44:19 PM  

justtray: Time to get my legitimate Republican rape on.

This isn't propaganda, this actually happened. Osama bin Laden was killed on Obama's order. Those are indispuable facts that will exist until the end of time. No matter how many times Hannity or Bill O lie to you otherwise, it will never, ever change.

Lots of Republicans have been supporting the PBS cut. First, it's not entertainment, it's educational. In today's day and age of Here comes Honey boo boo, we need educational, non rating based television more than ever. Additionally, probably everyone in here grew up on seasame street, and should therefore appreciate the benefit it provides children. You don't get quite the same experience from Power Rangers, Yigioh, and Pokemon. And finally, the $450m budget, as mentioned is nothing to the national budget. The following video, from 2009 shows exactly what portion we're talking about cutting here. In the example he uses 100m from the previous election, so 450m is about 1 penny on the table stacked with pennies 5 high. If any candidate is going ot be serious about cutting the budget, they MUST go after Medicare, Social Security, and Defense. As you can see from the line in the video, everything to the left is entirely untouchable. Everything to the right of the other line is money we don't have, aka the deficit. The video illustrates the impossibility of balancing the budget off cuts alone, even if we could go after the major programs. The only real solution is revenue increases, aka taxes increasing, something Romney explicitly said he will not consider during Wednesday's debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt8hTayupE


girlstalkinsmack.com

/If you watch even one second of PBS and don't pay for it, you're a thief. A common thief
 
2012-10-06 12:50:23 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Yeah.
Navy Seals with Army aviation and Naval logistical support killed Osama.
That has nothing to do with the election.


Almost like it was some sort of Joint Special Operations action, possibly headed by a man named Admiral McRaven, who might have told Wolf Blitzer something like:

MCRAVEN: I mean, and this is not a small point. The fact of the matter is it was the president of the United States that ordered the raid.?
 
2012-10-06 12:57:20 PM  

beta_plus: Will the movie show us torturing people in Gitmo to find out where Osama is hiding and deciding to not tell a sovereign nation that never attacked us that we are about to invade them?

/because torture is OK when it makes Dems look good


The torture lie was already debunked upthread

Mrtraveler01:
Donald Rumsfeld from starters

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Ladhttp://www.fark.com/comments/7366669/Seal-Team-Six-The-Raid-on-Osam a-bin-Laden-film-will-be-conveniently-released-two-days-before-electio n-to-remind-voters-who-brought-terrorist-to-justice&new=1#ben was obtained through "normal interrogation approaches" and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a "myth."

McCain

Waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques were not a factor in tracking down Osama bin Laden, a leading Republican senator insisted Thursday.

Sen. John McCain, who spent 5½ years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, also rejected the argument that any form of torture is critical to U.S. success in the fight against terrorism.
Trump: 'Torture' led to catching bin Laden

In an impassioned speech on the Senate floor, the Arizona Republican said former Attorney General Michael Mukasey and others who supported those kind of measures were wrong to claim that waterboarding al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, provided information that led to bin Laden's compound in Pakistan.  

And more!

A group of former US military interrogators are pushing back against the notion that Bush administration "enhanced interrogation techniques" - which many consider to be torture - led to the intelligence that helped US officials locate Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Some US military intelligence officials also lament that bin Laden was not taken alive - and privately wonder whether concerns about the political "headaches" involved in trying detainees may have led the Obama administration to favor killing rather than capturing the architect of 9/11.

The opportunity to glean valuable intelligence from the leader of a powerful terrorist organization was lost, says retired Army Col. Stuart Herrington, a military intelligence specialist who interrogated generals under the command of Saddam Hussein and evaluated US detention opera ...

 
2012-10-06 12:58:25 PM  
Seal Team 6 killed Bin Laden. Obama didn't do shiat
 
2012-10-06 12:59:19 PM  

beta_plus: Will the movie show us torturing people in Gitmo to find out where Osama is hiding and deciding to not tell a sovereign nation that never attacked us that we are about to invade them?

