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(Huffington Post)   Don't you hate it when a police car hits your son, killing him instantly, and six months later you receive a bill from the city for the dent in the hood of the car that killed him?   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 240
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2012-10-05 05:05:27 PM
wow, that's just farking insane.
 
2012-10-05 05:09:22 PM
1. Man was running away after committing a felony. Someone gets injured or killed in the escape or committing the felony it is always the responsibility of the party who was breaking the law
2. Who the fark steals cobblestones?
 
2012-10-05 05:10:11 PM

cman: 1. Man was running away after committing a felony. Someone gets injured or killed in the escape or committing the felony it is always the responsibility of the party who was breaking the law, as well as any damage to property is also the responsibility of them

2. Who the fark steals cobblestones?


Fixt
 
2012-10-05 05:19:30 PM

cman: 2. Who the fark steals cobblestones?


Well unless he had a diamond pickaxe, it probably would've taken a couple hours to get the necessary materials for his scale model recreation of Hogwarts.

/What are we talking about?
 
2012-10-05 05:24:27 PM

scottydoesntknow: cman: 2. Who the fark steals cobblestones?

Well unless he had a diamond pickaxe, it probably would've taken a couple hours to get the necessary materials for his scale model recreation of Hogwarts.

/What are we talking about?


The guy in TFA. Thats what he was stealing
 
2012-10-05 05:26:16 PM

scottydoesntknow: cman: 2. Who the fark steals cobblestones?

Well unless he had a diamond pickaxe, it probably would've taken a couple hours to get the necessary materials for his scale model recreation of Hogwarts.

/What are we talking about?


perhaps he was creating a minecraft structure in real life.
 
2012-10-05 05:26:22 PM

cman: 1. Man was running away after committing a felony. Someone gets injured or killed in the escape or committing the felony it is always the responsibility of the party who was breaking the law
2. Who the fark steals cobblestones?


Allegedly.
 
2012-10-05 05:27:02 PM
Why is a 45 year old woman responsible for the bills of her 27 year old son?
 
2012-10-05 05:27:53 PM

DamnYankees: Why is a 45 year old woman responsible for the bills of her 27 year old son?


clearly you're living in a pre-9/11 mentality.
 
2012-10-05 05:30:15 PM

DamnYankees: Why is a 45 year old woman responsible for the bills of her 27 year old son?


I think it has to deal with his estate. Since he most likely died without a will, things get a bit difficult on who exercises what and how. He is responsible for the debt, but since he has passed away, his estate is responsible for the debt.
 
2012-10-05 05:42:58 PM

cman: DamnYankees: Why is a 45 year old woman responsible for the bills of her 27 year old son?

I think it has to deal with his estate. Since he most likely died without a will, things get a bit difficult on who exercises what and how. He is responsible for the debt, but since he has passed away, his estate is responsible for the debt.


Considering that he was not convicted of a crime, the damage was assessed six months after he was dead and I doubt he had any estate to speak of, the police will be lucky to come out -$710.
 
2012-10-05 06:04:06 PM

LockeOak: cman: DamnYankees: Why is a 45 year old woman responsible for the bills of her 27 year old son?

I think it has to deal with his estate. Since he most likely died without a will, things get a bit difficult on who exercises what and how. He is responsible for the debt, but since he has passed away, his estate is responsible for the debt.

Considering that he was not convicted of a crime, the damage was assessed six months after he was dead and I doubt he had any estate to speak of, the police will be lucky to come out -$710.


Yeah. These things can get a bit confusing. Not Star Trek paradox style confusing, but close
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-05 06:05:08 PM
I was about to feel sympathetic until I read about the Sharpton rally.
 
2012-10-05 06:06:11 PM
A witness described the incident, claiming, "They hit him. He flew up and he came down. They backed the car up, and they told him to get up. People were yelling out their windows screaming at the cops, 'We saw what you did.' "

That sounds just like New York's Finest to me.
 
2012-10-05 06:08:36 PM

cman: 1. Man was running away after committing a felony. Someone gets injured or killed in the escape or committing the felony it is always the responsibility of the party who was breaking the law
2. Who the fark steals cobblestones?


Allegedly. And if it reaches the level of a felony, it must have been one hell of a lot of cobblestones. Or they were made out of gold.
 
2012-10-05 06:34:40 PM
I was not under the impression that parents are responsible for debts incurred by adult culdren. The "son" was 27 when he was killed. The city can get that money from his estate (regardless of whether there is one), otherwise parents are not financially culpable for their adult child's death.
 
2012-10-05 07:17:23 PM

cman: DamnYankees: Why is a 45 year old woman responsible for the bills of her 27 year old son?