/because torture is OK when it makes Dems look good


Troll account; please pick a narrative and stick with it. Either the information was gotten by torture by the Bush administration and is good or it didn't come from torture.
 
2012-10-06 12:59:47 PM  

hbk72777: Seal Team 6 killed Bin Laden. Obama didn't do shiat


Without Obama's order, would ST6 have been in Pakistan to begin with?

No?

STFU.
 
2012-10-06 01:08:42 PM  

hbk72777: Seal Team 6 killed Bin Laden. Obama didn't do shiat


This is what happens when you have a pussy like Bush and Romeny in charge:

WASHINGTON, July 7 - A secret military operation in early 2005 to capture senior members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan's tribal areas was aborted at the last minute after top Bush administration officials decided it was too risky and could jeopardize relations with Pakistan, according to intelligence and military officials.

The target was a meeting of Qaeda leaders that intelligence officials thought included Ayman al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden's top deputy and the man believed to run the terrorist group's operations.

But the mission was called off after Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, rejected an 11th-hour appeal by Porter J. Goss, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, officials said. Members of a Navy Seals unit in parachute gear had already boarded C-130 cargo planes in Afghanistan when the mission was canceled, said a former senior intelligence official involved in the planning.


Bush was such a pussy that he didn't even make the call that would have given us a chance to get al-Zawahri, he eft it to Rumsfeld. And that pussy refused to let the SEALs go into Pakistan to get not only al-Zawahri but a number of other high level leaders. Without that call, SEALs stay on the ground.

Obama made the call that he would put the SEALs into Pakistan to get Osama. Bush, Rumsfeld, McCain, Romney, none of them would have made that call. If you are just trolling, thanks, I never get tied of reminding people about that failed raid. If you actually believe that shiat, I hope I made your day a little worse, reminding you of the Pussy that used to be in charge, and the pussy, Romney, that will be in charge if we let it.
 
2012-10-06 01:15:44 PM  

hbk72777: Seal Team 6 killed Bin Laden. Obama didn't do shiat


A bunch of Saudis did 9/11, bin Laden didn't do shiat.

Iranians stopped a hostage rescue, Carter didn't do shiat.
 
2012-10-06 01:25:34 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Enemabag Jones: It makes me sad that this is used to sway "undecided" voters.

this isn't going to sway anyone. not that many people will watch and of those it will be very few who are a: undecideced and b: in a swing state


This will.Link
 
2012-10-06 01:46:27 PM  

Mrtraveler01: What did W do again to help catch Bin Laden? I'm sure cutting funding to the operation didn't help and waterboarding sure didn't help catch him either.


Obama didn't just send seal team 6 in to shoot the place up like a call of duty mission.

The intel presence in the area along with AIT conducted during the Bush administration produced the name of the package boy who was later turned by a CIA officer into giving up the contents of the compound as well as the patterns of OBL and the security inside. The fact that we were able to even get into Afghanistan in the first place was made possible by a dozen or so salty CIA officers leftover from the 80s who were able to hook up with previously known anti-taliban contacts to provide cover to the Kabul airfield Before the Marines were sent in.

A successful intel apparatus requires years and often decades to establish in an area.
 
2012-10-06 01:54:05 PM  

o5iiawah: he intel presence in the area along with AIT conducted during the Bush administration produced the name of the package boy


No it didn't.
 
2012-10-06 01:57:25 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: o5iiawah: he intel presence in the area along with AIT conducted during the Bush administration produced the name of the package boy

No it didn't.

Enhanced interrogation techniques" were used to extract information that led to the mission's success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged.

Source

Do you get off on being intentionally wrong?
 
2012-10-06 02:01:32 PM  

o5iiawah: cameroncrazy1984: o5iiawah: he intel presence in the area along with AIT conducted during the Bush administration produced the name of the package boy

No it didn't.

Enhanced interrogation techniques" were used to extract information that led to the mission's success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged. Source

Do you get off on being intentionally wrong?


Do YOU get off on being intentionally wrong?


Donald Rumsfeld from starters

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through "normal interrogation approaches" and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a "myth."

McCain

Waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques were not a factor in tracking down Osama bin Laden, a leading Republican senator insisted Thursday.

Sen. John McCain, who spent 5½ years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, also rejected the argument that any form of torture is critical to U.S. success in the fight against terrorism.
Trump: 'Torture' led to catching bin Laden

In an impassioned speech on the Senate floor, the Arizona Republican said former Attorney General Michael Mukasey and others who supported those kind of measures were wrong to claim that waterboarding al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, provided information that led to bin Laden's compound in Pakistan.

And more!

A group of former US military interrogators are pushing back against the notion that Bush administration "enhanced interrogation techniques" - which many consider to be torture - led to the intelligence that helped US officials locate Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

Some US military intelligence officials also lament that bin Laden was not taken alive - and privately wonder whether concerns about the political "headaches" involved in trying detainees may have led the Obama administration to favor killing rather than capturing the architect of 9/11.

The opportunity to glean valuable intelligence from the leader of a powerful terrorist organization was lost, says retired Army Col. Stuart Herrington, a military intelligence specialist who interrogated generals under the command of Saddam Hussein and evaluated US detention operations at Guantánamo.
 
2012-10-06 02:10:35 PM  

Mrtraveler01: o5iiawah: cameroncrazy1984: o5iiawah: he intel presence in the area along with AIT conducted during the Bush administration produced the name of the package boy

No it didn't.

Enhanced interrogation techniques" were used to extract information that led to the mission's success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged. Source

Do you get off on being intentionally wrong?

Do YOU get off on being intentionally wrong?

A group of former US military interrogators are pushing back against the notion that Bush administration "enhanced interrogation techniques" - which many consider to be torture - led to the intelligence that helped US officials locate Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

because a group of former US military interrogators have more access to CIA operations than the director of the CIA

Sen. John McCain, who spent 5½ years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, also rejected the argument that any form of torture is critical to U.S. success in the fight against terrorism.

John McCain's feelings on torture doesn't displace the fact that torture was used to obtain intel critical to the OBL raid. Your whole argument is that the director of the CIA, giving a face to face interview, acknowledging that AIT was critical to the raid is lying and that a bunch of people who had little to do with the operation knew better. Got it.

 
2012-10-06 02:12:32 PM  

o5iiawah: John McCain's feelings on torture doesn't displace the fact that torture was used to obtain intel critical to the OBL raid. Your whole argument is that the director of the CIA, giving a face to face interview, acknowledging that AIT was critical to the raid is lying and that a bunch of people who had little to do with the operation knew better. Got it.


So when Donald Rumsfeld said torture wasn't used, he was lying? 

I guess when reality denies what you believe its true, you just make it up huh?
 
2012-10-06 02:12:33 PM  

o5iiawah: Mrtraveler01: o5iiawah: cameroncrazy1984: o5iiawah: he intel presence in the area along with AIT conducted during the Bush administration produced the name of the package boy

No it didn't.

Enhanced interrogation techniques" were used to extract information that led to the mission's success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged. Source

Do you get off on being intentionally wrong?

Do YOU get off on being intentionally wrong?

A group of former US military interrogators are pushing back against the notion that Bush administration "enhanced interrogation techniques" - which many consider to be torture - led to the intelligence that helped US officials locate Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

because a group of former US military interrogators have more access to CIA operations than the director of the CIA

Sen. John McCain, who spent 5½ years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, also rejected the argument that any form of torture is critical to U.S. success in the fight against terrorism.

John McCain's feelings on torture doesn't displace the fact that torture was used to obtain intel critical to the OBL raid. Your whole argument is that the director of the CIA, giving a face to face interview, acknowledging that AIT was critical to the raid is lying and that a bunch of people who had little to do with the operation knew better. Got it.


Uh, Donald Rumsfeld was the Defense Secretary when your alleged torture took place. And he says it didn't lead to any critical information.

Got it?
 