I think it has to deal with his estate. Since he most likely died without a will, things get a bit difficult on who exercises what and how. He is responsible for the debt, but since he has passed away, his estate is responsible for the debt.



What was in the estate?

Besides cobblestones, I mean.
 
2012-10-05 07:30:39 PM

cman: cman: 1. Man was running away after committing a felony. Someone gets injured or killed in the escape or committing the felony it is always the responsibility of the party who was breaking the law, as well as any damage to property is also the responsibility of them



That's not always going to be true. The police don't get to throw hand grenades at people fleeing from them after allegedly committing property crimes -- and then blame the suspect for all the buildings and cars damaged in the blast areas. The cops don't get a "hot pursuit" license to joyfully destroy whatever they like or injure the public in the process. There will always be a proportionality limit.
 
2012-10-05 07:41:48 PM

ZAZ: I was about to feel sympathetic until I read about the Sharpton rally.


I felt exactly the same way.
 
2012-10-05 08:08:19 PM
Really? People think someone stealing some cobblestones deserves to be killed? Y'all got some problems.
 
2012-10-05 08:10:59 PM
MOAR TAX CUTS!!
 
2012-10-05 08:17:41 PM
FTFA: Robinson's mother says the city is ordering the family to pay $710 to pay for the damages on the very car that killed her 27-year-old son.

Why the fark is someone ELSE responsible for this guy's expenses? I mean, even if you think the decedent rightfully bears the costs for the damage to the vehicle, why is the NYPD asking the decedent's mother to pay for it?

Does the NYPD not understand that the decedent and his mother are two different people?
 
2012-10-05 08:39:23 PM

coco ebert: Really? People think someone stealing some cobblestones deserves to be killed? Y'all got some problems.


Wait, wut? Untangle your panties, Sally, no one has said anything like that.
 
2012-10-05 08:46:49 PM

timujin: coco ebert: Really? People think someone stealing some cobblestones deserves to be killed? Y'all got some problems.

Wait, wut? Untangle your panties, Sally, no one has said anything like that.

cman: 1. Man was running away after committing a felony. Someone gets injured or killed in the escape or committing the felony it is always the responsibility of the party who was breaking the law, as well as any damage to property is also the responsibility of them

 
2012-10-05 08:46:52 PM
According to police, the car was stopped when Robinson ran into it.

Sounds legit.
 
2012-10-05 08:51:05 PM

fusillade762: According to police, the car was stopped when Robinson ran into it.

Sounds legit.


In the movies the IAB always gets involved. You'd think the NYPD IAB would be running at full capacity, yet I never hear of them investigating sh*t.
 
2012-10-05 08:55:27 PM

cman: 1. Man was running away after committing a felony. Someone gets injured or killed in the escape or committing the felony it is always the responsibility of the party who was breaking the law
2. Who the fark steals cobblestones?


...allegedly caught stealing cobblestones

He wasn't tried nor convicted, and even if he had been, the death penalty wouldn't apply.
 
2012-10-05 08:57:04 PM

Bathia_Mapes: cman: 1. Man was running away after committing a felony. Someone gets injured or killed in the escape or committing the felony it is always the responsibility of the party who was breaking the law
2. Who the fark steals cobblestones?

...allegedly caught stealing cobblestones

He wasn't tried nor convicted, and even if he had been, the death penalty wouldn't apply.


You are correct the death penalty wouldnt apply. If the officers had malice as their intent, they will be the ones on the hook. However, as it seems to be a freak accident, he gets all the blame
 
2012-10-05 09:05:09 PM

cman: Bathia_Mapes: cman: 1. Man was running away after committing a felony. Someone gets injured or killed in the escape or committing the felony it is always the responsibility of the party who was breaking the law
2. Who the fark steals cobblestones?

...allegedly caught stealing cobblestones

He wasn't tried nor convicted, and even if he had been, the death penalty wouldn't apply.

You are correct the death penalty wouldnt apply. If the officers had malice as their intent, they will be the ones on the hook. However, as it seems to be a freak accident, he gets all the blame


Again, he was allegedly caught stealing cobblestones.
 
2012-10-05 09:05:51 PM
lemme guess - the dead kid is black and/or a minority.

*reads article*

yup. figures.
 
2012-10-05 09:08:46 PM

coco ebert: Really? People think someone stealing some cobblestones deserves to be killed? Y'all got some problems.


f*ck man, you catch someone stealing bread and you can rape 'em to death, then chop the body up and sell the organs to recover your losses. USA! USA! USA!
 
2012-10-05 09:34:38 PM
He was obviously stoned.
 