2012-10-06 02:18:39 PM  

Mrtraveler01: And this article is about Bush cutting funding to efforts to track down Bin Laden


TFA:

But to propose cutting Homeland Security

The DHS had nothing to do with OBL tracking operations in Afghanistan. The CIA still had their budget. The NSA was still dissecting information and the military was still on the ground. DHS is the coast guard, TSA and customs agents - probably the last people in the world who would come in contact with OBL.

This is like when a politican decides to cut a bloated consumer safety program, some reporter finds that there's $25,000 in the program dedicated to swingset safety and then reports that the politician single handedly wants to maim millions of children. it is intellectually dishonest which is right about on par with the arguments you usually try to make.
 
2012-10-06 02:20:28 PM  
Just in case some people had a hard time reading my Weeners time:


Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through "normal interrogation approaches" and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a "myth."
...

Asked if harsh interrogation techniques at Guantanamo Bay played a role in obtaining intelligence on bin Laden's whereabouts, Rumsfeld declares: "First of all, no one was waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay. That's a myth that's been perpetrated around the country by critics.

"The United States Department of Defense did not do waterboarding for interrogation purposes to anyone. It is true that some information that came from normal interrogation approaches at Guantanamo did lead to information that was beneficial in this instance. But it was not harsh treatment and it was not waterboarding."


Link
 
2012-10-06 02:21:33 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Uh, Donald Rumsfeld was the Defense Secretary when your alleged torture took place. And he says it didn't lead to any critical information.


So its Donald Rumsfeld's word vs Leon Pannetta - and you trust Rumsfeld. Let me laugh harder.

Mrtraveler01: I guess when reality denies what you believe its true, you just make it up huh?


So you believe Pannetta is lying?
 
2012-10-06 02:22:42 PM  
McCain knew that torture was not used in the gaining of any information that led to the bin Laden raid, because Panetta wrote a letter to McCain that stated that torture was not used.

Link

The account in Panetta's letter clearly contradicts this. Here are the operative three paragraphs from the letter, which represents a response from Panetta to McCain's earler request for information about torture and Bin Laden's death:

Nearly 10 years of intensive intelligence work led the CIA to conclude that Bin Ladin was likely hiding at the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. there was no one "essential and indispensible" key piece of information that led us to this conclusion. Rather, the intelligence picture was developed via painstaking collection and analysis. Multiple streams of intelligence - including from detainees, but also from multiple other sources - led CIA analysts to conclude that Bin Ladin was at this compound. Some of the detainees who provided useful information about the facilitator/courier's role had been subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques. Whether those techniques were the "only timely and effective way" to obtain such information is a matter of debate and cannot be established definitively. What is definitive is that that information was only a part of multiple streams of intelligence that led us to Bin Ladin.

Let me further point out that we first learned about the facilitator/courier's nom de guerre from a detainee not in CIA custody in 2002. It is also important to note that some detainees who were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques attempted to provide false or misleading information about the facilitator/courier. These attempts to falsify the facilitator/courier's role were alerting.

In the end, no detainee in CIA custody revealed the facilitator/courier's full true name or specific whereabouts. This information was discovered through other intelligence means.
 
2012-10-06 02:23:18 PM  
LOL. Cameroncrazy and Mtraveler01 citing Newsmax as fact and believing the words of Donald Rumsfeld. Hell must be chilly today.
 
2012-10-06 02:26:25 PM  

o5iiawah: So its Donald Rumsfeld's word vs Leon Pannetta - and you trust Rumsfeld. Let me laugh harder.


Actually, Panetta agrees with Rumsfeld, according to the WaPo link posted earlier:

Nearly 10 years of intensive intelligence work led the CIA to conclude that Bin Ladin was likely hiding at the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. there was no one "essential and indispensible" key piece of information that led us to this conclusion. Rather, the intelligence picture was developed via painstaking collection and analysis. Multiple streams of intelligence - including from detainees, but also from multiple other sources - led CIA analysts to conclude that Bin Ladin was at this compound. Some of the detainees who provided useful information about the facilitator/courier's role had been subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques. Whether those techniques were the "only timely and effective way" to obtain such information is a matter of debate and cannot be established definitively. What is definitive is that that information was only a part of multiple streams of intelligence that led us to Bin Ladin.

Let me further point out that we first learned about the facilitator/courier's nom de guerre from a detainee not in CIA custody in 2002. It is also important to note that some detainees who were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques attempted to provide false or misleading information about the facilitator/courier. These attempts to falsify the facilitator/courier's role were alerting.

In the end, no detainee in CIA custody revealed the facilitator/courier's full true name or specific whereabouts. This information was discovered through other intelligence means.


Care to continue to be wrong or are you done now?
 
2012-10-06 02:28:16 PM  

o5iiawah: cameroncrazy1984: Uh, Donald Rumsfeld was the Defense Secretary when your alleged torture took place. And he says it didn't lead to any critical information.

So its Donald Rumsfeld's word vs Leon Pannetta - and you trust Rumsfeld. Let me laugh harder.

Mrtraveler01: I guess when reality denies what you believe its true, you just make it up huh?

So you believe Pannetta is lying?


Or, you know, you didn't quite understand what Panetta actually said. And a piece of advice - if your entire argument is basically an assumption of one guy's infallibility (based on what you believe he was saying, anyway), you should try at least spelling his name right.
 
2012-10-06 02:34:38 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: o5iiawah: So its Donald Rumsfeld's word vs Leon Pannetta - and you trust Rumsfeld. Let me laugh harder.

Actually, Panetta agrees with Rumsfeld, according to the WaPo link posted earlier:

Nearly 10 years of intensive intelligence work led the CIA to conclude that Bin Ladin was likely hiding at the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. there was no one "essential and indispensible" key piece of information that led us to this conclusion. Rather, the intelligence picture was developed via painstaking collection and analysis. Multiple streams of intelligence - including from detainees, but also from multiple other sources - led CIA analysts to conclude that Bin Ladin was at this compound. Some of the detainees who provided useful information about the facilitator/courier's role had been subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques. Whether those techniques were the "only timely and effective way" to obtain such information is a matter of debate and cannot be established definitively. What is definitive is that that information was only a part of multiple streams of intelligence that led us to Bin Ladin.

Let me further point out that we first learned about the facilitator/courier's nom de guerre from a detainee not in CIA custody in 2002. It is also important to note that some detainees who were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques attempted to provide false or misleading information about the facilitator/courier. These attempts to falsify the facilitator/courier's role were alerting.

In the end, no detainee in CIA custody revealed the facilitator/courier's full true name or specific whereabouts. This information was discovered through other intelligence means.


Care to continue to be wrong or are you done now?


Where did he go?
 
2012-10-06 02:35:56 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Where did he go?


He's being wrong in the Big Bird thread.
 
2012-10-06 03:05:55 PM  

HeartBurnKid: As someone who worked as a pollster for a while... nope. Putting down an answer that the respondent didn't say was instant termination for falsifying data. The correct response to someone who said, "Well it wasn't farking Obama!" would be to say, "OK, but if you had to choose one of these options, would you say Obama, Romney, or you're not sure?"


I'm very glad to hear that. You understand why I find this poll suspicious though, yeah?
 
2012-10-06 03:16:10 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: I wonder if the movie will show Obama drooling on his pillow as he slept on it while the Seals were waiting to go in.


You know that isn't what happened. What compels you to lie so baldly?
 
2012-10-06 03:32:01 PM  

hbk72777: Seal Team 6 killed Bin Laden. Obama didn't do shiat


By that logic, Bin Laden didn't do anything wrong and Seal Team 6 killed an innocent man.
 
2012-10-06 03:33:39 PM  

Aidan: HeartBurnKid: As someone who worked as a pollster for a while... nope. Putting down an answer that the respondent didn't say was instant termination for falsifying data. The correct response to someone who said, "Well it wasn't farking Obama!" would be to say, "OK, but if you had to choose one of these options, would you say Obama, Romney, or you're not sure?"

I'm very glad to hear that. You understand why I find this poll suspicious though, yeah?