2012-10-05 09:44:56 PM

fusillade762: According to police, the car was stopped when Robinson ran into it.

Sounds legit.


So according to the cops the guy somehow ran into a stationary car hard enough to put himself in a coma and then die.

That seems unlikely to say the least.
 
2012-10-05 10:02:13 PM
I'm calling bullshiat. No one steals cobblestones.
 
2012-10-05 10:42:42 PM

fusillade762: According to police, the car was stopped when Robinson ran into it.

Sounds legit.


The officer had his gun drawn, and the perp fell on to his bullets also has worked.
 
2012-10-05 10:46:23 PM
I had a friend who was driving and some drunk woman walked into the side of his car. Fortunately, it was dirty and you could see where she made first contact around the door.
 
2012-10-05 10:47:15 PM
Cobblestones are a hell of a drug...
 
2012-10-05 10:47:45 PM

Introitus: I'm calling bullshiat. No one steals cobblestones.


O RLY?
 
2012-10-05 10:48:04 PM
Subby has strange concept of "instantly."
 
2012-10-05 10:48:32 PM

Ambivalence: I was not under the impression that parents are responsible for debts incurred by adult culdren. The "son" was 27 when he was killed. The city can get that money from his estate (regardless of whether there is one), otherwise parents are not financially culpable for their adult child's death.


Parents aren't culpable regardless. If the man's estate consists of two joints and a pair of Nikes, they can file against his estate all they want, they'll just end up pounding sand.
 
2012-10-05 10:49:23 PM
love the comments

"Technically, those cars belong to us. Our taxes pay not only the salaries of the police, but we also buy the cars they drive. If anything, they should be forced to use cheap used vehicles to hit cars with, not $20,000+ vehicles. And now, they are going out and buying a whole new fleet. Mustangs, Chargers, Challengers, Darts, Suburbans and other full size SUV's. Oh yeah, don't forget who gets to pay for the $100's of dollars in gas a day either. WE DO! Protect and Serve huh? Sounds more like they are protecting and serving themselves. ON OUR TAX DOLLARS. Then to recklessly hit other cars to make them stop and pin them so they can not get away. Don't forget, when they hit someone that person gets the charge of vehicular assault. Will there be any point when we stop letting them take any liberty they want simply because we "need" them. Yet another time to add to the list that the police have failed the people they are supposed to be helping. Making the mother pay, what a joke! "

20k car is expensive? shiat, let's make them drive Datsuns. Then, when they don't make it to your crackhouse in time to stop your boyfriend from slapping the shiat out of you, you can go on with even more outrage. I know, you'll get Reverend AL

Link
 
2012-10-05 10:49:26 PM
The fact that Al Sharpton is involved makes me side with the cops immediately since he is always wrong.
 
2012-10-05 10:49:49 PM
True story: I got ran over when I was a kid, and as soon as I was released from the hospital the local PD tried to arrest me for causing property damage using my head to the driver's hood and windshield. Luckily the driver knew she was responsible, and generously told the police she wasn't pressing charges.

/getting a kick, etc.
 
2012-10-05 10:49:55 PM
Maybe he was going to peddle those cobblestones.

The man allegedly had some serous stones.

Good luck collecting.
 
2012-10-05 10:50:28 PM
dont care for nyc cops at all but he was trying to evade them. if he had stopped and complied and was legit,he would likely still be alive today. he made a choice to run,and that caused his death. but billing his estate is kinda silly,gonna cost more to collect then they will get. a waste of tax dollars!
 
2012-10-05 10:51:42 PM

steamingpile: The fact that Al Sharpton is involved makes me side with the cops immediately since he is always wrong.


Nah, times like this are when Sharpton is actually relevant. It's not often, but it does happen.
 
2012-10-05 10:52:04 PM
How the hell you get killed on your day off? What you stealin cobblestones for? You tryin to build a road?
 
2012-10-05 10:53:27 PM
Is there some cobblestone black market that I am completely unaware of? I never thought I would read a sentence that contained the phrase "stealing cobblestones".
 
2012-10-05 10:54:47 PM
In Detroit, a long time ago, the fine citizens would sometimes hurl heavy objects off of an overpass, down onto motorists on the area freeways.

So there's one reason to pry up cobblestones from the street.

There's also the general vandalism, destroying things for no good reason. Civic pride is kind of gone, not just in urban areas, but just about everywhere. It's like the opposite of civic pride is praised now, and what people feel they should do.
 
2012-10-05 10:55:03 PM
Heroes, the lot of them!

/Medals all around.
//Except you, you dented my cruiser.
 
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