I definitely understand. I'd like to think that nobody could be that stupid and/or partisan, myself.
 
2012-10-06 05:55:10 PM  
Too bad that Seal Team members have already released the fact that they hate Obama's guts.
 
2012-10-06 06:47:15 PM  

barneyfifesbullet: Too bad that Seal Team members have already released the fact that they hate Obama's guts.


Just, you know, not active ones who actually participated.
 
2012-10-06 06:48:21 PM  

barneyfifesbullet: I got nothing.


Yes, they'd much rather have Bush and Rumsfeld, so that Rumsfeld could prevent them from going into Pakistan and getting Osama.

WASHINGTON, July 7 - A secret military operation in early 2005 to capture senior members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan's tribal areas was aborted at the last minute after top Bush administration officials decided it was too risky and could jeopardize relations with Pakistan, according to intelligence and military officials.

The target was a meeting of Qaeda leaders that intelligence officials thought included Ayman al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden's top deputy and the man believed to run the terrorist group's operations.

But the mission was called off after Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, rejected an 11th-hour appeal by Porter J. Goss, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, officials said. Members of a Navy Seals unit in parachute gear had already boarded C-130 cargo planes in Afghanistan when the mission was canceled, said a former senior intelligence official involved in the planning.


Keep voting for the party of pussies.
 
2012-10-07 01:12:17 AM  

Biological Ali: beta_plus

Even you've got to know, surely, that none of what you've just posted is true. So if nobody here's dumb enough to believe it, why bother posting it?


Well, we did fly into Pakistani airspace without prior notification, much less approval. Because the intelligence suggested that elements of the Pakistani government were complicit in concealing bin Laden. Turns out they were right.
 
2012-10-07 12:34:25 PM  

Mrbogey: I ultimately don't have a problem with this. As long as it doesn't go political what's to be outraged over?


Even if it does go political, who cares? I mean, private corporations are free to spend as much money as they want to influence elections. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander as Rmoney says.

Ain't it sweet when Citizen's United comes back to bite the republicans in the ass?
 
2012-10-07 02:10:14 PM  

Zalan: Ain't it sweet when Citizen's United comes back to bite the republicans in the ass?


Unlike Democrats, apparently Republicans are okay with free speech even when it hurts them. Considering Democrats are really keen on quieting Citizen's United because they didn't like an anti-Hillary movie.
 
2012-10-07 02:47:34 PM  

Mrbogey: Unlike Democrats, apparently Republicans are okay with free speech even when it hurts them


lol wut?
 
2012-10-08 08:28:05 AM  

Halli: Mrbogey: Unlike Democrats, apparently Republicans are okay with free speech even when it hurts them

lol wut?


I'm not the one crying about how awful it is that a collection of people are being allowed to speak.
 
2012-10-08 03:12:23 PM  

Mrbogey: Halli: Mrbogey: Unlike Democrats, apparently Republicans are okay with free speech even when it hurts them

lol wut?

I'm not the one crying about how awful it is that a collection of people are being allowed to speak.


You mean buy elections. Not speak.
 
2012-10-08 04:13:55 PM  

Halli: Mrbogey: Halli: Mrbogey: Unlike Democrats, apparently Republicans are okay with free speech even when it hurts them

lol wut?

I'm not the one crying about how awful it is that a collection of people are being allowed to speak.

You mean buy elections. Not speak.


CU isn't about buying elections
 
2012-10-08 04:35:29 PM  

Mrbogey: Halli: Mrbogey: Halli: Mrbogey: Unlike Democrats, apparently Republicans are okay with free speech even when it hurts them

lol wut?

I'm not the one crying about how awful it is that a collection of people are being allowed to speak.

You mean buy elections. Not speak.

CU isn't about buying elections


Haha oh my.
 
2012-10-08 10:51:35 PM  

Halli: Haha oh my.


You're delusional. You've got to be to think that releasing a propaganda piece is "buying" an election.

You just simply do not believe in freedom of speech. But I'm sure you think you do.
 
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